Seether VS Nirvana

[woodyloveslinkin]

it's that or i dont give a fuck cos you know what my original point is.

[Peterdea]

calm down a tad people, jeez, it's getting far too heated here...

[Jeezy]

Cobain's suicide isn't the legend, it's their style of music and guess what? Time's transcending abilities have not affected Nirvana one bit...

 

that's not true....if he wouldn't have killed himself they would probably not be this kind of legends that they are now

I do agree though that In Utero is an awesome album.

 

You have no proof of the second part. I'm still innocent.

Well someone told me his name was Chris I don't indulge myself with Seether's music like I do with other artists on my much larger playlists.

 

how big is your playlist?...10 artists all doing this same kind of emo/punk/rock mix?

and you're not innocent....no proof of the 2nd part...that's so lame

 

Ah, the beautiful fact about music is that it is subjective. Just because there may be or may not be a strong majority with the same opinion it doesnt validate said point! Im sure there a significant amount of people who believe that homosexuality is wrong, or even on a more mudane level Linkin Park, is bad. However, because of this significant amount we do not deem any two of the stated examples are being infalibily (sic) bad.

that's true...but maybe it's not, because other people have another opinion about it...if we talk on this level no one can be right

 

it's that or i dont give a fuck cos you know what my original point is.

 

yeah you got no point at all...because all your posts don't state any facts.

[Peterdea]

yeah you got no point at all...because all your posts don't state any facts.

one could also say that your statement that "Nirvana is overrated" is not a fact.

[Jeezy]

one could also say that your statement that "Nirvana is overrated" is not a fact.

 

yeah but that's 1 out of 10 posts I make.

compared to others that do that all the time

[Peterdea]

yeah but that's 1 out of 10 posts I make.

compared to others that do that all the time

true, but i don't like the way woody was kinda bullied in this thread

[Jeezy]

true, but i don't like the way woody was kinda bullied in this thread

 

no one bullied her...

[Peterdea]

no one bullied her...

your joking right? have you not read the above posts fully? it was bullying, obviously she was uncomfortable the way things were being explained to her, and to keep that up just to piss her off is a form of bullying.

[Mikes_Shadow]

Fucking stupid poll.

They're hardly like each other.

 

Nirvana>>>>Seether.

[Lyson]

true, but i don't like the way woody was kinda bullied in this thread

 

Its not that anyone tried to bully her, its that she started a thread and made alot of mistakes in explaining her opinion even though she said it like no one else could be right. If you talk about something, at least know more about what your talking about and except that other people will definately have theirn opinions.

[Stenners]

You can't possibly compare the 2 bands! Sure they sound the same but that is mainly because one is a complete and utter rip off of the other. Seethers cliche lyrics are so forced and obviously 'inspired' from Kurt that the is little meaning to them & the music just isnt cutting edge anymore its.... dull, it may not be as bad as other post gruge bands but it's still pretty damn boring.

 

People that are saying Nirvana are overrated are to a degree correct but people who say they only have a legacy because of the suicide is utter utter balls & you need to look up some history. First of all Nirvana DO deserve the praise they got, not so much for 'Nevermind', the album everyone is CLEARLY basing their judgement off of but because of 'In Utero' which is their best album. 'In Utero' was a messey, noisey & painfully sincere album (some say Kurts suicide note) and thats what albums of this type are all about, not a whole album who concepts the breaking up of Amy Lee.

 

Now we have the social impact each band had, Nirvana put this type of music into the mainstream, before them all we had in the mainstream in terms of rock was all glam rock, which is rubbish. Nirvana suprised everyone by being as succcesful as they were, Nevermind made them an international phanomonen & with it they also broke threw many other artists such as 'Smashing Pumpkins' and 'Soundgarden' both legendry and excelent bands... who otherwise may never of got the chance.... not to mention they also increased the popularity of their influences ten-fold such as 'Pixies' and 'Sonic Youth'.

 

Now lets look at Seether, have they done any of the above??? No, they havent had any sort of social impact on music... the only thing they have offered is a tabloid story over him and amy lee, fantastic. Seethers music is disposable & an immitation, people who dont agree should listen to 'In Utero' and decide.

 

PS. I know I said I quit, but ever since I saw Stillm8j's sig, which I consider a personal attack, I shall remain seated for a little longer.

[woodyloveslinkin]

A couple of points to address here:

 

#1 - Peterdea

Peterdea, just stop trying to stand up for me. I appreciate it but really, you're sounding like a suck up right now, and in my moods right now, I know you're a lovely person, but what I am trying to avoid is another flame war on LPF. I personally don't think I was being bullied. I thought I was having a discussion about Seether VS Nirvana.

#2 - Jeezy

My playlist of Seether is the Karma and Effect album, plus that one song with Amy Lee compared to Nirvana whom I've got bits and pieces of Nevermind, got full In Utero, got bits and pieces of New York unplugged. The reason why I say this about Nirvana, is because, I was saying the exact some discussion with my brother in law tonight. Is that you can have bands that can change what people think, but to create a seperate genre of rock and to appeal to millions of people/teenagers, is a great leap.

#3 - Stenners

Stop saying "you can't possibly compare the bands" (and this applies to anyone else who wants to say it, it's just stupid because I just did and there's nothing that can stop me, it's like a battle of the bands almost). And yeah, they had a great social impact on the teenagers of that generation.

[Stenners]

It woulda made more sense to comare them to Soundgarden

[woodyloveslinkin]

It originally came off a thread off vampirefreaks.com where on the boards we (the pro-Nirvana side) got three people banned from the boards and pissed Jet (the owner) off bad then got our posts restarted and the thread deleted. It was really interesting the amount of bullshit they came up with. Apparently Seether's sold more albums then Nirvana has. I'm just glad that no one's said that so far. And plus, my sister even said to me that Sean (know I now his real name lol) sounded like Kurt on their song "Remedy". I got my sister confused big time that day, cos she had never listened to Seether in her life but has been listening to Nirvana half her life.

[FireHawk]

Soundgarden vs. Nirvana is very valid because Soundgarden is truly the King Of Grunge.

 

Anyway, I would pick Nirvana it was kinda poppy but I liked it especially "Nevermind" a classic, but I agree Nirvana is overrated. I do like the singer of Seethers voice and like a few songs from them, cause sometimes they just capture how I feel. Seether is a lot better instrumentally though. I still say Nirvana is better.

[Kanavazk]

Nirvana FTW.

 

If we had Soundgarden vs Nirvana the choice would be much harder for me... (I'd probably pick Soundgarden because I don't really like really obscure guitar but whatever...)

[FireHawk]

Chris Cornell is one of greatest vocalists ever forgot to mention that lol

[Peterdea]

A couple of points to address here:

 

#1 - Peterdea

Peterdea, just stop trying to stand up for me. I appreciate it but really, you're sounding like a suck up right now, and in my moods right now, I know you're a lovely person, but what I am trying to avoid is another flame war on LPF. I personally don't think I was being bullied. I thought I was having a discussion about Seether VS Nirvana.

to be honest i was sick of the way they were putting things. i get treated like that all the time at school and it pisses me off. it wasnt just standing up for you, it was standing up for evryone who knows what it's like to go through that shit all day every day.

 

and Cornell is a great vocalist, easily one of the best ever

[Lyson]

heh...i dont like the way that Chris Cornel looks but soundgarden is pretty good.

About seether though, they were still way better and it was their very best ever when they were Saron Gas, that album release was awesome and even though most songs were carried onto disclaimer, some even better ones were excluded, they've gone down over the years.

[FireHawk]

I think Chris Cornell is phenomenal with Soundgarden how can you not like Spoonman

 

 

I also btw like Seether's duet with Amy Lee >.>

[Lyson]

i see everyone here doesn't like the amy lee version, i have both versions...and i think their both nice, his solo version is more emotional though to be honest.

And as for Spoonman XD lol, thats actually the one song of theirs i dont like ; lol

[Pheonix791989]

Cornell was alright but soundgarden didn't really have the impact as Nirvana, and corection in your fist post woody, you should mean after his murder. thats beside the point though. If you look at the impact that nirvana has on todays kids verses soundgardens, (and yes I did reasearch on this for a paper) Nirvana has more of an influence through music from a band to the kid sitting next to you (unless he happens to be an uncultured dolt) My opnion is that Nirvana will always be on top of the grunge pile.

[Stenners]

Smashing Pumpkins when they flutterd with Grunge were far better at it then Nirvana ever was, same with Sonic Youth when they finnaly decided to do it with 'Dirty', the are plenty of others that are better then Nirvana but Nirvana most deffinatly did have the largest impact.

[FireHawk]

Smashing Pumpkins when they flutterd with Grunge were far better at it then Nirvana ever was, same with Sonic Youth when they finnaly decided to do it with 'Dirty', the are plenty of others that are better then Nirvana but Nirvana most deffinatly did have the largest impact.

 

That was point I was trying to make with Soundgarden

[GraDoN]

i still dont get why people make such a big thing over kurt cobain.... i mean yeah he had a bright future but why the hype?

"hey prick! NEVER insult kurt cobain, he was a fucking legend in his time and if he was still around, he'd still be top of the charts... fucking pisswilly"

why would people say that? o.O