Help To Change LPF

[Ravynlee]

If I do this, you wont keep anything, it will be a 100% fresh.

Clean is the way to go, I mean clean slate. We all start off again and build it from the ground up, leaving our reputations, our post counts, and previous hangups here.

I think this would be best, that way those of us who wish to stay here can do so and those that wish to frequent both can also, with a clear distinction between the two. I don't think Chris means this new site as LPFs sister site, it's a NEW site, so therefore it should start NEW.

Just my two cents.

Bravo again. I can't program my way around a cereal box, but I'll help where I can

[woodyloveslinkin]

Does it mean also I can get rid of my shitty 4 year old username and start over with a name that doesn't involve an ego from a teenage girl loving Linkin Park?

[Ravynlee]

Wouldn't see why not but again that's up to Chris.

 

And that's a new thought... a new name... am so used to Ravyn, could I be anything else?!

XD

[Peterdea]

LOL I'd have a few names to consider:

Peterdea (of course)

Durling

Morbithida

DrRichards

...

...

But I think Peterdea would win...

 

 

And I'd be willing to help do whatever is needed assuming I can learn how to do whatever that is. Let us know!

[HaziLPTonz]

i think itd be a great idea, starting afresh is always good

 

although, the thing that draws people to forum is the specificness of the forum, if we're starting afresh, we still need something that draws people, having a general..."forum" just wont cut the mustard as noone will join as they have no idea as to what its about

 

oh, be good if the members here can prechoose usernames so we can at least know who we are, cause itll be hard to decipher whos who if we're choosing new names, certainly id like to change mine

 

and in this "new forum", we're gona need an LP section i think thats for certain, i mean regardless the new place will firstly be made up of LP members from this forum, or at least an..."LPF members/community section"

[ATLien]

Tonz;588254']i think itd be a great idea, starting afresh is always good

 

although, the thing that draws people to forum is the specificness of the forum, if we're starting afresh, we still need something that draws people, having a general..."forum" just wont cut the mustard as noone will join as they have no idea as to what its about

 

oh, be good if the members here can prechoose usernames so we can at least know who we are, cause itll be hard to decipher whos who if we're choosing new names, certainly id like to change mine

 

and in this "new forum", we're gona need an LP section i think thats for certain, i mean regardless the new place will firstly be made up of LP members from this forum, or at least an..."LPF members/community section"

 

Clean is the way to go, I mean clean slate. We all start off again and build it from the ground up, leaving our reputations, our post counts, and previous hangups here.

I think this would be best, that way those of us who wish to stay here can do so and those that wish to frequent both can also, with a clear distinction between the two. I don't think Chris means this new site as LPFs sister site, it's a NEW site, so therefore it should start NEW.

Just my two cents.

Bravo again. I can't program my way around a cereal box, but I'll help where I can

 

I have thought about the same thing you did concerning the general-ness of a forum not drawing people in.

 

No, LPF section. 100% fresh start! I am not sure if I am going to do this, it is just an idea. I would like to get more of ya'lls feedback.

[woodyloveslinkin]

LOL I'd have a few names to consider:

Peterdea (of course)

Durling

Morbithida

DrRichards

...

...

But I think Peterdea would win...

 

 

And I'd be willing to help do whatever is needed assuming I can learn how to do whatever that is. Let us know!

 

Thanks to my username people have mistaken me for a guy so I'm gonna get just plain old Sarah as my username and we'll see then who mistakes me for a guy.

[MrsBennington-Delson]

I think that idea to clean up everything is pretty good :thumbsup:

It wouldnt just like fresh up LPF we'd also get rid of millions of random useless spam threads etc

and I'd also be for a new layout something with more color... the grey and black is kinda depressing after a while =S dunno...

 

and bout the usernames Idk its possible to change but like in Sarah's case I guess she really dislikes her username so she'd either be able to change it or like if we start from point zero with 0 rep etc she'd be able to register again (if no username changing is possible)

so yeh ^^ lol

[Ravynlee]

Why not sticky this back out front on home page / news page again?

 

Yes I know it's a little distasteful in being this is LPF and for the most part we're talking about branching off elsewhere (I don't mean literally, but mutany is such a harsh word! XD) to a new site, but since there is no reason to divide loyalties (meaning we can be members of each) then I don't see why bringing this to more people's attention can't hurt.

 

No insult intended to the owners here as this has been one of my most frequented sites over the years, but the fact they aren't around that much and their finger's not proverbially on the pulse here anymore (maybe going somewhere else where there is more interraction we can cut down much of these frustrating spam-bots as was noted earlier) would be a good incentive to shift. That and let's face it, until LP brings out albums the less than hardcore fans flitter in and out of this place with nothing to really 'keep' them here.

 

I'm all for spreading the word - and as I say I mean no disrespect to LPF because I still love it. It's just... lost it's sheen a little.

[Friðbjörn]

hello.

a few months ago I thought I'd be all dramatic and leave and not come back for x number of years.

as you will have noticed the world's financial policy of greed is grinding to a halt, nowhere has it been worse than where I live.

so at grave times you start thinking about what's important and I realized I really care about this place, the people of this place and my friends here

I thought of all the friendships I've made here, all those that I have lost and how much I don't wanna lose any more friendships.

 

I really like this idea of a new forum with a clean slate. anyone here besides ATLien remember myehangout.com ? it was a really cool place with members from here mostly, talking about stuff not related to LP and it worked out fine, at least for a while.

 

I remember hearing about how lpf's pretty much dead right now and how this idea came from Chris to do this and I thought what the hell. I wanna come back and be a part of this again, especially if we start over and really do something new and great.

 

one main theme could be nice, television, visual arts, music, whatever. something that draws new members. promotion will be needed, and I'm pretty sure I could lure some of my friends that have like me, left this place, to go visit the new one. I know I'd be excited about it...

[Ravynlee]

OMG Vi !! I'VE MISSED YOU!! Where have you been, man?! Well while I'm not glad the elements pushed you to it, I am thankful at least something 'good' came from it, selfish I know, but I agree with your sentiment, when you stop and tally up what's really important in life you see things a little clearer - and I for one am glad to see your username back in this place again! Yay!

 

Having said that, I don't know what else Chris has in mind, he did mention the fact whatever he was thinking might not be possible, I sincerely hope he can work around it, but til then I guess we just have to wait and see.

 

Still stoked to see you back though. Regardless how long (or brief) it is.

 

I suppose of course the alternative would be to go to another small social site already established and strike root there? But anyway, like you, hope to see something new start up. Not that I want to see this place go under, I'll still be here as always, but a breath of fresh air would be an awesome step in the right direction too just quietly

[Acezorz]

I'm all for this too! Whilst I'm still a Linkin Park fan, I find myself lurking and posting more in the General section now than any Linkin Park ones.

[Friðbjörn]

OMG Vi !! I'VE MISSED YOU!! Where have you been, man?! Well while I'm not glad the elements pushed you to it, I am thankful at least something 'good' came from it, selfish I know, but I agree with your sentiment, when you stop and tally up what's really important in life you see things a little clearer - and I for one am glad to see your username back in this place again! Yay!

 

Having said that, I don't know what else Chris has in mind, he did mention the fact whatever he was thinking might not be possible, I sincerely hope he can work around it, but til then I guess we just have to wait and see.

 

Still stoked to see you back though. Regardless how long (or brief) it is.

 

I suppose of course the alternative would be to go to another small social site already established and strike root there? But anyway, like you, hope to see something new start up. Not that I want to see this place go under, I'll still be here as always, but a breath of fresh air would be an awesome step in the right direction too just quietly

missed you too, it's great to see that there are at least some good old friends on here =)

 

I could go on for long about the mixed feelings Im having right now but I dont wanna hijack the thread

 

I hope this will be possible, but I mean if Chris can't, surely someone else can. I think I remember Gradon talking about donating and stuff, so

 

 

Ill keep my hopes up anyway

[Black_Angel]

Hi Sir Fri! *waves*

 

Anyway yeah I think another forum is a good idea too, it will give me the chance to change my rubbish year 9 username!! And we can get more people there too indead of just specifically LP fans (even though alot of us here aren't anymore).

[azemkamikaze03]

I think if a new forum starts up and im in full support for one it should still be LP centered. Just more flexible. There are a lot of fansites that have a lot of catagories and a lot of other things to do besides just LP but they still have thoes sections and when new cd's or interesting news comes up they are always boomin. main reason i say we should have it LP themed is because a lot of our members who are still LP fans come here not just for the community but they know about LP and when news comes around they come here and give it to us first. If we make this general forums site we compete with almost every other forum in the world. if its LP themed theres a select few so we have a better chance of pullin in more members.

[azemkamikaze03]

Lol ok so i made a basic conceptual layout of how i thought the forums could look

everything u see on here is conceptual including the name

i stole the basic forums stuff from another web page, mainly cuz itd take waaay to long to make all of that lol but like i said conceptualize

 

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/9908/21stichescopybe9.png

[Stllmn8j]

Lol ok so i made a basic conceptual layout of how i thought the forums could look

everything u see on here is conceptual including the name

i stole the basic forums stuff from another web page, mainly cuz itd take waaay to long to make all of that lol but like i said conceptualize

 

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/9908/21stichescopybe9.png

 

 

Will it be in english?

[azemkamikaze03]

naw, french is a growing language which means lpf is moving towards a more culturally excepting forums lol

[Friðbjörn]

Hi Sir Fri! *waves*

 

Anyway yeah I think another forum is a good idea too, it will give me the chance to change my rubbish year 9 username!! And we can get more people there too indead of just specifically LP fans (even though alot of us here aren't anymore).

hellooo whatsup:D

 

 

yeah I'd really like that. I'd try and scrape the barrel for a new username for myself as well, this one hasn't really worked well, although I guess it's easily recognized lol

 

 

 

 

Im not sure about this idea of making the new forum LP themed somehow. and Im not just saying that cause Im not a fan anymore, Im mainly saying it cause this site being still LP themed doesn't seem to rake in any new members...

so in that way it doesn't make any sense making a new site just to have it be exactly the same. if we're gonna keep the same themes and things we might just as well keep being here. the only thing we'd accomplish would be getting away from the rule of Coredump or whoever it is that runs this site now.

 

but yeah okay I mean if that ends up being the case, a new site with a partial or full LP theme I won't complain, I just want something to happen with this place or a new place. some action, old friends reuniting, making new friendships and so on

 

myehangout was working fine and the general theme there was something like entertainment, like TV and music and what not. the only thing that collapsed myehangout in terms of sociality was the fact we still had LPF so there was no point in being discussing the same things in two places. now if we were to all move over to a new forum or if this place simply were not to exist anymore that problem would be solved and we could enjoy a new forum. or what? Im just thinking out loud here, brainstorming

[azemkamikaze03]

Well, this is my argument for the LP themed.

Ur spot on, on why MyEhangout failed.

I just think that a general forums only has to real ranks

either its good or its bad. Look at all the other general forums

loosly moderated sites(similar to ours) are filled with assholes who really in my opinion take away from the fun of the place. strickly moderated sites(like every other lp fansite) make shit boring because while on here u can get away with some shit on their u cant even start threads without being scared of being banned. And when you open a site that welcomes in not just LP fans but every tom dick and harry out there ur bound to get not just one new douche every 3 months but several. Eventually as the site grows larger you get more and more assholes to deal with. I think if we kind of make a specific forum we weed out some of the douchebags...not to mention a lot of ppl look for forum specific websites...think about the forums u visit, i think generally they tend to be something related to something specific u like. Maybe u like guitar, so you go to a guitar forums because u can always get updates on new tabs or brands that come out and on the side u can also take part in socializing in the community.

 

The reason, this forum in particular doesnt bring in any big numbers is because its failed to promote. Outside of a welcoming community what does LPF have to offer? Up to date lp news? No we get beat out news wise by almost every other site...a consistant amount of updates to the site? our owner probably doesnt even remember his password for this site...contests? we dont even have an owner to help give money...

 

if we encourage ppl to have up to date news, have new advancements in terms of layouts and additional programs, if we hold contests and really show initiative then ppl from other LP sites will come and in that way our site still grows in terms of activities, but we dont have to jeapordize our overall community

 

I dont think when ppl search the web they look for forums that are just general forums...i think they look for specific forums that can cater to their needs. How'd di u guys find this forum? Cuz u just wanted a place for community? or because u wanted a place were u could talk about a band u loved at the time and talk about whatever else

[Peterdea]

I do get the point about the douche bags, but honestly, it would take a hell of a lot of effort to build LPF back up, or even another Linkin Park fansite.

On top of that a lot of us aren't massive Linkin Park fans anymore anyway, the only reason I still log on here is cause a few of the people on here are cool.

A general site means a lot more of my friends are likely to join up. Anyone remember Bairdy? He'd join a general site for sure. The reason he didn't stay all that long was because he isn't a Linkin Park fan anymore. He was into them for a bit, once he was finished with em he ditched.

I feel like ditching here sometimes myself. As I said the only reason I still come here is cause some of the people are cool.

[Acezorz]

Yeah I'm a bit of an LP fan, but I don't come here for LP stuff anymore, infact I don't go anywhere for it. If there's a concert on near where I live then I'll go, or if they have a new album coming out then I'll buy it, apart from that, nothing else bothers me.

 

I wouldn't bother keeping this LP themed, just make it a general forum with areas like Music, General Discussion, In The News etc.

[Ravynlee]

I understand the reasons behind wanting to keep it on somewhat familiar terms, but realistically I believe a fresh start should be a fresh start, away from LP - and a general forum is a better option.

 

As for what brought me here in the first place, yes I was looking up things in relation to Linkin Park (fanfics believe it or not ) but like many that have already spoken, my tastes have changed now, and so have I, so what brought me here isn't necessarily the reason I'd want to stay or to move on to a carbon copy of this exact same thing. I do enjoy this site, I have visited as most of you almost every day give or take for over 4 years and it's as much a favourite site as it is a force of habit. What once excited me about this site no longer does. I still enjoy LP but I am not into them as much as I used to be. These days my tastes are more geared towards general socialising, and again, it's the reason I keep coming back now day after day - to meet up with familiar 'faces' not talk about LP.

 

Let's face it anything I seriously want to know Linkin Park related, I have always gotten it from The Linkin Park Times over all other sites. As Pete said there'd be a fair amount of effort needed in order to get this place (or even a sister site) even up to par with other fan sites let alone equal or better them. Talks of merging have also been formerly addressed and I feel aren't viable - if the powers that controlled this place then weren't inclined to merge then I can't see any great shift towards doing so now - and let's face it, for a quality site you need more than just facts you need a stellar reputation and this takes time, and time is something we don't have with a new fledgling site. You have to stop thinking so far ahead I think, it's good to aspire towards a goal, encouraged in fact, but you need to start off with realistic goals, within a realistic time frame, and using realistic means.

 

The fact Chris has even considered creating something new, and reinforced new as if not geared soley towards LP, tells me that even if he has the means to do this, yes it's a leap of faith, but those that trully love LP won't and don't necessarily have to abandon LPF for all your Linkin Park needs. This site will remain. If possible, and so inclined, the loyal can aspire to create this place as the central hub for all things LP - but really again, for all intents and purposes, a fresh start is needed far removed from this place, giving those of us who want it a chance to branch off into something new and diverse and still have the same old security we've always had here at LPF.

 

And let's face it, as we all grow and our musical tastes change, our lives change, our attitudes and opinions change, why then would we (speaking personally) necessarily want to keep churning over the same old things, why shouldn't we move on to other things that are more generalised? (Using the word general a lot here because I can't think of another word to best describe it, as yet )

 

I do have to add though that especially over the last few months there has been a general vibe of malconent and dissatisfaction that has arisen over this place and I don't think it's just because those of us who've been here a while wanted somekind of overhaul and never got it, or for whatever other reason - I think in part it's because a few of us are restless, we feel loyal enough to keep coming back to socialise but are frustrated that the site that has so much potential even now seems to be left to fall by the sidelines by those that 'run' it. LPF isn't necessarily dead, it's the same as it's always been really, it's just that people always come and go, and we as a site are not evolving. We're stagnating, and all the good intentions in the world won't fix anything, action will, but our hands are for the most part tied.

Just my two cents, naturally.

 

So in closing I just want to reiterate that a general forum would be a better idea than another Linkin Park one. If I want to get my LP fix I'll log in here, or TLPT, as usual

And as for needing to have a mainstream 'theme' or backbone in order to draw people in, like a specific show or band, I say that's BS. The net's choked with sites for all that sort of stuff. I don't see the harm in having a general social site specifically designed for people from wherever, and with whatever interests, to catch up. Whether or not Chris has plans for world domination with this site, if it even goes ahead, is strictly up to him. Personally I don't see the harm in having a social forum and having separate threads or 'rooms' for specific sections like Music or Movies or Games or whatever. The only real drawback I can see with this is that it might open the way for the previously mentioned undesirable elements we're trying to avoid here, but so long as we have active admins and moderators (and an owner tha gives a shit) then I can't see why it can't be worked out. Seeing as how for the most part, from what I can see, the few of us that are keen on this shift are somewhat familiar with one another now, I don't see where there'll be a chance to have mods or admins acting either too lax or too strict. Depends on what the owner decides I guess!

 

If you still want a place with a generalised theme to 'draw people in and boost numbers', take a poll, PM those interested to save any acts of so-called mutiny people may equate this talk to, even look around and see if there is a specific niche out there that needs bolstering. If all else fails I guess we will see as we always have, old members moving on, new ones coming in and the rest of us catchup on Messenger or AIM chat etc when and if we can manage it

[woodyloveslinkin]

^ well if LPF does change woman, don't quit your day job (that is ranting).

[Ravynlee]

^ well if LPF does change woman, don't quit your day job (that is ranting).

Meaning what exactly?

Besides, we both know I have a real day job, if ranting was my job I'd be broke lately, even you have to admit compared to what I used to be like and what I could do, this is nothing.

 

And you don't have an opinion on the matter (on the proposed site)?

You commented in here just to point out the ranting to me huh?

Wow *claps*

Feel better now?