McCain or Obama?

[HaziLPTonz]

i remember it was the state governements who banned the smoking, as its the league clubs who keep blaming the state government

 

and in anycase, im all for banning smoking in clubs, nothing worse than a crowded pub filled with smoke, felt like choking in there

 

 

 

and just, well, a plain LOL@ all the Kevin07 voters, you got jipped, not that voting liberal woulda been any better(assuming Howard had stayed), but yer, theres abit of regret, even if its for something stupid like the drinks price hike, the price hike isnt a bad idea in theory, Australia has a VERY bad binge drinking culture that needs to change, but i spose iven the way thigns are...it wasnt quite appropriate

 

anyways, im hoping for Obama to go all the way, he just seems to have his head in the right place for once, and i think the US needs a different aprroach given nothings worked with iran or Nkorea so far, as well as the russian issue, new players with a new approach may just do it

[FireHawk]

I think the smoking ban is kinda drastic. I think they should have it up to clubs but then again that wouldn't solve anything. So I guess banning is best solution.

[woodyloveslinkin]

Tonz;585162']i remember it was the state governements who banned the smoking, as its the league clubs who keep blaming the state government

 

and in anycase, im all for banning smoking in clubs, nothing worse than a crowded pub filled with smoke, felt like choking in there

 

 

 

and just, well, a plain LOL@ all the Kevin07 voters, you got jipped, not that voting liberal woulda been any better(assuming Howard had stayed), but yer, theres abit of regret, even if its for something stupid like the drinks price hike, the price hike isnt a bad idea in theory, Australia has a VERY bad binge drinking culture that needs to change, but i spose iven the way thigns are...it wasnt quite appropriate

 

anyways, im hoping for Obama to go all the way, he just seems to have his head in the right place for once, and i think the US needs a different aprroach given nothings worked with iran or Nkorea so far, as well as the russian issue, new players with a new approach may just do it

 

I didn't vote for the Iemma government so I can't complain. But I complain anyway because I'm a smoker.

Again, did you even vote in last years federal election?

[HaziLPTonz]

wasn 18, a few months off, at last election

 

plan to vote next time though

 

the smoking thing isnt a bad idea, since clubs can get crowded, i dont mind if people smoke, so as long as its NOT in a crowded/enclosed area where lots of people are

[FireHawk]

As long as you vote you have a right to complain. If you didn't vote at all just shut up thats how I look at it in all governments. Of course this doesn't apply to those to young to vote.

[woodyloveslinkin]

I think the only people that have a right to complain are people who vote and pay tax. I do one of them so I have more of a right to complain than to people who lack even one of them.

[Ravynlee]

Well I do both and I do vote and I don't throw my votes away - as it turns out I throw them in the wrong direction, and now I have to suffer the consequences, and hang my head in shame until the next election. Having said that there was no better alternative. It was that or Howard. Let's face it, another term of Howard (who had no inclination of staying full term anyway and was intenting on handing reigns over to a man who was far less popular than even Bush's Lapdog Jonny was) compared to a new approach with a rhyming Kevy was a no-brainer in my opinion. If things aren't working for you get the hell out of Dodge or find another solution. Jipped is not the right word for it in hindsight, but I still have some modicum of hope.

Sort of.

 

And I don't believe at all in Donkey Voters, these people who say 'I don't like him or him so I'm gonna vote for Mickey Mouse' (If that were true I reckon Australia would have been singing the Disney theme now as our national anthem for the last few years to be certain!) and then complain when someone gets in that they don't like - then they just whine and moan about how awful these PMs are when they in essence didn't care enough to vote against them. People like that, no matter what country you live in (unless it's against Mugabe ) deserve to suffer under the corrupt systems. It just sucks that the rest of us have to suffer along with them for being contientious voters.

 

It's a shame they can't give us people that will A) tell the truth, B) actually do the things they promise instead of just focusing on making the promises sound so damned appealing, and C) are worth voting for. Every election, regardless who the candidates are, in every country, are the same people running the same agendas, answering to the same people (not those that voted them in), and they all wear the same falsely sincere faces. Parasites. Democracy borders on laughable, that's all I can say, but at least we do better (marginally) than the communist states.

 

I only wish we had someone like Obama over here. If nothing else he'd make history for us. What do we have? We're founded by crims to start with (ignoring the fact we basically wiped out the original owners, but that's another topic of conversation at a later date, and naturally one I don't advocate), but here we are hundreds of years later being run by the same kind of people, only now its LEGAL! And we, as a nation, Australia, are The USA's annoying delinquent adopted sister that no one wants around but America tolerates because Mum (NATO) says so. That's pretty much it.

 

I hope Obama gets in. I think McCain is trigger happy and reactive. Obama seems more considerate, meaning, he seems to weigh things up before his predecessor ever did (and the opposite of ours over here that just think -if just barely- and do nothing at all about it!). I just hope America isn't so stoked to get rid of Bush that they just vote for anyone... that would be a shame, not to mention a wasted oppertunity for betterment...

[Jeezy]

vote for obama

 

that's all everyone has to do

 

everything else doesn't matter.

[woodyloveslinkin]

If Obama wins, that's going to alter the course of American history - I'm saying it because given so much black discrimination in both present and past, that's going to change the American history books for generations to come. I've studied Martin Luther King Jnr heavily and, I have to say, without his "I Have a Dream" speech (*groans* which I had to deconstruct *groans*) I don't think Obama would have made it this far. Like as said before, he's fresh and he's got talent.

 

There's a lot of controversy in this year's presidental race because Hilary Clinton is now promoting Obama and so is Bill Clinton (it was in the news tonight that's how I know), but if she had won against Obama, there would be uproar from the anti-feminist crowd. But I've got a bad feeling that something's going to happen to Obama, like JFK wise, and I can't remember the rest of the American presidents that have been shot, (Lincoln? Nixon?) my American history isn't that strong. But correct me if I'm wrong here, but aren't the KKK still alive in the States? I've seen nerve-shaking footage of the stuff they've done in the past.

 

But I fear Obama is like our version of Howard. Yes, he was fresh talent back in the 90s and he got the top position of Prime Minister, but is he going to live up to his word? Now I don't know much about that McCain fella, but there's also an advantage to his image - he's had much more experience in the field of politics than Obama. I don't know the difference between Democrat and Republic, as we just have Labor and Liberal and the small insignificant parties that try to get our votes (Greenpeace, Star Wars for Parliament, Australian Women's Party etc etc). But from what I've seen and heard about Obama, he's has certainly an upper hand over McCain.

[FireHawk]

god i hate how over played racism is today...Obama will win and be fine...

[Sygy]

Did anyone hear about the supposed Nazi plot to assinate him?

 

Also, i was watching the Democratic convention in Denver!! gosh! its so lively, it makes our party conferences look ever so dull!! Aparently, in hotels in Denver they have been printing off Obama's speeches and leavin in the hotel room. i dont know if it true but if it is its really cool!!

[woodyloveslinkin]

Ah, already there has been a plot to assinate him?

My theory is slowly unravelling.

[ugur90]

if McCain wins I will quit LPF loool

[Sygy]

Ah, already there has been a plot to assinate him?

My theory is slowly unravelling.

 

tbh i was more interested in the aparent plot to assiniate Gordon Brown!

 

aparently due to hurricane Gustev and few speakers have cancelled making an appearence at the Repulican Convention! muhaha

 

Im very interested in who McCain choose as his running mate, this Sarah Palin woman from Alaska. Shes pro-death penalty, anti-abortion, big time NRA member, anti-same sex marriage and believes that creationism should be taught in schools. But aparently today shes been forced to admit that her 17 year old daughter is 5 months pregnant! weee scandal!

[Ravynlee]

tbh i was more interested in the aparent plot to assiniate Gordon Brown!

 

aparently due to hurricane Gustev and few speakers have cancelled making an appearence at the Repulican Convention! muhaha

 

Im very interested in who McCain choose as his running mate, this Sarah Palin woman from Alaska. Shes pro-death penalty, anti-abortion, big time NRA member, anti-same sex marriage and believes that creationism should be taught in schools. But aparently today shes been forced to admit that her 17 year old daughter is 5 months pregnant! weee scandal!

Now see, finally a 'normal' person is stepping up! Regardless the scandal, she does sound intriguing! It's a reallife daytime soap - in the White House!

[woodyloveslinkin]

if McCain wins I will quit LPF loool

 

Lol, fat chance. I won't quit LPF because it's not my country, but I wonder how Rudd and Obama/McCain will get on.

[Ravynlee]

Lol, fat chance. I won't quit LPF because it's not my country, but I wonder how Rudd and Obama/McCain will get on.

 

The same way every other polly gets on, fake smiles for the cameras and polite handshakes, and that's about it, if we're lucky Let's not repeat the Howard & Bush affair of the past, that's just humiliating on a national level. Every time I saw them on TV I'd be like 'Jesus Johnny, pick your tongue up off the ground and grow some balls would you? You're embarrassing yourself!' Christ...

 

But personally, from what I've heard, I like Obama. Okay I like the Obama that's all over the news. I sincerely hope those behind the scenes don't corrupt a good idea, they probably will though - but at least the man has some charisma, look at his predecessors, can't fault him for that :ok:

[woodyloveslinkin]

Rudd will take Obama to Australian strip clubs most probably and go drinking tax-free out on the town for the night.

[Ravynlee]

Rudd will take Obama to Australian strip clubs most probably and go drinking tax-free out on the town for the night.

8P That made me laugh. To be brutally honest I would not be surprised. Kevy looks like a simpleton but he aint, that's for sure... Let's hope the Intercontinental relations between the US and us (haha) stays positive, cause I reckon Obama, at least I'd like to hope so, could be a good influence on Ruddy if the twirp sits up and pays attention to the right people - for once. Puppet.

[woodyloveslinkin]

Rudd isn't a twirp. Pete's gonna be insulted. Hahaha.

[Ravynlee]

Rudd isn't a twirp. Pete's gonna be insulted. Hahaha.

I know, my brother and I will have heated discussions about this over the (virtual) table at Christmas time, I can see it now! XD But naw as much as I bag Ruddy I still have more faith in him than I do Howard. As painful as it is at the mo I'm more inclined to give Kev more of a chance to redeem himself than the one that was in power before him. Maybe he can make things better again, I hope so, damnit...

[ugur90]

btw McCain was criticizing Obama on having no experience but she picked Palin as VP who has as much experience as me which is 0 lool....also i dunno if anyone heard on fox news where that one reporter was like "she DOES HAVE foreign policy experience coz shes rite up there in Alaska next to Russia" if thats how it goes i dunno the mayor of San Diego must have great foreign policy experience...hey Key West is really close to Cuba the mayor of Key West must know a lot about Cuban government...Fox is a mess

[ATLien]

Wow, a lot of Obama supporters here. I voted McCain. I can never vote for a president that is for killing babies! Oh also, Obama wants to raise taxes even more. I don't know about you all, but I already pay 9% taxes where I live, and that is enough.

[Clogz]

Obama is a socialist.

McCain ain't much better.

But a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do. *sigh*....McCain. He is pro-life, won't take crap from Russia, and picked someone not yet corrupted by Washington as a running mate.

[ugur90]

I dont get ppl saying how Obama is a communist and wont do the right thing for the country...just cause MCain served in the army doesnt mean that he knows whats politically best for the nation..Obama seems more of a person to me who will when making a decision think through whats the best choice while McCain will follow the Republican/Bush ideas which fucked up the USA in the last 8 years