Give Up "Anti"-Drug Campaigning

[LPHybridSnax]

It's just my thought, but think people are wasting their money on "anti"-drug campaigning for teens (mostly). What they should be spending their money is teaching "safer" drug use, like for sex. There is no "safe" drug use, but there is no "safe" sex either. I'd have more respect for somebody telling me how to be safe when I use drugs and how to avoid overdose as opposed telling me I'm not allowed to do them. I know how I was when I was on drugs, I didn't know how many pills would kill me, but I knew I was ganna take how every many I had. Kids are going to do drugs like they have for the last 30 years for the next 300 years. I'd rather educate them then continue a failing campaign.

[GraDoN]

save use of drugs.... thats funny. There are no save drugs, when you start you get hooked and you use more. The drugs control you. I think its a horrible idea. They teach 'safe' sex, does it look like its working? IMO no, its more like saying "go play with the king cobra but just be careful that he doesent bite you"....

[LPHybridSnax]

kids are still doin it... duh... at least a portion of them are wrapping their dicks up when they do it now. Drugs only control you if you're really that weak. I've dealt with addiction. I'm not saying they should go "yea just CLEAN the heroin needle first" I'm saying they need to learn towards education opposed to control. Drugs will never be controlled, never be stopped, and spending money on a commercial with a dog talking to a girl on how she shouldn't smoke weed isn't exactly convincing me that I shouldn't do drugs. I've seen a few with meth and harder drugs, those weren't horrible, but If they're going to try to scare kids clean then they still need to take that money and pay a meth addict and a crack head to run loose in every elementary school across America, it would be a better use than the current plan.

[HaziLPTonz]

wouldnt work

 

its basically saying its OK to do drugs, regardless of how much you think the anti-drugs campaign is failing, the fact is, there would be LESS people doing drugs, people may still do drugs, yes, but then there are those, the majority, that DONT, because its a moral choice

 

the minute you aadvocate drugs use is the minute u open pandoras box, we need to telling kids that drugs are WRONG in ANY amount, and that using ANY of it is bad.

 

like gradon said, drugs are addictive, regardless of what form, and its just plain wrong to be telling kids that ANY drug is safe in ANY amount

[crazy robster]

I definitely agree with both Gradon and Hazi. Drugs are lethal, whether you like it or not, and even those that are not considered dangerous, like weed for example, can get addictive and lead to experimentation with heavier ones. And even if the person abstains from heavier ones, weed is enough to destroy thousands of brain cells in every use. This is statistically proven. The moment they get legalised that's it, it's like opening pandora's box as the fellow above very well put it. There's no "if you only make moderate use it's ok" crap. Little will lead to a bit more and then a bit more and the cycle never ends. Let's not be hypocritical. There's no excuse about using drugs. There's no correct use and wrong use. Using drugs is BAD in any way you look at it (except for medical purposes of course). My opinion is that even if ONE out of 10 million is deterred from drug use through this campaign then it's worth it.

[Clogz]

It's just my thought, but think people are wasting their money on "anti"-drug campaigning for teens (mostly). What they should be spending their money is teaching "safer" drug use, like for sex. There is no "safe" drug use, but there is no "safe" sex either. I'd have more respect for somebody telling me how to be safe when I use drugs and how to avoid overdose as opposed telling me I'm not allowed to do them. I know how I was when I was on drugs, I didn't know how many pills would kill me, but I knew I was ganna take how every many I had. Kids are going to do drugs like they have for the last 30 years for the next 300 years. I'd rather educate them then continue a failing campaign.

 

You would have to be on drugs to think this is a good idea.

 

(PS - I really did try writing something more, but I found this best states my opinion.)

[azemkamikaze03]

kids are still doin it... duh...

Adults still rape little children. Does that make it right? Should we like say Hey if you are going to rape a child use a condom first. Sure they aren't the same, but the ideas you are putting forth make them the same.

 

 

Drugs only control you if you're really that weak.

Well see, here is the thing...there a lot of people who are...really that weak.

 

I've dealt with addiction.

See statement above quote.

 

Drugs will never be controlled, never be stopped, and spending money on a commercial with a dog talking to a girl on how she shouldn't smoke weed isn't exactly convincing me that I shouldn't do drugs.

Dude, do you know what rhetoric is? That is basically what this commercial is. It's not supposed to make the viewer go "Oh Shucks I should stop doing drugs." it's something that they take in and they remember. It's a physcological ad, more than it is an informational. It's not about whats said so much as the impression that is left behind. And these commercials were not made for you. They were made for everyone so to say that because they don't affect you, they don't work at all is a complete waste of time.

 

I've seen a few with meth and harder drugs, those weren't horrible, but If they're going to try to scare kids clean then they still need to take that money and pay a meth addict and a crack head to run loose in every elementary school across America, it would be a better use than the current plan.

Where you on meth and/or crack when you wrote this?

 

Look...Here is the simple truth. These commercials work. Whether you are one of thoes people who go "OH MY MIND HASN'T BEEN CHANGED" or one of thoes people who take it in and consider it. They work. They've been satiscally proven to work. If they didn't, these comercials would have been ditched a long time ago. Trust me.

 

The point of these commercials aren't neccesarily to scare people. Ad agencies know people aren't stupid. They know that people aren't directly affected by these commercials. But they leave impressions. They see how pathetic or sad the lives of the drug users are on the commericials and they apply that to every day situations. It's a subliminal. And if you honest to God think that we should stop spending money on these commericials then you are an idiot and you are only hurting people more.

 

Marijuana is one thing. But hard drugs...basically anything that invovles chemicals should not be encouraged. Infact I say we should fund for more talking dog commericials, because while there might be 1000 people who aren't affected by this commercial, there will be one who is. And that one person is better than 0. That one person means thats one less soul who has to go through the tortures of addiction. Please don't tell me you are against saving one person.

 

We shouldn't teach safe drug use. That is retarded. Think about it. That means that we promote the use of drugs so long as it's used safely. And honestly, there is no safe way to take in a drug. Weed maybe, but after that the rest is worthless. I can just picture a fith grade teacher showing students which veins are best for a quick high.

 

 

Here is how it works. If society as a whole takes a staunch negative approach stance towards drugs then maybe on 40% percent of ppl will do it. another 40 percent wont do it. the other 10 will be up in the air. They wont do it only because it's illegal and it has a negative light shed on it. But if u legalize stuff or take out the negative light on it...thoes 10 percent will automatically fold. So why would u lighten up(excuse pun)?

 

Drugs over all are bad. People take them to loose inhibitions/control. And while the majority may not, there is a great minority that might make a situation escalate if they are highed up. And when one person gets hurt because of something like Alcohol or Drugs, when one child looses a life, because his/her mom was irresponsible enough to drink while they were in the womb, when one friend dies because his weed was laced up, when one dad dies of kidney posioning, and when one girl dies of an overdose. Then you've got to realize, that maybe if we would take a harder stance on drugs...they wouldn't have died.

[Blue Sky Turtles]

Don't give up the anti-drug campaign. I don't know the stastics over there where you come from but the statistics in this country is that the campaigns produced and paid by the government actually work! Despite who industralised tabacco is, it's a drug that can do more short term and long term damage than most of the amphetamines out on the black markert can do and these QUIT smoking campaigns provided by the Australian health department in conjunction with the government have been proven to use their "scare tactics" on cigarette packets warning of implications of smoking i.e. -

speciman #1

http://www.quitnow.info.au/internet/quitnow/publishing.nsf/AttachmentsByTitle/content_topRight_graphic.gif/$FILE/content_topRight_graphic.gif

Anti-smoking campaign's attempts to stop smokers smoking and this is what they put on packets. Statistics here have shown that their ad campaigns are actually working.

Potentially 190000 lives have been prolonged or saved because smokers heard the message that Every Cigarette is Doing You Damage and they acted on it."

http://www.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/health-mediarel-yr1999-mw-mw99055.htm

The only reason why cigarettes and other products originating from tabacco isn't banned, because it's the second largest industry in this country and it's the largest in the US.

You think of why advertising and glamourising cigarettes have been banned on an international level?

 

Illegal drugs you ask?

I have known of friend's doing ice, crack etc etc and now they regret it. Yes, education is the key to preventing our future, but what is education without advertising the cause? You cannot hire a shitload of volunteers to go around to every school in the world and educate school children on the use and the dangers of illegal drugs. You know why? Because the government has a right to look after its people and by doing so, it has to promote the cause through ad campaigns.

 

**Not every drug is bad***

Only the illegal ones (even though pot has been proven to help with a lot of condition, let us save that for another time why don't we?). Because if you said every drug is bad, you would be including headache tablets and prescription drugs that are needed for people's conditions. But mixed in withother drugs are fatal (i.e. Heath Ledger's sad and tragic death).

Cos remember what the defination of a drug is? Anyone?

Drug - Is any chemical substance that, when absorbed into the body of a living organism, alters normal bodily function.

[woodyloveslinkin]

Well, if that be the case about smoking, I knew what I was in for when I started smoking. *shrugs* I rather die of cancer than be hit by a bus and die rapidly.

[Clogz]

Well, if that be the case about smoking, I knew what I was in for when I started smoking. *shrugs* I rather die of cancer than be hit by a bus and die rapidly.

 

I don't understand. You know, you could stop smoking and not run in front of buses and just sort of avoid both avenues, ya know?

[GraDoN]

I don't understand. You know, you could stop smoking and not run in front of buses and just sort of avoid both avenues, ya know?

i lol'd.......

[woodyloveslinkin]

I don't understand. You know, you could stop smoking and not run in front of buses and just sort of avoid both avenues, ya know?

It's called an addiction.

[GraDoN]

the first step is always admitting you have a problem

[HaziLPTonz]

i vote LPhybridsnax for douchebag of the year for the next LPF awards

 

if i get voted alongside, i couldnt care, at least im keeping my views normal and sane

[woodyloveslinkin]

Tonz;586316']i vote LPhybridsnax for douchebag of the year for the next LPF awards

 

if i get voted alongside, i couldnt care, at least im keeping my views normal and sane

 

I merely praise all the people in this thread who are pro-campaigners.

[DevilDog420]

Maybe its just me but I would rather get smashed then slit my wrists, wear black and cry. Everyone has a different coping mechanism so just because it doesn't work for you, you shouldn't knock it. Plus if you make something Illegal your just opening up dangerous markets elsewhere that isn't regulated. Look at Al Capone and the Prohibition were all those death really worth it? Plus you can say weed is a gateway drug, then wtf is Alcohol? At least I can smoke and drive if I was to take a few shots I'd kill a few kids and drive into a shallow grave. Things are Illegal here in America because we dont make them. Look at Painkillers, My father has a bad syatica and he's takes Oxycodone for it, Thats more dangerous then marijuana. You can put a heroin addict, marijuana user, coke addict, ecstasy user, A alcoholic and someone who uses acid or mushrooms and you leave then alone for a few weeks if you were to come back guess who would be the only one dead. The Alcoholic. I agree with LPhybridsnax for the most part if you were to teach people the dangers of drugs and how to avoid them but say IF you do take them heres how to do it safely, Don't mix drugs, Don't make a habbit out of it, Dont drink and drive and so on and so on society wouldn't be absolutely safe but alot safer then going: This egg is ur brain, this pan is drugs. That makes people laugh and is useless.

[azemkamikaze03]

Maybe its just me but I would rather get smashed then slit my wrists, wear black and cry.

Well getting smashed in order to deal with your "problems" is just as pathetic as being emo about it. In fact crying and wearing black (minus the wrist slashing) is probably a more suitable way to deal with it.

 

 

Everyone has a different coping mechanism so just because it doesn't work for you, you shouldn't knock it.

Yes you should. If it involves the potential to hurt other people, you definitely should knock it.

 

 

Plus if you make something Illegal your just opening up dangerous markets elsewhere that isn't regulated. Look at Al Capone and the Prohibition were all those death really worth it?

Weak argument. The demand for alcohol has and always be greater than any other recreational drug(excluding maybe cigarettes.) And that's why all thoes death's occured. Not to mention most of thoes Deaths either occured because currupt people refused to pay dues, or people refused to pay for protection. Not really deaths due to the need for alchohol. :thumbsup:

 

 

 

Plus you can say weed is a gateway drug, then wtf is Alcohol? At least I can smoke and drive if I was to take a few shots I'd kill a few kids and drive into a shallow grave.

 

 

 

Things are Illegal here in America because we dont make them. Look at Painkillers, My father has a bad syatica and he's takes Oxycodone for it, Thats more dangerous then marijuana.

 

 

You can put a heroin addict, marijuana user, coke addict, ecstasy user, A alcoholic and someone who uses acid or mushrooms and you leave then alone for a few weeks if you were to come back guess who would be the only one dead. The Alcoholic.

Wrong. The answer would be probably all of the above. Maybe not the koosh smoker. And thats if his shit isnt laced.

 

 

if you were to teach people the dangers of drugs and how to avoid them but say IF you do take them heres how to do it safely, Don't mix drugs, Don't make a habbit out of it

Hey Kids, Don't do drugs, but If you do make sure you coke doesn't have baking soda in it. For more information ask your nearest Honest Drug Peddling Dealer.

 

 

Dont drink and drive

Um, have you not seen the million commercials saying Dont Drink and Drive...You will get caught?

pretty captivating commercial aswell.

 

 

This egg is ur brain, this pan is drugs. That makes people laugh and is useless.

You definitely should take the time to think about the psychological effects these commercials have on people. They work.

[woodyloveslinkin]

Maybe its just me but I would rather get smashed then slit my wrists, wear black and cry. Everyone has a different coping mechanism so just because it doesn't work for you, you shouldn't knock it. Plus if you make something Illegal your just opening up dangerous markets elsewhere that isn't regulated. Look at Al Capone and the Prohibition were all those death really worth it? Plus you can say weed is a gateway drug, then wtf is Alcohol? At least I can smoke and drive if I was to take a few shots I'd kill a few kids and drive into a shallow grave. Things are Illegal here in America because we dont make them. Look at Painkillers, My father has a bad syatica and he's takes Oxycodone for it, Thats more dangerous then marijuana. You can put a heroin addict, marijuana user, coke addict, ecstasy user, A alcoholic and someone who uses acid or mushrooms and you leave then alone for a few weeks if you were to come back guess who would be the only one dead. The Alcoholic. I agree with LPhybridsnax for the most part if you were to teach people the dangers of drugs and how to avoid them but say IF you do take them heres how to do it safely, Don't mix drugs, Don't make a habbit out of it, Dont drink and drive and so on and so on society wouldn't be absolutely safe but alot safer then going: This egg is ur brain, this pan is drugs. That makes people laugh and is useless.

 

Too many flaws in your argument mate.

[HaziLPTonz]

by all means, take drugs

 

if you die

 

its just one less idiot in the gene pool

[DevilDog420]

Well getting smashed in order to deal with your "problems" is just as pathetic as being emo about it. In fact crying and wearing black (minus the wrist slashing) is probably a more suitable way to deal with it.

 

 

 

Yes you should. If it involves the potential to hurt other people, you definitely should knock it.

1st Azem part of that getting smashed thing was a attempt at humor, I am saddened that it went completely over ur head, Second I'm most saddened U took the bait of all people. I'm not talking about after I get dumped I go and drink myself into a stooper, Or a family member dies I sell my house and stick a needle in my arm. I was more or less saying after a shit day I would probably go drink with my buddies rather than writing a soppy entry in my diary (A JOKE!!! Don't mean to offend everyone and people who have journals I'm not talking about you...Just need to make that clear before I'm called stuff).

 

 

Weak argument. The demand for alcohol has and always be greater than any other recreational drug(excluding maybe cigarettes.) And that's why all those death's occurred. Not to mention most of those Deaths either occurred because corrupt people refused to pay dues, or people refused to pay for protection. Not really deaths due to the need for alcohol. :thumbsup:

lolwut. I also took the liberty of spell checking ur post man because it looked like u were taking shots while u typed hehe :thumbsup: . Old friend I advise you to open up ur history book to the 2 Opium wars between Europe and China. Also you help proved my point, After a substance was made illegal a criminal enterprise took over, I don't care if you say corruption (whats so corrupt about a shop owner not paying a mobster u let me know), protection money, racketeering it was all illegal and it made a black market for it, and Americans wanted their damn alcohol,whores and gambling God Bless America ( A joke Azem).

 

Plus you can say weed is a gateway drug

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I started drinking before I ever smoked so please Alcohol is the first gateway to a life of drugs.

 

 

 

Wrong. The answer would be probably all of the above. Maybe not the koosh smoker. And thats if his shit isnt laced.

Really I think you might want to check with a professional on that.Google " Alcohol withdrawal syndrome ".

 

 

 

Hey Kids, Don't do drugs, but If you do make sure you coke doesn't have baking soda in it. For more information ask your nearest Honest Drug Peddling Dealer.

Well if you really want to be such a smart ass sir, Maybe that's why Legalizing things wouldn't make U have to have a shady drug dealer that could give you a hot fix. I'm not advocating having a guy snort a line off a hookers tits but at the same time maybe if it was regulated ....People wouldn't be falling over with foam coming from they're mouths.

 

 

Um, have you not seen the million commercials saying Dont Drink and Drive...You will get caught?

pretty captivating commercial aswell.

Yeah Azem I've been living under a rock the past couple of years, mind informing me? I haven't seen the commercial "Hey if ur drunk and ur thinking of driving DON'T. Call a damn cab, Pick Ur stuff up tomorrow" Just saw cops arresting people.Common sense but hey maybe someone who drove into a light pole didn't think about that when he was throwing up on the sidewalk.

 

 

You definitely should take the time to think about the psychological effects these commercials have on people. They work.

Yep completely right. Thats why when your driving on a highway it's littered with crosses, very effective so was Reeeefffeer Maaaddneeeessss.

 

By the way nice welcoming back Azem, I can feel the love.

 

I was just defending someone who was catching flack for having a different prospective and was even getting nominated for a douche bag award, Infact I'll get to that in a second. Plus the emo joke was for shits and giggles I like some emos. But all in all I didn't expect you Azem to be the most politically correct man on the block.

[DevilDog420]

Tonz;587178']by all means, take drugs

 

if you die

 

its just one less idiot in the gene pool

 

I deeply apologize for having a different opinion then you. Lets see First you say LPHybridSnax should be nominated as a douche bag of LPF, now your saying I can fuck off and die and I'm contaminating the gene pool...I would usually stoop to ur level but...egh Kinda grown out of that form of debating, kinda...whats that phrase cun-tastlessly done. I don't do many drugs if not any BTW just smoke cigarettes and a occasional bowl every 2 months (waiting for a die of cancer remark), just saying this kinda is suppose to be the land of the free. You should do seminars for tolerance and understanding you could raise a good ol Westbrough baptist Church.

[DevilDog420]

Too many flaws in your argument mate.

 

You know what thank you very much Woody you didn't insult me, say I'm destroying society or try to make me look like a ass, you are always nice.

 

(Being serious)

[Acezorz]

http://www.geocities.com/hollywood/land/4801/Mr_Mackey.jpg

Drugs are bad m'kay?

[woodyloveslinkin]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I merely disagree with the whole concept of giving up the anti-drug campaign. I don't know what type of drugs the American government aims to prevent its people from taking but the australian government tends to target more towards ice and cocaine, and of course yeah smoking.

[Acezorz]

Well if there's anything I have to say seriously in this thread it's:

 

I started drinking before I ever smoked so please Alcohol is the first gateway to a life of drugs.

 

Total crap to be honest, I go out drinking as it's what people do in England. And not once ever have I so much touched a cigerrette or any type of drug.

 

So how does the quote make sense? All my friends drink socially with me, none of them do drugs either. Infact I don't know many people that do drugs, any I do know I stay well away from.