Give Up "Anti"-Drug Campaigning

[woodyloveslinkin]

Alcohol is a type of drug and it's the most commonly consumed drug there is >.> so technically if I wanna get anal about your statement, you do a legalised drug.

[Acezorz]

I was expecting a reply like this Yes you're right; technically it IS a drug, but I'm talking about illegal drugs.

The quote was implying that alchohol is a gateway to illegal drugs.

[woodyloveslinkin]

Go back to the defination of the term of drugs and as reference to illegal drugs, I don't think he implied just illegal drugs. You think of how Heath Ledger died, deathly combination of prescription drugs.

[DevilDog420]

Well if there's anything I have to say seriously in this thread it's:

 

 

 

Total crap to be honest, I go out drinking as it's what people do in England. And not once ever have I so much touched a cigerrette or any type of drug.

 

So how does the quote make sense? All my friends drink socially with me, none of them do drugs either. Infact I don't know many people that do drugs, any I do know I stay well away from.

Ummm...Congratulations , I guess you found ur poison ? Same could be said about Marijuana...I'm saying the first drug a adolescent will most likey take is Alcohol, and a few of those people will be interested in other things.

[Acezorz]

Drugs are illegal for a reason, if alchohol was as bad as weed, it would be banned too.

[DevilDog420]

Drugs are illegal for a reason, if alchohol was as bad as weed, it would be banned too.

 

In America it was in the 1920's, while that was illegal guess what was legal, Marijuana. Look at Law Enforcement Against Prohibition, LEAP.

[GraDoN]

the only reason Marijuana was legal was because it was used as a medicine

[GraDoN]

if it was up to me id ban alcohol, i mean people say that parties are lame without it but i tell you now, the best parties ive been to were ones where the alcohol didnt feature and everyone just chatted and BBQ...

 

like last night, my room mate from uni, myself and a couple of people from our floor with their gf's went out to town. I remained sober and chatted with the chicks while my room mate took shots like a mad man. Guess what, after a couple of hours he's puking and getting kicked out of the club. Thats sooo cool.... yet they laugh the next morning "ya awesome night"... i dont get it, i really dont.

 

im not against it, i love a soco with lime or a beer with friends but getting drunk really doesent apeal to me, it used to and i thought i would be cool, but its the sober people that end up with the pictures of you being naked in the street.... lol

 

w/e rant more -.-

[woodyloveslinkin]

Drugs are illegal for a reason, if alchohol was as bad as weed, it would be banned too.

 

Weed isn't that bad. It has its medical benefits as well, while ice and cocaine don't have any medical uses. Alcohol can be used to clean stuff (i.e. Methelated Spirits).

[Acezorz]

Weed isn't that bad. It has its medical benefits as well, while ice and cocaine don't have any medical uses. Alcohol can be used to clean stuff (i.e. Methelated Spirits).

 

True, they all have good other uses. But in the long term, weed can fuck your head up.

[woodyloveslinkin]

True, they all have good other uses. But in the long term, weed can fuck your head up.

And so can anything that is misused and abused. Every illegal and legal drug has its side effects. Take it from me, I'm on anti-depressants and there's not only mental side effects but there's a couple of physical ones as well. I mean, if you had a choice to fuck your body up, if it ever came down to such a low level of mentality, would you rather risk liver damage along with kidney failure and the stripping of your stomach lining (abuse of alcohol) or would you rather have psychotic flashbacks ten years later/or dig at your own skin thinking there are bugs underneath your skin? (Methamphetamine abuse)

 

Weed even in long term abuse hardly does anything to you compared to what alcohol abuse/smoking tobacco/doing illicit drugs like ice and cocaine can do to you. I'm not glamourising weed and not saying go fucking nuts with getting stoned, but what my point is there are worse things out there that are legalised. i.e. cigarette smoking - you're inhaling a form of arsenic, (technically the oxidised version of it) which is used in rat poison. Now would you rather inhale arsenic or inhale the fumes of weed through a cone?

[GraDoN]

the best medical use for alcohol is on wounds, so... lol except red wine but not the cheap stuff so technically its not alcohol since people dont really abuse expensive stuff like that.

[HaziLPTonz]

rubbing alcohol is not drinkable gradon =P

 

red wine has some benefits in moderation, so does beer in moderation apparently

 

by no means is it a "bad" drug, in fair moderation it can actually have some benefits, obviously if ur drinking urself to a stupor, thats the problem, a drinking culture ingrained into varous nations, especially Australia

 

with other drugs however, like illegal ones, even in SMALL amounts theyre dangerous, which is why theyre illegal in ANY amount

 

and let me reiterate once more, i guess for those not quite in tune;

 

by all means, take drugs if you are up for it, if your willing to accept the consequences, go nuts, most people dont know what they're getting into when they start taking drugs, and campaigns give people the idea of what might happen beforehand, so take drugs if you want, but dont diss the campaigns, so as long as its getting the message out there and saving lives, its doing its job

[existential_james]

Actually, the reason why marijuana is illegal is because the government can't tax it. lol.

[woodyloveslinkin]

Actually, the reason why marijuana is illegal is because the government can't tax it. lol.

 

Quite true my friend.

[azemkamikaze03]

ok first things first treeves, i took the thing about u drinkin ur problems away or w/e serious because i didnt realize it was you. but i mean my opinions dont change.

[Amatterofopinion]

The anti-drug campaigns used in many countries are very poor.

 

 

I know people who have learnt more from the street then in education about drugs and are safer for it as a result. The anti government drug campaign makes people neglet what they should REALLY be learning and that is procedures to do whilst on certain drugs to prevent any fatalities, shock tactics may prevent people from trying it but if they do try it then what? And trust me from my experiance people over 16 are very likely to try stuff out, people who toke on weed expecting to see a monster in a mirror are more likely to react badly then people that know what to do if paranoia kicks in. The main case in point for this injuste system of drug control is MDMA or Ectasty (which is finnaly being re-classified) people are not taught to drink not drink too much or too little until they meet someone who uses it frequently and thats the most IMPORTANT advice you could ever recieve on anphetiminse as pure Ectasy and MDMA are not accounted for anymore then 1 - 4 direct deaths since its existance. But because the government refuses to tell people the truth behind such things people are either suffering from dehydration or water intoxication whilst on such drugs.

 

Another things is if it was legal moderated and taxed most drugs are safer then alcohol in pure form not only in physical effects but on the social interaction with people on such substances. People on Weed, E or Ketamine for example are not the sort of people looking for fights or to cause trouble as the emotional attachments with such drugs are that of either mellow or loved up tendancies, alcohol is legal yet is the #5 most dangerous drug directly according to a bbc study where as MDMA and Acid for example score under poppers and solvents in general

[HaziLPTonz]

the reason for thier low "danger" is because theyre illegal, not many will touch them, alcohol being legal makes it dangerous as people buy and consume copious amounts, if people have 1 drink theyre obviously no danger to anyone, having a small portion of acid will fry ur brain, theres a major differene between the levels of danger and how much you consume, idiots who get pasted on a saturday night do as much damage to themselves as someone doing a small bit of cocaine or w.e

 

and i dont think having them moderated or taxed is any different to just making them pure legal, because the system will be abused, lie psudeoephedrine from cold and flu tablets, cold and flu tablets are LEGAL but they can be bought in bulk to produce illegal drugs. as a pharmacist i hafto be wary of those who do that, because the cold and flu tablets are legal and rarely regulated yet can be used to create dangerous drugs on the street.

 

plus, any legalisation of drugs is a justification that its "good for you" on a certian level, put it plain and simply, drugs are NOT good for you in ANY amount, and we cannot be telling our kids or anyone elses that drugs are good in "x" amount, it should ZERO amount, thats the idea of those campaigns, no matter how useless some of you think it is

 

and i like the idea of posting up ideas on what to do, not just the shock campaign, it would be great to see a joint run campaign, because a pure shock tactic isnt going to work on its own, especially for those ALREADY on drugs