America's Secular Jihadists: Atheists On The Offensive

February 7, 2007

One fine day in alt.atheism, Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> bloodied us

up with this:

> On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 15:42:00 -0500, raven1

<quoththeraven@nevermore.com>

> wrote:

>

>>On 6 Feb 2007 12:10:36 -0800, "Sound of Trumpet"

>><sound_of_trumpet@warpmail.net> wrote:

>>

>>>

>>>America's Secular Jihadists: Atheists on the Offensive

>>>

>>>Breakpoint with Chuck Colson ^ | 1/12/2007 | Chuck Colson

>>>

>>>Posted on 01/11/2007 11:33:58 PM PST by Mr. Silverback

>>>

>>>Just a few months ago, I thought it was insulting to be called a

>>>"theocrat." I was wrong. "Theocrat" is almost a compliment compared to

>>>what the Left is calling Christians now.

>>>

>>>According to a New York Times review, we Christians are fascists-

>>>that's what the Nazis were. And if we're not stopped, we'll try to

>>>take over America. It's an illustration of how vicious the invective

>>>has become against faithful Christians.

>>

>>Colson is a fascist. And the Christian Right is trying to take

>>over America.

>

> Seems to be too late for your ilk to do much about it. Seems most polls

> have for years indicated that 80% of Americans believe in God.

Yeah, but they can't seem to agree about the proper way to worship, the

qualifications for salvation, even the construct of the godhead. When

you die, do you go right to heaven or hell, or is there a Judgement day?

Or are you buried in order to wait for Revelation's return of jeebus and

the Rapture? Are there only 144,000 spaces in heaven, and how do you

know one is reserved for you? Or does everyone who satisfies whatever

their version of Christianity is get to go? Who goes to hell? Between

the Catholics and the Protestants, everyone goes to each other's hell.

Bring a book, it's going to be crowded.

--

Uncle Vic

aa Atheist #2011

Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped

chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.

Convicted by Earthquack. Plonked by Fester.

Member Duke Spanking Club.

February 7, 2007

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On Feb 7, 7:15 am, Gunner <gun...@lightspeed.net> wrote:

> On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 15:42:00 -0500, raven1 <quoththera...@nevermore.com>

> wrote:

>

> >>America's Secular Jihadists: Atheists on the Offensive

>

> >>Breakpoint with Chuck Colson ^ | 1/12/2007 | Chuck Colson

>

> >>Posted on 01/11/2007 11:33:58 PM PST by Mr. Silverback

>

> >>Just a few months ago, I thought it was insulting to be called a

> >>"theocrat." I was wrong. "Theocrat" is almost a compliment compared to

> >>what the Left is calling Christians now.

>

> >>According to a New York Times review, we Christians are fascists-

> >>that's what the Nazis were. And if we're not stopped, we'll try to

> >>take over America. It's an illustration of how vicious the invective

> >>has become against faithful Christians.

>

> >Colson is a fascist. And the Christian Right is trying to take

> >over America.

>

> Seems to be too late for your ilk to do much about it. Seems most polls

> have for years indicated that 80% of Americans believe in God.

>

> So you like tilting at windmills Sancho?

>

> Gunner

>

The unfortante problem is that most Americans have a belief in G-D

that is very, very shallow. No passion, unlike Radical Muslims.

Without a strong belief system, they will be blown away in the war

that is coming to US soil....

February 7, 2007

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MarkA wrote:

> On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 12:10:36 -0800, Sound of Trumpet wrote:

>

> > http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1766358/posts

> >

> > America's Secular Jihadists: Atheists on the Offensive

> >

> > Breakpoint with Chuck Colson ^ | 1/12/2007 | Chuck Colson

> >

> > Posted on 01/11/2007 11:33:58 PM PST by Mr. Silverback

> >

> > Just a few months ago, I thought it was insulting to be called a

> > "theocrat." I was wrong. "Theocrat" is almost a compliment compared to

> > what the Left is calling Christians now.

> >

> > According to a New York Times review, we Christians are fascists- that's

> > what the Nazis were. And if we're not stopped, we'll try to take over

> > America. It's an illustration of how vicious the invective has become

> > against faithful Christians.

> >

> > "Of course there are Christian fascists in America," writes Rick Perlstein

> > in the New York Times Sunday Book Review. How else, for example, to

> > explain the cadres who took former Chief Justice Roy Moore's Ten

> > Commandments monument on tour?

> >

> > Perlstein was reviewing the latest in the recent crop of hate books about

> > the Christian faith, this one titled, American Fascists: The Christian

> > Right and the War on America, written by Chris Hedges. He details all the

> > wacky killings, like the Aryan brotherhood over the last twenty-five

> > years, and then concludes by saying that Christians are about to do the

> > same thing. Talk about guilt by association.

> >

> > The really dangerous thing here is that, by writing this kind of stuff,

> > they are likely to embolden some nut to start shooting pastors and

> > Christian leaders.

> >

>

> You mean like the way some pastors and Christian leaders embolden some of

> their congregations to shoot abortion clinic doctors? Since when do you

> dislike martyrdom?

You have ONE (1) case of such happening (Randoff) vs. millions dead by

the hands of Radical Islam.

> > Perlstein was honest enough to admit that there has been no violence from

> > Christians lately-but he reminds us that there used to be, and may be

> > again, driven by all those violent Left Behind books.

> >

> > Gee, what a backhanded compliment! We're not as bad as we used to be- or

> > will be in the future.

> >

> > American Fascists is just the latest book in a long line of anti-

> > Christian literature to hit the best-seller lists-all reviewed and

> > promoted by the New York Times. Richard Dawkins, who wrote The God

> > Delusion, suggests that the government may have to stop parents from

> > sharing their religious beliefs with their kids, calling it a form of

> > child abuse.

> >

> > What's behind this witch hunt? Two things.

> >

> > First, it's an effort to drive Christians out of public debates, like

> > abortion and same-sex "marriage," and sadly, there are signs it might be

> > working.

> >

>

> Christian fundies are the only ones who think that these are ponderous

> moral issues.

As opposed to the moral heavy handed tactics of the Leftwing's

Political Correctness movement? The way that the Left uses laws to

ban smoking, restrict the rights of the working class (like gun

rights) or dictate what we can drive, eat or even say?

February 7, 2007

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On Feb 7, 12:40 am, Uncle Vic <addr...@withheld.com> wrote:

> "Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of_trum...@warpmail.net> wrote innews:1170792636.783527.267430@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

>

> > Today, atheists are

> > trying to turn the tables: turning religious faith into "a cause for

> > personal embarrassment."

>

> Hmmm... let's mull this over.

>

> In this, the 21st Century, Christians believe when you die some part of

> you lives on. They believe a man died and came back to life, then rose

> bodily into the sky and disappeared. They believe this man, who was born

> a man without the benefit of a "Y" chromosome, healed sick people by

> touching them or praying for them, was able to make food fall from the

> sky; he walked on water, and expelled demons from diseased people, curing

> them. They believe they are guilty of the wrongdoings of the first man,

> even though science has proven there was no "first man" just as there was

> no "first word" of any language. And they believe someone can die in

> order for them to be forgiven of these wrongdoings.

>

> And they think rational people are the cause for their personal

> embarrassment?

>

You mean like the way that educated people believe that there is no

reality other than what you think it is? That is called Post

Modernism, very popular on college campuses.

Or that much of Global Warming fears have to be taken on faith as

there are only computer models rather than hard data so far?

Much of what the Left believes is really bullshit....

February 7, 2007

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Kurt Nicklas wrote:

> On Feb 6, 3:42 pm, raven1 <quoththera...@nevermore.com> wrote:

> > On 6 Feb 2007 12:10:36 -0800, "Sound of Trumpet"

> >

> > <sound_of_trum...@warpmail.net> wrote:

> >

> > >America's Secular Jihadists: Atheists on the Offensive

> >

> > >Breakpoint with Chuck Colson ^ | 1/12/2007 | Chuck Colson

> >

> > >Posted on 01/11/2007 11:33:58 PM PST by Mr. Silverback

> >

> > >Just a few months ago, I thought it was insulting to be called a

> > >"theocrat." I was wrong. "Theocrat" is almost a compliment compared to

> > >what the Left is calling Christians now.

> >

> > >According to a New York Times review, we Christians are fascists-

> > >that's what the Nazis were. And if we're not stopped, we'll try to

> > >take over America. It's an illustration of how vicious the invective

> > >has become against faithful Christians.

> >

> > Colson is a fascist. And the Christian Right is trying to take

> > over America.

>

> What's gonna strike first - "Global Warming" or "Christian Right

> Takeover"??

>

> My heavens, you loons are a 1MB of laughs.

The problem is that they are accusing Christians of doing what the

Left is already doing. You are right, Global Warming is mostly fear

tactics used to force a moral code.

The left are just a bunch of fools....

February 7, 2007

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On Feb 7, 6:59 am, Stephen Knight <wool...@comcast.net> wrote:

> On 6 Feb 2007 12:10:36 -0800, "Sound of Trumpet"

>

> <sound_of_trum...@warpmail.net> wrote:

> >According to a New York Times review, we Christians are fascists-

> >that's what the Nazis were. And if we're not stopped, we'll try to

> >take over America. It's an illustration of how vicious the invective

> >has become against faithful Christians.

>

> Never mind you 'are' trying to take over America.

>

> Assholes.

>

> Warlord Steve

> BAAWA

The Left is so in love with Radical Islam that they are in the process

of converting to become Muslims.

February 7, 2007

On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 03:15:00 GMT, Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net>

wrote:

>On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 15:42:00 -0500, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>

>wrote:

>

>>On 6 Feb 2007 12:10:36 -0800, "Sound of Trumpet"

>><sound_of_trumpet@warpmail.net> wrote:

>>

>>>

>>>America's Secular Jihadists: Atheists on the Offensive

>>>

>>>Breakpoint with Chuck Colson ^ | 1/12/2007 | Chuck Colson

>>>

>>>Posted on 01/11/2007 11:33:58 PM PST by Mr. Silverback

>>>

>>>Just a few months ago, I thought it was insulting to be called a

>>>"theocrat." I was wrong. "Theocrat" is almost a compliment compared to

>>>what the Left is calling Christians now.

>>>

>>>According to a New York Times review, we Christians are fascists-

>>>that's what the Nazis were. And if we're not stopped, we'll try to

>>>take over America. It's an illustration of how vicious the invective

>>>has become against faithful Christians.

>>

>>Colson is a fascist. And the Christian Right is trying to take

>>over America.

>

>Seems to be too late for your ilk to do much about it. Seems most polls

>have for years indicated that 80% of Americans believe in God.

>

>So you like tilting at windmills Sancho?

Your talent for missing the point is truly breathtaking. What part of

"the Christian Right" did you conflate with "all theists"?

--

"O Sybilli, si ergo

Fortibus es in ero

O Nobili! Themis trux

Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"

February 7, 2007

On 6 Feb 2007 19:50:58 -0800, "Omega" <Omega.d21@gmail.com> wrote:

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>On Feb 7, 6:59 am, Stephen Knight <wool...@comcast.net> wrote:

>> On 6 Feb 2007 12:10:36 -0800, "Sound of Trumpet"

>>

>> <sound_of_trum...@warpmail.net> wrote:

>> >According to a New York Times review, we Christians are fascists-

>> >that's what the Nazis were. And if we're not stopped, we'll try to

>> >take over America. It's an illustration of how vicious the invective

>> >has become against faithful Christians.

>>

>> Never mind you 'are' trying to take over America.

>>

>> Assholes.

>>

>> Warlord Steve

>> BAAWA

>

>The Left is so in love with Radical Islam that they are in the process

>of converting to become Muslims.

A lie is a very poor way to introduce yourself.

--

"O Sybilli, si ergo

Fortibus es in ero

O Nobili! Themis trux

Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"

February 7, 2007

One fine day in alt.atheism, "Omega" <Omega.d21@gmail.com> bloodied us

up with this:

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>

> On Feb 7, 12:40 am, Uncle Vic <addr...@withheld.com> wrote:

>> "Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of_trum...@warpmail.net> wrote

>> innews:1170792636.783527.267430@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

>>

>> > Today, atheists are

>> > trying to turn the tables: turning religious faith into "a cause

>> > for personal embarrassment."

>>

>> Hmmm... let's mull this over.

>>

>> In this, the 21st Century, Christians believe when you die some part

>> of you lives on. They believe a man died and came back to life, then

>> rose bodily into the sky and disappeared. They believe this man, who

>> was born a man without the benefit of a "Y" chromosome, healed sick

>> people by touching them or praying for them, was able to make food

>> fall from the sky; he walked on water, and expelled demons from

>> diseased people, curing them. They believe they are guilty of the

>> wrongdoings of the first man, even though science has proven there

>> was no "first man" just as there was no "first word" of any language.

>> And they believe someone can die in order for them to be forgiven of

>> these wrongdoings.

>>

>> And they think rational people are the cause for their personal

>> embarrassment?

>>

> You mean like the way that educated people believe that there is no

> reality other than what you think it is? That is called Post

> Modernism, very popular on college campuses.

Actually it's called rationality, and it's the in thing over in Europe,

especially Scandinavia.

>

> Or that much of Global Warming fears have to be taken on faith as

> there are only computer models rather than hard data so far?

>

> Much of what the Left believes is really bullshit....

>

There are leftist religious, and their bullshit smells as bad as the

republitards' bullshit.

--

Uncle Vic

aa Atheist #2011

Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped

chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.

Convicted by Earthquack. Plonked by Fester.

Member Duke Spanking Club.

February 7, 2007

One fine day in alt.atheism, "Omega" <Omega.d21@gmail.com> bloodied us up

with this:

> The unfortante problem is that most Americans have a belief in G-D

Your "O" key is broken.

--

Uncle Vic

aa Atheist #2011

Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped

chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.

Convicted by Earthquack. Plonked by Fester.

Member Duke Spanking Club.

February 7, 2007

Gunner wrote:

> On 6 Feb 2007 13:32:25 -0800, "PerfectlyAble" <jrhw@kol.co.nz> wrote:

>

> >

> >Free Lunch wrote:

> >> On 6 Feb 2007 12:10:36 -0800, in alt.atheism

> >> "Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of_trumpet@warpmail.net> wrote in

> >> <1170792636.783527.267430@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:

> >> >http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1766358/posts

> >> >

> >> >America's Secular Jihadists: Atheists on the Offensive

> >> >

> >> >Breakpoint with Chuck Colson ^ | 1/12/2007 | Chuck Colson

> >> >

> >> >Posted on 01/11/2007 11:33:58 PM PST by Mr. Silverback

> >> >

> >> >Just a few months ago, I thought it was insulting to be called a

> >> >"theocrat." I was wrong. "Theocrat" is almost a compliment compared to

> >> >what the Left is calling Christians now.

> >>

> >> [snip Colson nonsense]

> >>

> >> Since Evangelicals think it is fine to sell their religious claims, they

> >> need to learn to put up with others pointing out the mistakes of their

> >> claims. Sorry, Charlie, but your special pleading is silly and your

> >> whining hurts my ears.

> >

> >God didn't evolve Christians with much of a backbone.

>

> God didnt evolve anti-religionists with much of a brain.

God didn't evolve anyone moron. There is no God.

The God delusion makes Christians weak at the knees.

>

> Gunner

>

> Political Correctness

>

> A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical liberal minority and

> rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media,

> which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible

> to pick up a turd by the clean end.

February 7, 2007

Omega wrote:

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>

> On Feb 7, 7:15 am, Gunner <gun...@lightspeed.net> wrote:

> > On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 15:42:00 -0500, raven1 <quoththera...@nevermore.com>

> > wrote:

> >

> > >>America's Secular Jihadists: Atheists on the Offensive

> >

> > >>Breakpoint with Chuck Colson ^ | 1/12/2007 | Chuck Colson

> >

> > >>Posted on 01/11/2007 11:33:58 PM PST by Mr. Silverback

> >

> > >>Just a few months ago, I thought it was insulting to be called a

> > >>"theocrat." I was wrong. "Theocrat" is almost a compliment compared to

> > >>what the Left is calling Christians now.

> >

> > >>According to a New York Times review, we Christians are fascists-

> > >>that's what the Nazis were. And if we're not stopped, we'll try to

> > >>take over America. It's an illustration of how vicious the invective

> > >>has become against faithful Christians.

> >

> > >Colson is a fascist. And the Christian Right is trying to take

> > >over America.

> >

> > Seems to be too late for your ilk to do much about it. Seems most polls

> > have for years indicated that 80% of Americans believe in God.

> >

> > So you like tilting at windmills Sancho?

> >

> > Gunner

> >

> The unfortante problem is that most Americans have a belief in G-D

> that is very, very shallow. No passion, unlike Radical Muslims.

> Without a strong belief system, they will be blown away in the war

> that is coming to US soil....

No whats shallow is how many say they believe in God to

get along. Without a safety net church going is insurance

for those who cannot afford it. Basically when the benefits

of laws created to establish religion without using the word.

When they are taken away, like in Europe, religious

belief drops dramatically. Your average religious person

is deluded or living a lie because the US government

have made the system so favorable for religious nutbars.

Now they wonder why total flakes become President,

and they have cash being flown into Iraq disappearing,

and lies aplenty because the religious trusted Bush.

Man, America deserves the crap it gets because it

feeds religious groups who need poverty, wealth

artifical disparities, to thrive. America nolonger

provides liberty for all, justice and the pursuit of

happiness, costs most Americians far too much.

And you know where all that cash is going, yep,

religious jobs. The religious industries.

February 7, 2007

"Kurt '6502a' Nicklas" <nicklask@bellsouth.net> wrote in

news:1170815009.270983.255220@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

> My heavens, you loons are a 1MB of laughs.

Too bad your 1MHz brain only addresses 16kb segments.

--

Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Heckling

aa # 1939

AUTHORITARIANS ARE PERVERTS. Why?

--They consider themselves shepherds.

--They consider the rest of us sheep.

--Shepherds fuck sheep.

--Therefore AUTHORITARIANS ARE PERVERTS.

February 7, 2007

On Tue, 6 Feb 2007 18:37:15 -0800, "Gandalf Grey"

<gandalfgrey@infectedmail.com> wrote:

>

>"Kurt Dickless" <nicklask@bellsouth.net> wrote in message

>news:1170815009.270983.255220@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

>> On Feb 6, 3:42 pm, raven1 <quoththera...@nevermore.com> wrote:

>>> On 6 Feb 2007 12:10:36 -0800, "Sound of Trumpet"

>>>

>>> <sound_of_trum...@warpmail.net> wrote:

>>>

>>> >America's Secular Jihadists: Atheists on the Offensive

>>>

>>> >Breakpoint with Chuck Colson ^ | 1/12/2007 | Chuck Colson

>>>

>>> >Posted on 01/11/2007 11:33:58 PM PST by Mr. Silverback

>>>

>>> >Just a few months ago, I thought it was insulting to be called a

>>> >"theocrat." I was wrong. "Theocrat" is almost a compliment compared to

>>> >what the Left is calling Christians now.

>>>

>>> >According to a New York Times review, we Christians are fascists-

>>> >that's what the Nazis were. And if we're not stopped, we'll try to

>>> >take over America. It's an illustration of how vicious the invective

>>> >has become against faithful Christians.

>>>

>>> Colson is a fascist. And the Christian Right is trying to take

>>> over America.

>>

>> What's gonna strike first - "Global Warming" or "Christian Right

>> Takeover"??

>

>Right Wingers becoming a super-minority in 2008.

>

>And you helped, Dickless

>

Im curious..how in 2008, are all those Christians going to become

Secular Humanists and lose their religious beliefs?

Be specific, Use as much whitespace as necessary.

Gunner

Political Correctness

A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical liberal minority and

rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media,

which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible

to pick up a turd by the clean end.

February 7, 2007

On 07 Feb 2007 03:33:00 GMT, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com> wrote:

>>>

>>>Colson is a fascist. And the Christian Right is trying to take

>>>over America.

>>

>> Seems to be too late for your ilk to do much about it. Seems most polls

>> have for years indicated that 80% of Americans believe in God.

>

>Yeah, but they can't seem to agree about the proper way to worship, the

>qualifications for salvation, even the construct of the godhead. When

>you die, do you go right to heaven or hell, or is there a Judgement day?

>Or are you buried in order to wait for Revelation's return of jeebus and

>the Rapture? Are there only 144,000 spaces in heaven, and how do you

>know one is reserved for you? Or does everyone who satisfies whatever

>their version of Christianity is get to go? Who goes to hell? Between

>the Catholics and the Protestants, everyone goes to each other's hell.

>Bring a book, it's going to be crowded.

So after reading your spew with some amusement, I note you still havent

answered the question implied. So what ARE you going to do with the vast

majority of the citizens of the US who are religious?

Gunner

Political Correctness

A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical liberal minority and

rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media,

which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible

to pick up a turd by the clean end.

February 7, 2007

On 6 Feb 2007 19:38:57 -0800, "Omega" <Omega.d21@gmail.com> wrote:

>x-no-archive:yes

>

>On Feb 7, 7:15 am, Gunner <gun...@lightspeed.net> wrote:

>> On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 15:42:00 -0500, raven1 <quoththera...@nevermore.com>

>> wrote:

>>

>> >>America's Secular Jihadists: Atheists on the Offensive

>>

>> >>Breakpoint with Chuck Colson ^ | 1/12/2007 | Chuck Colson

>>

>> >>Posted on 01/11/2007 11:33:58 PM PST by Mr. Silverback

>>

>> >>Just a few months ago, I thought it was insulting to be called a

>> >>"theocrat." I was wrong. "Theocrat" is almost a compliment compared to

>> >>what the Left is calling Christians now.

>>

>> >>According to a New York Times review, we Christians are fascists-

>> >>that's what the Nazis were. And if we're not stopped, we'll try to

>> >>take over America. It's an illustration of how vicious the invective

>> >>has become against faithful Christians.

>>

>> >Colson is a fascist. And the Christian Right is trying to take

>> >over America.

>>

>> Seems to be too late for your ilk to do much about it. Seems most polls

>> have for years indicated that 80% of Americans believe in God.

>>

>> So you like tilting at windmills Sancho?

>>

>> Gunner

>>

>The unfortante problem is that most Americans have a belief in G-D

>that is very, very shallow. No passion, unlike Radical Muslims.

>Without a strong belief system, they will be blown away in the war

>that is coming to US soil....

Ive been in enough hospices and ERs to know that its a lot deeper than

one thinks.

Im still curious though about the militant atheists..what are they going

to do with all those (80%) God Believers?

Atheism, just another faith based belief system.

Gunner

Political Correctness

A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical liberal minority and

rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media,

which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible

to pick up a turd by the clean end.

February 7, 2007

On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 23:33:25 -0500, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>

wrote:

>On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 03:15:00 GMT, Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net>

>wrote:

>

>>On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 15:42:00 -0500, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>

>>wrote:

>>

>>>On 6 Feb 2007 12:10:36 -0800, "Sound of Trumpet"

>>><sound_of_trumpet@warpmail.net> wrote:

>>>

>>>>

>>>>America's Secular Jihadists: Atheists on the Offensive

>>>>

>>>>Breakpoint with Chuck Colson ^ | 1/12/2007 | Chuck Colson

>>>>

>>>>Posted on 01/11/2007 11:33:58 PM PST by Mr. Silverback

>>>>

>>>>Just a few months ago, I thought it was insulting to be called a

>>>>"theocrat." I was wrong. "Theocrat" is almost a compliment compared to

>>>>what the Left is calling Christians now.

>>>>

>>>>According to a New York Times review, we Christians are fascists-

>>>>that's what the Nazis were. And if we're not stopped, we'll try to

>>>>take over America. It's an illustration of how vicious the invective

>>>>has become against faithful Christians.

>>>

>>>Colson is a fascist. And the Christian Right is trying to take

>>>over America.

>>

>>Seems to be too late for your ilk to do much about it. Seems most polls

>>have for years indicated that 80% of Americans believe in God.

>>

>>So you like tilting at windmills Sancho?

>

>Your talent for missing the point is truly breathtaking. What part of

>"the Christian Right" did you conflate with "all theists"?

Hummm...Christian Right..ok..could you provide some numbers? Try to be

as specfic as possible. Perhaps some further discussion of the topic

might be in order.

Gunner, sharpening the knives

Political Correctness

A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical liberal minority and

rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media,

which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible

to pick up a turd by the clean end.

February 7, 2007

On 6 Feb 2007 22:47:23 -0800, "PerfectlyAble" <jrhw@kol.co.nz> wrote:

>

>Gunner wrote:

>> On 6 Feb 2007 13:32:25 -0800, "PerfectlyAble" <jrhw@kol.co.nz> wrote:

>>

>> >

>> >Free Lunch wrote:

>> >> On 6 Feb 2007 12:10:36 -0800, in alt.atheism

>> >> "Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of_trumpet@warpmail.net> wrote in

>> >> <1170792636.783527.267430@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:

>> >> >http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1766358/posts

>> >> >

>> >> >America's Secular Jihadists: Atheists on the Offensive

>> >> >

>> >> >Breakpoint with Chuck Colson ^ | 1/12/2007 | Chuck Colson

>> >> >

>> >> >Posted on 01/11/2007 11:33:58 PM PST by Mr. Silverback

>> >> >

>> >> >Just a few months ago, I thought it was insulting to be called a

>> >> >"theocrat." I was wrong. "Theocrat" is almost a compliment compared to

>> >> >what the Left is calling Christians now.

>> >>

>> >> [snip Colson nonsense]

>> >>

>> >> Since Evangelicals think it is fine to sell their religious claims, they

>> >> need to learn to put up with others pointing out the mistakes of their

>> >> claims. Sorry, Charlie, but your special pleading is silly and your

>> >> whining hurts my ears.

>> >

>> >God didn't evolve Christians with much of a backbone.

>>

>> God didnt evolve anti-religionists with much of a brain.

>

>God didn't evolve anyone moron. There is no God.

>

>The God delusion makes Christians weak at the knees.

Atheism makes Atheists weak between the ears.

Gunner

>

>>

>> Gunner

>>

>> Political Correctness

>>

>> A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical liberal minority and

>> rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media,

>> which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible

>> to pick up a turd by the clean end.

Political Correctness

A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical liberal minority and

rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media,

which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible

to pick up a turd by the clean end.

stayhuman · February 7, 2007

"The best hope for humanity to survive beyond this century would be the evolution of some secular global civil society, but the chances for that are severely threatened by those two great pathologies of the human brain- nationalistic and religious fervour. It's amazing that despite all our progress ans sophistication, these primitive traits not only remain deeply embedded and seemingly incurable, but dominant."

February 7, 2007

Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote in

news:fg9js25dg5u2vvkphfodu84no8e7les4cb@4ax.com:

> On 07 Feb 2007 03:33:00 GMT, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com> wrote:

>

>>>>

>>>>Colson is a fascist. And the Christian Right is trying to take

>>>>over America.

>>>

>>> Seems to be too late for your ilk to do much about it. Seems most

>>> polls have for years indicated that 80% of Americans believe in God.

>>

>>Yeah, but they can't seem to agree about the proper way to worship,

>>the qualifications for salvation, even the construct of the godhead.

>>When you die, do you go right to heaven or hell, or is there a

>>Judgement day? Or are you buried in order to wait for Revelation's

>>return of jeebus and the Rapture? Are there only 144,000 spaces in

>>heaven, and how do you know one is reserved for you? Or does everyone

>>who satisfies whatever their version of Christianity is get to go?

>>Who goes to hell? Between the Catholics and the Protestants, everyone

>>goes to each other's hell. Bring a book, it's going to be crowded.

>

> So after reading your spew with some amusement, I note you still

> havent answered the question implied. So what ARE you going to do with

> the vast majority of the citizens of the US who are religious?

Sadly, nothing. Perhaps they will kill each other off.

--

Uncle Vic

aa Atheist #2011

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February 7, 2007

On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 09:52:09 -0600, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com>

wrote:

>Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote in

>news:fg9js25dg5u2vvkphfodu84no8e7les4cb@4ax.com:

>

>> On 07 Feb 2007 03:33:00 GMT, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com> wrote:

>>

>>>>>

>>>>>Colson is a fascist. And the Christian Right is trying to take

>>>>>over America.

>>>>

>>>> Seems to be too late for your ilk to do much about it. Seems most

>>>> polls have for years indicated that 80% of Americans believe in God.

>>>

>>>Yeah, but they can't seem to agree about the proper way to worship,

>>>the qualifications for salvation, even the construct of the godhead.

>>>When you die, do you go right to heaven or hell, or is there a

>>>Judgement day? Or are you buried in order to wait for Revelation's

>>>return of jeebus and the Rapture? Are there only 144,000 spaces in

>>>heaven, and how do you know one is reserved for you? Or does everyone

>>>who satisfies whatever their version of Christianity is get to go?

>>>Who goes to hell? Between the Catholics and the Protestants, everyone

>>>goes to each other's hell. Bring a book, it's going to be crowded.

>>

>> So after reading your spew with some amusement, I note you still

>> havent answered the question implied. So what ARE you going to do with

>> the vast majority of the citizens of the US who are religious?

>

>Sadly, nothing. Perhaps they will kill each other off.

I hear they're into ritual cannibalism. Maybe we can have some fake

priests convince them that actually eating their young will bring them

closer to god.

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