Guest John Posted February 9, 2007 Posted February 9, 2007 On Feb 6, 6:16 pm, lorad...@cs.com wrote: > On Feb 6, 1:15 pm, "PerfectlyAble" <j...@kol.co.nz> wrote: > > > > > > > lorad...@cs.com wrote: > > > On Feb 6, 12:10 pm, "Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of_trum...@warpmail.net> > > > wrote: > > > >http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1766358/posts > > > > > And in the midst of these best-selling books that try to embarrass us > > > > out of our faith, we ought to remember the words of the Apostle Paul: > > > > "I am not ashamed of the Gospel, because it is the power of God for > > > > all those who believe." > > > > Well, I give you an 'A' for this one. > > > > Any religion hating and attacking leftists are digging their own > > > philosphical graves. > > > LOL. God hates liberty, justice and the pursuit of happiness. > > You are worshipping the wrong god. > The one with the two horns and forked tongue is the bad one. How many Gods are in your Pantheon? I only have one and she ain't one of the Christian ones. > > > He chucked old Adam and Eve out of the garden for doing > > all of the above. > > No, he chucked them out (allegorically) for breaking the rules. He chucked them out because they gained knowledge of right and wrong and before they could eat from the tree of life and gain eternal life. Bad them for seeking to better themselves. > > > God is anti-America. > > It told you already, your horned god is bad mojo. You have the horned God in Christianity (and Islam and Judaism). Not the other religions. > > > Christianity is already > > a death theory > > Get a cllue.. all religion is metaphysical. > And metaphysical is beyond physical existence. > > > it died about 1280 a.d. when the theocrats > > lost to the politicians using religion and a-religion to obtain > > power. > > If that is true, why are you and your bat-boys still slamming > Christians for nothing. > You guys retarded or something? > > > > Western religions have constituted a bulwark against secular > > > totalitarian excesses and regimes. > > > LOL. Hitler, Hiroheto, were theocrats. > > You are delerious. Tell us what religion Hilter headed up.. your own? > And.. many hundred of thousands' of lives were saved by 'non-existant' > Christians in WWII Hundreds of Thousands of lives were NOT saved by Christians. They were saved by men and women who were not all Christians. Stop being so arrogant. WWII was not a religious war. > > > They believed in the > > divine nature of God. > > That's a lie, forked tongue devil. > Why? because your contention makes no sense.. even though it implies > that religiousity was the cause of the crimes that they committed. And you lie by claiming that Christianity "saved" the world during WWII. > > > China, Russia, Britian, USA, all > > either oppressed religion or put/kept it at a distance from > > government. > > Yeah.. russia and commie china murdered tens of MILLIONS of > Christians. > One Hundred MIllion all together. > Is this your preferred solution too? Nope. You're wrong. More non-Christians were murdered by Red China and the USSR than were Christians. > > I get it.. you worship Stalin, don't you? Nope. Mother Earth. > > > Read you god-damning Constitution. > > Don't curse the Constitution, you lousey bat boy. > > > God cannot be trusted > > so must be kept from establishing himself in government. > > And how would you know? > You've been talking to the wrong god. Has your God been talking to you? > > > God could be wrong for you so you are free to express all > > religious differences. > > Ok then.. let Christians practice their religion in peace, already. > Right? Deal? Sure, if they will let me practice mine. Unfortunately they won't so they get what they deserve. Tit for tat. An eye for an eye. Now where did I read that line? Maybe the King James Version of your fables? > > > Hell you can't even help the God soaked > > into a job because the founders put a no religious test clause. > > Cut back on the whacky tobackey.. it's getting to ya. > > > You sad theocrats would love America to ditch its constitution, > > but it won't happen because it ain't based on God its transcends God. > > Geez. Sorry.. Never said any such thing. But there are many things in the Constitution that Christians don't like and would love for a chance at a rewrite. Admit it. > > > We the People! Of the People! By the People. > > Right on! I hear ya, dawg. Something we agree on. > > > > By attacking Christian churches they make their own subjugation more > > > certain. > > > LOL>. Churches have been at the forefront of putting stupid into the > > Whitehouse, now they can't take the rapping they are getting. Oh, poor > > pooh them! > > No. Supposedly about 49% of the US put you-know-who in the whitehouse. > Hard core bible-thumpers only comprise 17% of the populace. max. If he didn't have the near unamimous support of the Evangelicals then he loses. See what happened in November when the Evangelicals stayed home? > > And many of them are now spinning around vigorously calling you-know- > who the one-and only anti-Christ. > People believe what they want to believe. Just like you. And you. > > > > In other words.. they are dumbasses serving the interests of > > > neocons... as well as lost souls. > > > LOL. Neocons are stupid theocrats. > > No. Neocons are the antithesis of theists. > They seek to subjugate any and everyone. > They step on religion just like they step on national laws. Given the chance, they certaintly will. > > The Church serves as a barrier to their control... > A counter authority - just as it did in Poland fighting the communist > neocons. No. The people serve as a barrier to their control. The Church can get behind the people like it got behind Solidarity in Poland. You've got it backwards. > > For you to go needlessly gnawing at the neocons' natural foes.. is for > you to be a neocon minion... > Among other things. When are the Evangelicals going to realize that they are natural foes of the Neocons? When are the Evangelicals going to realize that liberals show more of your God's beliefs than the Neocons? Since you can't see that the evangelicals support GW Bush and this crooked Administration that makes you worse than a minion. John. - Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Quote
Guest Brian Henderson Posted February 9, 2007 Posted February 9, 2007 On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 07:32:17 GMT, Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote: >Reply to what? It was a statement of fact. I made no claim you were >acting like a recent convert to Islam. That was another poster. But your >snippage is noted and laughed at. No, it was a statement of your personal belief, not backed up by a shred of evidence and certainly untrue. Do try again. Quote
Guest John Posted February 9, 2007 Posted February 9, 2007 On Feb 7, 7:34 pm, "Omega" <Omega....@gmail.com> wrote: > x-no-archive:yes > On Feb 8, 12:26 am, raven1 <quoththera...@nevermore.com> wrote: > > > On 7 Feb 2007 13:37:08 -0800, "Omega" <Omega....@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >Want to compare that to the over 80,000 moderate Muslims killed in > > >just Alegia alone by Radical Islam? Or the 500 million killed by > > >secularism from the French Revolution through Hitler through Stalin > > >and Mao? > > > Bullshit. Citation on the numbers, please. Also, Hitler was not a > > secularist. > > -- > > Hitler was not a religious person. He did use religious imagery but > he was not a worshipper of any god other than himself. That makes him > a secularist. As for communism, the USSR killed over 100 million, > many for just being Jewish or Christian. The French Revolution killed > over 250,000 Jews and Christians. Mao killed over 150 million, Pol > Pot killed 2 million. > > Secularism has a long and bloody path in its goal to erase history, > tradition and beliefs. But you use Secularism/Atheism as the reason Hitler and Pol Pot were butchers. Nothing could be further from the truth. They were butchers simply because they were butchers. Their religion was themselves. Sure Communism persecuted Christians and Jews as well as Gypsies and the poor and the rich and the weak and the infirmed. Stalin was an equal opportunity butcher. They would have killed folks whether they were religious believers or not. Religion had nothing to do with it--except in the case of Hitler and the Jews. And that was not because Hitler was atheistic but because he thought the Jews were evil. You're losing this argument. John Quote
Guest Mettas Mother Posted February 9, 2007 Posted February 9, 2007 Hitler did what he did because i ordered so! "John" <dahlgren.john@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1171044658.554646.59070@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com... > On Feb 7, 7:34 pm, "Omega" <Omega....@gmail.com> wrote: > > x-no-archive:yes > > On Feb 8, 12:26 am, raven1 <quoththera...@nevermore.com> wrote: > > > > > On 7 Feb 2007 13:37:08 -0800, "Omega" <Omega....@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >Want to compare that to the over 80,000 moderate Muslims killed in > > > >just Alegia alone by Radical Islam? Or the 500 million killed by > > > >secularism from the French Revolution through Hitler through Stalin > > > >and Mao? > > > > > Bullshit. Citation on the numbers, please. Also, Hitler was not a > > > secularist. > > > -- > > > > Hitler was not a religious person. He did use religious imagery but > > he was not a worshipper of any god other than himself. That makes him > > a secularist. As for communism, the USSR killed over 100 million, > > many for just being Jewish or Christian. The French Revolution killed > > over 250,000 Jews and Christians. Mao killed over 150 million, Pol > > Pot killed 2 million. > > > > Secularism has a long and bloody path in its goal to erase history, > > tradition and beliefs. > > But you use Secularism/Atheism as the reason Hitler and Pol Pot were > butchers. Nothing could be further from the truth. They were > butchers simply because they were butchers. Their religion was > themselves. Sure Communism persecuted Christians and Jews as well as > Gypsies and the poor and the rich and the weak and the infirmed. > Stalin was an equal opportunity butcher. They would have killed folks > whether they were religious believers or not. Religion had nothing to > do with it--except in the case of Hitler and the Jews. And that was > not because Hitler was atheistic but because he thought the Jews were > evil. > > You're losing this argument. > > John > > > Quote
Guest Dion Posted February 9, 2007 Posted February 9, 2007 "Gunner" <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote in message news:69aps25rscro2itc3belbn4gip1mru0d0n@4ax.com... > On Fri, 9 Feb 2007 09:43:55 -0500, "Dion" <dion@noreturn.com> wrote: > > > > >"Gunner" <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote in message > >news:md8os2pklcq3msdovt7e5pujn6vrtg3o9o@4ax.com... > >> On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:50:30 -0500, "Dion" <dion@noreturn.com> wrote: > >> > >> > > >> >"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message > >> >news:Xns98D180DFE8C10vicman@216.196.97.142... > >> >> Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote in > >> >> news:hgfls2donut3mf86pco5m2kgo7462rt1n5@4ax.com: > >> >> > >> >> > On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 10:58:03 -0600, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com> > >> >> > wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> Probably not. However it does appear that historically, atheists > >> >> >>> have a much worse record of mass murder and democide than do the > >> >> >>> religious. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >> > >> >> >>The murders committed by atheists which you refer to were not > >> >> >>committed in the name of atheism, were they? They were political > >> >> >>issues. OTOH, how many murders were committed in the name of > >> >> >>religion? > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > No idea. But its obvious that the atheists are far more bloody > >minded > >> >> > and far more likely to kill, historically speaking. > >> >> > > >> >> > So perhaps its something in your mindsets. > >> >> > > >> >> > Gunner > >> >> > > >> >> > "Liberalism is a philosophy of consolation for Western civilization > >as > >> >> > it commits suicide" - James Burnham > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> Teaching anyone anything on Usenet is futile. Thanks for the example. > >> > > >> >I'd like to know how many people Gunner the Christian has killed during > >his > >> >life. > >> >Dion > >> > > >> > >> Far as I can figure..Ive killed several hundred directly and mostly > >> intentionally and been responsible for at least a thousand more..could > >> be several thousand. Some times one isnt able to match up all the feet > >> and so forth. > >> > >> Btw..Dion? Im not a Christian. > > > >Would you call yourself a mercenary for Christain America then? > > Fuck no. Where did you get that stupid idea? It came to me as I read your posts. > > > >> But thanks for playing the fool where all can see. > > > > All of who to see??? We're all fools in one way or another. Those that > >worry about it are usualy the biggest fools. Not to mention the ones that > >kill... > > > >Dion > > The readers of the 5 or so newsgroups is the "all". > > So people who kill in self defense are fools too? Do you think American soldiers in Vietnam were killing in self-defense??? Do you think American soldiers in Iraq are killing in self-defense? They got you hook, line and stinker Gunner. Dumb asses like you help prepetuate the American war machine. > > A mother protecting her family from home invaders is a fool? Self defence isn't at issue. Waging wars of choice is. You're not claiming your several hundred kills were in self-defense are you? > Fascinating. Id hoped you had a few brain cells that werent twisted..but > unfortunately I was wrong. Killing people half way around the world for America's corporate boss' is wrong. You bring up a mother using self defense but that's not what's at issue. What is at issue is the most powerful nation in the world invading other nations in the name of self defence, yet no actual threat from that nation acually existed. Dion Quote
Guest Mettas Mother Posted February 9, 2007 Posted February 9, 2007 America is child that had to be disciplined! "Dion" <dion@noreturn.com> wrote in message news:4YidnaK6evJTWlHYnZ2dnUVZ_vamnZ2d@giganews.com... > > "Gunner" <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote in message > news:69aps25rscro2itc3belbn4gip1mru0d0n@4ax.com... > > On Fri, 9 Feb 2007 09:43:55 -0500, "Dion" <dion@noreturn.com> wrote: > > > > > > > >"Gunner" <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote in message > > >news:md8os2pklcq3msdovt7e5pujn6vrtg3o9o@4ax.com... > > >> On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:50:30 -0500, "Dion" <dion@noreturn.com> wrote: > > >> > > >> > > > >> >"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message > > >> >news:Xns98D180DFE8C10vicman@216.196.97.142... > > >> >> Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote in > > >> >> news:hgfls2donut3mf86pco5m2kgo7462rt1n5@4ax.com: > > >> >> > > >> >> > On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 10:58:03 -0600, Uncle Vic > <address@withheld.com> > > >> >> > wrote: > > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> Probably not. However it does appear that historically, > atheists > > >> >> >>> have a much worse record of mass murder and democide than do the > > >> >> >>> religious. > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >>The murders committed by atheists which you refer to were not > > >> >> >>committed in the name of atheism, were they? They were political > > >> >> >>issues. OTOH, how many murders were committed in the name of > > >> >> >>religion? > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > No idea. But its obvious that the atheists are far more bloody > > >minded > > >> >> > and far more likely to kill, historically speaking. > > >> >> > > > >> >> > So perhaps its something in your mindsets. > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Gunner > > >> >> > > > >> >> > "Liberalism is a philosophy of consolation for Western > civilization > > >as > > >> >> > it commits suicide" - James Burnham > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> Teaching anyone anything on Usenet is futile. Thanks for the > example. > > >> > > > >> >I'd like to know how many people Gunner the Christian has killed > during > > >his > > >> >life. > > >> >Dion > > >> > > > >> > > >> Far as I can figure..Ive killed several hundred directly and mostly > > >> intentionally and been responsible for at least a thousand more..could > > >> be several thousand. Some times one isnt able to match up all the feet > > >> and so forth. > > >> > > >> Btw..Dion? Im not a Christian. > > > > > >Would you call yourself a mercenary for Christain America then? > > > > Fuck no. Where did you get that stupid idea? > > It came to me as I read your posts. > > > > > > >> But thanks for playing the fool where all can see. > > > > > > All of who to see??? We're all fools in one way or another. Those that > > >worry about it are usualy the biggest fools. Not to mention the ones that > > >kill... > > > > > >Dion > > > > The readers of the 5 or so newsgroups is the "all". > > > > So people who kill in self defense are fools too? > > Do you think American soldiers in Vietnam were killing in self-defense??? Do > you think American soldiers in Iraq are killing in self-defense? They got > you hook, line and stinker Gunner. Dumb asses like you help prepetuate the > American war machine. > > > > > A mother protecting her family from home invaders is a fool? > > Self defence isn't at issue. Waging wars of choice is. You're not claiming > your several hundred kills were in self-defense are you? > > > Fascinating. Id hoped you had a few brain cells that werent twisted..but > > unfortunately I was wrong. > > Killing people half way around the world for America's corporate boss' is > wrong. You bring up a mother using self defense but that's not what's at > issue. What is at issue is the most powerful nation in the world invading > other nations in the name of self defence, yet no actual threat from that > nation acually existed. > > Dion > > > Quote
Guest John Posted February 9, 2007 Posted February 9, 2007 On Feb 9, 1:37 pm, "Mettas Mother" <mettas_moth...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Hitler did what he did because i ordered so! I knew it was you. Don't worry I haven't told anyone else though. It'll be our secret. John > > "John" <dahlgren.j...@gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:1171044658.554646.59070@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com... > > > > > On Feb 7, 7:34 pm, "Omega" <Omega....@gmail.com> wrote: > > > x-no-archive:yes > > > On Feb 8, 12:26 am, raven1 <quoththera...@nevermore.com> wrote: > > > > > On 7 Feb 2007 13:37:08 -0800, "Omega" <Omega....@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >Want to compare that to the over 80,000 moderate Muslims killed in > > > > >just Alegia alone by Radical Islam? Or the 500 million killed by > > > > >secularism from the French Revolution through Hitler through Stalin > > > > >and Mao? > > > > > Bullshit. Citation on the numbers, please. Also, Hitler was not a > > > > secularist. > > > > -- > > > > Hitler was not a religious person. He did use religious imagery but > > > he was not a worshipper of any god other than himself. That makes him > > > a secularist. As for communism, the USSR killed over 100 million, > > > many for just being Jewish or Christian. The French Revolution killed > > > over 250,000 Jews and Christians. Mao killed over 150 million, Pol > > > Pot killed 2 million. > > > > Secularism has a long and bloody path in its goal to erase history, > > > tradition and beliefs. > > > But you use Secularism/Atheism as the reason Hitler and Pol Pot were > > butchers. Nothing could be further from the truth. They were > > butchers simply because they were butchers. Their religion was > > themselves. Sure Communism persecuted Christians and Jews as well as > > Gypsies and the poor and the rich and the weak and the infirmed. > > Stalin was an equal opportunity butcher. They would have killed folks > > whether they were religious believers or not. Religion had nothing to > > do with it--except in the case of Hitler and the Jews. And that was > > not because Hitler was atheistic but because he thought the Jews were > > evil. > > > You're losing this argument. > > > John- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Quote
Guest raven1 Posted February 10, 2007 Posted February 10, 2007 On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 07:32:17 GMT, Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote: >On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 20:45:39 -0500, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> >wrote: > >>On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 06:13:15 GMT, Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> >>wrote: >> >>>On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 19:25:01 -0500, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> >>>wrote: >>> >>>>> >>>>>Go convert to Islam, you are already acting like a Islamic Fascist >>>>>anyway.... >>>> >>>>I'm tempted to say "you're a bloody loon" and plonk you, but I'm >>>>curious to hear you provide examples of the above. Feel free. >>>>-- >>>> >>>>"O Sybilli, si ergo >>> >>> >>>Atheism...just another faith based belief system >> >>Non-responsive reply duly noted. > >Reply to what? It was a statement of fact. It's an idiotic statement, which has no basis in fact. -- "O Sybilli, si ergo Fortibus es in ero O Nobili! Themis trux Sivat sinem? Causen Dux" Quote
Guest Mettas Mother Posted February 10, 2007 Posted February 10, 2007 No , no secrets let the message spread beyond hell and heaven! "John" <dahlgren.john@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1171056992.215998.106280@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > On Feb 9, 1:37 pm, "Mettas Mother" <mettas_moth...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Hitler did what he did because i ordered so! > > I knew it was you. Don't worry I haven't told anyone else though. > It'll be our secret. > > John > > > > > "John" <dahlgren.j...@gmail.com> wrote in message > > > > news:1171044658.554646.59070@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > > > On Feb 7, 7:34 pm, "Omega" <Omega....@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > x-no-archive:yes > > > > On Feb 8, 12:26 am, raven1 <quoththera...@nevermore.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On 7 Feb 2007 13:37:08 -0800, "Omega" <Omega....@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > >Want to compare that to the over 80,000 moderate Muslims killed in > > > > > >just Alegia alone by Radical Islam? Or the 500 million killed by > > > > > >secularism from the French Revolution through Hitler through Stalin > > > > > >and Mao? > > > > > > > Bullshit. Citation on the numbers, please. Also, Hitler was not a > > > > > secularist. > > > > > -- > > > > > > Hitler was not a religious person. He did use religious imagery but > > > > he was not a worshipper of any god other than himself. That makes him > > > > a secularist. As for communism, the USSR killed over 100 million, > > > > many for just being Jewish or Christian. The French Revolution killed > > > > over 250,000 Jews and Christians. Mao killed over 150 million, Pol > > > > Pot killed 2 million. > > > > > > Secularism has a long and bloody path in its goal to erase history, > > > > tradition and beliefs. > > > > > But you use Secularism/Atheism as the reason Hitler and Pol Pot were > > > butchers. Nothing could be further from the truth. They were > > > butchers simply because they were butchers. Their religion was > > > themselves. Sure Communism persecuted Christians and Jews as well as > > > Gypsies and the poor and the rich and the weak and the infirmed. > > > Stalin was an equal opportunity butcher. They would have killed folks > > > whether they were religious believers or not. Religion had nothing to > > > do with it--except in the case of Hitler and the Jews. And that was > > > not because Hitler was atheistic but because he thought the Jews were > > > evil. > > > > > You're losing this argument. > > > > > John- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > Quote
Guest PerfectlyAble Posted February 10, 2007 Posted February 10, 2007 Gunner wrote: > On 6 Feb 2007 22:47:23 -0800, "PerfectlyAble" <jrhw@kol.co.nz> wrote: > > > > >Gunner wrote: > >> On 6 Feb 2007 13:32:25 -0800, "PerfectlyAble" <jrhw@kol.co.nz> wrote: > >> > >> > > >> >Free Lunch wrote: > >> >> On 6 Feb 2007 12:10:36 -0800, in alt.atheism > >> >> "Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of_trumpet@warpmail.net> wrote in > >> >> <1170792636.783527.267430@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>: > >> >> >http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1766358/posts > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >America's Secular Jihadists: Atheists on the Offensive > >> >> > > >> >> >Breakpoint with Chuck Colson ^ | 1/12/2007 | Chuck Colson > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >Posted on 01/11/2007 11:33:58 PM PST by Mr. Silverback > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >Just a few months ago, I thought it was insulting to be called a > >> >> >"theocrat." I was wrong. "Theocrat" is almost a compliment compared to > >> >> >what the Left is calling Christians now. > >> >> > >> >> [snip Colson nonsense] > >> >> > >> >> Since Evangelicals think it is fine to sell their religious claims, they > >> >> need to learn to put up with others pointing out the mistakes of their > >> >> claims. Sorry, Charlie, but your special pleading is silly and your > >> >> whining hurts my ears. > >> > > >> >God didn't evolve Christians with much of a backbone. > >> > >> God didnt evolve anti-religionists with much of a brain. > > > >God didn't evolve anyone moron. There is no God. > > > >The God delusion makes Christians weak at the knees. > > > Atheism makes Atheists weak between the ears. Reciting yourself verbatten, how Christian. Atheists atleast have something between their ears. > > Gunner > > > > >> > >> Gunner > >> > >> Political Correctness > >> > >> A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical liberal minority and > >> rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, > >> which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible > >> to pick up a turd by the clean end. > > Political Correctness > > A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical liberal minority and > rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, > which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible > to pick up a turd by the clean end. Quote
Guest John Baker Posted February 10, 2007 Posted February 10, 2007 On 10 Feb 2007 09:51:19 -0800, "PerfectlyAble" <jrhw@kol.co.nz> wrote: > >Gunner wrote: >> On 6 Feb 2007 22:47:23 -0800, "PerfectlyAble" <jrhw@kol.co.nz> wrote: >> >> > >> >Gunner wrote: >> >> On 6 Feb 2007 13:32:25 -0800, "PerfectlyAble" <jrhw@kol.co.nz> wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >Free Lunch wrote: >> >> >> On 6 Feb 2007 12:10:36 -0800, in alt.atheism >> >> >> "Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of_trumpet@warpmail.net> wrote in >> >> >> <1170792636.783527.267430@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>: >> >> >> >http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1766358/posts >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >America's Secular Jihadists: Atheists on the Offensive >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Breakpoint with Chuck Colson ^ | 1/12/2007 | Chuck Colson >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Posted on 01/11/2007 11:33:58 PM PST by Mr. Silverback >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Just a few months ago, I thought it was insulting to be called a >> >> >> >"theocrat." I was wrong. "Theocrat" is almost a compliment compared to >> >> >> >what the Left is calling Christians now. >> >> >> >> >> >> [snip Colson nonsense] >> >> >> >> >> >> Since Evangelicals think it is fine to sell their religious claims, they >> >> >> need to learn to put up with others pointing out the mistakes of their >> >> >> claims. Sorry, Charlie, but your special pleading is silly and your >> >> >> whining hurts my ears. >> >> > >> >> >God didn't evolve Christians with much of a backbone. >> >> >> >> God didnt evolve anti-religionists with much of a brain. >> > >> >God didn't evolve anyone moron. There is no God. >> > >> >The God delusion makes Christians weak at the knees. >> >> >> Atheism makes Atheists weak between the ears. > >Reciting yourself verbatten, how Christian. Atheists >atleast have something between their ears. Gunner is a fundy, a neocon and a Coulter fan. That's the intellectual equivalent of being struck out by a five year old girl pitching a beach ball underhand. > >> >> Gunner >> >> > >> >> >> >> Gunner >> >> >> >> Political Correctness >> >> >> >> A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical liberal minority and >> >> rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, >> >> which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible >> >> to pick up a turd by the clean end. >> >> Political Correctness >> >> A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical liberal minority and >> rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, >> which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible >> to pick up a turd by the clean end. Quote
Guest Al Klein Posted February 10, 2007 Posted February 10, 2007 On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 20:45:39 -0500, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote: >On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 06:13:15 GMT, Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> >wrote: > >>On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 19:25:01 -0500, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> >>wrote: >> >>>> >>>>Go convert to Islam, you are already acting like a Islamic Fascist >>>>anyway.... >>> >>>I'm tempted to say "you're a bloody loon" and plonk you, but I'm >>>curious to hear you provide examples of the above. Feel free. >>>-- >>> >>>"O Sybilli, si ergo >> >> >>Atheism...just another faith based belief system > >Non-responsive reply duly noted. I'd like to know just what it is he thinks all atheists believe. Quote
Guest Al Klein Posted February 11, 2007 Posted February 11, 2007 On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 19:49:41 -0600, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 20:24:17 -0500, in alt.atheism >Stewart Gray <stewartgray@church.net> wrote in ><MPG.203445c8be0441f998a2ae@news.motzarella.org>: >>Gunner gunner@lightspeed.net said: >>Those who fail to attend services of worship should be arrested for they >>are not true believers who are practicing their faith. >Which worship is the correct one? Which god? Why, Stewart's, of course. The only reason he didn't specify is because it's so evident. (They sometimes get violent if you treat them like the morons they really are.) Quote
Guest Al Klein Posted February 11, 2007 Posted February 11, 2007 On 8 Feb 2007 15:38:34 -0800, "Omega" <Omega.d21@gmail.com> wrote: >So the government has the power to force people live together? Maybe >forced marriage as well? Why not take the kids from the parents and >put them into military boarding schools? You mean the way Christians did with Native American kids? >> Then maybe the USA should stop acting like a drunken cowboy, shooting up >> the place, and expecting everyone else to be in awe of our magnificence. >> That may be tough, considering that our President IS a drunken cowboy. At >> least now we have a congress that won't rubber stamp all of his insane >> ideas. >This is a fight that we did not start. Sure we did. WE put Hussein into power. WE armed him. WE enticed him to invade Kuwait. WE then attacked him for it. Are you really so uneducated that you don't know what we've been doing in the middle east since before WWII? Quote
Guest Al Klein Posted February 11, 2007 Posted February 11, 2007 On 8 Feb 2007 11:34:34 -0800, "Omega" <Omega.d21@gmail.com> wrote: >On Feb 8, 2:54 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <g...@com.mkbilbo> wrote: >> Funny thing about "the left" and smoking bans. Louisiana just banned >> smoking in restaurants, the law went into effect the first of this year. >> Louisiana. Bastion of "the left" eh? >Heavily democrat party control. Even if the people are conservative, >they are ruled by Leftists. So I guess it was those godless atheists who FORCED all those good conservative Catholics to vote for Democrats. Quote
Guest Al Klein Posted February 11, 2007 Posted February 11, 2007 On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 08:57:06 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote: >If they keep going the way they have been, the GOP won't be able to elect >a dog catcher in '08... I hope I'm wrong, but the way I see it, the Republicans won't win in '08, the Democrats will lose. There's a difference. Quote
Guest Gunner Posted February 11, 2007 Posted February 11, 2007 On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 16:35:41 -0500, John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Atheism makes Atheists weak between the ears. >> >>Reciting yourself verbatten, how Christian. Atheists >>atleast have something between their ears. > >Gunner is a fundy, a neocon and a Coulter fan. That's the intellectual >equivalent of being struck out by a five year old girl pitching a >beach ball underhand. > Good to see that high vacuum between your ears is still holding pressure. Im a republitarian and Buddhist..and yup..I think Coulter is Hot! You and your ilk on the other hand, have Bela Abzug as your jerkoff fantasy lady. And that old boy..is twisted as a Slinky. Gunner Political Correctness A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. Quote
Guest Mark K. Bilbo Posted February 11, 2007 Posted February 11, 2007 On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 19:33:32 -0500, Al Klein wrote: > On 8 Feb 2007 11:34:34 -0800, "Omega" <Omega.d21@gmail.com> wrote: > >>On Feb 8, 2:54 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <g...@com.mkbilbo> wrote: > >>> Funny thing about "the left" and smoking bans. Louisiana just banned >>> smoking in restaurants, the law went into effect the first of this year. > >>> Louisiana. Bastion of "the left" eh? > >>Heavily democrat party control. Even if the people are conservative, >>they are ruled by Leftists. > > So I guess it was those godless atheists who FORCED all those good > conservative Catholics to vote for Democrats. It's those magical powers they got doncha know... -- Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423 EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion ------------------------------------------------------------ "For men become civilized, not in proportion to their willingness to believe, but in proportion to their readiness to doubt." - H.L. Mencken Quote
Guest 3122 Dead Posted February 11, 2007 Posted February 11, 2007 On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 07:43:35 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote: >On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 19:33:32 -0500, Al Klein wrote: > >> On 8 Feb 2007 11:34:34 -0800, "Omega" <Omega.d21@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>On Feb 8, 2:54 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <g...@com.mkbilbo> wrote: >> >>>> Funny thing about "the left" and smoking bans. Louisiana just banned >>>> smoking in restaurants, the law went into effect the first of this year. >> >>>> Louisiana. Bastion of "the left" eh? >> >>>Heavily democrat party control. Even if the people are conservative, >>>they are ruled by Leftists. >> >> So I guess it was those godless atheists who FORCED all those good >> conservative Catholics to vote for Democrats. > >It's those magical powers they got doncha know... In our secret high councils, we refer to that as "the Muggles Vote". -- "Keeping us up here eats away at families. The Democrats could care less about families -- that's what this says." -- Rep. Jack Kingston (R-GA), quoted by the Washington Post, in response to incoming-Majority Leader Steny Hoyer's (D-MD) plan to increase the House's work schedule from three days a week to five. Putsch: leading America to asymetric warfare since 2001 Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal! Pay your taxes so the rich don't have to. For the finest in liberal/leftist commentary, http://www.zeppscommentaries.com For news feed (free, 10-20 articles a day) http://groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/zepps_news For essays (donations accepted, 2 articles/week) http://groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/zepps_essays a.a. #2211 -- Bryan Zepp Jamieson Quote
Guest The Captain Posted February 11, 2007 Posted February 11, 2007 On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 08:16:08 -0800, 3122 Dead <zepp22113122@finestplanet.com> wrote: >On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 07:43:35 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo" ><gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote: > >>On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 19:33:32 -0500, Al Klein wrote: >> >>> On 8 Feb 2007 11:34:34 -0800, "Omega" <Omega.d21@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>On Feb 8, 2:54 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <g...@com.mkbilbo> wrote: >>> >>>>> Funny thing about "the left" and smoking bans. Louisiana just banned >>>>> smoking in restaurants, the law went into effect the first of this year. >>> >>>>> Louisiana. Bastion of "the left" eh? >>> >>>>Heavily democrat party control. Even if the people are conservative, >>>>they are ruled by Leftists. >>> >>> So I guess it was those godless atheists who FORCED all those good >>> conservative Catholics to vote for Democrats. >> >>It's those magical powers they got doncha know... > >In our secret high councils, we refer to that as "the Muggles Vote". As if has ever been to any secret high councils... except maybe in the Wiccan wolf pack... Quote
Guest Mark K. Bilbo Posted February 11, 2007 Posted February 11, 2007 On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 19:41:42 -0500, Al Klein wrote: > On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 08:57:06 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo" > <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote: > >>If they keep going the way they have been, the GOP won't be able to elect >>a dog catcher in '08... > > I hope I'm wrong, but the way I see it, the Republicans won't win in > '08, the Democrats will lose. There's a difference. Um... I think there's a typo in there somewhere? I mean, if nobody wins and nobody loses... wait, that would mean Congress would have to shut down... that could have it's upside... -- Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423 EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion ------------------------------------------------------------ "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful." - Seneca the Younger Quote
Guest Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th Posted February 11, 2007 Posted February 11, 2007 Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote in news:ei8os29p77a7dn3te6m90dpgs42n9cobcr@4ax.com: > On 9 Feb 2007 11:36:14 +1300, Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th > <Klazmon@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote: > >>Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote in >>news:n0gls2pe3ufa56jkd8alitkp8l2thv7nrf@4ax.com: >> >>> On 8 Feb 2007 12:05:48 +1300, Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th >>> <Klazmon@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote: >>> >>>>> >>>>> Probably not. However it does appear that historically, atheists >>>>> have a much worse record of mass murder and democide than do the >>>>> religious. >>>> >>>>No where near. The thirty years war between Lutherans and Catholics >>>>wiped out twenty percent of the population of Germany. Then there are >>>>the episodes surrounding the crusades plus the invasion of Mexico by >>>>Cortez and his cohorts. Hitler's little extravaganza led to at least >>>>twenty million dead. >>>> >>>>Pol Pot was probably the worst leader who was supposedly atheist but >>>>note that it was the equally atheistic Vietnamese who put a stop to >>>>his activities not the west. Stalin was bad too following a misguided >>>>economic doctrine that caused untold suffering but note that Stalin's >>>>regime played a big part in shortening the horrors unleashed by >>>>Hitler, so I don't put him in the same league as Pol Pot. >>>> >>>>Klazmon. >>> >>> >>> Atheists have been DIRECTLY responsible for the murders of well over >>> 175 million people in the last 70 yrs. >> >>Nope. You are counting wars initiated by the Christian Hitler and far >>Eastern countries attempts to throw off their colonial masters. The >>later are no different to the war of independence in North America. As I >>said none of these conflicts over the last century got even close >>percentage wise to the war between the Lutherans and the Catholics of >>the Holy Roman empire. >> >>Klazmon. > > Actually..no. Im not. > > Im discussing Democide of their own peoples. By Aethiest states. > > But thanks for demonstrating your ignorance for all to see. > > http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM > > here..help yourself. So you have no evidence for your claims. Klazmon. > > Gunner > >> >> >> >>> >>> Doesn't speak well for your mind sets or your value systems now >>> doesn't it? >>> >>> Gunner >>> >>> "Liberalism is a philosophy of consolation for Western civilization as >>> it commits suicide" - James Burnham >>> > > "Liberalism is a philosophy of consolation for Western civilization as > it commits suicide" - James Burnham > Quote
Guest Al Klein Posted February 12, 2007 Posted February 12, 2007 On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 11:00:32 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote: >On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 19:41:42 -0500, Al Klein wrote: > >> On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 08:57:06 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo" >> <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote: >> >>>If they keep going the way they have been, the GOP won't be able to elect >>>a dog catcher in '08... >> >> I hope I'm wrong, but the way I see it, the Republicans won't win in >> '08, the Democrats will lose. There's a difference. > >Um... I think there's a typo in there somewhere? > >I mean, if nobody wins and nobody loses... wait, that would mean Congress >would have to shut down... that could have it's upside... There's a difference between your throwing a game of your opponent winning it. I don't think the American public will vote for either a woman or a Black man, regardless of any other qualifications. As I said, I hope I'm wrong. Quote
Guest Gunner Posted February 12, 2007 Posted February 12, 2007 On 12 Feb 2007 10:25:10 +1300, Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th <Klazmon@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote: >Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote in >news:ei8os29p77a7dn3te6m90dpgs42n9cobcr@4ax.com: > >> On 9 Feb 2007 11:36:14 +1300, Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th >> <Klazmon@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote: >> >>>Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote in >>>news:n0gls2pe3ufa56jkd8alitkp8l2thv7nrf@4ax.com: >>> >>>> On 8 Feb 2007 12:05:48 +1300, Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th >>>> <Klazmon@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote: >>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Probably not. However it does appear that historically, atheists >>>>>> have a much worse record of mass murder and democide than do the >>>>>> religious. >>>>> >>>>>No where near. The thirty years war between Lutherans and Catholics >>>>>wiped out twenty percent of the population of Germany. Then there are >>>>>the episodes surrounding the crusades plus the invasion of Mexico by >>>>>Cortez and his cohorts. Hitler's little extravaganza led to at least >>>>>twenty million dead. >>>>> >>>>>Pol Pot was probably the worst leader who was supposedly atheist but >>>>>note that it was the equally atheistic Vietnamese who put a stop to >>>>>his activities not the west. Stalin was bad too following a misguided >>>>>economic doctrine that caused untold suffering but note that Stalin's >>>>>regime played a big part in shortening the horrors unleashed by >>>>>Hitler, so I don't put him in the same league as Pol Pot. >>>>> >>>>>Klazmon. >>>> >>>> >>>> Atheists have been DIRECTLY responsible for the murders of well over >>>> 175 million people in the last 70 yrs. >>> >>>Nope. You are counting wars initiated by the Christian Hitler and far >>>Eastern countries attempts to throw off their colonial masters. The >>>later are no different to the war of independence in North America. As I >>>said none of these conflicts over the last century got even close >>>percentage wise to the war between the Lutherans and the Catholics of >>>the Holy Roman empire. >>> >>>Klazmon. >> >> Actually..no. Im not. >> >> Im discussing Democide of their own peoples. By Aethiest states. >> >> But thanks for demonstrating your ignorance for all to see. >> >> http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM >> >> here..help yourself. > > >So you have no evidence for your claims. > >Klazmon. I just supplied it. Unfortunately your buffoonishness prevents you from reading it. Not my problem. Gunner > > > > >> >> Gunner >> >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Doesn't speak well for your mind sets or your value systems now >>>> doesn't it? >>>> >>>> Gunner >>>> >>>> "Liberalism is a philosophy of consolation for Western civilization as >>>> it commits suicide" - James Burnham >>>> >> >> "Liberalism is a philosophy of consolation for Western civilization as >> it commits suicide" - James Burnham >> Political Correctness A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. Quote
Guest Gunner Posted February 12, 2007 Posted February 12, 2007 On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 18:03:47 GMT, Brian Henderson <BrianL.Henderson@NOSPAM.verizon.net> wrote: >On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 07:32:17 GMT, Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> >wrote: > >>Reply to what? It was a statement of fact. I made no claim you were >>acting like a recent convert to Islam. That was another poster. But your >>snippage is noted and laughed at. > >No, it was a statement of your personal belief, not backed up by a >shred of evidence and certainly untrue. > >Do try again. oh..like atheism? Atheism, just another faith based belief system. Gunner Political Correctness A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. Quote
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