Guest Free Lunch Posted February 16, 2007 Posted February 16, 2007 On 15 Feb 2007 04:46:29 -0800, in alt.atheism "rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in <1171543589.336115.264610@l53g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>: >On Feb 15, 2:55?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: >> On 15 Feb., 03:59, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Feb 14, 5:24?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote: >> >> > > On Feb 14, 6:44 pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> >> > > > On 14 Feb 2007 15:16:18 -0800, in alt.atheism >> > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in >> > > > <1171494978.705022.208...@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>: >> >> > > > ... >> >> > > > >Well, that is a myth that atheists like to tell. ?Lincoln said on >> > > > >several occasions that he believed the Bible. >> >> > > > Source with complete context please. >> >> > > You'll never get it, not anything genuine. >> >> > > Our religious kook might give you a forgery, as David Barton did in >> > > his book. ?A forged quote of Lincoln is making its rounds in usenet at >> > > this very moment. ?It recommends hunting down and hanging anyone >> > > critical of the war effort. ?A pundit has already confessed that he is >> > > the author of the quote. >> >> > > The fraud was perpetrated by one of the Moonie rags, either the Moonie >> > > Times or that bag of internet lies called _Insight Magazine._ >> >> > Well, why don't you atheists just wait until after the resurrection >> > and ask Abraham Lincoln in person if he believed the Bible? >> > I see no reason to worry about it myself. >> >> The twit confirms Jjls' judgment. >I gave you an option that would resolve your questions about Abraham >Lincoln. You say you do not want to do it. That means that you would >rather tell lies about Abraham Lincoln. No, you are lying about the resurrection. You know there is absolutely no evidence to support your claim that there will be one. Quote
Guest Free Lunch Posted February 16, 2007 Posted February 16, 2007 On 14 Feb 2007 22:34:08 -0800, in alt.atheism "rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in <1171521248.477462.85280@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>: >On Feb 14, 9:21?pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> On 14 Feb 2007 19:11:07 -0800, in alt.atheism >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in >> <1171509067.020375.38...@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>: >> >> >On Feb 14, 4:44?pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> >> On 14 Feb 2007 15:16:18 -0800, in alt.atheism >> >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in >> >> <1171494978.705022.208...@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>: >> >> >> ... >> >> >> >Well, that is a myth that atheists like to tell. )ncoln said on >> >> >several occasions that he believed the Bible. >> >> >> Source with complete context please. >> >> >I can give you the original source. �alk to Abraham Lincoln after the >> >resurrection. �e can tell you in person. >> >> So you admit that you did not know that, that you made a claim that you >> could not support. >> >> You are a liar. >> >> Why should I accept any of your other claims? > >Why should you do anything? You already said you did not believe in >God. That would mean your life is pretty much a waste of time for >you. You really are a smug amoral ass, aren't you. Clearly, you have never read any of Jesus's teachings, or you would know that your behavior was condemned by Him. I'm sure you enjoy worshipping yourself, but while you do that, I have a life that is unencumbered by lies and false doctrines. Mock God if you like. It is your choice, I cannot stop you. -- "Now, it is a disgraceful and dangerous thing for an infidel to hear a Christian, presumably giving the meaning of Holy Scripture, talking nonsense on these topics; and we should take all means to prevent such an embarrassing situation, in which people show up vast ignorance in a Christian and laugh it to scorn." -- Augustine, The Literal Meaning of Genesis Quote
Guest Free Lunch Posted February 16, 2007 Posted February 16, 2007 On 15 Feb 2007 04:22:58 -0800, in alt.atheism "rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in <1171542178.743999.265250@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>: >On Feb 15, 2:17?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: >> On 15 Feb., 00:29, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Feb 13, 8:34?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: >> >> > > Free Lunch wrote: >> > > > On 13 Feb 2007 16:54:11 -0800, in alt.atheism >> > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in >> > > > <1171414451.120125.63...@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>: >> > > > >On Feb 13, 2:10 am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: >> snip >> >> > > > >I offered to send you a copy of the Bible. ?You have consistently >> > > > >maintained that the Bible does not exist. >> >> > > > How many more times will you repeat that lie. >> >> > > He is lying for god - so it's Okay. >> >> > Well, Bob, does the Bible exist or not? �ou say whether it exists. >> > Don't try to call me a liar just because I called your bluff. >> >> You are a liar. �ou said that I and others claimed the Bible did not >> exist. �ot only was that a lie, it was incredibly silly. �ou called >> nobody's bluff; you just told a silly lie.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > >You are still claiming that the Bible does not exist. If I ask you >about Isaiah's account of the Assyrian invasion of Judea, you reply >with an inane question about fictional characters. So, the >conversation is over. You are claiming that the Bible does not exist. Once again, you tell lies to redefine words. You mock God with your refusal to be honest and your decision to blame Him for your lies. We all agree that the Bible exists, but that does not mean that any of us, not even you, believe that it is evidence or accurate. -- "... There's glory for you." "I don't know what you mean by 'glory,'" Alice said. Humpty Dumpty smiles contemptuously. "Of course you don't--till I tell you. I meant 'there's a nice knock-down argument for you!'" "But glory doesn't mean "a nice knock-down argument," Alice objected. "When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean--neither more nor less." "The question is," said Alice "whether you can make words mean so many different things." "The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master--that's all." Quote
Guest Free Lunch Posted February 16, 2007 Posted February 16, 2007 On 15 Feb 2007 08:44:09 -0800, in alt.atheism "jls" <jls1016@bellsouth.net> wrote in <1171557849.413643.272690@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>: >On Feb 15, 7:22 am, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >> On Feb 15, 2:17?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > On 15 Feb., 00:29, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >> >> > > On Feb 13, 8:34?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: >> >> > > > Free Lunch wrote: >> > > > > On 13 Feb 2007 16:54:11 -0800, in alt.atheism >> > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in >> > > > > <1171414451.120125.63...@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>: >> > > > > >On Feb 13, 2:10 am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: >> > snip >> >> > > > > >I offered to send you a copy of the Bible. ?You have consistently >> > > > > >maintained that the Bible does not exist. >> >> > > > > How many more times will you repeat that lie. >> >> > > > He is lying for god - so it's Okay. >> >> > > Well, Bob, does the Bible exist or not? ?You say whether it exists. >> > > Don't try to call me a liar just because I called your bluff. >> >> > You are a liar. ?You said that I and others claimed the Bible did not >> > exist. ?Not only was that a lie, it was incredibly silly. ?You called >> > nobody's bluff; you just told a silly lie.- Hide quoted text - >> >> > - Show quoted text - >> >> You are still claiming that the Bible does not exist. If I ask you >> about Isaiah's account of the Assyrian invasion of Judea, you reply >> with an inane question about fictional characters. So, the >> conversation is over. You are claiming that the Bible does not exist. >> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > >You are pathetic, Bobby. You've done violence to the English language >with your mendacity, and your only alternative now to propagate your >superstition is violence against the person. > >Philosophers and freethinkers don't do violence, but it's second >nature with you Christians. > IIRC most other Christians reject the idea that LDS are Christians. Quote
Guest Free Lunch Posted February 16, 2007 Posted February 16, 2007 On 15 Feb 2007 04:28:33 -0800, in alt.atheism "rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in <1171542513.177220.219490@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>: >On Feb 15, 2:38?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: >> On 15 Feb., 00:46, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Feb 13, 11:45?pm, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: >> >> > > On 14 Feb., 01:49, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >> >> > > > On Feb 13, 1:47 am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: >> >> > > > > On 12 Feb., 20:25, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >> >> > > > > > On Feb 12, 9:25?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: >> >> > > > > > > On 12 Feb., 03:23, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >> >> > > > > > > > On Feb 11, 4:10?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote: >> >> > > > > > > > > ?Not even just one? >> >> > > > > > > > > Damn, you'd think with all that omnipotence and ego, at least one god >> > > > > > > > > would make itself known. >> >> > > > > > > > Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible? >> > > > > > > > Robert B. Winn >> >> > > > > > > Why, don't you have any evidence to offer? >> >> > > > > > So you are maintaining that the Bible does not exist. ?Do you have >> > > > > > anything to support your strange belief? >> > > > > > Robert B. Winn >> >> > > > > This may come as a surprise for you, but the Bible is not evidence of >> > > > > any god. >> >> > > > Well, it seems we have reached the extent of our conversation. ?You >> > > > are maintaining that the Bible does not exist. ?I am saying that it >> > > > does. >> >> > > I have never said that the Bible does not exist. ?Why do you tell such >> > > incredibly silly lies? >> >> > Well, since you acknowledge that it does exist, maybe I should send >> > you a copy. �hen you could determine whether or not you can actually >> > say whether it is a physical object or not. >> >> Perhaps you could stop lying and apologise to me and the others for >> your lie. �n the other hand if you indtend to keep lying (as your >> posts indicate), perhaps you could make up some that are not quite so >> inane. �robably not. >As I said, we are not talking again about the Bible unless you admit >that the Bible exists. Then we can discuss what it means when you say >that the Bible exists. As we have said, you are lying when you imply that anyone here has denied that the Bible exists. You are morally corrupt, a liar, a false witness, a man whose behavior was long ago condemned by Jesus. Why do you have such an obsession with the Bible if you refuse to read it or follow it? Quote
Guest Free Lunch Posted February 16, 2007 Posted February 16, 2007 On 15 Feb 2007 04:31:43 -0800, in alt.atheism "rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in <1171542703.680913.131700@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>: >On Feb 15, 2:41?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: >> On 15 Feb., 00:47, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > On 13 Feb 2007 22:45:13 -0800, in alt.atheism >> > "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote in >> > <1171435509.605186.82...@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>: >> >> > >On 14 Feb., 01:49, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >> > >> On Feb 13, 1:47 am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: >> >> > >> > On 12 Feb., 20:25, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >> >> > >> > > On Feb 12, 9:25?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: >> >> > >> > > > On 12 Feb., 03:23, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >> >> > >> > > > > On Feb 11, 4:10?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote: >> >> > >> > > > > > ?Not even just one? >> >> > >> > > > > > Damn, you'd think with all that omnipotence and ego, at least one god >> > >> > > > > > would make itself known. >> >> > >> > > > > Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible? >> > >> > > > > Robert B. Winn >> >> > >> > > > Why, don't you have any evidence to offer? >> >> > >> > > So you are maintaining that the Bible does not exist. �o you have >> > >> > > anything to support your strange belief? >> > >> > > Robert B. Winn >> >> > >> > This may come as a surprise for you, but the Bible is not evidence of >> > >> > any god. >> >> > >> Well, it seems we have reached the extent of our conversation. �ou >> > >> are maintaining that the Bible does not exist. am saying that it >> > >> does. >> >> > >I have never said that the Bible does not exist. �hy do you tell such >> > >incredibly silly lies? >> >> > Because he's under the delusion that the Bible counts as evidence if we >> > admit that it exists.- >> >> He is also under the delusion that he is being clever instead of the >> inane twit that he is. > >Well, Thomas, here we see the last refuge of the atheist, the personal >attack. We were discussing the Bible here in alt.bible. Now everyone >can see your purpose in intruding in our conversation. If you do not >want to talk about the Bible, why don't you go live the happy life of >an atheist? I'm in alt.atheism watching you tell your lies. Why are you posting your lies in alt.atheism. Quote
Guest Free Lunch Posted February 16, 2007 Posted February 16, 2007 On 15 Feb 2007 04:52:39 -0800, in alt.atheism "rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in <1171543959.023629.8540@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>: >On Feb 15, 4:35?am, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >> > On Feb 13, 8:37?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: >> > > Free Lunch wrote: >> > > > On 13 Feb 2007 16:39:50 -0800, in alt.atheism >> > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in >> > > > <1171413590.219240.10...@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>: >> > > > >On Feb 12, 9:25 am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: >> > > > >> On 12 Feb., 03:23, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >> >> > > > >> > On Feb 11, 4:10?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote: >> >> > > > >> > > ?Not even just one? >> >> > > > >> > > Damn, you'd think with all that omnipotence and ego, at least one god >> > > > >> > > would make itself known. >> >> > > > >> > Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible? >> > > > >> > Robert B. Winn >> >> > > > >> Why, don't you have any evidence to offer? >> >> > > > >All things that exist show that there is a God. >> >> > > [i must remember to add that 'little gem' to my list of >> > > 'Religious propagator's backs to the wall cop-out's] >> >> > Well, Bob, you were willing to provide us with a list of evil >> > spirits. �hy don't you make a list for us of the things that do not >> > show that there is a God? >> > Robert B. Winn >> >> with pleasure >> >> [Preface] >> >> "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one >> fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible >> gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." >> [stephen Roberts] > >Well, there is really no such thing as an atheist. All atheists will >eventually confess that there is a God. Another smug little self-righteous lie from the man who rejects Jesus's teachings about hypocricy. > Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted February 16, 2007 Posted February 16, 2007 On Feb 15, 6:42?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > On 15 Feb., 13:19, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:> On Feb 15, 2:13?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > On 15 Feb., 00:14, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 13, 6:05?pm, Don Kresch <ROT13.qxer...@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote: > > snip > > > > > Well, actually I was going to discuss the Assyrian invasion of Judea. > > > > Did you read Isaiah's account of the Assyrian invasion of Judea? > > > > Did you read how the Lone Ranger met Tonto?- Hide quoted text - > > > No, I did not. > > Robert B. Winn- > > That explains it then. Well, only in the minds of atheists. Robert B. Winn Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted February 16, 2007 Posted February 16, 2007 On Feb 15, 6:46�am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > On 15 Feb., 13:22, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:> On Feb 15, 2:17?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > On 15 Feb., 00:29, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 13, 8:34?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > snip > > > > > Well, Bob, does the Bible exist or not? ?You say whether it exists. > > > > Don't try to call me a liar just because I called your bluff. > > > > You are a liar. ?You said that I and others claimed the Bible did not > > > exist. ?Not only was that a lie, it was incredibly silly. ?You called > > > nobody's bluff; you just told a silly lie.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > You are still claiming that the Bible does not exist. Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted February 16, 2007 Posted February 16, 2007 On Feb 15, 6:53�am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > On 15 Feb., 13:31, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 15, 2:41?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > On 15 Feb., 00:47, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > > > > On 13 Feb 2007 22:45:13 -0800, in alt.atheism > > > > "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote in > > > > <1171435509.605186.82...@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>: > > > > > >On 14 Feb., 01:49, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > >> On Feb 13, 1:47 am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > > >> > On 12 Feb., 20:25, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > >> > > On Feb 12, 9:25?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > > >> > > > On 12 Feb., 03:23, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > On Feb 11, 4:10?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > ?Not even just one? > > > > > >> > > > > > Damn, you'd think with all that omnipotence and ego, at least one god > > > > >> > > > > > would make itself known. > > > > > >> > > > > Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible? > > > > >> > > > > Robert B. Winn > > > > > >> > > > Why, don't you have any evidence to offer? > > > > > >> > > So you are maintaining that the Bible does not exist. ?Do you have > > > > >> > > anything to support your strange belief? > > > > >> > > Robert B. Winn > > > > > >> > This may come as a surprise for you, but the Bible is not evidence of > > > > >> > any god. > > > > > >> Well, it seems we have reached the extent of our conversation. ?You > > > > >> are maintaining that the Bible does not exist. ?I am saying that it > > > > >> does. > > > > > >I have never said that the Bible does not exist. ?Why do you tell such > > > > >incredibly silly lies? > > > > > Because he's under the delusion that the Bible counts as evidence if we > > > > admit that it exists.- > > > > He is also under the delusion that he is being clever instead of the > > > inane twit that he is. > > > Well, Thomas, here we see the last refuge of the atheist, the personal > > attack. Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted February 16, 2007 Posted February 16, 2007 On Feb 15, 6:57�am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > On 15 Feb., 13:34, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:> On Feb 15, 2:49?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > snip > > > > > No atheist has said that the Bible does not exist? ?So in what way do > > > > you claim it exists? ?Does it exist the same way something on Bob's > > > > list of alleged gods exits? > > > > In other words, does the Bible have a physical existence, or is it > > > > like one of the names on Bob's list? > > > > The book exists. ?I have 6 different copies of it myself in two > > > languages, because my work requires it. ?No atheist has said or > > > implied that it did not exist. ?You told a very stupid lie. ?You are > > > now, in a display of your inanity, trying to drag out your moronic > > > performance. ?Thanks for making your belief look bad.- Hide quoted text - > > > Well, that is wonderful, Thomas. Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted February 16, 2007 Posted February 16, 2007 On Feb 15, 6:57�am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > On 15 Feb., 13:34, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:> On Feb 15, 2:49?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > snip > > > > > No atheist has said that the Bible does not exist? ?So in what way do > > > > you claim it exists? ?Does it exist the same way something on Bob's > > > > list of alleged gods exits? > > > > In other words, does the Bible have a physical existence, or is it > > > > like one of the names on Bob's list? > > > > The book exists. ?I have 6 different copies of it myself in two > > > languages, because my work requires it. ?No atheist has said or > > > implied that it did not exist. ?You told a very stupid lie. ?You are > > > now, in a display of your inanity, trying to drag out your moronic > > > performance. ?Thanks for making your belief look bad.- Hide quoted text - > > > Well, that is wonderful, Thomas. Quote
Guest panamfloyd@hotmail.com Posted February 16, 2007 Posted February 16, 2007 On Feb 15, 8:39 pm, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > On Feb 15, 6:46?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > > > > On 15 Feb., 13:22, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:> On Feb 15, 2:17?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > > On 15 Feb., 00:29, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Feb 13, 8:34?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > > snip > > > > > > Well, Bob, does the Bible exist or not? ?You say whether it exists. > > > > > Don't try to call me a liar just because I called your bluff. > > > > > You are a liar. ?You said that I and others claimed the Bible did not > > > > exist. ?Not only was that a lie, it was incredibly silly. ?You called > > > > nobody's bluff; you just told a silly lie.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > You are still claiming that the Bible does not exist. ? If I ask you > > > about Isaiah's account of the Assyrian invasion of Judea, you reply > > > with an inane question about fictional characters. ?So, the > > > conversation is over. ?You are claiming that the Bible does not exist. > > > Little Bobby is such a pathetic twit, but we should be nice to him; he > > does such good work for atheism. > > Your personal attacks show everyone who you work for. > Robert B. Winn Holy shit! Lookie what the cat dragged in. Bobby Winn. Still beating the same old worn out drum, Bobby? First Min, then Hammond, and now this . Is this "reunion weekend" for the old morons club? -Panama Floyd, Atlanta aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA! EAC Martian Commander Plonked by Kadaitcha Man Sept 06 "..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next." -Mark Twain Religious societies are less moral than secular ones: http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted February 16, 2007 Posted February 16, 2007 On Feb 15, 6:59�am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > On 15 Feb., 13:44, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 15, 2:52?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > On 15 Feb., 00:54, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:> On Feb 13, 11:48?pm, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > snip > > > > > > > I offered to send you a copy of the Bible. ?You have consistently > > > > > > maintained that the Bible does not exist. > > > > > > Poor little Bobby thinks that repeating inane lies accomplishes > > > > > something besides making him look like a fool.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > Well, let's get right to it. ?In what way do you acknowedge that the > > > > Bible exists? ?Bob has a list that he keeps posting. ?Does the Bible > > > > exist the same way something on Bob's list exists? > > > > And the twit continues to make a fool of himself. > > > So what is the cause of your reluctance to answer the question? Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted February 16, 2007 Posted February 16, 2007 On Feb 15, 7:01�am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > On 15 Feb., 13:46, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 15, 2:55?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > On 15 Feb., 03:59, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 14, 5:24?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > On Feb 14, 6:44 pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > > > > > > On 14 Feb 2007 15:16:18 -0800, in alt.atheism > > > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in > > > > > > <1171494978.705022.208...@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>: > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > >Well, that is a myth that atheists like to tell. ?Lincoln said on > > > > > > >several occasions that he believed the Bible. > > > > > > > Source with complete context please. > > > > > > You'll never get it, not anything genuine. > > > > > > Our religious kook might give you a forgery, as David Barton did in > > > > > his book. ?A forged quote of Lincoln is making its rounds in usenet at > > > > > this very moment. ?It recommends hunting down and hanging anyone > > > > > critical of the war effort. ?A pundit has already confessed that he is > > > > > the author of the quote. > > > > > > The fraud was perpetrated by one of the Moonie rags, either the Moonie > > > > > Times or that bag of internet lies called _Insight Magazine._ > > > > > Well, why don't you atheists just wait until after the resurrection > > > > and ask Abraham Lincoln in person if he believed the Bible? > > > > I see no reason to worry about it myself. > > > > The twit confirms Jjls' judgment. > > > I gave you an option that would resolve your questions about Abraham > > Lincoln. Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted February 16, 2007 Posted February 16, 2007 On Feb 15, 7:06�am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > On 15 Feb., 13:52, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 15, 4:35?am, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > > > rbwinn wrote: > > > > On Feb 13, 8:37?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > > > > Free Lunch wrote: > > > > > > On 13 Feb 2007 16:39:50 -0800, in alt.atheism > > > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in > > > > > > <1171413590.219240.10...@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>: > > > > > > >On Feb 12, 9:25 am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > > > >> On 12 Feb., 03:23, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > >> > On Feb 11, 4:10?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > ?Not even just one? > > > > > > > >> > > Damn, you'd think with all that omnipotence and ego, at least one god > > > > > > >> > > would make itself known. > > > > > > > >> > Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible? > > > > > > >> > Robert B. Winn > > > > > > > >> Why, don't you have any evidence to offer? > > > > > > > >All things that exist show that there is a God. > > > > > > [i must remember to add that 'little gem' to my list of > > > > > 'Religious propagator's backs to the wall cop-out's] > > > > > Well, Bob, you were willing to provide us with a list of evil > > > > spirits. ?Why don't you make a list for us of the things that do not > > > > show that there is a God? > > > > Robert B. Winn > > > > with pleasure > > > > [Preface] > > > > "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one > > > fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible > > > gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." > > > [stephen Roberts] > > > Well, there is really no such thing as an atheist. Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted February 16, 2007 Posted February 16, 2007 On Feb 15, 7:07�am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > On 15 Feb., 13:48, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 15, 2:59?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > On 15 Feb., 04:14, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:> On Feb 14, 4:47?pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > > > > > On 13 Feb 2007 22:45:13 -0800, in alt.atheism > > > > > "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote in > > > > > <1171435509.605186.82...@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>: > > > > snip > > > > > > >I have never said that the Bible does not exist. ?Why do you tell such > > > > > >incredibly silly lies? > > > > > > Because he's under the delusion that the Bible counts as evidence if we > > > > > admit that it exists.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > I do not think anything counts with you. ?So just continue to claim > > > > that the Bible does not exist. > > > > And Twit Bobby's 2'nd rate clown routine continues in the service of > > > atheism ?He is not much, but he works for nothing; so we should be > > > grateful > > > So, Thomas, are your six Bibles tangible, or are they imaginary? Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted February 16, 2007 Posted February 16, 2007 On Feb 15, 9:44�am, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > On Feb 15, 7:22 am, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 15, 2:17?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > On 15 Feb., 00:29, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 13, 8:34?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > > > > > Free Lunch wrote: > > > > > > On 13 Feb 2007 16:54:11 -0800, in alt.atheism > > > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in > > > > > > <1171414451.120125.63...@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>: > > > > > > >On Feb 13, 2:10 am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > snip > > > > > > > >I offered to send you a copy of the Bible. ?You have consistently > > > > > > >maintained that the Bible does not exist. > > > > > > > How many more times will you repeat that lie. > > > > > > He is lying for god - so it's Okay. > > > > > Well, Bob, does the Bible exist or not? ?You say whether it exists. > > > > Don't try to call me a liar just because I called your bluff. > > > > You are a liar. ?You said that I and others claimed the Bible did not > > > exist. ?Not only was that a lie, it was incredibly silly. ?You called > > > nobody's bluff; you just told a silly lie.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > You are still claiming that the Bible does not exist. Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted February 16, 2007 Posted February 16, 2007 On Feb 15, 11:56�am, Libertarius <Libertar...@nothingbutthe.truth> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Feb 14, 4:37?pm, Libertarius <Libertar...@nothingbutthe.truth> > > wrote: > > >>Why all this meaningless argument about "GOD"??? > > >>When will you guys DEFINE what you mean by that word, > >>BEFORE posting an argument pro or con? -- L. > > > Well, the discussion was about Jesus Christ. > > ===>Obviously you have no idea what you are talking about. > In fact "the discussion" was about "EVIDENCE OF GODS". > > Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted February 16, 2007 Posted February 16, 2007 On Feb 15, 4:59�pm, Don Kresch <ROT13.qxer...@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote: > In alt.atheism On 14 Feb 2007 22:30:36 -0800, "rbwinn" > <rbwi...@juno.com> let us all know that: > > > > > > >On Feb 14, 8:22?pm, Don Kresch <ROT13.qxer...@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote: > >> In alt.atheism On 14 Feb 2007 15:14:19 -0800, "rbwinn" > >> <rbwi...@juno.com> let us all know that: > > >> >On Feb 13, 6:05?pm, Don Kresch <ROT13.qxer...@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote: > >> >> In alt.atheism On 13 Feb 2007 16:59:35 -0800, "rbwinn" > >> >> <rbwi...@juno.com> let us all know that: > > >> >> >On Feb 13, 2:22 am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > >> >> >> On 13 Feb., 05:29, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > >> >> >> > On Feb 12, 9:13?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > >> >> >> > > rbwinn wrote: > >> >> >> > > > On Feb 12, 9:25?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > >> >> >> > > > > On 12 Feb., 03:23, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > >> >> >> > > > > > On Feb 11, 4:10?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > >> >> >> > > > > > > ?Not even just one? > > >> >> >> > > > > > > Damn, you'd think with all that omnipotence and ego, at least one god > >> >> >> > > > > > > would make itself known. > > >> >> >> > > > > > Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible? > >> >> >> > > > > > Robert B. Winn > > >> >> >> > > > > Why, don't you have any evidence to offer? > > >> >> >> > > > So you are maintaining that the Bible does not exist. ?Do you have > >> >> >> > > > anything to support your strange belief? > >> >> >> > > > Robert B. Winn > > >> >> >> > > Of course it exists, > >> >> >> > > so do Aesop's Fables and the Greek Myths- Hide quoted text - > > >> >> >> > > - Show quoted text - > > >> >> >> > Well, if the Bible exists, you should have no objection to reading > >> >> >> > it. (y don't I just send you a copy so that you can actually read > >> >> >> > it? > > >> >> >> I have read it in 4 different translations and in two different > >> >> >> languages. (ere is still no evidence that it is true. > > >> >> >How did you like the book of Isaiah? > > >> >> Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted February 16, 2007 Posted February 16, 2007 On Feb 15, 5:00�pm, Don Kresch <ROT13.qxer...@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote: > In alt.atheism On 14 Feb 2007 22:24:28 -0800, "rbwinn" > <rbwi...@juno.com> let us all know that: > > > > > > >On Feb 14, 8:19?pm, Don Kresch <ROT13.qxer...@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote: > >> In alt.atheism On 14 Feb 2007 15:25:25 -0800, "rbwinn" > >> <rbwi...@juno.com> let us all know that: > > >> >On Feb 13, 7:22?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > >> >> On Feb 13, 8:05 pm, Don Kresch <ROT13.qxer...@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote:> In alt.atheism On 13 Feb 2007 16:59:35 -0800, "rbwinn" > > >> >> ...] > > >> >> Did you notice that nowhere in the Old Testament is the messiah > >> >> predicted to be god? (e messiah is prophesied to bring peace, to > >> >> bring comfort to the wretched, to heal the earth; but nowhere in the > >> >> Old Testament does it say he will be worshiped as a god. > > >> >Isaiah 9:6 > > >> Quote
Guest Dan@V.A. Posted February 16, 2007 Posted February 16, 2007 "thomas p." <tonyofbexar@yahoo.dk> wrote in message news:1171530723.576685.224050@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... On 14 Feb., 20:00, "D...@V.A." <d...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote in message > > news:1171435012.693634.303310@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > On 13 Feb., 22:47, "D...@V.A." <d...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > > "Semper Lib Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted February 16, 2007 Posted February 16, 2007 On Feb 13, 5:39�am, bill.m.tho...@gmail.com wrote: > On Feb 13, 4:50 pm, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 12, 4:31?pm, Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th > > > <Klaz...@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote: > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote innews:1171292648.170953.150200@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com: > > > > > On Feb 11, 9:53?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > > >> rbwinn wrote: > > > >> > On Feb 11, 3:20?pm, "Bill M" <w...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > >> > > It is interesting to observe that there are thousands of different > > > >> > > God beliefs but NO OBJECTIVE VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE ANY of these Gods > > > >> > > actually exist. > > > > >> > > Quite the contrary, there is a wealth of positive objective > > > >> > > verifiable evidence that no Gods actually exist. > > > > >> > > Objective evidence indicates the Universe is greater than 20 > > > >> > > BILLION LIGHT YEARS in diameter. When you consider that light > > > >> > > travels at 186,000 MILES PER SECOND the Universe is > > > >> > > incomprehensible in size and by comparison, our World, is but a > > > >> > > speck of dust in this vast Universe. > > > > >> > > The scientific evidence is that our World is over 4 BILLION YEARS > > > >> > > old. Archaeological evidence is that man has existed on earth for > > > >> > > approximately 100,000 years. When the various books of the Bible > > > >> > > were written, most of mankind believed the world was flat and the > > > >> > > Sun, Stars and Planets revolved around the Earth. Many believed > > > >> > > that Christopher Columbus might sail to the edge of the earth, and > > > >> > > might fall off, during his trip that discovered the new continent. > > > > >> > The question I have for you, Bill, is in measuring all of these huge > > > >> > amounts oftime, do you considertimeto be relative or absolute? > > > >> > Robert B. Winn > > > > >> Backs up against the wall again are we?- Hide quoted text - > > > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > > > Your backs are always up against the wall. ?If you say absolutetime, > > > > then you agree with Isaac Newton's concept of the universe, which > > > > scientists say they have discredited. ?If you say relativetime, then > > > > a day can be a billion years. ?Which do you prefer? > > > > Robert B. Winn > > > > We will work withpropertime. Which is near enough to thetimeused with > > > respect to historical events. > > > > Klazmon.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > Well, scientists do not work withpropertime. Quote
Guest bob young Posted February 16, 2007 Posted February 16, 2007 rbwinn wrote: > On Feb 15, 4:35�am, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > rbwinn wrote: > > > On Feb 13, 8:37?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > > > Free Lunch wrote: > > > > > On 13 Feb 2007 16:39:50 -0800, in alt.atheism > > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in > > > > > <1171413590.219240.10...@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>: > > > > > >On Feb 12, 9:25 am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > > >> On 12 Feb., 03:23, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > >> > On Feb 11, 4:10?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > ?Not even just one? > > > > > > > >> > > Damn, you'd think with all that omnipotence and ego, at least one god > > > > > >> > > would make itself known. > > > > > > > >> > Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible? > > > > > >> > Robert B. Winn > > > > > > > >> Why, don't you have any evidence to offer? > > > > > > > >All things that exist show that there is a God. > > > > > > [i must remember to add that 'little gem' to my list of > > > > 'Religious propagator's backs to the wall cop-out's] > > > > > Well, Bob, you were willing to provide us with a list of evil > > > spirits. Quote
Guest bob young Posted February 16, 2007 Posted February 16, 2007 "thomas p." wrote: > On 15 Feb., 13:52, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > On Feb 15, 4:35?am, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > rbwinn wrote: > > > > On Feb 13, 8:37?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > > > > Free Lunch wrote: > > > > > > On 13 Feb 2007 16:39:50 -0800, in alt.atheism > > > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in > > > > > > <1171413590.219240.10...@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>: > > > > > > >On Feb 12, 9:25 am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > > > >> On 12 Feb., 03:23, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > >> > On Feb 11, 4:10?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > >> > > ?Not even just one? > > > > > > > > >> > > Damn, you'd think with all that omnipotence and ego, at least one god > > > > > > >> > > would make itself known. > > > > > > > > >> > Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible? > > > > > > >> > Robert B. Winn > > > > > > > > >> Why, don't you have any evidence to offer? > > > > > > > > >All things that exist show that there is a God. > > > > > > > [i must remember to add that 'little gem' to my list of > > > > > 'Religious propagator's backs to the wall cop-out's] > > > > > > Well, Bob, you were willing to provide us with a list of evil > > > > spirits. ?Why don't you make a list for us of the things that do not > > > > show that there is a God? > > > > Robert B. Winn > > > > > with pleasure > > > > > [Preface] > > > > > "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one > > > fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible > > > gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." > > > [stephen Roberts] > > > > Well, there is really no such thing as an atheist. All atheists will > > eventually confess that there is a God. > > Robert B. Winn > > How can atheists do anything if there really is no such thing as > atheists. Have you been drinking again? He thinks if there are no more atheists his god will suddenly appear, not realising of course that were 'it' to appear there would be no more atheists ! give it a try Robert Quote
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