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"Free Lunch" <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message

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>

> You really are a smug amoral ass, aren't you. Clearly, you have never

> read any of Jesus's teachings, or you would know that your behavior was

> condemned by Him.

>

Any evidence for that?

> I'm sure you enjoy worshipping yourself,

>

Would you mind telling us the evidence that makes you so "sure"?

> but while you

> do that, I have a life that is unencumbered by lies and false doctrines.

>

Which are those? Or do you want us to guess?

> Mock God if you like. It is your choice, I cannot stop you.

>

Which "God" are you talking about? Since you are a self-professed

atheists, you don't know any god, nor believe in any, ...apart from yourself

of course.

 

 

 

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"Free Lunch" <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message

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> On 15 Feb 2007 04:31:43 -0800, in alt.atheism

> "rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in

> <1171542703.680913.131700@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>:

>>

>>Well, Thomas, here we see the last refuge of the atheist, the personal

>>attack. We were discussing the Bible here in alt.bible. Now everyone

>>can see your purpose in intruding in our conversation. If you do not

>>want to talk about the Bible, why don't you go live the happy life of

>>an atheist?

>

> I'm in alt.atheism watching you tell your lies. Why are you posting your

> lies in alt.atheism.

>

Because a.a. is ABOUT atheism, not a refuge FOR atheists. Also, atheist

doctrine demands, that what we consider the truth, atheists MUST call lies

or face excommunication and confiscation of their number.

 

 

 

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Guest Pastor Frank
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"Free Lunch" <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message

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> On 15 Feb 2007 04:52:39 -0800, in alt.atheism

> "rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in

> <1171543959.023629.8540@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>:

>>On Feb 15, 4:35?am, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote:

>>> rbwinn wrote:

>>> > On Feb 13, 8:37?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote:

>>> > > Free Lunch wrote:

>>> > > > On 13 Feb 2007 16:39:50 -0800, in alt.atheism

>>> > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in

>>> > > > <1171413590.219240.10...@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>:

>>> > > > >On Feb 12, 9:25 am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

>>> > > > >> On 12 Feb., 03:23, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

>>>

>>> > > > >> > On Feb 11, 4:10?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>>>

>>> > > > >> > > ?Not even just one?

>>>

>>> > > > >> > > Damn, you'd think with all that omnipotence and ego, at

>>> > > > >> > > least one god

>>> > > > >> > > would make itself known.

>>>

>>> > > > >> > Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible?

>>> > > > >> > Robert B. Winn

>>>

>>> > > > >> Why, don't you have any evidence to offer?

>>>

>>> > > > >All things that exist show that there is a God.

>>>

>>> > > [i must remember to add that 'little gem' to my list of

>>> > > 'Religious propagator's backs to the wall cop-out's]

>>>

>>> > Well, Bob, you were willing to provide us with a list of evil

>>> > spirits. �hy don't you make a list for us of the things that do not

>>> > show that there is a God?

>>> > Robert B. Winn

>>>

>>> with pleasure

>>>

>>> [Preface]

>>>

>>> "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one

>>> fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other

>>> possible

>>> gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."

>>> [stephen Roberts]

>>

>>Well, there is really no such thing as an atheist. All atheists will

>>eventually confess that there is a God.

>

> Another smug little self-righteous lie from the man who rejects Jesus's

> teachings about hypocricy.

>

Quote Jesus on that, or admit you are lying for atheism.

 

 

 

 

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Posted

On Feb 13, 5:33�pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:

> On 13 Feb 2007 05:38:27 -0800, in alt.atheism

> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in

> <1171373907.594626.129...@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:

>

>

>

> >On Feb 12, 9:37?pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:

> >> On 12 Feb 2007 20:18:06 -0800, in alt.atheism

> >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in

> >> <1171340286.558817.256...@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>:

>

> >> >On Feb 12, 8:58?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote:

> >> >> Bill M wrote:

> >> >> > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message

> >> >> >news:1171308517.634196.297340@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

> >> >> > On Feb 12, 9:30?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

> >> >> > > On 12 Feb., 04:32, "Semper Libr" <nopolicesta...@freedom4all.org>

> >> >> > > wrote:

>

> >> >> > > > "Bill M" <w...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message

>

> >> >> > > >news:XzMzh.4236$6a.3198@bignews4.bellsouth.net...

>

> >> >> > > > > It is interesting to observe that there are thousands of different God

> >> >> > > > > beliefs but NO OBJECTIVE VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE ANY of these Gods

> >> >> > > > > actually

> >> >> > > > > exist.

>

> >> >> > > > What do you call resurrection?

>

> >> >> > > I would call it a story. Why, do you have any evidence that it is

> >> >> > > more than that?

>

> >> >> > > > Then there's this.... and a lot more....

>

> >> >> > > > The Anthropic Principle

>

> >> >> > > Are people still talking about that bit of silliness. Pathetic!

>

> >> >> > Jesus Christ was resurrected.

> >> >> > Robert B. Winn

>

> >> >> > A totally unsubstantiated claim! Mythical stories form the ancient past are

> >> >> > just that - myths and fables!

>

> >> >> Yup - He rose again and ascended to heaven to sit by god the Father........

> >> >> whatever........

>

> >> >> [Heaven back then was just above the clouds where we now fly commercial

> >> >> aircraft !]

>

> >> >> Yet humans in the year 2007 still swallow this silly nonsense. (y?

> >> >> Because another human [very often their mother] told them to.

>

> >> >> Who wants to call their parents liars and deceivers?- Hide quoted text -

>

> >> >> - Show quoted text -

>

> >> >Well, the problem with your version is that it is just not

> >> >believable.

>

> ccording to you all a person has to do to succeed is to

>

>

>

>

>

> >> >find fault with Jesus Christ.

Posted

On Feb 13, 5:48?pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:

> On 13 Feb 2007 16:39:50 -0800, in alt.atheism

> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in

> <1171413590.219240.10...@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>:

>

>

>

>

>

> >On Feb 12, 9:25 am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

> >> On 12 Feb., 03:23, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

>

> >> > On Feb 11, 4:10?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>

> >> > > ?Not even just one?

>

> >> > > Damn, you'd think with all that omnipotence and ego, at least one god

> >> > > would make itself known.

>

> >> > Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible?

> >> > Robert B. Winn

>

> >> Why, don't you have any evidence to offer?

>

> >All things that exist show that there is a God.

>

> So you assert without any kind of support at all.

>

> >So why is it that you

> >do not want to read the Bible?

>

> I've read it.- Hide quoted text -

>

> - Show quoted text -

 

What did you think of the book of Isaiah?

Robert B. Winn

Posted

On Feb 13, 5:57�pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:

> On 13 Feb 2007 16:54:11 -0800, in alt.atheism

> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in

> <1171414451.120125.63...@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>:

>

>

>

>

>

> >On Feb 13, 2:10 am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

> >> On 13 Feb., 05:09, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

>

> >> > On Feb 12, 8:51?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote:

>

> >> > > rbwinn wrote:

> >> > > > On Feb 11, 9:50?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote:

> >> > > > > rbwinn wrote:

> >> > > > > > On Feb 11, 4:10?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> >> > > > > > > ?Not even just one?

>

> >> > > > > > > Damn, you'd think with all that omnipotence and ego, at least one god

> >> > > > > > > would make itself known.

>

> >> > > > > > Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible?

> >> > > > > > Robert B. Winn

>

> >> > > > > Where WOULD yuo people be without your old book of fables and myths.

>

> >> > > > > Does it never filter through to your brains and past your eye blinkers

> >> > > > > [blinders] that is exactly what they are?

>

> >> > > > > Here's a few other man inspired and produced books:

>

> >> > > > We were discussing the Bible. ?Why did you want to change the

> >> > > > subject? ?Now the Bible says, For God so loved the world that he sent

> >> > > > his only Begotten Son.

> >> > > > Jesus Christ said that he was the Son of God.

> >> > > > Why are you saying that God did not make himself known?

> >> > > > Robert B. Winn

>

> >> > > Because these were simply mythical stories written by near primitives who were

> >> > > bored to tears every night with no radio or TV - all they listened to were

> >> > > yarns around the evening camp fire told by wandering preachers.

>

> >> > > The more 'miraculous' his stories were the more free food he got and no doubt,

> >> > > an extra drop of wine as well.

>

> >> > > Nothing changes does it - now the 'story tellers' ?have personal jets and fly

> >> > > around the world presenting 'rigged' miracles to packed audiences of

> >> > > thousands.....

>

> >> > > Bob

> >> > > Humanist Brit.

>

> >> > > If priests had not been fond of mutton, lambs never would have been sacrified

> >> > > to god. Nothing was ever carried to the temple that the priest could not use,

> >> > > and it always happened that god wanted what his agents liked."

> >> > > [Robert G. Ingersoll]

>

> >> > > As the caterpiller chooses the fairest leaves to lay her eggs on, so the

> >> > > priest lays his curse on the fairest joys.

> >> > > [William Blake]- Hide quoted text -

>

> >> > > - Show quoted text -

>

> >> > Well, of course, you are welcome to your own opinion.

Posted

On Feb 13, 11:43�pm, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

> On 14 Feb., 01:39, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

>

>

>

>

>

> > On Feb 12, 9:25 am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

>

> > > On 12 Feb., 03:23, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

>

> > > > On Feb 11, 4:10?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>

> > > > > ?Not even just one?

>

> > > > > Damn, you'd think with all that omnipotence and ego, at least one god

> > > > > would make itself known.

>

> > > > Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible?

> > > > Robert B. Winn

>

> > > Why, don't you have any evidence to offer?

>

> > All things that exist show that there is a God.

Posted

On Feb 15, 8:43�pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote:

> rbwinn wrote:

> > On Feb 15, 7:06�am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

> > > On 15 Feb., 13:52, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

>

> > > > On Feb 15, 4:35?am, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote:

>

> > > > > rbwinn wrote:

> > > > > > On Feb 13, 8:37?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > Free Lunch wrote:

> > > > > > > > On 13 Feb 2007 16:39:50 -0800, in alt.atheism

> > > > > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in

> > > > > > > > <1171413590.219240.10...@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>:

> > > > > > > > >On Feb 12, 9:25 am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >> On 12 Feb., 03:23, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

>

> > > > > > > > >> > On Feb 11, 4:10?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>

> > > > > > > > >> > > ?Not even just one?

>

> > > > > > > > >> > > Damn, you'd think with all that omnipotence and ego, at least one god

> > > > > > > > >> > > would make itself known.

>

> > > > > > > > >> > Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible?

> > > > > > > > >> > Robert B. Winn

>

> > > > > > > > >> Why, don't you have any evidence to offer?

>

> > > > > > > > >All things that exist show that there is a God.

>

> > > > > > > [i must remember to add that 'little gem' to my list of

> > > > > > > 'Religious propagator's backs to the wall cop-out's]

>

> > > > > > Well, Bob, you were willing to provide us with a list of evil

> > > > > > spirits. ?Why don't you make a list for us of the things that do not

> > > > > > show that there is a God?

> > > > > > Robert B. Winn

>

> > > > > with pleasure

>

> > > > > [Preface]

>

> > > > > "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one

> > > > > fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible

> > > > > gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."

> > > > > [stephen Roberts]

>

> > > > Well, there is really no such thing as an atheist.

Posted

On Feb 15, 10:10�pm, Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th

<Klaz...@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote:

> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote innews:1171595862.995986.181460@l53g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

>

>

>

>

>

> > On Feb 13, 5:39?am, bill.m.tho...@gmail.com wrote:

> >> On Feb 13, 4:50 pm, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

>

> >> > On Feb 12, 4:31?pm, Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th

>

> >> > <Klaz...@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote:

> >> > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote

> >> > > innews:1171292648.170953.150200@j27

> > g2000cwj.googlegroups.com:

>

> >> > > > On Feb 11, 9:53?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote:

> >> > > >> rbwinn wrote:

> >> > > >> > On Feb 11, 3:20?pm, "Bill M" <w...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> >> > > >> > > It is interesting to observe that there are thousands of

> >> > > >> > > diffe

> > rent

> >> > > >> > > God beliefs but NO OBJECTIVE VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE ANY of

> >> > > >> > > these

> > Gods

> >> > > >> > > actually exist.

>

> >> > > >> > > Quite the contrary, there is a wealth of positive objective

> >> > > >> > > verifiable evidence that no Gods actually exist.

>

> >> > > >> > > Objective evidence indicates the Universe is greater than 20

> >> > > >> > > BILLION LIGHT YEARS in diameter. When you consider that

> >> > > >> > > light travels at 186,000 MILES PER SECOND the Universe is

> >> > > >> > > incomprehensible in size and by comparison, our World, is

> >> > > >> > > but a speck of dust in this vast Universe.

>

> >> > > >> > > The scientific evidence is that our World is over 4 BILLION

> >> > > >> > > YE

> > ARS

> >> > > >> > > old. Archaeological evidence is that man has existed on

> >> > > >> > > earth

> > for

> >> > > >> > > approximately 100,000 years. When the various books of the

> >> > > >> > > Bib

> > le

> >> > > >> > > were written, most of mankind believed the world was flat

> >> > > >> > > and

> > the

> >> > > >> > > Sun, Stars and Planets revolved around the Earth. Many

> >> > > >> > > believed that Christopher Columbus might sail to the edge of

> >> > > >> > > the earth,

> >

Posted

On Feb 16, 4:25�am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

> On 16 Feb., 02:54, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

>

>

>

>

>

> > On Feb 15, 6:59?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

>

> > > On 15 Feb., 13:44, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

>

> > > > On Feb 15, 2:52?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

>

> > > > > On 15 Feb., 00:54, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:> On Feb 13, 11:48?pm, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

>

> > > > > snip

>

> > > > > > > > I offered to send you a copy of the Bible. ?You have consistently

> > > > > > > > maintained that the Bible does not exist.

>

> > > > > > > Poor little Bobby thinks that repeating inane lies accomplishes

> > > > > > > something besides making him look like a fool.- Hide quoted text -

>

> > > > > > > - Show quoted text -

>

> > > > > > Well, let's get right to it. ?In what way do you acknowedge that the

> > > > > > Bible exists? ?Bob has a list that he keeps posting. ?Does the Bible

> > > > > > exist the same way something on Bob's list exists?

>

> > > > > And the twit continues to make a fool of himself.

>

> > > > So what is the cause of your reluctance to answer the question? ?

>

> > > Bob

>

> > > > has a list of evil spirits that he claims exist in the world. ?Does

> > > > the Bible have an existence like something on Bob's list or is the

> > > > Bible tangible?

> > > > Maybe the question is too difficult for you.

> > > > More likely, you have received enough atheistic education to see the

> > > > difficulty that the Bible presents for atheism, so you continue to say

> > > > that the Bible does not exist.

> > > > You say you have six Bibles. ?What is that supposed to mean? ?Do you

> > > > have six books that can be read, or do you have six imaginary books?

>

> > > That's better boobie, more like your babbling self. ?I knew you could

> > > do it.- Hide quoted text -

>

> > > - Show quoted text -

>

> > Well, let's study Isaiah some more, then.

> > Isaiah 1:3

Posted

On Feb 16, 4:55�am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

> On 16 Feb., 03:00, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

>

>

>

>

>

> > On Feb 15, 7:06?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

>

> > > On 15 Feb., 13:52, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

>

> > > > On Feb 15, 4:35?am, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote:

>

> > > > > rbwinn wrote:

> > > > > > On Feb 13, 8:37?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > Free Lunch wrote:

> > > > > > > > On 13 Feb 2007 16:39:50 -0800, in alt.atheism

> > > > > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in

> > > > > > > > <1171413590.219240.10...@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>:

> > > > > > > > >On Feb 12, 9:25 am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >> On 12 Feb., 03:23, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

>

> > > > > > > > >> > On Feb 11, 4:10?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>

> > > > > > > > >> > > ?Not even just one?

>

> > > > > > > > >> > > Damn, you'd think with all that omnipotence and ego, at least one god

> > > > > > > > >> > > would make itself known.

>

> > > > > > > > >> > Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible?

> > > > > > > > >> > Robert B. Winn

>

> > > > > > > > >> Why, don't you have any evidence to offer?

>

> > > > > > > > >All things that exist show that there is a God.

>

> > > > > > > [i must remember to add that 'little gem' to my list of

> > > > > > > 'Religious propagator's backs to the wall cop-out's]

>

> > > > > > Well, Bob, you were willing to provide us with a list of evil

> > > > > > spirits. ?Why don't you make a list for us of the things that do not

> > > > > > show that there is a God?

> > > > > > Robert B. Winn

>

> > > > > with pleasure

>

> > > > > [Preface]

>

> > > > > "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one

> > > > > fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible

> > > > > gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."

> > > > > [stephen Roberts]

>

> > > > Well, there is really no such thing as an atheist. ?All atheists will

> > > > eventually confess that there is a God.

> > > > Robert B. Winn

>

> > > How can atheists do anything if there really is no such thing as

> > > atheists. ?Have you been drinking again?- Hide quoted text -

>

> > > - Show quoted text -

>

> > I have been reading Isaiah.

> > Isaiah 1:5

Posted

On Feb 16, 5:01�am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

> On 16 Feb., 03:04, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:> On Feb 15, 7:07?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

>

> snip

>

> > > > So, Thomas, are your six Bibles tangible, or are they imaginary? ?Did

> > > > you just make them up?

> > > > Robert B. Winn-

>

> > > Thank you boobie.- Hide quoted text -

>

> > You are welcome, atheist.

Posted

On Feb 16, 5:02�am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

> On 16 Feb., 03:23, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

>

>

>

>

>

> > On Feb 15, 4:59?pm, Don Kresch <ROT13.qxer...@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote:

>

> > > In alt.atheism On 14 Feb 2007 22:30:36 -0800, "rbwinn"

> > > <rbwi...@juno.com> let us all know that:

>

> > > >On Feb 14, 8:22?pm, Don Kresch <ROT13.qxer...@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote:

> > > >> In alt.atheism On 14 Feb 2007 15:14:19 -0800, "rbwinn"

> > > >> <rbwi...@juno.com> let us all know that:

>

> > > >> >On Feb 13, 6:05?pm, Don Kresch <ROT13.qxer...@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote:

> > > >> >> In alt.atheism On 13 Feb 2007 16:59:35 -0800, "rbwinn"

> > > >> >> <rbwi...@juno.com> let us all know that:

>

> > > >> >> >On Feb 13, 2:22 am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

> > > >> >> >> On 13 Feb., 05:29, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

>

> > > >> >> >> > On Feb 12, 9:13?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote:

>

> > > >> >> >> > > rbwinn wrote:

> > > >> >> >> > > > On Feb 12, 9:25?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

> > > >> >> >> > > > > On 12 Feb., 03:23, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

>

> > > >> >> >> > > > > > On Feb 11, 4:10?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>

> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > ?Not even just one?

>

> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > Damn, you'd think with all that omnipotence and ego, at least one god

> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > would make itself known.

>

> > > >> >> >> > > > > > Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible?

> > > >> >> >> > > > > > Robert B. Winn

>

> > > >> >> >> > > > > Why, don't you have any evidence to offer?

>

> > > >> >> >> > > > So you are maintaining that the Bible does not exist. ?Do you have

> > > >> >> >> > > > anything to support your strange belief?

> > > >> >> >> > > > Robert B. Winn

>

> > > >> >> >> > > Of course it exists,

> > > >> >> >> > > so do Aesop's Fables and the Greek Myths- Hide quoted text -

>

> > > >> >> >> > > - Show quoted text -

>

> > > >> >> >> > Well, if the Bible exists, you should have no objection to reading

> > > >> >> >> > it. (y don't I just send you a copy so that you can actually read

> > > >> >> >> > it?

>

> > > >> >> >> I have read it in 4 different translations and in two different

> > > >> >> >> languages. (ere is still no evidence that it is true.

>

> > > >> >> >How did you like the book of Isaiah?

>

> > > >> >> ? What about it? And please don't say "VIRGIN

> > > >> >> BIRTH!!!111oneoneoneeleven" It's just not in there. Properly

> > > >> >> translated, Is 7:14 reads "look, a young woman has conceived and shall

> > > >> >> give birth", which she does in Is 8:3. The child is then praised as

> > > >> >> the prince of peace and wonderful counselor (Is 9:6).

>

> > > >> >> ? But, you go right on believing that it's about jesus--believe

> > > >> >> it in the face of the textual evidence to the contrary.

>

> > > >> >Well, actually I was going to discuss the Assyrian invasion of Judea.

>

> > > >> ? ? Which is what Is 7-9 is about, and NOT jesus.

>

> > > >Wrong. ?Chapter 7 is about the invasion of Judea by Israel and Syria,

> > > >which was completely unsuccessful.

>

> > > ? ? ? ? Sorry about that. Had my Syrians and Assyrians mixed-up.

>

> > > Don

> > > ---

>

> > Well, actually, it was God who put them there.

Posted

On Feb 16, 5:52�am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

> On 16 Feb., 13:17, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:> On Feb 13, 6:31?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

>

> > > On 13 Feb., 14:03, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

>

> > > > On Feb 12, 9:21?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote:

>

> snip

>

> > > What we do not have is any evidence of any miracle.- Hide quoted text -

>

> > > - Show quoted text -

>

> > Well, if you had been one of the people in Jerusalem at thattime, you

> > might have seen it a little differently.

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Posted

On 16 Feb 2007 16:54:10 -0800, in alt.atheism

"rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in

<1171673650.738689.54730@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:

>On Feb 13, 5:57?pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:

>> On 13 Feb 2007 16:54:11 -0800, in alt.atheism

>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in

>> <1171414451.120125.63...@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>:

 

....

>> >I offered to send you a copy of the Bible. �ou have consistently

>> >maintained that the Bible does not exist.

>>

>> How many more times will you repeat that lie.- Hide quoted text -

>>

>You atheists all play the same game. If you want to claim the Bible

>does not exist go ahead and say it does not exist.

>Robert B. Winn

 

Once again you lie.

 

You know that none of us have ever claimed that the Bible does not

exist. You insist on this false witness because you cannot be honest and

admit that the Bible is not in itself evidence of anything. It is just

one of many religious texts that is held in high regard by one religion

or another. There is no evidence that the Bible is any more true than

the Q'ran or any other religious text.

 

We all know the Bible exists. What we won't buy is your false claim that

there is something special about it.

 

Stop your lies.

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Posted

On 16 Feb 2007 16:51:38 -0800, in alt.atheism

"rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in

<1171673498.005537.154490@l53g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:

>On Feb 13, 5:48?pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:

>> On 13 Feb 2007 16:39:50 -0800, in alt.atheism

>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in

>> <1171413590.219240.10...@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>:

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> >On Feb 12, 9:25 am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

>> >> On 12 Feb., 03:23, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

>>

>> >> > On Feb 11, 4:10?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>>

>> >> > > ?Not even just one?

>>

>> >> > > Damn, you'd think with all that omnipotence and ego, at least one god

>> >> > > would make itself known.

>>

>> >> > Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible?

>> >> > Robert B. Winn

>>

>> >> Why, don't you have any evidence to offer?

>>

>> >All things that exist show that there is a God.

>>

>> So you assert without any kind of support at all.

>>

>> >So why is it that you

>> >do not want to read the Bible?

>>

>> I've read it.- Hide quoted text -

>>

>> - Show quoted text -

>

>What did you think of the book of Isaiah?

 

Not much. I do know that many Christians insist that there are many

claims about Jesus in Isaiah, even though the clear text tells us no

such thing. Isaiah was not a prophecy of Jesus and there is no evidence

that it was.

 

The saddest part is that these people who are obsessed with the supposed

prophecies of Isaiah refuse to admit that the most important piece, the

name of the supposed Messiah, was wrong. Why should I argue with people

who lie to themselves?

Posted

On Feb 16, 5:59�am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

> On 16 Feb., 13:27, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

>

>

>

>

>

> > On Feb 13, 6:33?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

>

> > > On 13 Feb., 14:06, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

>

> > > > On Feb 12, 9:26?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote:

>

> > > > > rbwinn wrote:

> > > > > > On Feb 12, 4:30?pm, Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th

> > > > > > <Klaz...@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote:

> > > > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote innews:1171293929.513174.145260@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com:

>

> > > > > > > > On Feb 12, 4:20?am, bill.m.tho...@gmail.com wrote:

> > > > > > > >> On Feb 12, 4:32 pm, "Semper Lib?quot; <nopolicesta...@freedom4all.org>

> > > > > > > >> wrote:

>

> > > > > > > >> > "Bill M" <w...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message

>

> > > > > > > >> >news:XzMzh.4236$6a.3198@bignews4.bellsouth.net...

>

> > > > > > > >> > > It is interesting to observe that there are thousands of different

> > > > > > > >> > > God beliefs but NO OBJECTIVE VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE ANY of these Gods

> > > > > > > >> > > actual

> > > > > > > > ly

> > > > > > > >> > > exist.

>

> > > > > > > >> > What do you call resurrection?

>

> > > > > > > >> An unsubstantiated claim in books written by unknown authors at least

> > > > > > > >> forty years (being generous here) ?after the alleged events. One of

> > > > > > > >> those authors the writer of the gospel attributed to Luke by Irenaeus

> > > > > > > >> in the later half of the second century, makes it clear in the first

> > > > > > > >> few lines that he is just repeating hearsay. Without corroboration by

> > > > > > > >> contemporary Roman records the other authors are also dismissed as

> > > > > > > >> writing hearsay. Especially considering the late date that these were

> > > > > > > >> written (well after the Jewish revolt).

>

> > > > > > > >> > Then there's this.... and a lot more....

>

> > > > > > > >> > The Anthropic Principle

>

> > > > > > > >> <SNIP nonsense about anthropic principle>

>

> > > > > > > >> Dead on arrival. "The puddle marveled that the hole it was in was a

> > > > > > > >> perfect fit".

>

> > > > > > > >> Bill

>

> > > > > > > > Well, since you do not accept any of the New Testament as being valid,

> > > > > > > > let's talk about the book of Isaiah in the Old Testament. ?Does the

> > > > > > > > Book of Isaiah exist, or was it something you say was written as

> > > > > > > > fiction in the second century also?

> > > > > > > > Robert B. Winn

>

> > > > > > > All of those books exist just as the books titled Harry Potter exist. That

> > > > > > > doesn't mean that the contents are unquestionable.

>

> > > > > > > Klazmon.- Hide quoted text -

>

> > > > > > > - Show quoted text -

>

> > > > > > Well, there is a woman who claims she wrote all of the Harry Potter

> > > > > > books. ?Now you say that all of the books of the Bible exist. ?Did

> > > > > > they just materialize, or were they written also?

> > > > > > Robert B. Winn

>

> > > > > They were ancient stories 'messed with' years after the said Jesus was supposed to have walked this

> > > > > earth before floating skywards, by priests, king's copywriters in fact anyone who badly needed a

> > > > > book that would 'impress' the people of thetimeand have them 'toe the line'.

>

> > > > > Sadly it still does.- Hide quoted text -

>

> > > > > - Show quoted text -

>

> > > > Well, according to the scrolls of Isaiah and other Old Testament

> > > > scrolls found at Qumran, what we have today is word for word what the

> > > > people who buried those scrolls had. ?How do you explain that?

> > > > Those people were Essenes, a Jewish sect.

>

> > > What is there to explain? ?The books were written by somebody. ?So

> > > what?- Hide quoted text -

>

> > > - Show quoted text -

>

> > Well, here is a Scripture from Isaiah for you to explain.

> > Isaiah 1:12

Posted

On Feb 16, 6:36�am, Don Kresch <ROT13.qxer...@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote:

> In alt.atheism On 15 Feb 2007 18:35:15 -0800, "rbwinn"

> <rbwi...@juno.com> let us all know that:

>

>

>

>

>

> >On Feb 15, 5:00?pm, Don Kresch <ROT13.qxer...@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote:

> >> In alt.atheism On 14 Feb 2007 22:24:28 -0800, "rbwinn"

> >> <rbwi...@juno.com> let us all know that:

>

> >> >On Feb 14, 8:19?pm, Don Kresch <ROT13.qxer...@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote:

> >> >> In alt.atheism On 14 Feb 2007 15:25:25 -0800, "rbwinn"

> >> >> <rbwi...@juno.com> let us all know that:

>

> >> >> >On Feb 13, 7:22?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> >> >> >> On Feb 13, 8:05 pm, Don Kresch <ROT13.qxer...@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote:> In alt.atheism On 13 Feb 2007 16:59:35 -0800, "rbwinn"

>

> >> >> >> ...]

>

> >> >> >> Did you notice that nowhere in the Old Testament is the messiah

> >> >> >> predicted to be god? (e messiah is prophesied to bring peace, to

> >> >> >> bring comfort to the wretched, to heal the earth; but nowhere in the

> >> >> >> Old Testament does it say he will be worshiped as a god.

>

> >> >> >Isaiah 9:6

>

> >> >>

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Posted

On 16 Feb 2007 17:53:22 -0800, in alt.atheism

"rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in

<1171677202.265303.67310@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>:

>On Feb 16, 5:52?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

>> On 16 Feb., 13:17, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:> On Feb 13, 6:31?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

>>

>> > > On 13 Feb., 14:03, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

>>

>> > > > On Feb 12, 9:21?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote:

>>

>> snip

>>

>> > > What we do not have is any evidence of any miracle.- Hide quoted text -

>>

>> > > - Show quoted text -

>>

>> > Well, if you had been one of the people in Jerusalem at thattime, you

>> > might have seen it a little differently. t did not seem like a

>> > miracle to Sennacherrib after he arrived home in Ninevah safe and

>> > sound, but when it happened, he was not so sure.

>> > Robert B. Winn- Skjul tekst i anf?stegn -

>>

>> Sorry boobie but your fantasies about what happened or what people

>> thought back then are not evidence.

>

>Well, why don't we go right to what Isaiah wrote, Thomas?

>Isaiah 1:20 But if ye refuse and rebel, ye shall be devoured with the

>sword, for the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it.

 

And you arrogantly think that you are the one to interpret it and apply

it here.

Posted

On Feb 16, 7:17�am, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> On Feb 15, 8:50 pm, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

>

>

>

>

>

> > On Feb 15, 6:57?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

>

> > > On 15 Feb., 13:34, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:> On Feb 15, 2:49?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

>

> > > snip

>

> > > > > > No atheist has said that the Bible does not exist? ?So in what way do

> > > > > > you claim it exists? ?Does it exist the same way something on Bob's

> > > > > > list of alleged gods exits?

> > > > > > In other words, does the Bible have a physical existence, or is it

> > > > > > like one of the names on Bob's list?

>

> > > > > The book exists. ?I have 6 different copies of it myself in two

> > > > > languages, because my work requires it. ?No atheist has said or

> > > > > implied that it did not exist. ?You told a very stupid lie. ?You are

> > > > > now, in a display of your inanity, trying to drag out your moronic

> > > > > performance. ?Thanks for making your belief look bad.- Hide quoted text -

>

> > > > Well, that is wonderful, Thomas. ?Why don't you read something from

> > > > your six Bibles sometimeinstead of reading the garbage that other

> > > > atheists write about it?

>

> > > Boobie you don't know what I read. ? Keep up the good work though. ?We

> > > are all grateful to you.

>

> > If you hang around me, you are going to read Isaiah.

> > Isaiah 1:2

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Posted

On 16 Feb 2007 18:05:23 -0800, in alt.atheism

"rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in

<1171677923.489942.247450@t69g2000cwt.googlegroups.com>:

>On Feb 16, 6:36?am, Don Kresch <ROT13.qxer...@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote:

>> In alt.atheism On 15 Feb 2007 18:35:15 -0800, "rbwinn"

>> <rbwi...@juno.com> let us all know that:

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> >On Feb 15, 5:00?pm, Don Kresch <ROT13.qxer...@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote:

>> >> In alt.atheism On 14 Feb 2007 22:24:28 -0800, "rbwinn"

>> >> <rbwi...@juno.com> let us all know that:

>>

>> >> >On Feb 14, 8:19?pm, Don Kresch <ROT13.qxer...@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote:

>> >> >> In alt.atheism On 14 Feb 2007 15:25:25 -0800, "rbwinn"

>> >> >> <rbwi...@juno.com> let us all know that:

>>

>> >> >> >On Feb 13, 7:22?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>> >> >> >> On Feb 13, 8:05 pm, Don Kresch <ROT13.qxer...@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote:> In alt.atheism On 13 Feb 2007 16:59:35 -0800, "rbwinn"

>>

>> >> >> >> ...]

>>

>> >> >> >> Did you notice that nowhere in the Old Testament is the messiah

>> >> >> >> predicted to be god? (e messiah is prophesied to bring peace, to

>> >> >> >> bring comfort to the wretched, to heal the earth; but nowhere in the

>> >> >> >> Old Testament does it say he will be worshiped as a god.

>>

>> >> >> >Isaiah 9:6

>>

>> >> >> See Is 8:3. That is the child spoken of in Is 9:6.

>>

>> >> >No, sorry.

>>

>> >> Sorry, but it's true. Only if one takes Is 9:6 completely out

>> >> of context can it be applied to jesus. Will you admit to taking Is 9:6

>> >> completely out of context?

>>

>> >> Don

>>

>> >Well, let's work over to it, Don.

>>

>> No, there's no working over to it. The fact is that the child

>> born in Is 8:3 fills the prophecy from Is 7:14 and is being lauded

>> from Is 8:5 on, continuing through Is 9.

>>

>> Interesting note: if you read Is 9:1-2 and then find Matt

>> 4:12-16, you'll see how the former verses were concatenated to invent

>> a prophecy that doesn't actually exist.

>>

>> Don

>> ---

>> aa #51, Knight of BAAWA, DNRC o-, Member of the [H]orde

>> Atheist Minister for St. Dogbert.

>>

>> "No being is so important that he can usurp the rights of another"

>> Picard to Data/Graves "The Schizoid Man"- Hide quoted text -

>>

>> - Show quoted text -

>

>Well, if you think something was concatenated, Don, why don't you take

>an opportunity to discuss your concerns with Jesus Christ when he

>returns to judge the earth?

 

Honest people would just say "I guess you are right."

Guest bob young
Posted

jls wrote:

> On Feb 15, 8:50 pm, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

> > On Feb 15, 6:57?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > On 15 Feb., 13:34, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:> On Feb 15, 2:49?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

> >

> > > snip

> >

> > > > > > No atheist has said that the Bible does not exist? ?So in what way do

> > > > > > you claim it exists? ?Does it exist the same way something on Bob's

> > > > > > list of alleged gods exits?

> > > > > > In other words, does the Bible have a physical existence, or is it

> > > > > > like one of the names on Bob's list?

> >

> > > > > The book exists. ?I have 6 different copies of it myself in two

> > > > > languages, because my work requires it. ?No atheist has said or

> > > > > implied that it did not exist. ?You told a very stupid lie. ?You are

> > > > > now, in a display of your inanity, trying to drag out your moronic

> > > > > performance. ?Thanks for making your belief look bad.- Hide quoted text -

> >

> > > > Well, that is wonderful, Thomas. ?Why don't you read something from

> > > > your six Bibles some time instead of reading the garbage that other

> > > > atheists write about it?

> >

> > > Boobie you don't know what I read. ? Keep up the good work though. ?We

> > > are all grateful to you.

> >

> > If you hang around me, you are going to read Isaiah.

> > Isaiah 1:2 Hear O heavens, and give ear, O earth: for the Lord hath

> > spoken, I have nourished and brought up children, and they have

> > rebelled against me.

> > Do you like Isaiah, atheist?

> > Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text -

> >

> > - Show quoted text -

>

> I love it. Nice poetry, great fiction.

> Here's a favorite verse from this atheist:

> "They shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be

> weary; and they shall walk, and not faint."

>

> Prescient, isn't it? Somebody accidentally foresaw our Piper Cubs

> and Cessna Aerobats.

>

> Have you considered converting heathens to xianity by the edge of the

> sword, like the Pilgrims with Indians? With your natural hostility it

> seems the logical evolution of your evangelical yearnings.

 

Yep 'n talking of poetry this one is pretty pertinent:

 

Man of old, the savage,

formed the belief,

the eruption of the volcano

was god's expression of grief.

 

Man believed the lightning bolt,

for the crops - a blessing of rain,

the curse of flood lending starvation,

was spewed from heavenly gates.

 

Man believed he could calm divine wrath,

through sacrifice of a virgin pure,

though blood appeased him not,

how the quake continues to tremble the earth.

 

Man believed the sting of a bee,

the fangs of the serpent, the teeth of a bear

were all signs of divine things,

deities by the dozens, some invented in pairs.

 

Silly superstitions thrive to this day,

if not for the rationalist, skeptic,

and freethinker,

where would we be?

 

In Church thumping Bibles, that's where!

See, we've came a long way.

Instead of cracking virgins' skulls,

 

[with acknowledgements to: Sharon]

Guest bob young
Posted

rbwinn wrote:

> On Feb 16, 7:17�am, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> > On Feb 15, 8:50 pm, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > On Feb 15, 6:57?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

> >

> > > > On 15 Feb., 13:34, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:> On Feb 15, 2:49?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

> >

> > > > snip

> >

> > > > > > > No atheist has said that the Bible does not exist? ?So in what way do

> > > > > > > you claim it exists? ?Does it exist the same way something on Bob's

> > > > > > > list of alleged gods exits?

> > > > > > > In other words, does the Bible have a physical existence, or is it

> > > > > > > like one of the names on Bob's list?

> >

> > > > > > The book exists. ?I have 6 different copies of it myself in two

> > > > > > languages, because my work requires it. ?No atheist has said or

> > > > > > implied that it did not exist. ?You told a very stupid lie. ?You are

> > > > > > now, in a display of your inanity, trying to drag out your moronic

> > > > > > performance. ?Thanks for making your belief look bad.- Hide quoted text -

> >

> > > > > Well, that is wonderful, Thomas. ?Why don't you read something from

> > > > > your six Bibles sometimeinstead of reading the garbage that other

> > > > > atheists write about it?

> >

> > > > Boobie you don't know what I read. ? Keep up the good work though. ?We

> > > > are all grateful to you.

> >

> > > If you hang around me, you are going to read Isaiah.

> > > Isaiah 1:2

Guest bob young
Posted

rbwinn wrote:

> On Feb 13, 5:57�pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:

> > On 13 Feb 2007 16:54:11 -0800, in alt.atheism

> > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in

> > <1171414451.120125.63...@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >On Feb 13, 2:10 am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

> > >> On 13 Feb., 05:09, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

> >

> > >> > On Feb 12, 8:51?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote:

> >

> > >> > > rbwinn wrote:

> > >> > > > On Feb 11, 9:50?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote:

> > >> > > > > rbwinn wrote:

> > >> > > > > > On Feb 11, 4:10?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> > >> > > > > > > ?Not even just one?

> >

> > >> > > > > > > Damn, you'd think with all that omnipotence and ego, at least one god

> > >> > > > > > > would make itself known.

> >

> > >> > > > > > Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible?

> > >> > > > > > Robert B. Winn

> >

> > >> > > > > Where WOULD yuo people be without your old book of fables and myths.

> >

> > >> > > > > Does it never filter through to your brains and past your eye blinkers

> > >> > > > > [blinders] that is exactly what they are?

> >

> > >> > > > > Here's a few other man inspired and produced books:

> >

> > >> > > > We were discussing the Bible. ?Why did you want to change the

> > >> > > > subject? ?Now the Bible says, For God so loved the world that he sent

> > >> > > > his only Begotten Son.

> > >> > > > Jesus Christ said that he was the Son of God.

> > >> > > > Why are you saying that God did not make himself known?

> > >> > > > Robert B. Winn

> >

> > >> > > Because these were simply mythical stories written by near primitives who were

> > >> > > bored to tears every night with no radio or TV - all they listened to were

> > >> > > yarns around the evening camp fire told by wandering preachers.

> >

> > >> > > The more 'miraculous' his stories were the more free food he got and no doubt,

> > >> > > an extra drop of wine as well.

> >

> > >> > > Nothing changes does it - now the 'story tellers' ?have personal jets and fly

> > >> > > around the world presenting 'rigged' miracles to packed audiences of

> > >> > > thousands.....

> >

> > >> > > Bob

> > >> > > Humanist Brit.

> >

> > >> > > If priests had not been fond of mutton, lambs never would have been sacrified

> > >> > > to god. Nothing was ever carried to the temple that the priest could not use,

> > >> > > and it always happened that god wanted what his agents liked."

> > >> > > [Robert G. Ingersoll]

> >

> > >> > > As the caterpiller chooses the fairest leaves to lay her eggs on, so the

> > >> > > priest lays his curse on the fairest joys.

> > >> > > [William Blake]- Hide quoted text -

> >

> > >> > > - Show quoted text -

> >

> > >> > Well, of course, you are welcome to your own opinion.

Guest bob young
Posted

Free Lunch wrote:

> On 16 Feb 2007 16:54:10 -0800, in alt.atheism

> "rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in

> <1171673650.738689.54730@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:

> >On Feb 13, 5:57?pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:

> >> On 13 Feb 2007 16:54:11 -0800, in alt.atheism

> >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in

> >> <1171414451.120125.63...@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>:

>

> ...

>

> >> >I offered to send you a copy of the Bible. �ou have consistently

> >> >maintained that the Bible does not exist.

> >>

> >> How many more times will you repeat that lie.- Hide quoted text -

> >>

> >You atheists all play the same game. If you want to claim the Bible

> >does not exist go ahead and say it does not exist.

> >Robert B. Winn

>

> Once again you lie.

>

> You know that none of us have ever claimed that the Bible does not

> exist. You insist on this false witness because you cannot be honest and

> admit that the Bible is not in itself evidence of anything. It is just

> one of many religious texts that is held in high regard by one religion

> or another. There is no evidence that the Bible is any more true than

> the Q'ran or any other religious text.

>

> We all know the Bible exists. What we won't buy is your false claim that

> there is something special about it.

>

> Stop your lies.

 

It's a 'backs to the wall' reaction - pure and simple

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