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On Feb 17, 12:59�pm, "Bill M" <w...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message

>

> news:1171521149.118439.271150@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

> On Feb 14, 9:21?pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:

>

>

>

> > On 14 Feb 2007 18:59:33 -0800, in alt.atheism

> > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in

> > <1171508373.435033.309...@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>:

>

> > >On Feb 14, 5:24?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> > >> On Feb 14, 6:44 pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:

>

> > >> > On 14 Feb 2007 15:16:18 -0800, in alt.atheism

> > >> > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in

> > >> > <1171494978.705022.208...@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>:

>

> > >> > ...

>

> > >> > >Well, that is a myth that atheists like to tell. incoln said on

> > >> > >several occasions that he believed the Bible.

>

> > >> > Source with complete context please.

>

> > >> You'll never get it, not anything genuine.

>

> > >> Our religious kook might give you a forgery, as David Barton did in

> > >> his book.

>

> > forged quote of Lincoln is making its rounds in usenet at>> this very

> > moment.

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Guest Pastor Frank
Posted

"jl" <jls1016@bellsouth.net> wrote in message

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> On Feb 16, 9:15 pm, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

>>

>> I just quote Isaiah. Why do you find Isaiah to be so hostile?

>

> It is not the innocuous book. YOU are hostile and obnoxious, making

> deceitful statements and utterly oozing with condescension and hatred

> for the people debating with you. The newbies and the neutral readers

> will naturally be turned away from your repugnance. By your vitriolic

> threats of judgment, your total lack of kindness or reasonableness,

> you make a good argument for atheism.

>

LOL He got your nickers into a knot, did he? But then atheists will

stoop to anything to stop people talk about Jesus Christ our most holy and

glorious Lord and saviour.

 

 

 

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Guest Paul Ransom Erickson
Posted

On 16 Feb 2007 04:53:11 -0800, "rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote:

>On Feb 13, 5:20?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>> On Feb 13, 8:38 am, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

>>

>>

>>

>> > Well, if you think I said something demonstrably false, go right ahead

>> > and tell us what it was. �o far we have not reached the point where I

>> > would say you have even admitted that the Bible exists. �here is so

>> > much untruth in anything you say that I would have to see proof that

>> > you admit the Bible exists.

>> > Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text -

>>

>> Watch Bob grow angry.

>ust like his pipe dream of a god, angry.

>

> Well, I did quote some scriptures from Isaiah.

>Isaiah 1:14 Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul

>hatetyh: they are a trouble unto me: I am weary to bear them.

>Robert B. Winn

 

Poor God, always having to bear the humans' seasonal and lunar

festivals!

 

I can certainly understand how God would think "Oh, me, not another

new moon, not another festival! How can I go on like this?"

Guest Free Lunch
Posted

On 17 Feb 2007 17:49:29 -0800, in alt.atheism

"rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in

<1171763369.009719.61910@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>:

>On Feb 17, 7:18?am, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:

>> On 17 Feb 2007 04:25:58 -0800, in alt.atheism

>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in

>> <1171715158.037133.217...@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>:>On Feb 16, 2:19?pm, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

>> >> On 16 Feb., 15:20, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote:> On Feb 15, 8:57 pm, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

>>

>> >> > > On Feb 15, 7:01?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

>>

>> >> snip

>>

>> >> > > You forgot about Isaiah.

>> >> > > Isaiah 1:4

>>

>> h sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a seed of>> > > evildoers, children that are corrupters; 4hey have forsaken the Lord,

>> >> > > they have provoked the Holy One of Israel unto anger, they are gone

>> >> > > away backward.

>> >> > > Let's see how long you can last, atheist.

>> >> > > Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text -

>>

>> >> > > - Show quoted text -

>>

>> >> > LOL!

>>

>> obby thinks he's causing great discomfort like holding a cross

>>

>> >> > up to the face of a vampire.-

>>

>> >> It is strange isn't it? % really seems to believe that reading

>> >> verses from Isaiah will scare atheists. 4 is hard to accept that

>> >> somebody can be so incredibly silly.

>>

>> >Well, it is a win-win situation. f an atheist runs away like james

>> >g. keegan did, then you do not have to talk to him again. f an

>> >atheist sticks around, then he cannot pretend that he has never had

>> >anything intelligent said to him. �e has read a few verses from the

>> >book of Isaiah.

>>

>> If there was anything intelligent said, it did not come from you and

>> your bizarrely chosen Isaiah quotes.

>

>Well, whatever Isaiah wrote was intelligent. Isaiah was a prophet of

>God.

 

So you assert, though no evidence to support the claim exists.

>Isaiah 2:3 And many people shall go and sayu, Come ye, and let us go

>up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob: and

>he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out

>of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the Lord from

>Jerusalem.

 

Nice words. Meaningless, but nice.

>Robert B. Winn

Guest Free Lunch
Posted

On 17 Feb 2007 18:09:00 -0800, in alt.atheism

"rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in

<1171764539.983581.184100@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com>:

>On Feb 17, 10:21?am, "jl" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>> On Feb 16, 8:53 pm, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> > On Feb 16, 5:52?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

>>

>> > > On 16 Feb., 13:17, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:> On Feb 13, 6:31?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

>>

>> > > > > On 13 Feb., 14:03, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

>>

>> > > > > > On Feb 12, 9:21?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote:

>>

>> > > snip

>>

>> > > > > What we do not have is any evidence of any miracle.- Hide quoted text -

>>

>> > > > > - Show quoted text -

>>

>> > > > Well, if you had been one of the people in Jerusalem at thattime, you

>> > > > might have seen it a little differently. ?It did not seem like a

>> > > > miracle to Sennacherrib after he arrived home in Ninevah safe and

>> > > > sound, but when it happened, he was not so sure.

>> > > > Robert B. Winn- Skjul tekst i anf?stegn -

>>

>> > > Sorry boobie but your fantasies about what happened or what people

>> > > thought back then are not evidence.

>>

>> > Well, why don't we go right to what Isaiah wrote, Thomas?

>> > Isaiah 1:20

ut if ye refuse and rebel, ye shall be devoured with the

>> > sword, for the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it.

>> > Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text -

>>

>> > - Show quoted text -

>>

>> Do you have another testament of Jesus Christ? Why don't you mix it

>> up and quote some from that one. �e have already heard all of the

>> book of Isaiah. t is quite poetic and interesting and probably

>> teaches a good lesson or two, but is otherwise irrational and probably

>> the result of hallucinations.- Hide quoted text -

>>

>> - Show quoted text -

>

>OK. Gettiong tired of Isaiah? We are only to the second chapter.

>2 Nephi 12:4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke

>many people: and they shall beat their swords into plow-shares, and

>their spears into pruning-hooks--nation shall not lift up sword

>against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

>Robert B. Winn

 

Thanks for changing books.

 

Still, your quotes are unrelated to anything that went on before in this

thread.

Guest bob young
Posted

Bill M wrote:

> "rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message

> news:1171521149.118439.271150@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

> On Feb 14, 9:21?pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:

> > On 14 Feb 2007 18:59:33 -0800, in alt.atheism

> > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in

> > <1171508373.435033.309...@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>:

> >

> >

> >

> > >On Feb 14, 5:24?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> > >> On Feb 14, 6:44 pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:

> >

> > >> > On 14 Feb 2007 15:16:18 -0800, in alt.atheism

> > >> > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in

> > >> > <1171494978.705022.208...@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>:

> >

> > >> > ...

> >

> > >> > >Well, that is a myth that atheists like to tell. incoln said on

> > >> > >several occasions that he believed the Bible.

> >

> > >> > Source with complete context please.

> >

> > >> You'll never get it, not anything genuine.

> >

> > >> Our religious kook might give you a forgery, as David Barton did in

> > >> his book.

> >

> > forged quote of Lincoln is making its rounds in usenet at>> this very

> > moment. t recommends hunting down and hanging anyone

> > >> critical of the war effort.

> >

> > pundit has already confessed that he is

> >

> > >> the author of the quote.

> >

> > >> The fraud was perpetrated by one of the Moonie rags, either the Moonie

> > >> Times or that bag of internet lies called _Insight Magazine._

> >

> > >Well, why don't you atheists just wait until after the resurrection

> > >and ask Abraham Lincoln in person if he believed the Bible?

> > >I see no reason to worry about it myself.

> >

> > Because you know that you have absolutely no evidence at all that there

> > is going to be a resurrection, yet you keep trying to duck questions

> > with your silly incantation.- Hide quoted text -

> >

> Jesus Christ was resurrected. That is all the evidence we need.

> Robert B. Winn

>

> You do not seem to understand the difference between a claim, a fable and

> objective verifiable evidence!

 

He only accepts what his mummy told him, forgetting that her mummy told her

and then her mummy told her and 'ad infinitum' - well not exactly, as sooner

or later we reach back to a small group of primitives that made the myth up in

the first place.

 

It's s hard to accept the fact that one's parents and grandparents were

telling unsubstantiated yarns - maybe for the best possible reasons, but

'yarns' nevertheless

Guest bob young
Posted

rbwinn wrote:

> On Feb 17, 12:59�pm, "Bill M" <w...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message

> >

> > news:1171521149.118439.271150@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

> > On Feb 14, 9:21?pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > > On 14 Feb 2007 18:59:33 -0800, in alt.atheism

> > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in

> > > <1171508373.435033.309...@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>:

> >

> > > >On Feb 14, 5:24?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> > > >> On Feb 14, 6:44 pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:

> >

> > > >> > On 14 Feb 2007 15:16:18 -0800, in alt.atheism

> > > >> > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in

> > > >> > <1171494978.705022.208...@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>:

> >

> > > >> > ...

> >

> > > >> > >Well, that is a myth that atheists like to tell. incoln said on

> > > >> > >several occasions that he believed the Bible.

> >

> > > >> > Source with complete context please.

> >

> > > >> You'll never get it, not anything genuine.

> >

> > > >> Our religious kook might give you a forgery, as David Barton did in

> > > >> his book.

> >

> > > forged quote of Lincoln is making its rounds in usenet at>> this very

> > > moment.

Guest bob young
Posted

jl wrote:

> On Feb 16, 9:15 pm, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

>

> > I just quote Isaiah. Why do you find Isaiah to be so hostile?

>

> It is not the innocuous book. YOU are hostile and obnoxious, making

> deceitful statements and utterly oozing with condescension and hatred

> for the people debating with you. The newbies and the neutral readers

> will naturally be turned away from your repugnance. By your vitriolic

> threats of judgment, your total lack of kindness or reasonableness,

> you make a good argument for atheism.

>

> He was

> > just telling the truth.

> > Isaiah 1:23 Thy princes are rebellious, and companions of thieves:

> > every one loveth gifts, and followeth after rewards: they judge not

> > the fatherless, neither doth the cause of the widow come unto them.

> > Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text -

> >

>

> This sounds like the latest swarms of TV preachers with their internal

> squabbling, $20 million bizjets, million-dollar salaries, Rolls-

> Royces, $10,000 suits, and palatial estates. Whose flock are you in,

> Benny HInn's, Creflo Dollar's, T. D. Jakes's, John Hagee's, Rod

> Parsley's? Pat Robertson's?

 

Benny has a private jet to get around the world faster in order to make

more criminal claims and carry out his pathetically staged confidence

tricks [miracles]

 

I wonder - can he sleep nights?

>

>

> Oh, ye hypocrites!

>

> King James Version: Matthew Chapter 16

> 1 The Pharisees also with the Sadducees came, and tempting desired him

> that he would shew them a sign from heaven.

>

> 2 He answered and said unto them, When it is evening, ye say, It will

> be fair weather: for the sky is red.

>

> 3 And in the morning, It will be foul weather to day: for the sky is

> red and lowering. O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky;

> but can ye not discern the signs of the times?

Guest bob young
Posted

Free Lunch wrote:

> On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 06:57:25 +0800, in alt.atheism

> "Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.edu> wrote in

> <45d6f3b5$0$16389$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>:

> >"jls" <jls1016@bellsouth.net> wrote in message

> >news:1171557849.413643.272690@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

> >> On Feb 15, 7:22 am, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

> >>> On Feb 15, 2:17?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

> >>> > On 15 Feb., 00:29, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

> >>> > > On Feb 13, 8:34?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote:

> >>> > > > Free Lunch wrote:

> >>> > > > > On 13 Feb 2007 16:54:11 -0800, in alt.atheism

> >>> > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in

> >>> > > > > <1171414451.120125.63...@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>:

> >>> > > > > >On Feb 13, 2:10 am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

> >>> > snip

> >>>

> >>> > > > > >I offered to send you a copy of the Bible. ?You have

> >>> > > > > >consistently

> >>> > > > > >maintained that the Bible does not exist.

> >>>

> >>> > > > > How many more times will you repeat that lie.

> >>>

> >>> > > > He is lying for god - so it's Okay.

> >>>

> >>> > > Well, Bob, does the Bible exist or not? ?You say whether it exists.

> >>> > > Don't try to call me a liar just because I called your bluff.

> >>>

> >>> > You are a liar. ?You said that I and others claimed the Bible did not

> >>> > exist. ?Not only was that a lie, it was incredibly silly. ?You called

> >>> > nobody's bluff; you just told a silly lie.- Hide quoted text -

> >>>

> >>> > - Show quoted text -

> >>>

> >>> You are still claiming that the Bible does not exist. If I ask you

> >>> about Isaiah's account of the Assyrian invasion of Judea, you reply

> >>> with an inane question about fictional characters. So, the

> >>> conversation is over. You are claiming that the Bible does not exist.

> >>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text -

> >>> - Show quoted text -

> >>

> >> You are pathetic, Bobby. You've done violence to the English language

> >> with your mendacity, and your only alternative now to propagate your

> >> superstition is violence against the person.

> >> Philosophers and freethinkers don't do violence, but it's second

> >> nature with you Christians.

> >>

> > Religion IS Philosophy, and free thinkers allowed Hitler to sell His

> >values to his nation and which caused the misery and death of untold

> >millions. Apparently, your simplistic mind would believe anyone who says he

> >is a Christian, even if he did, as well as advocate doing the opposite from

> >the principles Christ stands for to His death on the cross. "Pathetic"

> >indeed!!!! See below

>

> You know that Hitler appealed to Christians and got them to support him.

> You know that the slaveholders appealed to Christians and caused a

> terrible war in the US.

 

In The Deep South slave owners forced their slaves to go to church [separately]

now they have their own chapels with mega dollar bank accounts.

 

Not only did they enslave them physically, they enslaved them mentally too.

 

 

>

>

> >Pastor Frank

> >

> > The most important, yet most ignored commandments of Christ, which would

> >make war, if not ALL of man's inhumanity to man extinct, nay totally

> >unthinkable:

> > THE ROYAL LAW OF CHRIST

> > Jesus in Mk 12:30: And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy

> >heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy

> >strength: this is the first commandment.

> > 31: And the second is alike, namely this: Thou shalt love thy neighbour

> >as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

> > Jesus in Mat 22:40 "All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two

> >commandments."

> > THE GOLDEN RULE OF CHRIST, or Ethic of Reciprocity

> > Jesus in Matt. 7:12: "Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men

> >should do to you, do ye even so to them...."

Guest bob young
Posted

rbwinn wrote:

> On Feb 16, 10:10�pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote:

> > Free Lunch wrote:

> > > On 16 Feb 2007 16:54:10 -0800, in alt.atheism

> > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in

> > > <1171673650.738689.54...@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:

> > > >On Feb 13, 5:57?pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:

> > > >> On 13 Feb 2007 16:54:11 -0800, in alt.atheism

> > > >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in

> > > >> <1171414451.120125.63...@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>:

> >

> > > ...

> >

> > > >> >I offered to send you a copy of the Bible.

Guest Paul Ransom Erickson
Posted

On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 18:51:58 GMT, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us>

wrote:

>On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 07:35:48 +0800, in alt.atheism

>"Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.edu> wrote in

><45d6f3c4$0$16389$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>:

>>"Free Lunch" <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message

>>news:021at2dduc81elh421vfel0tr3he94oqc0@4ax.com...

>>> On 15 Feb 2007 04:31:43 -0800, in alt.atheism

>>> "rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in

>>> <1171542703.680913.131700@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>:

>>>>

>>>>Well, Thomas, here we see the last refuge of the atheist, the personal

>>>>attack. We were discussing the Bible here in alt.bible. Now everyone

>>>>can see your purpose in intruding in our conversation. If you do not

>>>>want to talk about the Bible, why don't you go live the happy life of

>>>>an atheist?

>>>

>>> I'm in alt.atheism watching you tell your lies. Why are you posting your

>>> lies in alt.atheism.

>>>

>> Because a.a. is ABOUT atheism, not a refuge FOR atheists. Also, atheist

>>doctrine demands, that what we consider the truth, atheists MUST call lies

>>or face excommunication and confiscation of their number.

>

>As people have pointed out again and again, yet you, in your hubris

>refuse to acknowledge, there is no such thing as atheist doctrine.

>

>It appears that you hate people.

 

Indeed. He spends a lot of time on alt.atheism telling us how awful

he thinks we are.

Guest bob young
Posted

rbwinn wrote:

> On Feb 16, 10:09�pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote:

> > rbwinn wrote:

> > > On Feb 13, 5:57?pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:

> > > > On 13 Feb 2007 16:54:11 -0800, in alt.atheism

> > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in

> > > > <1171414451.120125.63...@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>:

> >

> > > > >On Feb 13, 2:10 am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

> > > > >> On 13 Feb., 05:09, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

> >

> > > > >> > On Feb 12, 8:51?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote:

> >

> > > > >> > > rbwinn wrote:

> > > > >> > > > On Feb 11, 9:50?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote:

> > > > >> > > > > rbwinn wrote:

> > > > >> > > > > > On Feb 11, 4:10?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> > > > >> > > > > > > ?Not even just one?

> >

> > > > >> > > > > > > Damn, you'd think with all that omnipotence and ego, at least one god

> > > > >> > > > > > > would make itself known.

> >

> > > > >> > > > > > Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible?

> > > > >> > > > > > Robert B. Winn

> >

> > > > >> > > > > Where WOULD yuo people be without your old book of fables and myths.

> >

> > > > >> > > > > Does it never filter through to your brains and past your eye blinkers

> > > > >> > > > > [blinders] that is exactly what they are?

> >

> > > > >> > > > > Here's a few other man inspired and produced books:

> >

> > > > >> > > > We were discussing the Bible. ?Why did you want to change the

> > > > >> > > > subject? ?Now the Bible says, For God so loved the world that he sent

> > > > >> > > > his only Begotten Son.

> > > > >> > > > Jesus Christ said that he was the Son of God.

> > > > >> > > > Why are you saying that God did not make himself known?

> > > > >> > > > Robert B. Winn

> >

> > > > >> > > Because these were simply mythical stories written by near primitives who were

> > > > >> > > bored to tears every night with no radio or TV - all they listened to were

> > > > >> > > yarns around the evening camp fire told by wandering preachers.

> >

> > > > >> > > The more 'miraculous' his stories were the more free food he got and no doubt,

> > > > >> > > an extra drop of wine as well.

> >

> > > > >> > > Nothing changes does it - now the 'story tellers' ?have personal jets and fly

> > > > >> > > around the world presenting 'rigged' miracles to packed audiences of

> > > > >> > > thousands.....

> >

> > > > >> > > Bob

> > > > >> > > Humanist Brit.

> >

> > > > >> > > If priests had not been fond of mutton, lambs never would have been sacrified

> > > > >> > > to god. Nothing was ever carried to the temple that the priest could not use,

> > > > >> > > and it always happened that god wanted what his agents liked."

> > > > >> > > [Robert G. Ingersoll]

> >

> > > > >> > > As the caterpiller chooses the fairest leaves to lay her eggs on, so the

> > > > >> > > priest lays his curse on the fairest joys.

> > > > >> > > [William Blake]- Hide quoted text -

> >

> > > > >> > > - Show quoted text -

> >

> > > > >> > Well, of course, you are welcome to your own opinion. ?Why don't you

> > > > >> > explain your ideas to Jesus Christ when he returns to judge the earth?

> > > > >> > Robert B. Winn- Skjul tekst i anf?rselstegn -

> >

> > > > >> Well, of course, you are welcome to present evidence that your

> > > > >> religious beliefs are true. ?Until then, there is no reason to believe

> > > > >> you.

> >

> > > > >I offered to send you a copy of the Bible. ?You have consistently

> > > > >maintained that the Bible does not exist.

> >

> > > > How many more times will you repeat that lie.- Hide quoted text -

> >

> > > You atheists all play the same game.

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Posted

rbwinn wrote:

> On Feb 17, 7:17�am, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:

> > On 17 Feb 2007 04:32:59 -0800, in alt.atheism

> > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in

> > <1171715579.252212.188...@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>:

> >

> > >On Feb 16, 10:09?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote:

> > >> rbwinn wrote:

> > >> > On Feb 13, 5:57?pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:

> > ...

> > >> > > How many more times will you repeat that lie.- Hide quoted text -

> >

> > >> > You atheists all play the same game.

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Posted

rbwinn wrote:

> On Feb 16, 10:23�pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote:

> > rbwinn wrote:

> > > On Feb 16, 4:25?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

> > > > On 16 Feb., 02:54, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

> >

> > > > > On Feb 15, 6:59?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

> >

> > > > > > On 15 Feb., 13:44, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

> >

> > > > > > > On Feb 15, 2:52?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

> >

> > > > > > > > On 15 Feb., 00:54, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:> On Feb 13, 11:48?pm, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

> >

> > > > > > > > snip

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > I offered to send you a copy of the Bible. ?You have consistently

> > > > > > > > > > > maintained that the Bible does not exist.

> >

> > > > > > > > > > Poor little Bobby thinks that repeating inane lies accomplishes

> > > > > > > > > > something besides making him look like a fool.- Hide quoted text -

> >

> > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -

> >

> > > > > > > > > Well, let's get right to it. ?In what way do you acknowedge that the

> > > > > > > > > Bible exists? ?Bob has a list that he keeps posting. ?Does the Bible

> > > > > > > > > exist the same way something on Bob's list exists?

> >

> > > > > > > > And the twit continues to make a fool of himself.

> >

> > > > > > > So what is the cause of your reluctance to answer the question? ?

> >

> > > > > > Bob

> >

> > > > > > > has a list of evil spirits that he claims exist in the world. ?Does

> > > > > > > the Bible have an existence like something on Bob's list or is the

> > > > > > > Bible tangible?

> > > > > > > Maybe the question is too difficult for you.

> > > > > > > More likely, you have received enough atheistic education to see the

> > > > > > > difficulty that the Bible presents for atheism, so you continue to say

> > > > > > > that the Bible does not exist.

> > > > > > > You say you have six Bibles. ?What is that supposed to mean? ?Do you

> > > > > > > have six books that can be read, or do you have six imaginary books?

> >

> > > > > > That's better boobie, more like your babbling self. ?I knew you could

> > > > > > do it.- Hide quoted text -

> >

> > > > > > - Show quoted text -

> >

> > > > > Well, let's study Isaiah some more, then.

> > > > > Isaiah 1:3 ?The ox knoweth his owner, and the ass his master's crib;

> > > > > but Israel doth not know, my people doth not consider.

> > > > > The last atheist I did this with was james e. keegan. ?He only lasted

> > > > > a couple of chapters.

> >

> > > > Got bored did he? ?I find it hilarious.- Hide quoted text -

> >

> > > > - Show quoted text -

> >

> > > Here is one you will really find funny.

> > > Isaiah 1:17

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rbwinn wrote:

> On Feb 17, 12:23�pm, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

> > On 17 Feb., 13:22, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > On Feb 16, 2:05?pm, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

> >

> > > > On 16 Feb., 04:57, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote:> rbwinn wrote:

> > > > > > On Feb 15, 2:52?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

> > > > > > > On 15 Feb., 00:54, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:> On Feb 13, 11:48?pm, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

> >

> > > > snip

> >

> > > > > > > > Well, let's get right to it. ?In what way do you acknowedge that the

> > > > > > > > Bible exists? ?Bob has a list that he keeps posting. ?Does the Bible

> > > > > > > > exist the same way something on Bob's list exists?

> >

> > > > > > > And the twit continues to make a fool of himself.

> > > > > > So what is the cause of your reluctance to answer the question? ?Bob

> > > > > > has a list of evil spirits that he claims exist in the world. ?Does

> > > > > > the Bible have an existence like something on Bob's list or is the

> > > > > > Bible tangible?

> >

> > > > > You must be some kind of fool.

> >

> > > > Apparently he is insane. ?We are not going to get a rational response

> > > > out of him; it is just not in him.

> >

> > > > snip

> >

> > > Well, the poor little atheists do not want to answer questions about

> > > their beliefs.

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rbwinn wrote:

> On Feb 16, 10:43?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote:

> > rbwinn wrote:

> > > On Feb 13, 5:48?pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:

> > > > On 13 Feb 2007 16:39:50 -0800, in alt.atheism

> > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in

> > > > <1171413590.219240.10...@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>:

> >

> > > > >On Feb 12, 9:25 am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

> > > > >> On 12 Feb., 03:23, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

> >

> > > > >> > On Feb 11, 4:10?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> >

> > > > >> > > ?Not even just one?

> >

> > > > >> > > Damn, you'd think with all that omnipotence and ego, at least one god

> > > > >> > > would make itself known.

> >

> > > > >> > Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible?

> > > > >> > Robert B. Winn

> >

> > > > >> Why, don't you have any evidence to offer?

> >

> > > > >All things that exist show that there is a God.

> >

> > > > So you assert without any kind of support at all.

> >

> > > > >So why is it that you

> > > > >do not want to read the Bible?

> >

> > > > I've read it.- Hide quoted text -

> >

> > > > - Show quoted text -

> >

> > > What did you think of the book of Isaiah?

> > > Robert B. Winn

> >

> > I think the book of Isaiah has turned Robert Winn into a 'kook'

> >

> > That's what i think- Hide quoted text -

> >

> > - Show quoted text -

>

> Are you trying to say that you do not like the book of Isaiah, Bob.

> What is the matter, don't you enjoy reading something intelligent?

> Robert B. Winn

 

I mean what I say, i do not 'read anything between the lines'

 

<REPLONKED>

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Posted

rbwinn wrote:

> On Feb 16, 11:17�pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote:

> > rbwinn wrote:

> > > On Feb 13, 11:43�pm, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

> > > > On 14 Feb., 01:39, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

> >

> > > > > On Feb 12, 9:25 am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

> >

> > > > > > On 12 Feb., 03:23, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

> >

> > > > > > > On Feb 11, 4:10?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> >

> > > > > > > > ?Not even just one?

> >

> > > > > > > > Damn, you'd think with all that omnipotence and ego, at least one god

> > > > > > > > would make itself known.

> >

> > > > > > > Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible?

> > > > > > > Robert B. Winn

> >

> > > > > > Why, don't you have any evidence to offer?

> >

> > > > > All things that exist show that there is a God.

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Pastor Frank wrote:

> "bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message

> news:45D44A1F.AE97127E@netvigator.com...

> > Pastor Frank wrote:

> >> "thomas p." <tonyofbexar@yahoo.dk> wrote in message

> >> news:1171373780.070323.55070@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

> >> >

> >> > And no evidence for the truth of your beliefs.

> >> >

> >> Only as little as you have evidence for you disbelief.

> >

> > Fool - only the claimant is beholden to show proof.

> > Religion is 'nothing' how can it possible be proved?

> > But of course you already knew that

> >

> Religion is a values system, and you fail to prove, that having nor

> value system is better than having one. It's just your very own, personal

> and private assumption.

 

WRONG

 

I can say "This is the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth"

 

I do not need the 'myth bit' on the end

which turns a most serious statement into a laughing stock

>

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"Free Lunch" <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message

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> On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 06:57:25 +0800, in alt.atheism

> "Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.edu> wrote in

> <45d6f3b5$0$16389$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>:

>>"jls" <jls1016@bellsouth.net> wrote in message

>>news:1171557849.413643.272690@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

>>> On Feb 15, 7:22 am, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

>>>> On Feb 15, 2:17?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

>>>> > On 15 Feb., 00:29, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

>>>> > > On Feb 13, 8:34?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote:

>>>> > > > Free Lunch wrote:

>>>> > > > > On 13 Feb 2007 16:54:11 -0800, in alt.atheism

>>>> > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in

>>>> > > > > <1171414451.120125.63...@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>:

>>>> > > > > >On Feb 13, 2:10 am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

>>>> > snip

>>>>

>>>> > > > > >I offered to send you a copy of the Bible. ?You have

>>>> > > > > >consistently

>>>> > > > > >maintained that the Bible does not exist.

>>>>

>>>> > > > > How many more times will you repeat that lie.

>>>>

>>>> > > > He is lying for god - so it's Okay.

>>>>

>>>> > > Well, Bob, does the Bible exist or not? ?You say whether it exists.

>>>> > > Don't try to call me a liar just because I called your bluff.

>>>>

>>>> > You are a liar. ?You said that I and others claimed the Bible did not

>>>> > exist. ?Not only was that a lie, it was incredibly silly. ?You called

>>>> > nobody's bluff; you just told a silly lie.- Hide quoted text -

>>>>

>>>> > - Show quoted text -

>>>>

>>>> You are still claiming that the Bible does not exist. If I ask you

>>>> about Isaiah's account of the Assyrian invasion of Judea, you reply

>>>> with an inane question about fictional characters. So, the

>>>> conversation is over. You are claiming that the Bible does not exist.

>>>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text -

>>>> - Show quoted text -

>>>

>>> You are pathetic, Bobby. You've done violence to the English language

>>> with your mendacity, and your only alternative now to propagate your

>>> superstition is violence against the person.

>>> Philosophers and freethinkers don't do violence, but it's second

>>> nature with you Christians.

>>>

>> Religion IS Philosophy, and free thinkers allowed Hitler to sell His

>>values to his nation and which caused the misery and death of untold

>>millions. Apparently, your simplistic mind would believe anyone who says

>>he

>>is a Christian, even if he did, as well as advocate doing the opposite

>>from

>>the principles Christ stands for to His death on the cross. "Pathetic"

>>indeed!!!! See below

>

> You know that Hitler appealed to Christians and got them to support him.

> You know that the slaveholders appealed to Christians and caused a

> terrible war in the US.

>

The devil "appeals to Christians" but Bible believing Christians don't

believe him. Do YOU believe the devil?

 

 

 

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"Free Lunch" <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message

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> On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 07:35:48 +0800, in alt.atheism

> "Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.edu> wrote in

> <45d6f3c4$0$16389$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>:

>>"Free Lunch" <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message

>>news:021at2dduc81elh421vfel0tr3he94oqc0@4ax.com...

>>> On 15 Feb 2007 04:31:43 -0800, in alt.atheism

>>> "rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in

>>> <1171542703.680913.131700@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>:

>>>>

>>>>Well, Thomas, here we see the last refuge of the atheist, the personal

>>>>attack. We were discussing the Bible here in alt.bible. Now everyone

>>>>can see your purpose in intruding in our conversation. If you do not

>>>>want to talk about the Bible, why don't you go live the happy life of

>>>>an atheist?

>>>

>>> I'm in alt.atheism watching you tell your lies. Why are you posting your

>>> lies in alt.atheism.

>>>

>> Because a.a. is ABOUT atheism, not a refuge FOR atheists. Also,

>> atheist

>>doctrine demands, that what we consider the truth, atheists MUST call lies

>>or face excommunication and confiscation of their number.

>

> As people have pointed out again and again, yet you, in your hubris

> refuse to acknowledge, there is no such thing as atheist doctrine.

> It appears that you hate people.

>

Then what is it your are proselytizing? And which has as it's central

theme: "There ain't no god(s)"?

Then show the connection between "hating people" and atheist doctrine

about the existence of god(s). Either that, or admit you are just lying

again for atheism.

 

 

 

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"Free Lunch" <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message

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> On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 07:37:59 +0800, in alt.atheism

> "Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.edu> wrote in

> <45d6f3c9$0$16389$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>:

>>"Free Lunch" <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message

>>news:j31at2l12hkhm60fc8cs025gduu2uo2a2d@4ax.com...

>>> On 15 Feb 2007 04:52:39 -0800, in alt.atheism

>>> "rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in

>>> <1171543959.023629.8540@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>:

>>>>On Feb 15, 4:35?am, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote:

>>>>> rbwinn wrote:

>>>>> > On Feb 13, 8:37?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote:

>>>>> > > Free Lunch wrote:

>>>>> > > > On 13 Feb 2007 16:39:50 -0800, in alt.atheism

>>>>> > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in

>>>>> > > > <1171413590.219240.10...@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>:

>>>>> > > > >On Feb 12, 9:25 am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

>>>>> > > > >> On 12 Feb., 03:23, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>> > > > >> > On Feb 11, 4:10?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>> > > > >> > > ?Not even just one?

>>>>>

>>>>> > > > >> > > Damn, you'd think with all that omnipotence and ego, at

>>>>> > > > >> > > least one god

>>>>> > > > >> > > would make itself known.

>>>>>

>>>>> > > > >> > Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible?

>>>>> > > > >> > Robert B. Winn

>>>>>

>>>>> > > > >> Why, don't you have any evidence to offer?

>>>>>

>>>>> > > > >All things that exist show that there is a God.

>>>>>

>>>>> > > [i must remember to add that 'little gem' to my list of

>>>>> > > 'Religious propagator's backs to the wall cop-out's]

>>>>>

>>>>> > Well, Bob, you were willing to provide us with a list of evil

>>>>> > spirits. �hy don't you make a list for us of the things that do not

>>>>> > show that there is a God?

>>>>> > Robert B. Winn

>>>>>

>>>>> with pleasure

>>>>>

>>>>> [Preface]

>>>>>

>>>>> "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one

>>>>> fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the

>>>>> other

>>>>> possible

>>>>> gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."

>>>>> [stephen Roberts]

>>>>

>>>>Well, there is really no such thing as an atheist. All atheists will

>>>>eventually confess that there is a God.

>>>

>>> Another smug little self-righteous lie from the man who rejects Jesus's

>>> teachings about hypocricy.

>>>

>> Quote Jesus on that, or admit you are lying for atheism.

>

> Matthew 23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for

> ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in

> yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.

>

> 14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour

> widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall

> receive the greater damnation.

>

> 15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea

> and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold

> more the child of hell than yourselves.

>

> You _know_ that I do not lie.

>

Who is "rejecting the teachings of Jesus" more than atheists? You ARE

lying about us followers of Christ rejecting His teaching like atheists do?

We are no Pharisees either.

You got yourself between a rock and a hard place. Is that why you now

screech nonsense to extricate yourself from your lies?

 

 

 

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"Free Lunch" <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message

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> On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 02:47:19 +0800, in alt.atheism

> "Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.edu> wrote in

> <45d6f3a7$0$16389$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>:

>>"Free Lunch" <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message

>>news:aqobt25i1qsgpb1no46e791mk6s5evuf7c@4ax.com...

>>> On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 06:04:25 +0800, in alt.atheism

>>> "Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.edu> wrote in

>>> <45d522db$0$30102$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>:

>>>>"thomas p." <tonyofbexar@yahoo.dk> wrote in message

>>>>news:1171435408.363121.177970@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...

>>>>> On 14 Feb., 01:39, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

>>>>>> On Feb 12, 9:25 am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

>>>>>> > On 12 Feb., 03:23, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

>>>>>> > > On Feb 11, 4:10?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>> > > > ?Not even just one?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> > > > Damn, you'd think with all that omnipotence and ego, at least

>>>>>> > > > one

>>>>>> > > > god

>>>>>> > > > would make itself known.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> > > Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible?

>>>>>> > > Robert B. Winn

>>>>>>

>>>>>> > Why, don't you have any evidence to offer?

>>>>>

>>>>>> All things that exist show that there is a God.

>>>>>

>>>>> Name one of them and explain why it is evidence of a god.

>>>>>

>>>> The fact that without God there would be nothing, if fact even

>>>> 'nothing'

>>>>could not be. That should narrow the choice of definitions for the word

>>>>"God" a little. As a rule, the gods of atheist definition don't exist,

>>>>and

>>>>atheists are very, very intent on making sure of that. So you are

>>>>unlikely

>>>>to pick a definition for the word 'god' that would entail existence as a

>>>>whole.

>>>

>>> I think you just reinvented pantheism.

>>>

>> Pantheism = existence is God, but Christianity believes that existence

>>is the consequence of God, i.e God speaking the universe into existence.

>>That is why "in the beginning was the word" expressing an idea. And that

>>word / idea became reality.

>

> Your particular Christianity is clearly heterodox, but the reason I

> noted that you were reinventing pantheism was your claim that implied

> that God and existence were coterminous.

>

Only in so far as without God, there is no existence. For God not only

made us, but keeps us in being. See below

 

Pastor Frank

 

Acts:17:28: For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain

also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.

 

 

 

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Free Lunch wrote:

> On 17 Feb 2007 04:25:58 -0800, in alt.atheism

> "rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in

> <1171715158.037133.217080@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>:

> >On Feb 16, 2:19?pm, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

> >> On 16 Feb., 15:20, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote:> On Feb 15, 8:57 pm, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

> >>

> >> > > On Feb 15, 7:01?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

> >>

> >> snip

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> > > You forgot about Isaiah.

> >> > > Isaiah 1:4

> h sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a seed of

> >> > > evildoers, children that are corrupters; 4hey have forsaken the Lord,

> >> > > they have provoked the Holy One of Israel unto anger, they are gone

> >> > > away backward.

> >> > > Let's see how long you can last, atheist.

> >> > > Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text -

> >>

> >> > > - Show quoted text -

> >>

> >> > LOL!

> obby thinks he's causing great discomfort like holding a cross

> >> > up to the face of a vampire.-

> >>

> >> It is strange isn't it? �e really seems to believe that reading

> >> verses from Isaiah will scare atheists. t is hard to accept that

> >> somebody can be so incredibly silly.

> >

> >Well, it is a win-win situation. If an atheist runs away like james

> >g. keegan did, then you do not have to talk to him again. If an

> >atheist sticks around, then he cannot pretend that he has never had

> >anything intelligent said to him. He has read a few verses from the

> >book of Isaiah.

>

> If there was anything intelligent said, it did not come from you and

> your bizarrely chosen Isaiah quotes.

 

Isiah is his 'last straw'

and he ain't gonna let go of that to drown !

Guest bob young
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rbwinn wrote:

> On Feb 17, 1:57�am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

> > On 17 Feb., 02:58, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > On Feb 16, 5:59?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

> >

> > >snip

> >

> > > > > Well, here is a Scripture from Isaiah for you to explain.

> > > > > Isaiah 1:12 ?When ye come to appear before me, who hath required this

> > > > > aty your hand, to tread my courts?

> >

> > > > Why do you think it needs to be explained?- Hide quoted text -

> >

> > > > - Show quoted text -

> >

> > > Well, if you do not want to explain your presence here in alt.bible,

> > > certainly no one is going to require you to explain.

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"Free Lunch" <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message

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> On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 06:41:50 +0800, in alt.atheism

> "Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.edu> wrote in

> <45d6f3b1$0$16389$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>:

>>"jls" <jls1016@bellsouth.net> wrote in message

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>>> On Feb 14, 3:17 am, "Pastor Frank" <P...@christfirst.edu> wrote:

>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:1171374673.776239.100670@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...

>>>>

>>>> What is it that you think you are going to accomplish by making all of

>>>> these lists of things you do not believe?

>>>> Do you have any lists of things you believe?

>>>> Robert B. Winn

>>>> ------------------

>>>> Atheists ONLY have lists of disbeliefs.

>>>

>>> No, they believe in reality, in the scientific method, in the fossil

>>> record, in the beauties of the world and universe, and are skeptical

>>> of people who make claims based on a book whose provenance is at best

>>> a pretence without corroboration.

>>>

>> So you say, but atheists only talk about their disbeliefs and never

>> say

>>anything they believe.

>

> False witness from Frank. Who would have expected that after so many of

> his lie filled comments in the past.

>

Thanks for proving my point. So you disbelieve what I just said, as

usual, and are now claiming that atheism is a belief system, instead of a

disbelief system. Let's see you prove that. Either prove it, or admit your

just lying for atheism again.

 

 

 

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