Guest bob young Posted February 18, 2007 Posted February 18, 2007 Free Lunch wrote: > On 17 Feb 2007 17:49:29 -0800, in alt.atheism > "rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in > <1171763369.009719.61910@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>: > >On Feb 17, 7:18?am, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> On 17 Feb 2007 04:25:58 -0800, in alt.atheism > >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in > >> <1171715158.037133.217...@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>:>On Feb 16, 2:19?pm, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > >> >> On 16 Feb., 15:20, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote:> On Feb 15, 8:57 pm, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > >> > >> >> > > On Feb 15, 7:01?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > >> > >> >> snip > >> > >> >> > > You forgot about Isaiah. > >> >> > > Isaiah 1:4 > >> > >> h sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a seed of>> > > evildoers, children that are corrupters; 4hey have forsaken the Lord, > >> >> > > they have provoked the Holy One of Israel unto anger, they are gone > >> >> > > away backward. > >> >> > > Let's see how long you can last, atheist. > >> >> > > Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text - > >> > >> >> > > - Show quoted text - > >> > >> >> > LOL! > >> > >> obby thinks he's causing great discomfort like holding a cross > >> > >> >> > up to the face of a vampire.- > >> > >> >> It is strange isn't it? % really seems to believe that reading > >> >> verses from Isaiah will scare atheists. 4 is hard to accept that > >> >> somebody can be so incredibly silly. > >> > >> >Well, it is a win-win situation. f an atheist runs away like james > >> >g. keegan did, then you do not have to talk to him again. f an > >> >atheist sticks around, then he cannot pretend that he has never had > >> >anything intelligent said to him. �e has read a few verses from the > >> >book of Isaiah. > >> > >> If there was anything intelligent said, it did not come from you and > >> your bizarrely chosen Isaiah quotes. > > > >Well, whatever Isaiah wrote was intelligent. Isaiah was a prophet of > >God. More like a primitive propagator of godly words - much nearer the truth but we will never know will we, only the brainwashed 'know' > > > So you assert, though no evidence to support the claim exists. > > >Isaiah 2:3 And many people shall go and sayu, Come ye, and let us go > >up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob: and > >he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out > >of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the Lord from > >Jerusalem. > > Nice words. Meaningless, but nice. > > >Robert B. Winn Quote
Guest Pastor Frank Posted February 18, 2007 Posted February 18, 2007 "thomas p." <tonyofbexar@yahoo.dk> wrote in message news:1171740183.448030.238450@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > On 17 Feb., 13:22, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >> On Feb 16, 2:05?pm, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: >> > On 16 Feb., 04:57, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote:> >> > rbwinn wrote: >> > > > On Feb 15, 2:52?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: >> > > > > On 15 Feb., 00:54, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:> On Feb 13, >> > > > > 11:48?pm, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: >> >> Well, the poor little atheists do not want to answer questions about >> their beliefs. That is because they do not have any beliefs, only >> criticisms of the beliefs of others. > > Poor boobie, he just can't help lying. > He's got you Bob, dead on!!!! Tell us about the beliefs you claim to have and which are neither copied from Christ nor involve trashing other people's beliefs. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Quote
Guest bob young Posted February 18, 2007 Posted February 18, 2007 Pastor Frank wrote: > "Don Kresch" <ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote in message > news:u0t9t29t9133fjdkqcvtbp9dpnc036ov1m@4ax.com... > > > > Yes, and it's nice that my opinion and reality coincide. > > > Is "reality" the god you worship? Reality worshippers are stoic > fatalists, ready to accept whatever reality dishes out. Only God's people > are willing to make an effort to live up to ideals, in the hope of improving > upon reality. YEP - Frank and his ilk worship 'a concept' [which goes a long way towards confirming what we atheists have been saying all along] > > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Quote
Guest bob young Posted February 18, 2007 Posted February 18, 2007 jl wrote: > On Feb 17, 12:35 am, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > Pastor Frank wrote: > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > >news:1171414864.143358.80330@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > I am a Christian, and I believe there are contradictions in the > > > > Bible. > > > > Robert B. Winn > > > > > Most Christians consider the contradictions in the Bible as being merely > > > apparent, for in principle the Bible is inerrant and only interpretations of > > > the Bible can be errant and contradictory. > > > > Most Christians are a 'bundle of laughs' > > Yes, they are funny but in a sort of a pitiful way because they have > swallowed so many silly fictions as truth. > > They believe the creation story, that the earth was created in six > days and that God rested on the seventh. God is omnipotent by all > definitions so why should he need to rest? > > Three days go by in which he creates the earth and the water and > divides the night from the day and sets the water apart from the earth > and vegetates and seeds the earth. Then what does he do? He creates > the sun to rule over the day and the moon to rule over the night, and > as an afterthought he makes the stars for no particular purpose except > as pretties in the sky. But wait! No first grader aware of the vast > universe of galaxies and constellations would buy this story. It is > patently absurd. Even Jim and Huck saw through it as they rode down > the river in Twain's novel. Furthermore, you have no day without a > sun rising and setting and then rising again, making 24 hours --- > obviously the day spoken about in the creation story--- and yet three > days go by before the very essence of the day, the sun, is created. > > I feel sorry for poor Galileo, a brilliant man, a freethinker. He's > looking through a telescope and sees all these amazing things out > there and begins to question Genesis in light of his wonderful > discoveries. He sees that the creation story is malarkey, he cannot > fathom anything so absurd as a virgin birth, or a flat earth as the > center of the universe, or the sun revolving about the earth; and then > he can't say anything about it, cannot publish his marvelous results > and receive the public adulation of his scientific peers, for fear of > being burnt at the stake as a blasphemer. Yes I agree with all you say - but fear it will not get any better before it gets worse, helped in no small way by our Muslim fringe fanatical friends who get all worked up when someone says their imaginary allah does not exist either ! I watched a TV documentary from Israel covering their Islamic prisoners in jails there. They were allowed one phone call a week home and some were translated, the mothers would say a sentence followed by 'god willing' then she would make some other hopeful statement followed by 'god willing' again and again. When the human psyche becomes this saturated with primitive nonsense what hope is there for the sons and daughters of these otherwise normal folk? Quote
Guest bob young Posted February 18, 2007 Posted February 18, 2007 jl wrote: > On Feb 16, 8:45 pm, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > On Feb 16, 5:01?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 16 Feb., 03:04, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:> On Feb 15, 7:07?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > > snip > > > > > > > > So, Thomas, are your six Bibles tangible, or are they imaginary? ?Did > > > > > > you just make them up? > > > > > > Robert B. Winn- > > > > > > > Thank you boobie.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > You are welcome, atheist. ?My Bible is real. ?I will quote to you from > > > > the book of Isaiah. > > > > Isaiah 1:6 ?From the sole of the foot even unto the head there is no > > > > soundness in it; ?but wounds, and bruises, and putrifying sores: ?they > > > > have not been closed, neither bound up, neither mollified with > > > > ointment. > > > > Do you like studying Isaiah, atheist? > > > > > I didn't know your lunacy was so extreme. ?Why do you think the Book > > > of Isaiah would bother me at all? ? I have now read the Catholic Douay > > > translation, the King James version and the Danish translation of > > > Luther's German Bible. ?Nothing special happened. > > > > Well, here is another opportunity to read some verses from Isaiah. > > I could just tell you were going to get interested in the Bible. > > Isaiah 1:18 Come now, let us reason together, saith the Lord: though > > your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they > > be red like crimson, they shall be as wool. > > Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > Crazy as hell, the doctrine of original sin. Also insane is the > doctrine of vicarious atonement, i. e., that someone else like your > Jeezus should step in and undergo excruciation for your sins. He died > for YOUR sins, not mine. I wasn't born with original sin, you moron. > > Plus, your Jove sure does mix up his metaphors. Usually sins are > colored dark, and this time they're crimson like blood. Looks like > your Jove would make up his mind. I have <REPLONKED> him, he really is a waste of time and beyond help Quote
Guest bob young Posted February 18, 2007 Posted February 18, 2007 rbwinn wrote: > On Feb 16, 2:19�pm, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > On 16 Feb., 15:20, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote:> On Feb 15, 8:57 pm, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Feb 15, 7:01?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > snip > > > > > > > > > > You forgot about Isaiah. > > > > Isaiah 1:4 Quote
Guest bob young Posted February 18, 2007 Posted February 18, 2007 Free Lunch wrote: > On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 07:35:48 +0800, in alt.atheism > "Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.edu> wrote in > <45d6f3c4$0$16389$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>: > >"Free Lunch" <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message > >news:021at2dduc81elh421vfel0tr3he94oqc0@4ax.com... > >> On 15 Feb 2007 04:31:43 -0800, in alt.atheism > >> "rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in > >> <1171542703.680913.131700@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>: > >>> > >>>Well, Thomas, here we see the last refuge of the atheist, the personal > >>>attack. We were discussing the Bible here in alt.bible. Now everyone > >>>can see your purpose in intruding in our conversation. If you do not > >>>want to talk about the Bible, why don't you go live the happy life of > >>>an atheist? > >> > >> I'm in alt.atheism watching you tell your lies. Why are you posting your > >> lies in alt.atheism. > >> > > Because a.a. is ABOUT atheism, not a refuge FOR atheists. Also, atheist > >doctrine demands, that what we consider the truth, atheists MUST call lies > >or face excommunication and confiscation of their number. > > As people have pointed out again and again, yet you, in your hubris > refuse to acknowledge, there is no such thing as atheist doctrine. > > It appears that you hate people. he hates anyone that challenges his myth and then thinks nothing of lying through his teeth Quote
Guest bob young Posted February 18, 2007 Posted February 18, 2007 rbwinn wrote: > On Feb 13, 4:27�pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > On Feb 12, 10:41 pm, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > Quote
Guest thomas p. Posted February 18, 2007 Posted February 18, 2007 On 18 Feb., 03:15, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > On Feb 17, 12:23?pm, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: snip > > > > Well, the poor little atheists do not want to answer questions about > > > their beliefs. ?That is because they do not have any beliefs, only > > > criticisms of the beliefs of others. > > > Poor boobie, he just can't help lying.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Isaiah 2:6 Therefore thou hast forsaken thy people the house of > Jacob, because they be replentished from the east, and are > soothsayers like the Philistines, and they please themselves in the > children of strangers. And when boobie is not lying, he babbles. Boobie seriously needs professional help. I hope he gets it, so he can stop being so frightened of reality. Quote
Guest thomas p. Posted February 18, 2007 Posted February 18, 2007 On 18 Feb., 04:46, Paul Ransom Erickson <prerick...@houston.rr.com> wrote: > On 16 Feb 2007 04:53:11 -0800, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > >On Feb 13, 5:20?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > >> On Feb 13, 8:38 am, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > >> > Well, if you think I said something demonstrably false, go right ahead > >> > and tell us what it was. o far we have not reached the point where I > >> > would say you have even admitted that the Bible exists. here is so > >> > much untruth in anything you say that I would have to see proof that > >> > you admit the Bible exists. > >> > Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text - > > >> Watch Bob grow angry. > >ust like his pipe dream of a god, angry. > > > Well, I did quote some scriptures from Isaiah. > >Isaiah 1:14 Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul > >hatetyh: they are a trouble unto me: I am weary to bear them. > >Robert B. Winn > > Poor God, always having to bear the humans' seasonal and lunar > festivals! > > I can certainly understand how God would think "Oh, me, not another > new moon, not another festival! How can I go on like this?"- Not to mention spending all eternity with people like boobie. Quote
Guest bob young Posted February 18, 2007 Posted February 18, 2007 rbwinn wrote: > On Feb 16, 5:52�am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > On 16 Feb., 13:17, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:> On Feb 13, 6:31?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > > > On 13 Feb., 14:03, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 12, 9:21?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > > > snip > > > > > > What we do not have is any evidence of any miracle.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > Well, if you had been one of the people in Jerusalem at thattime, you > > > might have seen it a little differently. Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted February 18, 2007 Posted February 18, 2007 On Feb 17, 9:34�pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > On 17 Feb 2007 17:49:29 -0800, in alt.atheism > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in > <1171763369.009719.61...@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>: > > > > > > >On Feb 17, 7:18?am, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> On 17 Feb 2007 04:25:58 -0800, in alt.atheism > >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in > >> <1171715158.037133.217...@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>:>On Feb 16, 2:19?pm, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > >> >> On 16 Feb., 15:20, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote:> On Feb 15, 8:57 pm, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > >> >> > > On Feb 15, 7:01?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > >> >> snip > > >> >> > > You forgot about Isaiah. > >> >> > > Isaiah 1:4 > > >> h sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a seed of>> > > evildoers, children that are corrupters; 4hey have forsaken the Lord, > >> >> > > they have provoked the Holy One of Israel unto anger, they are gone > >> >> > > away backward. > >> >> > > Let's see how long you can last, atheist. > >> >> > > Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text - > > >> >> > > - Show quoted text - > > >> >> > LOL! > > >> obby thinks he's causing great discomfort like holding a cross > > >> >> > up to the face of a vampire.- > > >> >> It is strange isn't it? % really seems to believe that reading > >> >> verses from Isaiah will scare atheists. Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted February 18, 2007 Posted February 18, 2007 On Feb 17, 10:32�pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > Bill M wrote: > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > >news:1171521149.118439.271150@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > On Feb 14, 9:21?pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > > On 14 Feb 2007 18:59:33 -0800, in alt.atheism > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in > > > <1171508373.435033.309...@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>: > > > > >On Feb 14, 5:24?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > >> On Feb 14, 6:44 pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > > > >> > On 14 Feb 2007 15:16:18 -0800, in alt.atheism > > > >> > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in > > > >> > <1171494978.705022.208...@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>: > > > > >> > ... > > > > >> > >Well, that is a myth that atheists like to tell. incoln said on > > > >> > >several occasions that he believed the Bible. > > > > >> > Source with complete context please. > > > > >> You'll never get it, not anything genuine. > > > > >> Our religious kook might give you a forgery, as David Barton did in > > > >> his book. > > > > forged quote of Lincoln is making its rounds in usenet at>> this very > > > moment. Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted February 18, 2007 Posted February 18, 2007 On Feb 17, 10:36�pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Feb 17, 12:59�pm, "Bill M" <w...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > > >news:1171521149.118439.271150@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > > On Feb 14, 9:21?pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > > > > On 14 Feb 2007 18:59:33 -0800, in alt.atheism > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in > > > > <1171508373.435033.309...@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>: > > > > > >On Feb 14, 5:24?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > >> On Feb 14, 6:44 pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > > > > >> > On 14 Feb 2007 15:16:18 -0800, in alt.atheism > > > > >> > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in > > > > >> > <1171494978.705022.208...@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>: > > > > > >> > ... > > > > > >> > >Well, that is a myth that atheists like to tell. incoln said on > > > > >> > >several occasions that he believed the Bible. > > > > > >> > Source with complete context please. > > > > > >> You'll never get it, not anything genuine. > > > > > >> Our religious kook might give you a forgery, as David Barton did in > > > > >> his book. > > > > > forged quote of Lincoln is making its rounds in usenet at>> this very > > > > moment. Quote
Guest Free Lunch Posted February 18, 2007 Posted February 18, 2007 On 18 Feb 2007 07:53:50 -0800, in alt.atheism "rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in <1171814030.140365.45800@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>: >On Feb 17, 10:32?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: >> Bill M wrote: >> > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message >> >news:1171521149.118439.271150@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... >> > On Feb 14, 9:21?pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> > > On 14 Feb 2007 18:59:33 -0800, in alt.atheism >> > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in >> > > <1171508373.435033.309...@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>: >> >> > > >On Feb 14, 5:24?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote: >> > > >> On Feb 14, 6:44 pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> >> > > >> > On 14 Feb 2007 15:16:18 -0800, in alt.atheism >> > > >> > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in >> > > >> > <1171494978.705022.208...@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>: >> >> > > >> > ... >> >> > > >> > >Well, that is a myth that atheists like to tell. incoln said on >> > > >> > >several occasions that he believed the Bible. >> >> > > >> > Source with complete context please. >> >> > > >> You'll never get it, not anything genuine. >> >> > > >> Our religious kook might give you a forgery, as David Barton did in >> > > >> his book. >> >> > > forged quote of Lincoln is making its rounds in usenet at>> this very >> > > moment. t recommends hunting down and hanging anyone >> > > >> critical of the war effort. >> >> > > pundit has already confessed that he is >> >> > > >> the author of the quote. >> >> > > >> The fraud was perpetrated by one of the Moonie rags, either the Moonie >> > > >> Times or that bag of internet lies called _Insight Magazine._ >> >> > > >Well, why don't you atheists just wait until after the resurrection >> > > >and ask Abraham Lincoln in person if he believed the Bible? >> > > >I see no reason to worry about it myself. >> >> > > Because you know that you have absolutely no evidence at all that there >> > > is going to be a resurrection, yet you keep trying to duck questions >> > > with your silly incantation.- Hide quoted text - >> >> > Jesus Christ was resurrected. �hat is all the evidence we need. >> > Robert B. Winn >> >> > You do not seem to understand the difference between a claim, a fable and >> > objective verifiable evidence! >> >> He only accepts what his mummy told him, forgetting that her mummy told her >> and then her mummy told her and 'ad infinitum' - well not exactly, as sooner >> or later we reach back to a small group of primitives that made the myth up in >> the first place. >> >> It's s hard to accept the fact that one's parents and grandparents were >> telling unsubstantiated yarns - maybe for the best possible reasons, but >> 'yarns' nevertheless- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > >So when Jesus Christ said that he was not the offspring of monkeys, >you claim that he was telling a "yarn"? Since Jesus never said that, you are the one telling a tall tale. Still, when it comes to science, it doesn't really matter what someone claims Jesus said. The people who were writing these stories about Jesus had no idea about common descent or evolution. I would be impressed with the Bible if it had actually talked about it, but it doesn't. Quote
Guest Free Lunch Posted February 18, 2007 Posted February 18, 2007 On 18 Feb 2007 07:52:07 -0800, in alt.atheism "rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in <1171813927.654176.99950@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>: >On Feb 17, 9:34?pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> On 17 Feb 2007 17:49:29 -0800, in alt.atheism >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in >> <1171763369.009719.61...@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>: >> >> >> >> >> >> >On Feb 17, 7:18?am, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> >> On 17 Feb 2007 04:25:58 -0800, in alt.atheism >> >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in >> >> <1171715158.037133.217...@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>:>On Feb 16, 2:19?pm, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: >> >> >> On 16 Feb., 15:20, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote:> On Feb 15, 8:57 pm, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> > > On Feb 15, 7:01?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: >> >> >> >> snip >> >> >> >> > > You forgot about Isaiah. >> >> >> > > Isaiah 1:4 >> >> >> h sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a seed of>> > > evildoers, children that are corrupters; 4hey have forsaken the Lord, >> >> >> > > they have provoked the Holy One of Israel unto anger, they are gone >> >> >> > > away backward. >> >> >> > > Let's see how long you can last, atheist. >> >> >> > > Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> >> > > - Show quoted text - >> >> >> >> > LOL! >> >> >> obby thinks he's causing great discomfort like holding a cross >> >> >> >> > up to the face of a vampire.- >> >> >> >> It is strange isn't it? % really seems to believe that reading >> >> >> verses from Isaiah will scare atheists. 4 is hard to accept that >> >> >> somebody can be so incredibly silly. >> >> >> >Well, it is a win-win situation. f an atheist runs away like james >> >> >g. keegan did, then you do not have to talk to him again. & an >> >> >atheist sticks around, then he cannot pretend that he has never had >> >> >anything intelligent said to him. % has read a few verses from the >> >> >book of Isaiah. >> >> >> If there was anything intelligent said, it did not come from you and >> >> your bizarrely chosen Isaiah quotes. >> >> >Well, whatever Isaiah wrote was intelligent. saiah was a prophet of >> >God. >> >> So you assert, though no evidence to support the claim exists. >> >> >Isaiah 2:3 nd many people shall go and sayu, Come ye, and let us go >> >up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob: !nd >> >he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out >> >of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the Lord from >> >Jerusalem. >> >> Nice words. Meaningless, but nice. >> >> >> >> >Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > >Isaiah 2:7 Their land also is full of silver and gold, neither is >there any end of their treasures; their land is full of horses, >neither is there any end of their chariots. > >What I find amazing about Isaiah is that you can take any verse of >Isaiah in any order and you have an intelligent reply to anything said >by an atheist. Your delusions are entertaining. Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted February 18, 2007 Posted February 18, 2007 On Feb 17, 10:59�pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Feb 16, 10:23?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > > rbwinn wrote: > > > > On Feb 16, 4:25?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > > On 16 Feb., 02:54, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 15, 6:59?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > > > > > On 15 Feb., 13:44, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Feb 15, 2:52?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On 15 Feb., 00:54, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:> On Feb 13, 11:48?pm, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > snip > > > > > > > > > > > > > I offered to send you a copy of the Bible. ?You have consistently > > > > > > > > > > > > maintained that the Bible does not exist. > > > > > > > > > > > > Poor little Bobby thinks that repeating inane lies accomplishes > > > > > > > > > > > something besides making him look like a fool.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > Well, let's get right to it. ?In what way do you acknowedge that the > > > > > > > > > > Bible exists? ?Bob has a list that he keeps posting. ?Does the Bible > > > > > > > > > > exist the same way something on Bob's list exists? > > > > > > > > > > And the twit continues to make a fool of himself. > > > > > > > > > So what is the cause of your reluctance to answer the question? ? > > > > > > > > Bob > > > > > > > > > has a list of evil spirits that he claims exist in the world. ?Does > > > > > > > > the Bible have an existence like something on Bob's list or is the > > > > > > > > Bible tangible? > > > > > > > > Maybe the question is too difficult for you. > > > > > > > > More likely, you have received enough atheistic education to see the > > > > > > > > difficulty that the Bible presents for atheism, so you continue to say > > > > > > > > that the Bible does not exist. > > > > > > > > You say you have six Bibles. ?What is that supposed to mean? ?Do you > > > > > > > > have six books that can be read, or do you have six imaginary books? > > > > > > > > That's better boobie, more like your babbling self. ?I knew you could > > > > > > > do it.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > Well, let's study Isaiah some more, then. > > > > > > Isaiah 1:3 ?The ox knoweth his owner, and the ass his master's crib; > > > > > > but Israel doth not know, my people doth not consider. > > > > > > The last atheist I did this with was james e. keegan. ?He only lasted > > > > > > a couple of chapters. > > > > > > Got bored did he? ?I find it hilarious.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > Here is one you will really find funny. > > > > Isaiah 1:17 ?Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your > > > > doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil. > > > > Robert B. Winn > > > > They had good cause to say such things back then > > > > Imagine waking up tommorow with - - - ?no legal deeds on your home, no law enforcement - no LAWS. > > > > No protection angainst 'anyone' with bad intentions; especially if they were in a group larger than yours. > > > > Oh yes; the fear of imaginary gods was - well - ?'all they had back then'. > > > > It really became 'instinctive' as a result. ?Nature [evolution] has a habit of doing that - just look around you...... > > > > [No.......... on second thoughts..........that would be too much to ask]- Hide quoted text - > > > Well, that would not be as bad as having people like you claiming they > > were enforcing laws. > > Robert B. Winn > > I am not an enforcer - we humans leave that to theproperauthorities. > > you missed my point of course, or you dodged it. > > I would hate to be a religionist trying to prop up my myth. Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted February 18, 2007 Posted February 18, 2007 On Feb 17, 11:02�pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Feb 17, 12:23�pm, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > On 17 Feb., 13:22, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 16, 2:05?pm, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > > > On 16 Feb., 04:57, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote:> rbwinn wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 15, 2:52?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > > > > > On 15 Feb., 00:54, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:> On Feb 13, 11:48?pm, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > > > snip > > > > > > > > > > Well, let's get right to it. ?In what way do you acknowedge that the > > > > > > > > > Bible exists? ?Bob has a list that he keeps posting. ?Does the Bible > > > > > > > > > exist the same way something on Bob's list exists? > > > > > > > > > And the twit continues to make a fool of himself. > > > > > > > So what is the cause of your reluctance to answer the question? ?Bob > > > > > > > has a list of evil spirits that he claims exist in the world. ?Does > > > > > > > the Bible have an existence like something on Bob's list or is the > > > > > > > Bible tangible? > > > > > > > You must be some kind of fool. > > > > > > Apparently he is insane. ?We are not going to get a rational response > > > > > out of him; it is just not in him. > > > > > > snip > > > > > Well, the poor little atheists do not want to answer questions about > > > > their beliefs. Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted February 18, 2007 Posted February 18, 2007 On Feb 17, 11:03�pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Feb 16, 10:43?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > > rbwinn wrote: > > > > On Feb 13, 5:48?pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > > > > On 13 Feb 2007 16:39:50 -0800, in alt.atheism > > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in > > > > > <1171413590.219240.10...@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>: > > > > > > >On Feb 12, 9:25 am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > > >> On 12 Feb., 03:23, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > >> > On Feb 11, 4:10?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > >> > > ?Not even just one? > > > > > > >> > > Damn, you'd think with all that omnipotence and ego, at least one god > > > > > >> > > would make itself known. > > > > > > >> > Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible? > > > > > >> > Robert B. Winn > > > > > > >> Why, don't you have any evidence to offer? > > > > > > >All things that exist show that there is a God. > > > > > > So you assert without any kind of support at all. > > > > > > >So why is it that you > > > > > >do not want to read the Bible? > > > > > > I've read it.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > What did you think of the book of Isaiah? > > > > Robert B. Winn > > > > I think the book of Isaiah has turned Robert Winn into a 'kook' > > > > That's what i think- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > Are you trying to say that you do not like the book of Isaiah, Bob. > > What is the matter, don't you enjoy reading something intelligent? > > Robert B. Winn > > I mean what I say, Quote
Guest Free Lunch Posted February 18, 2007 Posted February 18, 2007 On 18 Feb 2007 07:56:09 -0800, in alt.atheism "rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in <1171814169.114437.41870@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>: >On Feb 17, 10:36?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >> > On Feb 17, 12:59?pm, "Bill M" <w...@bellsouth.net> wrote: >> > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message >> >> > >news:1171521149.118439.271150@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... >> > > On Feb 14, 9:21?pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> >> > > > On 14 Feb 2007 18:59:33 -0800, in alt.atheism >> > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in >> > > > <1171508373.435033.309...@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>: >> >> > > > >On Feb 14, 5:24?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote: >> > > > >> On Feb 14, 6:44 pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> >> > > > >> > On 14 Feb 2007 15:16:18 -0800, in alt.atheism >> > > > >> > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in >> > > > >> > <1171494978.705022.208...@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>: >> >> > > > >> > ... >> >> > > > >> > >Well, that is a myth that atheists like to tell. incoln said on >> > > > >> > >several occasions that he believed the Bible. >> >> > > > >> > Source with complete context please. >> >> > > > >> You'll never get it, not anything genuine. >> >> > > > >> Our religious kook might give you a forgery, as David Barton did in >> > > > >> his book. >> >> > > > forged quote of Lincoln is making its rounds in usenet at>> this very >> > > > moment. t recommends hunting down and hanging anyone >> > > > >> critical of the war effort. >> >> > > > pundit has already confessed that he is >> >> > > > >> the author of the quote. >> >> > > > >> The fraud was perpetrated by one of the Moonie rags, either the Moonie >> > > > >> Times or that bag of internet lies called _Insight Magazine._ >> >> > > > >Well, why don't you atheists just wait until after the resurrection >> > > > >and ask Abraham Lincoln in person if he believed the Bible? >> > > > >I see no reason to worry about it myself. >> >> > > > Because you know that you have absolutely no evidence at all that there >> > > > is going to be a resurrection, yet you keep trying to duck questions >> > > > with your silly incantation.- Hide quoted text - >> >> > > Jesus Christ was resurrected. �hat is all the evidence we need. >> > > Robert B. Winn >> >> > > You do not seem to understand the difference between a claim, a fable and >> > > objective verifiable evidence!- Hide quoted text - >> >> > I can tell, Bill. �ables are stories that give animals human >> > characteristics, sort of like the theory of evolution. The Apostle >> > Paul said that......... >> >> .....irresponsible childish nonsense - there is no way in this world that we >> have any idea what a so called 'apostle' was supposed to have said over two >> thousand years ago....... grow up >> >> By the way, apostles and prophets were all charlatans as they got up and claimed >> [or wrote claiming] that they had a direct link with a god - they were all lying >> through their teeth. >> >> So much for apostles ! >> >No, apostles and prophets were called of God to testify of Christ. So you claim, but you have absolutely no evidence to support your claim. >I know this seems incredible to a person like you who has only >associated with atheists and other dishonest people. You lie in almost every single post you make. This is just another of your lies. Quote
Guest Free Lunch Posted February 18, 2007 Posted February 18, 2007 On 18 Feb 2007 08:00:59 -0800, in alt.atheism "rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in <1171814459.115538.174970@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>: >On Feb 17, 11:02?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >> > On Feb 17, 12:23?pm, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: >> > > On 17 Feb., 13:22, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >> >> > > > On Feb 16, 2:05?pm, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: >> >> > > > > On 16 Feb., 04:57, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote:> rbwinn wrote: >> > > > > > > On Feb 15, 2:52?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: >> > > > > > > > On 15 Feb., 00:54, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:> On Feb 13, 11:48?pm, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: >> >> > > > > snip >> >> > > > > > > > > Well, let's get right to it. ?In what way do you acknowedge that the >> > > > > > > > > Bible exists? ?Bob has a list that he keeps posting. ?Does the Bible >> > > > > > > > > exist the same way something on Bob's list exists? >> >> > > > > > > > And the twit continues to make a fool of himself. >> > > > > > > So what is the cause of your reluctance to answer the question? ?Bob >> > > > > > > has a list of evil spirits that he claims exist in the world. ?Does >> > > > > > > the Bible have an existence like something on Bob's list or is the >> > > > > > > Bible tangible? >> >> > > > > > You must be some kind of fool. >> >> > > > > Apparently he is insane. ?We are not going to get a rational response >> > > > > out of him; it is just not in him. >> >> > > > > snip >> >> > > > Well, the poor little atheists do not want to answer questions about >> > > > their beliefs. �hat is because they do not have any beliefs, only >> > > > criticisms of the beliefs of others. >> >> > > Poor boobie, he just can't help lying.- Hide quoted text - >> >> > > - Show quoted text - >> >> > Isaiah 2:6 �herefore thou hast forsaken thy people the house of >> > Jacob, "ecause they be replentished from the east, and are >> > soothsayers like the Philistines, and they please themselves in the >> > children of strangers. >> > Robert B. Winn >> >> I <PLONKED> this fool Robert a couple of weeks ago >> and here I am reading his rubbish for a secondtime >> >> <REPLONKED>- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > >And atheists say that the book of Isaiah has no effect on them. They don't. You are a fool. You have no idea what you are talking about. -- "Now, it is a disgraceful and dangerous thing for an infidel to hear a Christian, presumably giving the meaning of Holy Scripture, talking nonsense on these topics; and we should take all means to prevent such an embarrassing situation, in which people show up vast ignorance in a Christian and laugh it to scorn." -- Augustine, The Literal Meaning of Genesis Quote
Guest Free Lunch Posted February 18, 2007 Posted February 18, 2007 On 18 Feb 2007 08:01:50 -0800, in alt.atheism "rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in <1171814510.369490.138040@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>: >On Feb 17, 11:03?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >> > On Feb 16, 10:43?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: >> > > rbwinn wrote: >> > > > On Feb 13, 5:48?pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> > > > > On 13 Feb 2007 16:39:50 -0800, in alt.atheism >> > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in >> > > > > <1171413590.219240.10...@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>: >> >> > > > > >On Feb 12, 9:25 am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: >> > > > > >> On 12 Feb., 03:23, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >> >> > > > > >> > On Feb 11, 4:10?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote: >> >> > > > > >> > > ?Not even just one? >> >> > > > > >> > > Damn, you'd think with all that omnipotence and ego, at least one god >> > > > > >> > > would make itself known. >> >> > > > > >> > Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible? >> > > > > >> > Robert B. Winn >> >> > > > > >> Why, don't you have any evidence to offer? >> >> > > > > >All things that exist show that there is a God. >> >> > > > > So you assert without any kind of support at all. >> >> > > > > >So why is it that you >> > > > > >do not want to read the Bible? >> >> > > > > I've read it.- Hide quoted text - >> >> > > > > - Show quoted text - >> >> > > > What did you think of the book of Isaiah? >> > > > Robert B. Winn >> >> > > I think the book of Isaiah has turned Robert Winn into a 'kook' >> >> > > That's what i think- Hide quoted text - >> >> > > - Show quoted text - >> >> > Are you trying to say that you do not like the book of Isaiah, Bob. >> > What is the matter, don't you enjoy reading something intelligent? >> > Robert B. Winn >> >> I mean what I say, ) do not 'read anything between the lines' >> >> <REPLONKED>- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > >If all Christians would quote from the book of Isaiah, atheism would >cease to exist. Nothing in Isaiah supports Christianity. Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted February 18, 2007 Posted February 18, 2007 On Feb 17, 11:53�pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > jl wrote: > > On Feb 16, 8:45 pm, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > On Feb 16, 5:01?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > > On 16 Feb., 03:04, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:> On Feb 15, 7:07?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > > snip > > > > > > > > So, Thomas, are your six Bibles tangible, or are they imaginary? ?Did > > > > > > > you just make them up? > > > > > > > Robert B. Winn- > > > > > > > Thank you boobie.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > You are welcome, atheist. ?My Bible is real. ?I will quote to you from > > > > > the book of Isaiah. > > > > > Isaiah 1:6 ?From the sole of the foot even unto the head there is no > > > > > soundness in it; ?but wounds, and bruises, and putrifying sores: ?they > > > > > have not been closed, neither bound up, neither mollified with > > > > > ointment. > > > > > Do you like studying Isaiah, atheist? > > > > > I didn't know your lunacy was so extreme. ?Why do you think the Book > > > > of Isaiah would bother me at all? ? I have now read the Catholic Douay > > > > translation, the King James version and the Danish translation of > > > > Luther's German Bible. ?Nothing special happened. > > > > Well, here is another opportunity to read some verses from Isaiah. > > > I could just tell you were going to get interested in the Bible. > > > Isaiah 1:18 Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted February 18, 2007 Posted February 18, 2007 On Feb 18, 3:57�am, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Feb 16, 2:19�pm, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > On 16 Feb., 15:20, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote:> On Feb 15, 8:57 pm, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Feb 15, 7:01?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > snip > > > > > > You forgot about Isaiah. > > > > > Isaiah 1:4 Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted February 18, 2007 Posted February 18, 2007 On Feb 18, 4:02�am, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Feb 13, 4:27�pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > On Feb 12, 10:41 pm, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > Quote
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