Guest bob young Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 Pastor Frank wrote: > "Free Lunch" <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message > news:bedkt25jc2k340fjstt9r0ftctvkun83ns@4ax.com... > > On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 14:36:48 +0800, in alt.atheism > > "Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.edu> wrote in > > <45d8c8cc$0$16329$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>: > >> > >> Thanks for proving my point. So you disbelieve what I just said, as > >>usual, and are now claiming that atheism is a belief system, instead of a > >>disbelief system. Let's see you prove that. Either prove it, or admit > >>your > >>just lying for atheism again. > > > > You are the one who calls atheism a belief system. I call you on your > > lie. Atheism is not a form of belief. Lack of belief is not a system. > > You know that. You appear to like lying. Why is that? > > > Why is what? You proved no "lie". I agreed with you above, that atheism > is not a belief system. It's however a DISbelief system, for you are forever > listing all the things you don't believe and never get around to telling us > anything about what you DO believe. I believe that a fair proportion of religionists demonstrate constantly that they are liars and charlatans. That's what I believe > > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Quote
Guest bob young Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 Pastor Frank wrote: > "Free Lunch" <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message > news:vgdkt2pkuomjvr3nc963ffha8lqcnafo9c@4ax.com... > > On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 09:07:20 +0800, in alt.atheism > > "Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.edu> wrote in > > <45d9c67d$0$16269$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>: > >>"Paul Ransom Erickson" <prerickson@houston.rr.com> wrote in message > >>news:n83ft2l51m41jk686v172i57t3i2invsbp@4ax.com... > >>> On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 06:14:54 +0800, "Pastor Frank" > >>> <PF@christfirst.edu> wrote: > >>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message > >>>>> news:1171374673.776239.100670@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > >>>>> > >>>>> What is it that you think you are going to accomplish by making all of > >>>>> these lists of things you do not believe? > >>>>> Do you have any lists of things you believe? > >>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>> > >>>> Atheists believe that by listing all they don't believe, what's left > >>>>over MUST be the truth. Unfortunately for them, there are an infinite > >>>>number > >>>>of things which are not true, and very few thing which are true. So they > >>>>will never reach that desired end. Not only that, but because atheists > >>>>look > >>>>only for what is untrue and lies, were they to come across the truth > >>>>they > >>>>would miss it altogether. > >>> > >>> As usual, you think you know all about "athsists" based on your own > >>> past. I bet you haven't really changed much. > >>> > >> I changed from a self-justified sinner, to a repentant one. > > > > Your actions show the behavior of self-righteous man with no humility. > > > You again forgot to quote the statement of mine which evidences your > accusation. But even if you are right, tell us how do YOUR actions compare? > But then perhaps you are running short of self-esteem again, and try to > garner as many inferiors to yourself as possible, so as to contrast yourself > favourably and give you that boost you crave? Nothing compares with common sense, logic, openness and transparency. Try it sometime Frank > > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Quote
Guest bob young Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 rbwinn wrote: > On Feb 16, 7:10�pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > On 16 Feb 2007 17:53:22 -0800, in alt.atheism > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in > > <1171677202.265303.67...@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>: > > > > > > > > > > > > >On Feb 16, 5:52?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > >> On 16 Feb., 13:17, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:> On Feb 13, 6:31?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > >> > > On 13 Feb., 14:03, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > >> > > > On Feb 12, 9:21?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > > > >> snip > > > > >> > > What we do not have is any evidence of any miracle.- Hide quoted text - > > > > >> > > - Show quoted text - > > > > >> > Well, if you had been one of the people in Jerusalem at thattime, you > > >> > might have seen it a little differently. Quote
Guest bob young Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 rbwinn wrote: > On Feb 18, 4:26�am, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > rbwinn wrote: > > > On Feb 16, 5:52�am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > On 16 Feb., 13:17, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:> On Feb 13, 6:31?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > > > > > On 13 Feb., 14:03, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Feb 12, 9:21?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > > > > > snip > > > > > > > > What we do not have is any evidence of any miracle.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > Well, if you had been one of the people in Jerusalem at thattime, you > > > > > might have seen it a little differently. Quote
Guest Michael Gray Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 On 22 Feb 2007 23:18:01 -0600, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote: - Refer: <45DE7890.EB33D1FB@netvigator.com> > > >Pastor Frank wrote: > >> "Free Lunch" <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message >> news:bedkt25jc2k340fjstt9r0ftctvkun83ns@4ax.com... >> > On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 14:36:48 +0800, in alt.atheism >> > "Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.edu> wrote in >> > <45d8c8cc$0$16329$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>: >> >> >> >> Thanks for proving my point. So you disbelieve what I just said, as >> >>usual, and are now claiming that atheism is a belief system, instead of a >> >>disbelief system. Let's see you prove that. Either prove it, or admit >> >>your >> >>just lying for atheism again. >> > >> > You are the one who calls atheism a belief system. I call you on your >> > lie. Atheism is not a form of belief. Lack of belief is not a system. >> > You know that. You appear to like lying. Why is that? >> > >> Why is what? You proved no "lie". I agreed with you above, that atheism >> is not a belief system. It's however a DISbelief system, for you are forever >> listing all the things you don't believe and never get around to telling us >> anything about what you DO believe. > >I believe that a fair proportion of religionists demonstrate constantly that >they are liars and >charlatans. That's what I believe I do NOT believe that. Unless by "fair proprtion", you mean exactly 100% -- Quote
Guest bob young Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 Michael Gray wrote: > On 22 Feb 2007 23:18:01 -0600, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> > wrote: > - Refer: <45DE7890.EB33D1FB@netvigator.com> > > > > > >Pastor Frank wrote: > > > >> "Free Lunch" <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message > >> news:bedkt25jc2k340fjstt9r0ftctvkun83ns@4ax.com... > >> > On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 14:36:48 +0800, in alt.atheism > >> > "Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.edu> wrote in > >> > <45d8c8cc$0$16329$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>: > >> >> > >> >> Thanks for proving my point. So you disbelieve what I just said, as > >> >>usual, and are now claiming that atheism is a belief system, instead of a > >> >>disbelief system. Let's see you prove that. Either prove it, or admit > >> >>your > >> >>just lying for atheism again. > >> > > >> > You are the one who calls atheism a belief system. I call you on your > >> > lie. Atheism is not a form of belief. Lack of belief is not a system. > >> > You know that. You appear to like lying. Why is that? > >> > > >> Why is what? You proved no "lie". I agreed with you above, that atheism > >> is not a belief system. It's however a DISbelief system, for you are forever > >> listing all the things you don't believe and never get around to telling us > >> anything about what you DO believe. > > > >I believe that a fair proportion of religionists demonstrate constantly that > >they are liars and > >charlatans. That's what I believe > > I do NOT believe that. > Unless by "fair proprtion", you mean exactly 100% One must allow for the ordinary person longing for security thinking they can find it with an imaginary god, reinforced by following what their parents and grandparents believed. These are not charlatans, the charlatans are the propagators that lie and deceive. > > > -- Quote
Guest bob young Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 rbwinn wrote: > On Feb 16, 6:53�pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > On 16 Feb 2007 16:54:10 -0800, in alt.atheism > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in > > <1171673650.738689.54...@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>: > > > > >On Feb 13, 5:57?pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > >> On 13 Feb 2007 16:54:11 -0800, in alt.atheism > > >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in > > >> <1171414451.120125.63...@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>: > > > > ... > > > > >> >I offered to send you a copy of the Bible. Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 On Feb 22, 9:19�pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Feb 18, 8:57�am, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > > On 18 Feb 2007 07:53:50 -0800, in alt.atheism > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in > > > <1171814030.140365.45...@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>: > > > > >On Feb 17, 10:32?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > > >> Bill M wrote: > > > >> > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > > >> >news:1171521149.118439.271150@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > > >> > On Feb 14, 9:21?pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > > >> > > On 14 Feb 2007 18:59:33 -0800, in alt.atheism > > > >> > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in > > > >> > > <1171508373.435033.309...@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>: > > > > >> > > >On Feb 14, 5:24?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > >> > > >> On Feb 14, 6:44 pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > > > >> > > >> > On 14 Feb 2007 15:16:18 -0800, in alt.atheism > > > >> > > >> > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in > > > >> > > >> > <1171494978.705022.208...@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>: > > > > >> > > >> > ... > > > > >> > > >> > >Well, that is a myth that atheists like to tell. incoln said on > > > >> > > >> > >several occasions that he believed the Bible. > > > > >> > > >> > Source with complete context please. > > > > >> > > >> You'll never get it, not anything genuine. > > > > >> > > >> Our religious kook might give you a forgery, as David Barton did in > > > >> > > >> his book. > > > > >> > > forged quote of Lincoln is making its rounds in usenet at>> this very > > > >> > > moment. Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 On Feb 22, 9:21�pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Feb 18, 10:09�pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > > rbwinn wrote: > > > > On Feb 17, 10:32�pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > > > > Bill M wrote: > > > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > > > > >news:1171521149.118439.271150@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > On Feb 14, 9:21?pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > > > > > > On 14 Feb 2007 18:59:33 -0800, in alt.atheism > > > > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in > > > > > > > <1171508373.435033.309...@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>: > > > > > > > > >On Feb 14, 5:24?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > > >> On Feb 14, 6:44 pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > > > > > > > >> > On 14 Feb 2007 15:16:18 -0800, in alt.atheism > > > > > > > >> > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in > > > > > > > >> > <1171494978.705022.208...@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>: > > > > > > > > >> > ... > > > > > > > > >> > >Well, that is a myth that atheists like to tell. incoln said on > > > > > > > >> > >several occasions that he believed the Bible. > > > > > > > > >> > Source with complete context please. > > > > > > > > >> You'll never get it, not anything genuine. > > > > > > > > >> Our religious kook might give you a forgery, as David Barton did in > > > > > > > >> his book. > > > > > > > > forged quote of Lincoln is making its rounds in usenet at>> this very > > > > > > > moment. Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 On Feb 22, 9:28�pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > On 22 Feb 2007 19:19:49 -0800, in alt.atheism > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in > <1172200789.128447.246...@t69g2000cwt.googlegroups.com>: > > > > > > >On Feb 18, 8:57?am, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> On 18 Feb 2007 07:53:50 -0800, in alt.atheism > >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in > >> <1171814030.140365.45...@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>: > > >> >On Feb 17, 10:32?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > >> >> Bill M wrote: > >> >> > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > >> >> >news:1171521149.118439.271150@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > >> >> > On Feb 14, 9:21?pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> >> > > On 14 Feb 2007 18:59:33 -0800, in alt.atheism > >> >> > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in > >> >> > > <1171508373.435033.309...@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>: > > >> >> > > >On Feb 14, 5:24?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > >> >> > > >> On Feb 14, 6:44 pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > >> >> > > >> > On 14 Feb 2007 15:16:18 -0800, in alt.atheism > >> >> > > >> > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in > >> >> > > >> > <1171494978.705022.208...@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>: > > >> >> > > >> > ... > > >> >> > > >> > >Well, that is a myth that atheists like to tell. incoln said on > >> >> > > >> > >several occasions that he believed the Bible. > > >> >> > > >> > Source with complete context please. > > >> >> > > >> You'll never get it, not anything genuine. > > >> >> > > >> Our religious kook might give you a forgery, as David Barton did in > >> >> > > >> his book. > > >> >> > > forged quote of Lincoln is making its rounds in usenet at>> this very > >> >> > > moment. 4 recommends hunting down and hanging anyone > >> >> > > >> critical of the war effort. > > >> >> > > pundit has already confessed that he is > > >> >> > > >> the author of the quote. > > >> >> > > >> The fraud was perpetrated by one of the Moonie rags, either the Moonie > >> >> > > >> Times or that bag of internet lies called _Insight Magazine._ > > >> >> > > >Well, why don't you atheists just wait until after the resurrection > >> >> > > >and ask Abraham Lincoln in person if he believed the Bible? > >> >> > > >I see no reason to worry about it myself. > > >> >> > > Because you know that you have absolutely no evidence at all that there > >> >> > > is going to be a resurrection, yet you keep trying to duck questions > >> >> > > with your silly incantation.- Hide quoted text - > > >> >> > Jesus Christ was resurrected. (at is all the evidence we need. > >> >> > Robert B. Winn > > >> >> > You do not seem to understand the difference between a claim, a fable and > >> >> > objective verifiable evidence! > > >> >> He only accepts what his mummy told him, forgetting that her mummy told her > >> >> and then her mummy told her and 'ad infinitum' - well not exactly, as sooner > >> >> or later we reach back to a small group of primitives that made the myth up in > >> >> the first place. > > >> >> It's s hard to accept the fact that one's parents and grandparents were > >> >> telling unsubstantiated yarns - maybe for the best possible reasons, but > >> >> 'yarns' nevertheless- Hide quoted text - > > >> >> - Show quoted text - > > >> >So when Jesus Christ said that he was not the offspring of monkeys, > >> >you claim that he was telling a "yarn"? > > >> Since Jesus never said that, you are the one telling a tall tale. Still, > >> when it comes to science, it doesn't really matter what someone claims > >> Jesus said. The people who were writing these stories about Jesus had no > >> idea about common descent or evolution. I would be impressed with the > >> Bible if it had actually talked about it, but it doesn't.- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > >Well, actually, it does. Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 On Feb 22, 9:29�pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > On 22 Feb 2007 19:53:52 -0800, in alt.atheism > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in > <1172202832.147991.191...@8g2000cwh.googlegroups.com>: > > > > >On Feb 19, 8:18?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >> > On Feb 18, 10:37?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > >> > > rbwinn wrote: > >> > > > On Feb 14, 4:44?pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> > > > > On 14 Feb 2007 15:16:18 -0800, in alt.atheism > >> > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in > >> > > > > <1171494978.705022.208...@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>: > > >> > > > > ... > > >> > > > > >Well, that is a myth that atheists like to tell. Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 On Feb 22, 9:44�pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Feb 15, 9:08�pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > > rbwinn wrote: > > > > On Feb 15, 6:46�am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > > On 15 Feb., 13:22, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:> On Feb 15, 2:17?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > > > > > On 15 Feb., 00:29, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Feb 13, 8:34?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > > > > > snip > > > > > > > > > Well, Bob, does the Bible exist or not? ?You say whether it exists. > > > > > > > > Don't try to call me a liar just because I called your bluff. > > > > > > > > You are a liar. ?You said that I and others claimed the Bible did not > > > > > > > exist. ?Not only was that a lie, it was incredibly silly. ?You called > > > > > > > nobody's bluff; you just told a silly lie.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > You are still claiming that the Bible does not exist. Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 On Feb 22, 9:44�pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Feb 19, 8:18�pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > > rbwinn wrote: > > > > On Feb 18, 10:37�pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > > > > rbwinn wrote: > > > > > > On Feb 14, 4:44�pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > > > > > > On 14 Feb 2007 15:16:18 -0800, in alt.atheism > > > > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in > > > > > > > <1171494978.705022.208...@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>: > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > >Well, that is a myth that atheists like to tell. Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 On Feb 22, 9:48�pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > Free Lunch wrote: > > On 22 Feb 2007 04:37:23 -0800, in alt.atheism > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in > > <1172147843.183966.191...@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>: > > >On Feb 16, 6:53?pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > >> On 16 Feb 2007 16:54:10 -0800, in alt.atheism > > >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in > > >> <1171673650.738689.54...@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>: > > > >> >On Feb 13, 5:57?pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > >> >> On 13 Feb 2007 16:54:11 -0800, in alt.atheism > > >> >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in > > >> >> <1171414451.120125.63...@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>: > > > >> ... > > > >> >> >I offered to send you a copy of the Bible. /u have consistently > > >> >> >maintained that the Bible does not exist. > > > >> >> How many more times will you repeat that lie.- Hide quoted text - > > > >> >You atheists all play the same game. Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 On Feb 22, 9:49�pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Feb 17, 10:56�pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > > rbwinn wrote: > > > > On Feb 17, 7:17�am, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > > > > On 17 Feb 2007 04:32:59 -0800, in alt.atheism > > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in > > > > > <1171715579.252212.188...@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>: > > > > > > >On Feb 16, 10:09?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > > > > >> rbwinn wrote: > > > > > >> > On Feb 13, 5:57?pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > > > > ... > > > > > >> > > How many more times will you repeat that lie.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > >> > You atheists all play the same game. Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 On Feb 22, 9:51�pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Feb 17, 10:52?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > > rbwinn wrote: > > > > On Feb 16, 10:09?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > > > > rbwinn wrote: > > > > > > On Feb 13, 5:57?pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > > > > > > On 13 Feb 2007 16:54:11 -0800, in alt.atheism > > > > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in > > > > > > > <1171414451.120125.63...@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>: > > > > > > > > >On Feb 13, 2:10 am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > > > > >> On 13 Feb., 05:09, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > >> > On Feb 12, 8:51?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > >> > > rbwinn wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > On Feb 11, 9:50?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > rbwinn wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > On Feb 11, 4:10?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > ?Not even just one? > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Damn, you'd think with all that omnipotence and ego, at least one god > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > would make itself known. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible? > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Robert B. Winn > > > > > > > > >> > > > > Where WOULD yuo people be without your old book of fables and myths. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > Does it never filter through to your brains and past your eye blinkers > > > > > > > >> > > > > [blinders] that is exactly what they are? > > > > > > > > >> > > > > Here's a few other man inspired and produced books: > > > > > > > > >> > > > We were discussing the Bible. ?Why did you want to change the > > > > > > > >> > > > subject? ?Now the Bible says, For God so loved the world that he sent > > > > > > > >> > > > his only Begotten Son. > > > > > > > >> > > > Jesus Christ said that he was the Son of God. > > > > > > > >> > > > Why are you saying that God did not make himself known? > > > > > > > >> > > > Robert B. Winn > > > > > > > > >> > > Because these were simply mythical stories written by near primitives who were > > > > > > > >> > > bored to tears every night with no radio or TV - all they listened to were > > > > > > > >> > > yarns around the evening camp fire told by wandering preachers. > > > > > > > > >> > > The more 'miraculous' his stories were the more free food he got and no doubt, > > > > > > > >> > > an extra drop of wine as well. > > > > > > > > >> > > Nothing changes does it - now the 'story tellers' ?have personal jets and fly > > > > > > > >> > > around the world presenting 'rigged' miracles to packed audiences of > > > > > > > >> > > thousands..... > > > > > > > > >> > > Bob > > > > > > > >> > > Humanist Brit. > > > > > > > > >> > > If priests had not been fond of mutton, lambs never would have been sacrified > > > > > > > >> > > to god. Nothing was ever carried to the temple that the priest could not use, > > > > > > > >> > > and it always happened that god wanted what his agents liked." > > > > > > > >> > > [Robert G. Ingersoll] > > > > > > > > >> > > As the caterpiller chooses the fairest leaves to lay her eggs on, so the > > > > > > > >> > > priest lays his curse on the fairest joys. > > > > > > > >> > > [William Blake]- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > >> > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > >> > Well, of course, you are welcome to your own opinion. ?Why don't you > > > > > > > >> > explain your ideas to Jesus Christ when he returns to judge the earth? > > > > > > > >> > Robert B. Winn- Skjul tekst i anf?rselstegn - > > > > > > > > >> Well, of course, you are welcome to present evidence that your > > > > > > > >> religious beliefs are true. ?Until then, there is no reason to believe > > > > > > > >> you. > > > > > > > > >I offered to send you a copy of the Bible. ?You have consistently > > > > > > > >maintained that the Bible does not exist. > > > > > > > > How many more times will you repeat that lie.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > You atheists all play the same game. ?If you want to claim the Bible > > > > > > does not exist go ahead and say it does not exist. > > > > > > Robert B. Winn > > > > > > Well Christian 'Nut cases' sure do- Hide quoted text - > > > > > Well, here is a verse from Isaiah to cheer you up, Bob. > > > > Isaiah 1:25 ?And I will turn my hand upon thee, and purely purge > > > > thy dross, and take away all thy tin. > > > > Robert B. Winn > > > > The scribblings of a doubtful primitive propping up his old myth is supposed to scare me ? > > > > ROFL > > > > What scares me are the lengths that religionists will go [killing others] to propagate their > > > silly beliefs. > > > > I hope you are not numbered among them, but bleieve me there are plenty of them out there, > > > flying planes into buildings and doing stuff like that.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > One of your fellow atheists was telling me of a terrible religionist > > named Josef Stalin who attended seminary classes when he was a youth > > and learned to kill people. Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 On Feb 22, 9:52�pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > "thomas p." wrote: > > On 15 Feb., 00:54, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > On Feb 13, 11:48?pm, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > snip > > > > > > I offered to send you a copy of the Bible. ?You have consistently > > > > > maintained that the Bible does not exist. > > > > > Poor little Bobby thinks that repeating inane lies accomplishes > > > > something besides making him look like a fool.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > Well, let's get right to it. Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 On Feb 22, 10:07�pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Feb 15, 8:43�pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > > rbwinn wrote: > > > > On Feb 15, 7:06�am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > > On 15 Feb., 13:52, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 15, 4:35?am, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > rbwinn wrote: > > > > > > > > On Feb 13, 8:37?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Free Lunch wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On 13 Feb 2007 16:39:50 -0800, in alt.atheism > > > > > > > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in > > > > > > > > > > <1171413590.219240.10...@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>: > > > > > > > > > > >On Feb 12, 9:25 am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >> On 12 Feb., 03:23, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> > On Feb 11, 4:10?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > ?Not even just one? > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > Damn, you'd think with all that omnipotence and ego, at least one god > > > > > > > > > > >> > > would make itself known. > > > > > > > > > > > >> > Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible? > > > > > > > > > > >> > Robert B. Winn > > > > > > > > > > > >> Why, don't you have any evidence to offer? > > > > > > > > > > > >All things that exist show that there is a God. > > > > > > > > > > [i must remember to add that 'little gem' to my list of > > > > > > > > > 'Religious propagator's backs to the wall cop-out's] > > > > > > > > > Well, Bob, you were willing to provide us with a list of evil > > > > > > > > spirits. ?Why don't you make a list for us of the things that do not > > > > > > > > show that there is a God? > > > > > > > > Robert B. Winn > > > > > > > > with pleasure > > > > > > > > [Preface] > > > > > > > > "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one > > > > > > > fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible > > > > > > > gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." > > > > > > > [stephen Roberts] > > > > > > > Well, there is really no such thing as an atheist. Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 On Feb 22, 10:22�pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Feb 16, 7:10�pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > > On 16 Feb 2007 17:53:22 -0800, in alt.atheism > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in > > > <1171677202.265303.67...@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>: > > > > >On Feb 16, 5:52?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > >> On 16 Feb., 13:17, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:> On Feb 13, 6:31?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > >> > > On 13 Feb., 14:03, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > >> > > > On Feb 12, 9:21?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > > > >> snip > > > > >> > > What we do not have is any evidence of any miracle.- Hide quoted text - > > > > >> > > - Show quoted text - > > > > >> > Well, if you had been one of the people in Jerusalem at thattime, you > > > >> > might have seen it a little differently. Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 On Feb 22, 10:24�pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Feb 18, 4:26�am, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > > rbwinn wrote: > > > > On Feb 16, 5:52�am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > > On 16 Feb., 13:17, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:> On Feb 13, 6:31?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > > > > > On 13 Feb., 14:03, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Feb 12, 9:21?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > > > > > snip > > > > > > > > What we do not have is any evidence of any miracle.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > Well, if you had been one of the people in Jerusalem at thattime, you > > > > > > might have seen it a little differently. Quote
Guest jl Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 On Feb 21, 2:42 pm, "D...@V.A." <d...@bellsouth.net> wrote: [...] > > > Where is your evidence that they are Christian? >> > Do you imply that > > > > >other Christians condone the practice of polygamy? > > > > > That wasn't your claim. > > > > They worship three different gods > > > So do all the other Christians. They worship Jesus, God, and the > > Holy Spirit, all three separate entities. > > You don't know what you are talking about. An analogy is water. > It can be liquid, gas or solid. But it still one. Same with the Christian > concept of their God. I know my bible enough, having read it through several times, and having been raised the son of a baptist minister and grandson of missionaries, that there are three separate and distinct entity deities in the kjv and the nuts who believe all that malarkey are foolish enough to say it's ONE god, when there are THREE. You fundies don't even know simple arithmetic. So much for your hokey analogy. You get to God thru Jeezus, Danny. So saith the bible, a little like you get to Allah thru Mohammed. Jeezus is not God; Jeezus is God's son, and the Holy Spirit is the stud who came down and jumped in the sack with Mary. God didn't even perform the stud service; he had his brother the Holy Spirit do it. At least the Greeks and Romans with their demi-god messiahs, the Caesars, for example, claimed that a god and a mortal copulated to make a demi-god, a messiah. The Christians, I believe, toned it down a little, since in the case of the pagans there was a rape. So the Christians used a ghost to make the act a little less unsavory, although to be fair we should admit that Joseph was cuckolded and it was a sort of immaculate adultery. But then they had to fix that by having Mary and Joseph, who were apparently together at the time, betrothed but not yet married. Three Gods are not one, Danny. And as a matter of fact the moozle-ums have credible arithmetic on the question of monotheism. Quote
Guest jl Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 On Feb 21, 7:10 pm, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: [regarding the 6th Amendment right to jury trial] > This all dates back to a minority opinion written by Thurgood Marshall > that the sixth amendment did not really guarantee right to trial by > jury. > After that, state courts began denying right to trial by jury until we > have reached the present condition where very few people are actually > given an opportunity to have a trial by jury. I don't believe you. What's the citation for that Thurgood Marshall opinion? And what state or states do you refer to which deny the right to jury trial in a criminal prosecution? Quote
Guest jl Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 On Feb 21, 10:46 pm, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > On Feb 21, 5:40?pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: [...] > Do whatever you want to do. A United States citizen cannot go into > court and ask for a trial by jury and get it the way the Constitution > guarantees. The reason for that is that lawyers have set themselves > up as an elite class who decide what rights the rest of us have. > There are some of us non-lawyers who say that lawyers cannot take away > our rights even if they deny them. > Robert B. Winn Cite, cite, cite! Quote
Guest Don Kresch Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 In alt.atheism On 22 Feb 2007 19:19:49 -0800, "rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> let us all know that: >Well, actually, it does. Paul stated that in the last days men would >be turned to fables, being unable to abide sound doctrine. jesus = fable. Don --- aa #51, Knight of BAAWA, DNRC o-, Member of the [H]orde Atheist Minister for St. Dogbert. "No being is so important that he can usurp the rights of another" Picard to Data/Graves "The Schizoid Man" Quote
Guest Don Kresch Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 In alt.atheism On 22 Feb 2007 19:53:52 -0800, "rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> let us all know that: >On Feb 19, 8:18?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >> > On Feb 18, 10:37?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: >> > > rbwinn wrote: >> > > > On Feb 14, 4:44?pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> > > > > On 14 Feb 2007 15:16:18 -0800, in alt.atheism >> > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in >> > > > > <1171494978.705022.208...@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>: >> >> > > > > ... >> >> > > > > >Well, that is a myth that atheists like to tell. �incoln said on >> > > > > >several occasions that he believed the Bible. >> >> > > > > Source with complete context please. >> >> > > > I can give you the original source. �alk to Abraham Lincoln after the >> > > > resurrection. �e can tell you in person. >> > > > Robert B. Winn >> >> > > I am seriously thinking of <plonking> you for the third time - what a >> > > wally- Hide quoted text - >> >> > > - Show quoted text - >> >> > Well, here is a verse from Isaiah. �o need to get irrational. >> > Isaiah 2:17 nd the loftiness of man shall be bowed down, and the >> > haughtiness of men shall be made low: and the Lord alone shall be >> > exalted in that day. >> > Robert B. Winn >> >> Nothing could be MORE irrational than quoting ad infinitum, >> verses from an old book written by one primitive out of a gaggle of >> primitives >> >> Grow up- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > >How about this? Here is someone who thinks that his ancestors were >monkeys telling me to grow up. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Every time a creationist says something like "you believe your ancestors were monkeys", the creationist is exposed as the dumbest fucking person on the planet. Don --- aa #51, Knight of BAAWA, DNRC o-, Member of the [H]orde Atheist Minister for St. Dogbert. "No being is so important that he can usurp the rights of another" Picard to Data/Graves "The Schizoid Man" Quote
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