Guest Michael Gray Posted March 7, 2007 Posted March 7, 2007 On 7 Mar 2007 09:49:42 -0800, "JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote: - Refer: <1173289782.480046.72050@64g2000cwx.googlegroups.com> >rbwinn wrote: >> On Mar 6, 2:21?pm, Sippuuden <s...@macrosoft.net> wrote: >> > Robert, why would you believe that you are somehow exempt from a simple >> > instruction in your manual: to beat a speedy retreat from any place like >> > alt dot atheism where your proselytizing is not welcome, and 'shake the >> > dust of that place off your feet' [don't have anything further to do >> > with it]? >> > >> > Your hypothesis that things in your manual only apply to the original >> > twelve apostles is just the fallacy of ad hoc hypothesis. If they were >> > to apply only to the original twelve apostles then there would be no >> > proselytizing today, would there?- Hide quoted text - >> > >> Who told you I was proselytizing? > >What do YOU think you're doing? Bzzzt! Meaningless question. Bobby is quite incapable of thought. -- Quote
Guest Michael Gray Posted March 7, 2007 Posted March 7, 2007 On 7 Mar 2007 03:31:14 -0800, "rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote: - Refer: <1173267074.002850.40360@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> >On Mar 7, 12:07 am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote: >> On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 13:07:51 -0800, Sippuuden <s...@macrosoft.net> >> wrote: >> - Refer: <19idnSxmGoq1RXDYnZ2dnUVZ_qmpn...@comcast.com> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Michael Gray wrote: >> >> On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 19:13:03 -0800, Sippuuden <s...@macrosoft.net> >> >> wrote: >> >> - Refer: <j6SdnbyJ15LcQXHYnZ2dnUVZ_uXin...@comcast.com> >> >>> rbwinn wrote: >> >>>> On Mar 5, 11:48?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: >> >>>>> On 4 Mar., 17:21, "H. Wm. Esque" <HEs...@bellsouth.net> wrote:> "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote in message >> >> >>>>>>news:1173018520.978855.246000@64g2000cwx.googlegroups.com... >> >>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >> >>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 12:05?am, "H. Wm. Esque" <HEs...@bellsouth.net> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>> "Scott Richter" <scottrichter...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> >>>>> snip >> >> >>>>>>> Matthew 10:14 >> >>>>>>> And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye >> >>>>>>> depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet. >> >>>>>> Christians who do not heed this verse are in violation of the very >> >>>>>> faith they profess. There is no Biblical authorization to "shove ones >> >>>>>> religion down the throat of another person". An atheist who wants >> >>>>>> a defense against over-bearing proselytizers should be able to >> >>>>>> point to this verse as a defense >> >>>>> We have, and, just like you and the inane champion of the world >> >>>>> (little Winn), they ignore it. >> >>>> Well, as I told you before, that was Christ's instruction to his >> >>>> twelve apostles. I am not an apostle. >> >>>> I am just an ordinary person quoting verses from Isaiah. >> >>>> Robert B. Winn >> >> >>> Logical fallacy of ad hoc hypothesis: >> >> >>> "An ad hoc hypothesis is one created to explain away facts that seem to >> >>> refute one's theory." -- http://skepdic.com/adhoc.html >> >> >> One has to actually have a theory in the first place. >> >> Bobby has only crazed schizophrenic ramblings. >> >> >He has a 'theory' [using the term very loosely] that he is not bound by >> >instructions in his manual to beat a speedy retreat from alt.atheism. >> >The facts seem to refute his theory. That's why he resorts to the >> >logical fallacy of ad hoc hypothesis, to try to explain away the facts >> >that seem to refute his theory. >> >> >Now he resorts to another one, that the term, 'ad hoc' is not an >> >acceptable English term. Go figure. >> >> I have figured. >> He is clinically insane. >> >> The prosecution rests, m'lud. >> >That one has already been tried. So what is your theory, that mental >patients are provided with computers nowadays? Obviously they are, although I think that you sneak into the Nurses station while they are at lunch. >Robert B. Winn -- Quote
Guest Michael Gray Posted March 7, 2007 Posted March 7, 2007 On 7 Mar 2007 03:36:33 -0800, "rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote: - Refer: <1173267393.091966.165640@30g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> >On Mar 7, 12:09?am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote: >> On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 21:53:34 -0800, scottrichter...@yahoo.com (ScottRichter) wrote: >> >> - Refer: <1hukpsp.1pxrmuu1t335k3N%scottrichter...@yahoo.com> >> >> >> >> >> >> >rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >> >> >> > > Why don't you explain it to Jesus Christ when he returns to judge the >> >> > > earth? >> >> >> > That's so adorable! You think some guy who lived 2000 years ago (if he >> >> > existed at all) is going to "return to judge the earth"? It's just too >> >> > cute for words! >> >> >> > No, wait... You're an ADULT, right? Hmmm, scratch what I said, it's not >> >> > cute at all, it's just ridiculous. >> >> >> Well, Scot, I would not be the one to discuss your idea with. �hy >> >> don't you take an opportunity to discuss it with Jesus Christ after he >> >> returns to judge the earth? >> >> >Like I said, a grown man saying these things: ridiculous. >> >> >Here's a tip, Skippy. For a threat to work, the person at whom the >> >threat is directed has to believe the threat is real. Otherwise, you >> >come across like a four year old child trying to scare his parents by >> >claiming a monster is in the closet. >> >> >Does any of this make sense to you? >> >> Too many big words. >> Too much threatening reality. >> Too much sanity for pathetic little Bobby. >> >You sound like an atheist searching for a verse from Isaiah. Bloody hell, you are truly THICK, Bobby! If you have to quote a pathetically erroneous translation, then it is you who are searching for knowledge. I have read your entire OT in Hebrew, and so don't need Sunday-School homilies from a certifiable ignoramus. Get back to me when you actually have got a clue, or two. -- Quote
Guest stumper Posted March 7, 2007 Posted March 7, 2007 Michael Gray wrote: > stumper wrote: >> Michael Gray wrote: >>> stumper wrote: >>>> Michael Gray wrote: >>>>> stumper wrote: >>>>>> Michael Gray wrote: >>>>>>> stumper wrote: >>>>>>>> Michael Gray wrote: >>>>>>>>> stumper wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Shouldn't you obey the Ten Commandments? >>>>>>>>> Which version? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Which one do you have in mind? >>>>>>> Ve ask ze qvestions here! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There are two versions at least in the Hebrew, many, many more if you >>>>>>> "rely" on the excresent English or Latin translations. >>>>>>> >>>>>> Are you trying to say that >>>>>> you can read Hebrew? >>>>> I can read the Bible in Hebrew, yes. >>>>> >>>>>> Can you speak Aramaic as well? >>>>> I don't "speak" it, but can read it, after a fashion. >>>>> >>>>>> I heard Benny Hinn does. >>>>> Benny Hinn only speaks the pure bullshit language of a heartless >>>>> con-artist. >>>>> He is a criminally fraudulent money vampire who is responsible for >>>>> much suffering and premature death in his single-minded pursuit of the >>>>> dollar. >>>>> He makes Dracula look like Albert Schweitzer. >>>>> >>>> Can God speak Chinese? >>> Which god? >>> >> Do you believe in any? > > No. > Are you familiar with the Christian God? -- ~Stumper Quote
Guest JessHC Posted March 7, 2007 Posted March 7, 2007 Michael Gray wrote: > On 7 Mar 2007 09:49:42 -0800, "JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> > wrote: > - Refer: <1173289782.480046.72050@64g2000cwx.googlegroups.com> > >rbwinn wrote: > >> On Mar 6, 2:21?pm, Sippuuden <s...@macrosoft.net> wrote: > >> > Robert, why would you believe that you are somehow exempt from a simple > >> > instruction in your manual: to beat a speedy retreat from any place like > >> > alt dot atheism where your proselytizing is not welcome, and 'shake the > >> > dust of that place off your feet' [don't have anything further to do > >> > with it]? > >> > > >> > Your hypothesis that things in your manual only apply to the original > >> > twelve apostles is just the fallacy of ad hoc hypothesis. If they were > >> > to apply only to the original twelve apostles then there would be no > >> > proselytizing today, would there?- Hide quoted text - > >> > > >> Who told you I was proselytizing? > > > >What do YOU think you're doing? > > Bzzzt! > Meaningless question. > Bobby is quite incapable of thought. Point taken; I withdraw the question. Quote
Guest JessHC Posted March 7, 2007 Posted March 7, 2007 stumper wrote: > Michael Gray wrote: > > stumper wrote: > >> Michael Gray wrote: > >>> stumper wrote: > >>>> Michael Gray wrote: > >>>>> stumper wrote: > >>>>>> Michael Gray wrote: > >>>>>>> stumper wrote: > >>>>>>>> Michael Gray wrote: > >>>>>>>>> stumper wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Shouldn't you obey the Ten Commandments? > >>>>>>>>> Which version? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Which one do you have in mind? > >>>>>>> Ve ask ze qvestions here! > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> There are two versions at least in the Hebrew, many, many more if you > >>>>>>> "rely" on the excresent English or Latin translations. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> Are you trying to say that > >>>>>> you can read Hebrew? > >>>>> I can read the Bible in Hebrew, yes. > >>>>> > >>>>>> Can you speak Aramaic as well? > >>>>> I don't "speak" it, but can read it, after a fashion. > >>>>> > >>>>>> I heard Benny Hinn does. > >>>>> Benny Hinn only speaks the pure bullshit language of a heartless > >>>>> con-artist. > >>>>> He is a criminally fraudulent money vampire who is responsible for > >>>>> much suffering and premature death in his single-minded pursuit of the > >>>>> dollar. > >>>>> He makes Dracula look like Albert Schweitzer. > >>>>> > >>>> Can God speak Chinese? > >>> Which god? > >>> > >> Do you believe in any? > > > > No. > > Are you familiar with the Christian God? Why do you ask? Quote
Guest Pastor Frank Posted March 7, 2007 Posted March 7, 2007 "thomas p." <tonyofbexar@yahoo.dk> wrote in message news:1173115799.199334.204340@q40g2000cwq.googlegroups.com... > On 4 Mar., 18:27, "H. Wm. Esque" <HEs...@bellsouth.net> wrote: >> "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote in message >> news:1173019052.691420.283990@n33g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... >> > H. Wm. Esque wrote: >> >> > > No Evidence of God?? Is this a claim? If so, whose responsibility >> > > is proof? I would contend there is no way to prove such a >> > > claim, therefore, the claimant would likely attempt to shift the >> > > responsibility to those whom he considers his opponents. >> >> > No, it's more a statement about the absolute dearth of actual, >> > legitimate, objective, verifiable evidence for any deities ever in the >> > universe. >> >> There is no proof. Absolute certainty is not available where the >> Deity is concerned. > > Why mention proof? Nobody asked for proof? > >> People of faith accept the Existence of God as a matter of faith, >> and not because of hard empirical evidence. If this is what is >> demanded by you, then you are demanding this of God because >> he has not provided it. > > Evidence is asked for not proof, and it is not asked of god. > God provided the evidence in Jesus Christ giving His blameless life for us sinners on the cross of Calvary, for our "God is love" (1 John 4:8,16) and Jesus Christ proved HIS love for others. Are we evidencing our God? See below refs Pastor Frank 1Jn:4:8: He that loveth not, knoweth not God; for GOD IS LOVE. 1Jn:4:16: And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. GOD IS LOVE; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Quote
Guest stumper Posted March 7, 2007 Posted March 7, 2007 JessHC wrote: > stumper wrote: >> Michael Gray wrote: >>> stumper wrote: >>>> Michael Gray wrote: >>>>> stumper wrote: >>>>>> Michael Gray wrote: >>>>>>> stumper wrote: >>>>>>>> Michael Gray wrote: >>>>>>>>> stumper wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Michael Gray wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> stumper wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Shouldn't you obey the Ten Commandments? >>>>>>>>>>> Which version? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Which one do you have in mind? >>>>>>>>> Ve ask ze qvestions here! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> There are two versions at least in the Hebrew, many, many more if you >>>>>>>>> "rely" on the excresent English or Latin translations. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Are you trying to say that >>>>>>>> you can read Hebrew? >>>>>>> I can read the Bible in Hebrew, yes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can you speak Aramaic as well? >>>>>>> I don't "speak" it, but can read it, after a fashion. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I heard Benny Hinn does. >>>>>>> Benny Hinn only speaks the pure bullshit language of a heartless >>>>>>> con-artist. >>>>>>> He is a criminally fraudulent money vampire who is responsible for >>>>>>> much suffering and premature death in his single-minded pursuit of the >>>>>>> dollar. >>>>>>> He makes Dracula look like Albert Schweitzer. >>>>>>> >>>>>> Can God speak Chinese? >>>>> Which god? >>>>> >>>> Do you believe in any? >>> No. >> Are you familiar with the Christian God? > > Why do you ask? > Just wondering how he can be so certain that the Christian God does not exist. -- ~Stumper Quote
Guest JessHC Posted March 7, 2007 Posted March 7, 2007 stumper wrote: > JessHC wrote: > > stumper wrote: > >> Michael Gray wrote: > >>> stumper wrote: > >>>> Michael Gray wrote: > >>>>> stumper wrote: > >>>>>> Michael Gray wrote: > >>>>>>> stumper wrote: > >>>>>>>> Michael Gray wrote: > >>>>>>>>> stumper wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> Michael Gray wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> stumper wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> Shouldn't you obey the Ten Commandments? > >>>>>>>>>>> Which version? > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Which one do you have in mind? > >>>>>>>>> Ve ask ze qvestions here! > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> There are two versions at least in the Hebrew, many, many more if you > >>>>>>>>> "rely" on the excresent English or Latin translations. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Are you trying to say that > >>>>>>>> you can read Hebrew? > >>>>>>> I can read the Bible in Hebrew, yes. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Can you speak Aramaic as well? > >>>>>>> I don't "speak" it, but can read it, after a fashion. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I heard Benny Hinn does. > >>>>>>> Benny Hinn only speaks the pure bullshit language of a heartless > >>>>>>> con-artist. > >>>>>>> He is a criminally fraudulent money vampire who is responsible for > >>>>>>> much suffering and premature death in his single-minded pursuit of the > >>>>>>> dollar. > >>>>>>> He makes Dracula look like Albert Schweitzer. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> Can God speak Chinese? > >>>>> Which god? > >>>>> > >>>> Do you believe in any? > >>> No. > >> Are you familiar with the Christian God? > > > > Why do you ask? > > Just wondering how he can be so certain that the Christian God does not exist. The exact same way you can be so certain Zeus doesn't exist. Quote
Guest stumper Posted March 7, 2007 Posted March 7, 2007 JessHC wrote: > stumper wrote: >> JessHC wrote: >>> stumper wrote: >>>> Michael Gray wrote: >>>>> stumper wrote: >>>>>> Michael Gray wrote: >>>>>>> stumper wrote: >>>>>>>> Michael Gray wrote: >>>>>>>>> stumper wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Michael Gray wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> stumper wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Gray wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> stumper wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shouldn't you obey the Ten Commandments? >>>>>>>>>>>>> Which version? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Which one do you have in mind? >>>>>>>>>>> Ve ask ze qvestions here! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> There are two versions at least in the Hebrew, many, many more if you >>>>>>>>>>> "rely" on the excresent English or Latin translations. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Are you trying to say that >>>>>>>>>> you can read Hebrew? >>>>>>>>> I can read the Bible in Hebrew, yes. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Can you speak Aramaic as well? >>>>>>>>> I don't "speak" it, but can read it, after a fashion. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I heard Benny Hinn does. >>>>>>>>> Benny Hinn only speaks the pure bullshit language of a heartless >>>>>>>>> con-artist. >>>>>>>>> He is a criminally fraudulent money vampire who is responsible for >>>>>>>>> much suffering and premature death in his single-minded pursuit of the >>>>>>>>> dollar. >>>>>>>>> He makes Dracula look like Albert Schweitzer. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can God speak Chinese? >>>>>>> Which god? >>>>>>> >>>>>> Do you believe in any? >>>>> No. >>>> Are you familiar with the Christian God? >>> Why do you ask? >> Just wondering how he can be so certain that the Christian God does not exist. > > The exact same way you can be so certain Zeus doesn't exist. > Do you know what it means for someone to believe in God? -- ~Stumper Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted March 8, 2007 Posted March 8, 2007 On Mar 7, 12:09�am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote: > On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 21:53:34 -0800, scottrichter...@yahoo.com (ScottRichter) wrote: > > Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted March 8, 2007 Posted March 8, 2007 On Mar 7, 4:21�am, "Mettas Mother" <Mettas_Moth...@yahoo.com> wrote: > So did the storm come? > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > news:1173267775.211415.259560@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com... > On Mar 7, 12:32?am, Sippuuden <s...@macrosoft.net> wrote: > > > > > Have you considered this verse from Isaiah? > > Isaiah 4:6 Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted March 8, 2007 Posted March 8, 2007 On Mar 7, 4:25�am, "Mettas Mother" <Mettas_Moth...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Theists are also inventive. Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted March 8, 2007 Posted March 8, 2007 On Mar 7, 6:10?am, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Mar 7, 12:10?am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote: > > > On 6 Mar 2007 14:52:00 -0800, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> > > > wrote: > > > ? - Refer: <1173221520.689544.138...@n33g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> > > > >Have you considered you're just making an ass of yourself? > > > > That appears to be an avowed goal of his. > > > Now why would an atheist be concerned about what my goals are? > > Because you keep defecating in alt.atheism. > > > Do atheists concern themselves with the goals of all people? > > No, just the goals of people trying to impose their religious beliefs > on everyone. As I understand it, you are saying that you are opposed to freedom of speech. Robert B. Winn Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted March 8, 2007 Posted March 8, 2007 On Mar 7, 6:12�am, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Mar 7, 12:32?am, Sippuuden <s...@macrosoft.net> wrote: > > > Mettas Mother wrote: > > > > Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence! > > > > ?> > > > No evidence of absence is ever required in any case. The burden of proof > > > cannot be shifted to the non-believers. > > > > The only reasonable default presumption in any case like this is the > > > null, 'NO ET,' 'NO GOD' no whatever. > > > >http://www.setileague.org/articles/setihoax.htm > > > >http://www.setileague.org/editor/null.htm > > > Have you considered this verse from Isaiah? > > Isaiah 4:6 Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted March 8, 2007 Posted March 8, 2007 On Mar 7, 6:15�am, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Mar 7, 12:51?am, Sippuuden <s...@macrosoft.net> wrote: > > > rbwinn wrote: > > > > On Mar 6, 2:21?pm, Sippuuden <s...@macrosoft.net> wrote: > > > >> rbwinn wrote: > > > >>> On Mar 6, 2:40 am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote: > > > >>>> On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 19:13:03 -0800, Sippuuden <s...@macrosoft.net> > > > >>>> wrote: > > > >>>> ? - Refer: <j6SdnbyJ15LcQXHYnZ2dnUVZ_uXin...@comcast.com> > > > >>>>> rbwinn wrote: > > > >>>>>> On Mar 5, 11:48?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > >>>>>>> On 4 Mar., 17:21, "H. Wm. Esque" <HEs...@bellsouth.net> wrote:> "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote in message > > > >>>>>>>>news:1173018520.978855.246000@64g2000cwx.googlegroups.com... > > > >>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 12:05?am, "H. Wm. Esque" <HEs...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>> "Scott Richter" <scottrichter...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > > >>>>>>> snip > > > >>>>>>>>> Matthew 10:14 > > > >>>>>>>>> And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye > > > >>>>>>>>> depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet. > > > >>>>>>>> Christians who do not heed this verse are in violation of the very > > > >>>>>>>> faith they profess. There is no Biblical authorization to "shove ones > > > >>>>>>>> religion down the throat of another person". An atheist who wants > > > >>>>>>>> a defense against over-bearing proselytizers should be able to > > > >>>>>>>> point to this verse as a defense > > > >>>>>>> We have, and, just like you and the inane champion of the world > > > >>>>>>> (little Winn), they ignore it. > > > >>>>>> Well, as I told you before, that was Christ's instruction to his > > > >>>>>> twelve apostles. ?I am not an apostle. > > > >>>>>> I am just an ordinary person quoting verses from Isaiah. > > > >>>>>> Robert B. Winn > > > >>>>> Logical fallacy of ad hoc hypothesis: > > > >>>>> "An ad hoc hypothesis is one created to explain away facts that seem to > > > >>>>> refute one's theory." -- ?http://skepdic.com/adhoc.html > > > >>>> One has to actually have a theory in the first place. > > > >>>> Bobby has only crazed schizophrenic ramblings. > > > >>> You were the ones who were trying to promote me to the position of > > > >>> apostle. ?You have no authority to make any such promotion. ? I am not > > > >>> being sent with the same responsibility the apostles were given. ?I > > > >>> have yet to see you use any verse of the Bible in context. ?All you > > > >>> ever do is take random verses and apply them according to your > > > >>> interpretation. > > > >>> Robert B. Winn > > > >> Robert, why would you believe that you are somehow exempt from a simple > > > >> instruction in your manual: to beat a speedy retreat from any place like > > > >> alt dot atheism where your proselytizing is not welcome, and 'shake the > > > >> dust of that place off your feet' [don't have anything further to do > > > >> with it]? > > > > >> Your hypothesis that things in your manual only apply to the original > > > >> twelve apostles is just the fallacy of ad hoc hypothesis. If they were > > > >> to apply only to the original twelve apostles then there would be no > > > >> proselytizing today, would there?- Hide quoted text - > > > > > Who told you I was proselytizing? > > > > Robert B. Winn > > > > You did, Robert, when you started quoting your book of myth to us > > > non-believers.- Hide quoted text - > > > Oh, I see, you have forbidden all people from quoting from the Bible. > > Oops. Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted March 8, 2007 Posted March 8, 2007 On Mar 7, 6:21?am, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Mar 7, 12:09?am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote: > > > On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 21:53:34 -0800, scottrichter...@yahoo.com (ScottRichter) wrote: > > > > ? - Refer: <1hukpsp.1pxrmuu1t335k3N%scottrichter...@yahoo.com> > > > > >rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > >> > > Why don't you explain it to Jesus Christ when he returns to judge the > > > >> > > earth? > > > > >> > That's so adorable! You think some guy who lived 2000 years ago (if he > > > >> > existed at all) is going to "return to judge the earth"? It's just too > > > >> > cute for words! > > > > >> > No, wait... You're an ADULT, right? Hmmm, scratch what I said, it's not > > > >> > cute at all, it's just ridiculous. > > > > >> Well, Scot, I would not be the one to discuss your idea with. ?Why > > > >> don't you take an opportunity to discuss it with Jesus Christ after he > > > >> returns to judge the earth? > > > > >Like I said, a grown man saying these things: ridiculous. > > > > >Here's a tip, Skippy. For a threat to work, the person at whom the > > > >threat is directed has to believe the threat is real. Otherwise, you > > > >come across like a four year old child trying to scare his parents by > > > >claiming a monster is in the closet. > > > > >Does any of this make sense to you? > > > > Too many big words. > > > Too much threatening reality. > > > Too much sanity for pathetic little Bobby. > > > You sound like an atheist searching for a verse from Isaiah. > > Thou shalt not bear false witness. > Ok, now it is my turn. Isaiah 5:3 And now, O inhabitants of Jerusalem, and men of Judah, judge, I pray you, betwixt me and my vineyard. I enjoy the scriptures more than anything. Your turn now. Quote another scripture. Robert B. Winn Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted March 8, 2007 Posted March 8, 2007 On Mar 7, 6:22�am, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Mar 7, 12:07 am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote: > > > On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 13:07:51 -0800, Sippuuden <s...@macrosoft.net> > > > wrote: > > > Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted March 8, 2007 Posted March 8, 2007 On Mar 7, 6:24�am, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Mar 6, 11:06?pm, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote: > > > On 6 Mar 2007 14:32:53 -0800, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> > > > wrote: > > > ? - Refer: <1173220373.586251.210...@8g2000cwh.googlegroups.com> > > > >So you think it's a good idea to deliberately disobey orders straight > > > >from your deity. ?How's that working out for you? > > > > The nurses tighten his jacket straps tomorrow. > > > Well, here we have people from medical science claiming to be my > > diety. Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted March 8, 2007 Posted March 8, 2007 On Mar 7, 6:26�am, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Mar 6, 10:57?pm, scottrichter...@yahoo.com (Scott Richter) wrote: > > > rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Latin is a dead language used by people who have nothing to say. > > > > > > > > Much like quoting from the Bible... > > > > > > > Well, Jesus Christ said, Search the scriptures, for in them ye think > > > > > > ye have eternal life. > > > > > > You've long since proven you have nothing to say. No need to provide any > > > > > more evidence, little fella... > > > > > Well, I don't need to have anything to say. ? > > > > Well, then "Mission Accomplished"... > > > Oh, I see. Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted March 8, 2007 Posted March 8, 2007 On Mar 7, 6:27�am, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Mar 6, 10:53?pm, scottrichter...@yahoo.com (Scott Richter) wrote: > > > rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > Why don't you explain it to Jesus Christ when he returns to judge the > > > > > > earth? > > > > > > That's so adorable! You think some guy who lived 2000 years ago (if he > > > > > existed at all) is going to "return to judge the earth"? It's just too > > > > > cute for words! > > > > > > No, wait... You're an ADULT, right? Hmmm, scratch what I said, it's not > > > > > cute at all, it's just ridiculous. > > > > > Well, Scot, I would not be the one to discuss your idea with. ?Why > > > > don't you take an opportunity to discuss it with Jesus Christ after he > > > > returns to judge the earth? > > > > Like I said, a grown man saying these things: ridiculous. > > > > Here's a tip, Skippy. For a threat to work, the person at whom the > > > threat is directed has to believe the threat is real. Otherwise, you > > > come across like a four year old child trying to scare his parents by > > > claiming a monster is in the closet. > > > > Does any of this make sense to you? > > > Nothing any atheist has ever said to me made any sense. Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted March 8, 2007 Posted March 8, 2007 On Mar 7, 6:31�am, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Mar 6, 8:40?pm, scottrichter...@yahoo.com (Scott Richter) wrote: > > > rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > It's all a part of his deliberate, intentional, willful, and > > > > > self-imposed ignorance. > > > > > So what is it that you claim I am ignorant of? > > > > I'd say.... almost everything. > > > > But, hey, I'm just going on what you write. Maybe you're a lot smarter > > > than you sound... > > > Why does it matter how I sound to atheists? > > Two reasons I can think of off the top of my head: > > 1. Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted March 8, 2007 Posted March 8, 2007 On Mar 7, 6:35?am, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Mar 6, 3:52?pm, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote: > > > rbwinn wrote: > > > > On Mar 5, 1:27?am, "Richo" <m.richard... > > > > > > Cheers, Mark.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > Well, what about this scripture from Isaiah, Mark? ?Have you > > > > considered this scripture? > > > > Isaiah 3:25 ?Thy men shall fall by the sword, and thy mighty in the > > > > war. > > > > Have you considered you're just making an ass of yourself?- Hide quoted text - > > > I have never considered that. > > That's too bad, but not surprising. Well, it looks like a good time for a scripture from Isaiah. Isaiah 5:7 For the vineyard of the Lord of hosts is the house of Israel, and the men of Judah his pleasing plant: and he looked for judgment, but behold oppression; for righteousness, but behold a cry. Robert B. Winn Quote
Guest Pastor Frank Posted March 8, 2007 Posted March 8, 2007 "Free Lunch" <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message news:76apu2dcv4g76lm7bvpke9k37eleu1n00q@4ax.com... > On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 08:35:09 +0800, in alt.atheism > "Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.edu> wrote in > <45eb800b$0$30102$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>: >>>> >>>> Are we seeing an atheist acknowledging gods, whether real or >>>>representational etc. or not? You better be careful, or atheist central >>>>will be yanking your number. >>> >>> I acknowledge that people claim gods exist. I am completely open to >>> evidence to show that any god does exist. So far, no one, except 'Richo' >>> in <1172814337.257713.200830@30g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> in the Define >>> "God" thread, is willing to state that gods are nothing more than what >>> people worship as gods. If you want to define gods as nothing more than >>> that, I cannot argue with you. If God is only love for you, but has no >>> actual power, I cannot argue with you. I will consider you silly, but >>> nothing else. >> >> "Actual power"? You must be kidding. Don't you know amor vincit omnia? >>Show me something that has more power than love. > > I didn't realize that you worshipped Aphrodite. > What a stupid remark!!!! You know very well, that Aphrodite represents lust, not love and didn't bother to die for anyone she loved. In fact such a woman will cause her lovers to fight over her and invariably amble off with the winner, caring nothing about the vanquished. Christ laid down His innocent life for us sinners, ...for the love of us, and BEFORE we were sufficiently perfect to deserve His love. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted March 8, 2007 Posted March 8, 2007 On Mar 7, 6:42?am, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Mar 6, 3:48?pm, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote: > > > rbwinn wrote: > > > > On Mar 4, 7:02?pm, "jl" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > On Mar 4, 7:18 pm, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Mar 4, 3:59?pm, "jl" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > ?[...] > > > > > > Well, if Darrell Stec read his 30 Bibles, why didn't he know anything > > > > > > about them? ?The same question applies to you. ?I'll tell you what, I > > > > > > will quote a verse from Isaiah, and then you can say you have read a > > > > > > verse from the Old Testament. > > > > > > Isaiah 3:23 ?The glasses, and the fine linen, and the hoods, and the > > > > > > vails. > > > > > > Robert B. Winn > > > > > > Poor Winnie. ?No need for the Tower of Babel to tie his tongue. ?The > > > > > thing is in a knot. > > > > > > Huh? ?What's this, Winnie, about the glasses and the fine linen? ?Some > > > > > kind of masonic ritual or are you a Mormon Klanster, a wizard under > > > > > the sheets? > > > > > > Time to go now, Winnie. ?James Cameron is putting on his show about > > > > > all those bones he found in the coffins of Jesus, Mary, Joseph, Mary > > > > > Magdalen, and Judah, son of Jesus. ?Tune in: ?Discovery Channel at 9. > > > > > EST. > > > > > Why are all atheists buying into this hoax? ? I thought atheists did > > > > not believe in Jesus Christ. > > > > Isaiah 3:24 ?And it shall come to pass, that instead of sweet smell > > > > there shall be stink, instead of a girdle a rent; and instead of well > > > > set hair baldness; and instead of a stomacher a girding of sackcloth; > > > > and burning instead of beauty. > > > > Not believing in deities doesn't mean people named Jesus don't exist. > > > If you lived in the real world, you'd know that.- Hide quoted text - > > > So why are you pretending that you have found the tomb of the Jesus > > Christ who was crucifed and resurrected? > > You should read the part of the bible where it tells you lying is a > sin. > > Exodus 20:16 > Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. > > Exodus 23:1 > Thou shalt not raise a false report: put not thine hand with the > wicked to be an unrighteous witness. > > Proverbs 19:9 > A false witness shall not be unpunished, and he that speaketh lies > shall perish.- Hide quoted text - > See how much better things go when we follow the scriptures? Isaiah 5:8 Woe unto them that join house to house, that lay field to field, till there be no place, that they may be placed alone in the midst of the earth. Robert B. Winn Quote
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