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Guest Michael Gray
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On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 17:58:19 -0500, stumper <stumper@newvessel.com>

wrote:

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>Michael Gray wrote:

>> On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 16:18:20 -0500, stumper <stumper@newvessel.com>

>> wrote:

>> - Refer: <P8ydnfZCSKse4G3YnZ2dnUVZ_hzinZ2d@ptd.net>

>>> Michael Gray wrote:

>>>> On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 13:45:50 -0500, stumper <stumper@newvessel.com>

>>>> wrote:

>>>> - Refer: <QJWdnVzGDdRYxG3YnZ2dnUVZ_hOdnZ2d@ptd.net>

>>>>> Michael Gray wrote:

>>>>>> On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 23:50:43 -0500, stumper <stumper@newvessel.com>

>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>> - Refer: <upadnfHJF_WXC3LYnZ2dnUVZ_v7inZ2d@ptd.net>

>>>>>>> Michael Gray wrote:

>>>>>>>> On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 17:35:26 -0500, stumper <stumper@newvessel.com>

>>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>> - Refer: <yumdnbGnWIeDo3LYnZ2dnUVZ_vCknZ2d@ptd.net>

>>>>>>>>> Michael Gray wrote:

>>>>>>>>>> stumper wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Gray wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>> stumper wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Gray wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stumper wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Gray wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stumper wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Gray wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stumper wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shouldn't you obey the Ten Commandments?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which version?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which one do you have in mind?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ve ask ze qvestions here!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are two versions at least in the Hebrew, many, many more if you

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rely" on the excresent English or Latin translations.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you trying to say that

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you can read Hebrew?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can read the Bible in Hebrew, yes.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you speak Aramaic as well?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't "speak" it, but can read it, after a fashion.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I heard Benny Hinn does.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Benny Hinn only speaks the pure bullshit language of a heartless

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> con-artist.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He is a criminally fraudulent money vampire who is responsible for

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much suffering and premature death in his single-minded pursuit of the

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dollar.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He makes Dracula look like Albert Schweitzer.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can God speak Chinese?

>>>>>>>>>>>> Which god?

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Do you believe in any?

>>>>>>>>>> No.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Are you familiar with the Christian God?

>>>>>>>> As familiar as I am with Sherlock Holmes.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> How do you know it does not exist?

>>>>>> What "it" are you referring to, child?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I am rapidly coming to the conclusion that you are a vicously retarded

>>>>>> infantile illiterate, who is wilfully ignorant to a truly astounding

>>>>>> extent.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Can you supply me with some minimal evidence to show that such a

>>>>>> conclusion is unwarranted?

>>>>>>

>>>>> I read philosophy and law.

>>>>> How about you?

>>>> 1) You are anonymous, so that assertion is baseless.

>>>> 2) Qualifications are not evidence in refutation of my assertion.

>>>> 3) What have my qualifications got to do with my human ability to

>>>> judge your maturity, literacy and ignorance, as displayed in your

>>>> posts here?

>>>>

>>>> Uou confirm my dianosis with every illogical retort.

>>>> Your responses are all logical fallacies.

>>>>

>>>> But, I see that you are a philosopher.

>>>> No fucking wonder you cannot employ logic or reason!

>>>>

>>> I'm a student of Dao and Zen.

>>

>> A Zen philoso-wanker.

>> Now I understand why you are a babbling incoherent woo-woo

>> mental-cripple.

>>

>>> What makes you think logic is reasonable?

>>

>> It works.

>>

>

>Are you always logical and reasonable?

 

Not always.

Especially when I am being annoyed by pointlessly disconnected

chakra-babble from an infant-school philosopher.

 

You never did answer my question as to whether or not you were lying

when you implied that you are an atheist.

But then again, I do not expect to get any form of reality or honesty

from you.

I see that you have not disappointed me in that respect.

 

I think that I have got better things to do than engage in a battle of

wits with an unarmed opponent.

 

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Guest stumper
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Michael Gray wrote:

> On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 17:54:01 -0500, stumper <stumper@newvessel.com>

> wrote:

> - Refer: <oumdnZ5vocZnDm3YnZ2dnUVZ_uiknZ2d@ptd.net>

>> Michael Gray wrote:

>>> On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 16:15:21 -0500, stumper <stumper@newvessel.com>

>>> wrote:

>>> - Refer: <P8ydnfdCSKtN4W3YnZ2dnUVZ_hzinZ2d@ptd.net>

>>>> Michael Gray wrote:

>>>>> On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 13:44:17 -0500, stumper <stumper@newvessel.com>

>>>>> wrote:

>>>>> - Refer: <QJWdnV3GDdT1xG3YnZ2dnUVZ_hOdnZ2d@ptd.net>

>>>>>> Michael Gray wrote:

>>>>>>> On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 00:00:35 -0500, stumper <stumper@newvessel.com>

>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>> - Refer: <75WdnXqXUp7BBXLYnZ2dnUVZ_g6dnZ2d@ptd.net>

>>>>>>>> Michael Gray wrote:

>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 18:36:27 -0500, stumper <stumper@newvessel.com>

>>>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>>> - Refer: <kLSdncz2_8r-0XLYnZ2dnUVZ_riknZ2d@ptd.net>

>>>>>>>>>> JessHC wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>> stumper wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>> JessHC wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>> stumper wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Gray wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stumper wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Gray wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stumper wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Gray wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stumper wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Gray wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stumper wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Gray wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stumper wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shouldn't you obey the Ten Commandments?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which version?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which one do you have in mind?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ve ask ze qvestions here!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are two versions at least in the Hebrew, many, many more if you

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rely" on the excresent English or Latin translations.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you trying to say that

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you can read Hebrew?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can read the Bible in Hebrew, yes.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you speak Aramaic as well?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't "speak" it, but can read it, after a fashion.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I heard Benny Hinn does.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Benny Hinn only speaks the pure bullshit language of a heartless

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> con-artist.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He is a criminally fraudulent money vampire who is responsible for

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much suffering and premature death in his single-minded pursuit of the

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dollar.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He makes Dracula look like Albert Schweitzer.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can God speak Chinese?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which god?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you believe in any?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you familiar with the Christian God?

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you ask?

>>>>>>>>>>>> Just wondering how he can be so certain that the Christian God does not exist.

>>>>>>>>>>> The exact same way you can be so certain Zeus doesn't exist.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Do you know what it means

>>>>>>>>>> for someone to believe in God?

>>>>>>>>> Yes.

>>>>>>>>> It is the same as any belief that is not supported by a scrap of

>>>>>>>>> evidence.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> What is the evidence for "(-2)(-3) = 6"?

>>>>>>>> What is the evidence for "Matter is in space and time"?

>>>>>>> How do those utterly facile questions justify your irrational belief

>>>>>>> in one god out of an infinite possible selection?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>> Who said I believe in any god?

>>>>> I did.

>>>>> Are you claiming that you are atheist?

>>>>> Your question: "Are you familiar with the Christian God?" strongly

>>>>> implies, (if not outright assumes), the clear existence of an existent

>>>>> "god".

>>>>> Were you mistaken?

>>>>>

>>>>>> Do you even know what it is?

>>>>> Yes, I just explained it above.

>>>>> It is a mental concept retained in spite of all evidence.

>>>>>

>>>>> Will you hurry up and get to the point, if you (indeed) have one?

>>>>>

>>>> Gods are something you cannot understand with words.

>>> What?!

>>> So, you do believe that they exist, and you cannot describe

>>> them?!?!?

>>>

>>> Sheesh. Gimme a break.

>>> I've had enough badgering incoherent loonies for one week.

>>>

>>> You were lying when you implied that you were atheist.

>

> No response to this plain fact, I note.

>

>>>> Rather like Nothingness to some.

>>> Meaningless gobbldegook.

>>>

>>>> I have no way of knowing

>>>> whether such a thing exists or not.

>>> That is your problem, not mine.

>>>

>> You seem to be certain about things

>> you cannot possibly be certain about.

>

> You seem to be absolutely certain about that.

> Google: Pot, Kettle, and Black.

>

>> Is Nothingness meaningless?

>> http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/nothingness/

>

> What does that have to with your meaningless phrase:

> "Rather like Nothingness to some."??

> (Apart from more philosophical bullshit, that is.)

>

> Just what is your goal here?

> You are like an intellectual mosquito.

> Distracting, mildly annoying, a completely useless parasite, and when

> any light is shone on the subject, you are nowhere to be seen.

>

 

I'm here to lessen

the needless suffering of some people.

 

What is your issue?

 

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~Stumper

Guest stumper
Posted

Michael Gray wrote:

> On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 18:19:03 -0500, stumper <stumper@newvessel.com>

> wrote:

> - Refer: <qpidncF4Ga5TBG3YnZ2dnUVZ_hKdnZ2d@ptd.net>

>> JessHC wrote:

>>> stumper wrote:

>>>> Michael Gray wrote:

>>>>> On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 16:15:21 -0500, stumper <stumper@newvessel.com>

>>>>> wrote:

>>>>> - Refer: <P8ydnfdCSKtN4W3YnZ2dnUVZ_hzinZ2d@ptd.net>

>>>>>> Michael Gray wrote:

>>>>>>> On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 13:44:17 -0500, stumper <stumper@newvessel.com>

>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>> - Refer: <QJWdnV3GDdT1xG3YnZ2dnUVZ_hOdnZ2d@ptd.net>

>>>>>>>> Michael Gray wrote:

>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 00:00:35 -0500, stumper <stumper@newvessel.com>

>>>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>>> - Refer: <75WdnXqXUp7BBXLYnZ2dnUVZ_g6dnZ2d@ptd.net>

>>>>>>>>>> Michael Gray wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 18:36:27 -0500, stumper <stumper@newvessel.com>

>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>> - Refer: <kLSdncz2_8r-0XLYnZ2dnUVZ_riknZ2d@ptd.net>

>>>>>>>>>>>> JessHC wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>> stumper wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JessHC wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stumper wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Gray wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stumper wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Gray wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stumper wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Gray wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stumper wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Gray wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stumper wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Gray wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stumper wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shouldn't you obey the Ten Commandments?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which version?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which one do you have in mind?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ve ask ze qvestions here!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are two versions at least in the Hebrew, many, many more if you

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rely" on the excresent English or Latin translations.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you trying to say that

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you can read Hebrew?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can read the Bible in Hebrew, yes.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you speak Aramaic as well?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't "speak" it, but can read it, after a fashion.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I heard Benny Hinn does.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Benny Hinn only speaks the pure bullshit language of a heartless

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> con-artist.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He is a criminally fraudulent money vampire who is responsible for

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much suffering and premature death in his single-minded pursuit of the

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dollar.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He makes Dracula look like Albert Schweitzer.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can God speak Chinese?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which god?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you believe in any?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you familiar with the Christian God?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you ask?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just wondering how he can be so certain that the Christian God does not exist.

>>>>>>>>>>>>> The exact same way you can be so certain Zeus doesn't exist.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you know what it means

>>>>>>>>>>>> for someone to believe in God?

>>>>>>>>>>> Yes.

>>>>>>>>>>> It is the same as any belief that is not supported by a scrap of

>>>>>>>>>>> evidence.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> What is the evidence for "(-2)(-3) = 6"?

>>>>>>>>>> What is the evidence for "Matter is in space and time"?

>>>>>>>>> How do those utterly facile questions justify your irrational belief

>>>>>>>>> in one god out of an infinite possible selection?

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Who said I believe in any god?

>>>>>>> I did.

>>>>>>> Are you claiming that you are atheist?

>>>>>>> Your question: "Are you familiar with the Christian God?" strongly

>>>>>>> implies, (if not outright assumes), the clear existence of an existent

>>>>>>> "god".

>>>>>>> Were you mistaken?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Do you even know what it is?

>>>>>>> Yes, I just explained it above.

>>>>>>> It is a mental concept retained in spite of all evidence.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Will you hurry up and get to the point, if you (indeed) have one?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>> Gods are something you cannot understand with words.

>>>>> What?!

>>>>> So, you do believe that they exist, and you cannot describe

>>>>> them?!?!?

>>>>>

>>>>> Sheesh. Gimme a break.

>>>>> I've had enough badgering incoherent loonies for one week.

>>>>>

>>>>> You were lying when you implied that you were atheist.

>>>>>

>>>>>> Rather like Nothingness to some.

>>>>> Meaningless gobbldegook.

>>>>>

>>>>>> I have no way of knowing

>>>>>> whether such a thing exists or not.

>>>>> That is your problem, not mine.

>>>> You seem to be certain about things

>>>> you cannot possibly be certain about.

>>> Until you actually present actual evidence, there's no reason to

>>> bother considering your ravings as anything other than ravings.

>>>

>> How do you know that you exist?

>> Do you even know what you are?

>

> Fucking idiot.

>

> I was right:

> You are an annoying and pointless wanker.

>

 

I gather you didn't read widely.

But that would not excuse your bad manners.

 

Is your life worth living?

 

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~Stumper

Guest stumper
Posted

Michael Gray wrote:

> On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 17:58:19 -0500, stumper <stumper@newvessel.com>

> wrote:

> - Refer: <oumdnZlvocZvCW3YnZ2dnUVZ_ujinZ2d@ptd.net>

>> Michael Gray wrote:

>>> On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 16:18:20 -0500, stumper <stumper@newvessel.com>

>>> wrote:

>>> - Refer: <P8ydnfZCSKse4G3YnZ2dnUVZ_hzinZ2d@ptd.net>

>>>> Michael Gray wrote:

>>>>> On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 13:45:50 -0500, stumper <stumper@newvessel.com>

>>>>> wrote:

>>>>> - Refer: <QJWdnVzGDdRYxG3YnZ2dnUVZ_hOdnZ2d@ptd.net>

>>>>>> Michael Gray wrote:

>>>>>>> On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 23:50:43 -0500, stumper <stumper@newvessel.com>

>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>> - Refer: <upadnfHJF_WXC3LYnZ2dnUVZ_v7inZ2d@ptd.net>

>>>>>>>> Michael Gray wrote:

>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 17:35:26 -0500, stumper <stumper@newvessel.com>

>>>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>>> - Refer: <yumdnbGnWIeDo3LYnZ2dnUVZ_vCknZ2d@ptd.net>

>>>>>>>>>> Michael Gray wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>> stumper wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Gray wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>> stumper wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Gray wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stumper wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Gray wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stumper wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Gray wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stumper wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shouldn't you obey the Ten Commandments?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which version?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which one do you have in mind?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ve ask ze qvestions here!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are two versions at least in the Hebrew, many, many more if you

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rely" on the excresent English or Latin translations.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you trying to say that

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you can read Hebrew?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can read the Bible in Hebrew, yes.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you speak Aramaic as well?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't "speak" it, but can read it, after a fashion.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I heard Benny Hinn does.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Benny Hinn only speaks the pure bullshit language of a heartless

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> con-artist.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He is a criminally fraudulent money vampire who is responsible for

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much suffering and premature death in his single-minded pursuit of the

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dollar.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He makes Dracula look like Albert Schweitzer.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can God speak Chinese?

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which god?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you believe in any?

>>>>>>>>>>> No.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Are you familiar with the Christian God?

>>>>>>>>> As familiar as I am with Sherlock Holmes.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> How do you know it does not exist?

>>>>>>> What "it" are you referring to, child?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I am rapidly coming to the conclusion that you are a vicously retarded

>>>>>>> infantile illiterate, who is wilfully ignorant to a truly astounding

>>>>>>> extent.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Can you supply me with some minimal evidence to show that such a

>>>>>>> conclusion is unwarranted?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>> I read philosophy and law.

>>>>>> How about you?

>>>>> 1) You are anonymous, so that assertion is baseless.

>>>>> 2) Qualifications are not evidence in refutation of my assertion.

>>>>> 3) What have my qualifications got to do with my human ability to

>>>>> judge your maturity, literacy and ignorance, as displayed in your

>>>>> posts here?

>>>>>

>>>>> Uou confirm my dianosis with every illogical retort.

>>>>> Your responses are all logical fallacies.

>>>>>

>>>>> But, I see that you are a philosopher.

>>>>> No fucking wonder you cannot employ logic or reason!

>>>>>

>>>> I'm a student of Dao and Zen.

>>> A Zen philoso-wanker.

>>> Now I understand why you are a babbling incoherent woo-woo

>>> mental-cripple.

>>>

>>>> What makes you think logic is reasonable?

>>> It works.

>>>

>> Are you always logical and reasonable?

>

> Not always.

> Especially when I am being annoyed by pointlessly disconnected

> chakra-babble from an infant-school philosopher.

>

> You never did answer my question as to whether or not you were lying

> when you implied that you are an atheist.

> But then again, I do not expect to get any form of reality or honesty

> from you.

> I see that you have not disappointed me in that respect.

>

> I think that I have got better things to do than engage in a battle of

> wits with an unarmed opponent.

>

 

Unlike some clueless people,

I don't feel the need to answer

all questions once and for all.

 

Things change.

People change.

Knowledge increases.

Science gets better.

Even theology advances.

 

You would feel a lot better

once you learn to live with uncertainty.

 

Do you know when you are going to die?

 

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~Stumper

Guest rbwinn
Posted

On Mar 7, 9:29�pm, scottrichter...@yahoo.com (Scott Richter) wrote:

> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

> > Any time atheists get too pushy, I quote some verses from Isaiah.

Guest rbwinn
Posted

On Mar 8, 2:39�am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 01:23:22 -0800, Sippuuden <s...@macrosoft.net>

> wrote:

>

Guest rbwinn
Posted

On Mar 8, 4:08?am, "ZenIsWhen" <onesmalls...@verizon.net> wrote:

> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message

>

> news:1173322420.878055.7950@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com...

> On Mar 7, 6:24?am, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote:

>

> > rbwinn wrote:

> > > On Mar 6, 11:06?pm, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:

> > > > On 6 Mar 2007 14:32:53 -0800, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > ? - Refer: <1173220373.586251.210...@8g2000cwh.googlegroups.com>

> > > > >So you think it's a good idea to deliberately disobey orders straight

> > > > >from your deity. ?How's that working out for you?

>

> > > > The nurses tighten his jacket straps tomorrow.

>

> > > Well, here we have people from medical science claiming to be my

> > > diety. Atheists are nothing if not inventive.

>

> > That's an unfortunate comprehension problem you've got. Too much

> > medication, or not enough?

>

> I am fairly good at staying away from medical science.

> Robert B. Winn

>

> and, obviously, your much needed psychiatrists

 

Well, you may believe that you need a psychiatrist, but don't place

the blame on me for that particular atheistic deception. I do not

have any psychiatrists.

Robert B. Winn

Guest rbwinn
Posted

On Mar 8, 8:06?am, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote:

> rbwinn wrote:

> > On Mar 7, 12:09?am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:

> > > On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 21:53:34 -0800, scottrichter...@yahoo.com (ScottRichter) wrote:

>

> > > ? - Refer: <1hukpsp.1pxrmuu1t335k3N%scottrichter...@yahoo.com>

>

> > > >rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

>

> > > >> > > Why don't you explain it to Jesus Christ when he returns to judge the

> > > >> > > earth?

>

> > > >> > That's so adorable! You think some guy who lived 2000 years ago (if he

> > > >> > existed at all) is going to "return to judge the earth"? It's just too

> > > >> > cute for words!

>

> > > >> > No, wait... You're an ADULT, right? Hmmm, scratch what I said, it's not

> > > >> > cute at all, it's just ridiculous.

>

> > > >> Well, Scot, I would not be the one to discuss your idea with. ?Why

> > > >> don't you take an opportunity to discuss it with Jesus Christ after he

> > > >> returns to judge the earth?

>

> > > >Like I said, a grown man saying these things: ridiculous.

>

> > > >Here's a tip, Skippy. For a threat to work, the person at whom the

> > > >threat is directed has to believe the threat is real. Otherwise, you

> > > >come across like a four year old child trying to scare his parents by

> > > >claiming a monster is in the closet.

>

> > > >Does any of this make sense to you?

>

> > > Too many big words.

> > > Too much threatening reality.

> > > Too much sanity for pathetic little Bobby.

>

> > I have never seen an atheist say anything that had much meaning.

>

> That's the sad result of your inability to interact with reality.

>

> > Now, Isaiah was a person who could make meaningful statements.

>

> As is this statement.-

 

Well, compare your statement with one from Isaiah.

Isaiah 5:16 But the Lord of hosts shall be exalted in judgment, and

God that is holy shall be sanctified in righteousness.

Robert B. Winn

Guest rbwinn
Posted

On Mar 8, 8:07?am, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote:

> rbwinn wrote:

> > On Mar 7, 4:25?am, "Mettas Mother" <Mettas_Moth...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > > Theists are also inventive. ?Can you deny that theist invented god!

>

> > God is eternal.

>

> Unsupported assertion.

 

Wrong. God sent his Only Begotten Son.

Robert B. Winn

Guest rbwinn
Posted

On Mar 8, 8:08�am, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote:

> rbwinn wrote:

> > On Mar 7, 6:10?am, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote:

> > > rbwinn wrote:

> > > > On Mar 7, 12:10?am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:

> > > > > On 6 Mar 2007 14:52:00 -0800, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > ? - Refer: <1173221520.689544.138...@n33g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>

> > > > > >Have you considered you're just making an ass of yourself?

>

> > > > > That appears to be an avowed goal of his.

>

> > > > Now why would an atheist be concerned about what my goals are?

>

> > > Because you keep defecating in alt.atheism.

>

> > > > Do atheists concern themselves with the goals of all people?

>

> > > No, just the goals of people trying to impose their religious beliefs

> > > on everyone.

>

> > As I understand it, you are saying that you are opposed to freedom of

> > speech.

>

> Golly, did I say anything even remotely like that?

Guest rbwinn
Posted

On Mar 8, 8:16�am, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote:

> rbwinn wrote:

> > On Mar 7, 6:12?am, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote:

> > > rbwinn wrote:

> > > > On Mar 7, 12:32?am, Sippuuden <s...@macrosoft.net> wrote:

> > > > > Mettas Mother wrote:

> > > > > > Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence!

>

> > > > > ?>

> > > > > No evidence of absence is ever required in any case. The burden of proof

> > > > > cannot be shifted to the non-believers.

>

> > > > > The only reasonable default presumption in any case like this is the

> > > > > null, 'NO ET,' 'NO GOD' no whatever.

>

> > > > >http://www.setileague.org/articles/setihoax.htm

>

> > > > >http://www.setileague.org/editor/null.htm

>

> > > > Have you considered this verse from Isaiah?

> > > > Isaiah 4:6 ?And there shall be a tabernacle for a shadow in the

> > > > daytime from the heat, and for a place of refuge , and for a covert

> > > > from storm , and from rain.

>

> > > Please provide a rational, legitimate reason for any atheist to

> > > consider any quote from your book of mythology as anything other than

> > > part of your mythology.- Hide quoted text -

>

> > Consider it any way you want to consider it.

>

> Non-responsive.

Guest rbwinn
Posted

On Mar 8, 8:18?am, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote:

> rbwinn wrote:

> > On Mar 7, 6:15?am, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote:

> > > rbwinn wrote:

> > > > On Mar 7, 12:51?am, Sippuuden <s...@macrosoft.net> wrote:

> > > > > rbwinn wrote:

> > > > > > On Mar 6, 2:21?pm, Sippuuden <s...@macrosoft.net> wrote:

> > > > > >> rbwinn wrote:

> > > > > >>> On Mar 6, 2:40 am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:

> > > > > >>>> On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 19:13:03 -0800, Sippuuden <s...@macrosoft.net>

> > > > > >>>> wrote:

> > > > > >>>> ? - Refer: <j6SdnbyJ15LcQXHYnZ2dnUVZ_uXin...@comcast.com>

> > > > > >>>>> rbwinn wrote:

> > > > > >>>>>> On Mar 5, 11:48?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote:

> > > > > >>>>>>> On 4 Mar., 17:21, "H. Wm. Esque" <HEs...@bellsouth.net> wrote:> "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote in message

> > > > > >>>>>>>>news:1173018520.978855.246000@64g2000cwx.googlegroups.com...

> > > > > >>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:

> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 12:05?am, "H. Wm. Esque" <HEs...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> "Scott Richter" <scottrichter...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> > > > > >>>>>>> snip

> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Matthew 10:14

> > > > > >>>>>>>>> And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye

> > > > > >>>>>>>>> depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.

> > > > > >>>>>>>> Christians who do not heed this verse are in violation of the very

> > > > > >>>>>>>> faith they profess. There is no Biblical authorization to "shove ones

> > > > > >>>>>>>> religion down the throat of another person". An atheist who wants

> > > > > >>>>>>>> a defense against over-bearing proselytizers should be able to

> > > > > >>>>>>>> point to this verse as a defense

> > > > > >>>>>>> We have, and, just like you and the inane champion of the world

> > > > > >>>>>>> (little Winn), they ignore it.

> > > > > >>>>>> Well, as I told you before, that was Christ's instruction to his

> > > > > >>>>>> twelve apostles. ?I am not an apostle.

> > > > > >>>>>> I am just an ordinary person quoting verses from Isaiah.

> > > > > >>>>>> Robert B. Winn

> > > > > >>>>> Logical fallacy of ad hoc hypothesis:

> > > > > >>>>> "An ad hoc hypothesis is one created to explain away facts that seem to

> > > > > >>>>> refute one's theory." -- ?http://skepdic.com/adhoc.html

> > > > > >>>> One has to actually have a theory in the first place.

> > > > > >>>> Bobby has only crazed schizophrenic ramblings.

> > > > > >>> You were the ones who were trying to promote me to the position of

> > > > > >>> apostle. ?You have no authority to make any such promotion. ? I am not

> > > > > >>> being sent with the same responsibility the apostles were given. ?I

> > > > > >>> have yet to see you use any verse of the Bible in context. ?All you

> > > > > >>> ever do is take random verses and apply them according to your

> > > > > >>> interpretation.

> > > > > >>> Robert B. Winn

> > > > > >> Robert, why would you believe that you are somehow exempt from a simple

> > > > > >> instruction in your manual: to beat a speedy retreat from any place like

> > > > > >> alt dot atheism where your proselytizing is not welcome, and 'shake the

> > > > > >> dust of that place off your feet' [don't have anything further to do

> > > > > >> with it]?

>

> > > > > >> Your hypothesis that things in your manual only apply to the original

> > > > > >> twelve apostles is just the fallacy of ad hoc hypothesis. If they were

> > > > > >> to apply only to the original twelve apostles then there would be no

> > > > > >> proselytizing today, would there?- Hide quoted text -

>

> > > > > > Who told you I was proselytizing?

> > > > > > Robert B. Winn

>

> > > > > You did, Robert, when you started quoting your book of myth to us

> > > > > non-believers.- Hide quoted text -

>

> > > > Oh, I see, you have forbidden all people from quoting from the Bible.

>

> > > Oops. ?Lying is a sin.

>

> > > > Here is a verse from Isaiah.

> > > > Isaiah 5:1 ?Now will I sing to my well-beloved a song of my beloved

> > > > touching his vineyard. ?My well-beloved hath a vineyard in a very

> > > > fruitful hill.

> > > > Well, I have quoted from the Bible. ?How is that proselyting?

>

> > > How is it not ?

>

> > >http://209.161.33.50/dictionary/proselytize

> > > ?1 ?: to induce someone to convert to one's faith ? 2 ?: to recruit

> > > someone to join one's party, institution, or cause ? transitive

> > > verb ? : to recruit or convert especially to a new faith, institution,

> > > or cause

>

> > > If you aren't trying to convert anyone, what are you trying to do?- Hide quoted text -

>

> > I am just pushing back a little.

>

> Oops, sorry, that lie has been refuted.

>

> > Any time atheists get too pushy, I quote some verses from Isaiah.

>

> Baffle them with bullshit, eh?

>

> > That gets rid of most of them.

>

> Hasn't worked so far.- Hide quoted text -

>

It worked every time so far. james g. keegan lasted about two

chapters. Al Klein did not even last a chapter.

Robert B. Winn

Guest rbwinn
Posted

On Mar 8, 8:23?am, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote:

> rbwinn wrote:

> > On Mar 7, 6:26?am, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote:

> > > rbwinn wrote:

> > > > On Mar 6, 10:57?pm, scottrichter...@yahoo.com (Scott Richter) wrote:

> > > > > rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > Latin is a dead language used by people who have nothing to say.

>

> > > > > > > > > Much like quoting from the Bible...

>

> > > > > > > > Well, Jesus Christ said, Search the scriptures, for in them ye think

> > > > > > > > ye have eternal life.

>

> > > > > > > You've long since proven you have nothing to say. No need to provide any

> > > > > > > more evidence, little fella...

>

> > > > > > Well, I don't need to have anything to say. ?

>

> > > > > Well, then "Mission Accomplished"...

>

> > > > Oh, I see. ?You were on a mission. ?How did that come about?

>

> > > Have one of your attendants teach you how to read.- Hide quoted text -

>

> > Oh, I never read much other than Isaiah.

>

> That explains your comprehension problem.- Hide quoted text -

>

What is it that you think I do not understand?

Robert B. Winn

Guest rbwinn
Posted

On Mar 8, 8:24?am, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote:

> rbwinn wrote:

> > On Mar 7, 6:27?am, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote:

> > > rbwinn wrote:

> > > > On Mar 6, 10:53?pm, scottrichter...@yahoo.com (Scott Richter) wrote:

> > > > > rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Why don't you explain it to Jesus Christ when he returns to judge the

> > > > > > > > earth?

>

> > > > > > > That's so adorable! You think some guy who lived 2000 years ago (if he

> > > > > > > existed at all) is going to "return to judge the earth"? It's just too

> > > > > > > cute for words!

>

> > > > > > > No, wait... You're an ADULT, right? Hmmm, scratch what I said, it's not

> > > > > > > cute at all, it's just ridiculous.

>

> > > > > > Well, Scot, I would not be the one to discuss your idea with. ?Why

> > > > > > don't you take an opportunity to discuss it with Jesus Christ after he

> > > > > > returns to judge the earth?

>

> > > > > Like I said, a grown man saying these things: ridiculous.

>

> > > > > Here's a tip, Skippy. For a threat to work, the person at whom the

> > > > > threat is directed has to believe the threat is real. Otherwise, you

> > > > > come across like a four year old child trying to scare his parents by

> > > > > claiming a monster is in the closet.

>

> > > > > Does any of this make sense to you?

>

> > > > Nothing any atheist has ever said to me made any sense. ?You are no

> > > > exception.

>

> > > That explains so much about you.- Hide quoted text -

>

> > Enough about me, let's study this verse from Isaiah.

>

> Run and hide, Bob.- Hide quoted text -

>

Run and hide? From what?

Robert B. Winn

Guest rbwinn
Posted

On Mar 8, 8:28�am, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote:

> rbwinn wrote:

> > On Mar 7, 6:31?am, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote:

> > > rbwinn wrote:

> > > > On Mar 6, 8:40?pm, scottrichter...@yahoo.com (Scott Richter) wrote:

> > > > > rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > It's all a part of his deliberate, intentional, willful, and

> > > > > > > self-imposed ignorance.

>

> > > > > > So what is it that you claim I am ignorant of?

>

> > > > > I'd say.... almost everything.

>

> > > > > But, hey, I'm just going on what you write. Maybe you're a lot smarter

> > > > > than you sound...

>

> > > > Why does it matter how I sound to atheists?

>

> > > Two reasons I can think of off the top of my head:

>

> > > 1. ?You're posting to alt.atheism.

> > > 2. ?You aren't the only theist who thinks the way you do.

>

> > Well, those do not seem like reasons for anything to me.

>

> Of course not; you're an ill-mannered lout.

>

> > This is the United States.

>

> Maybe for you, but everybody else is on usenet.

>

> > We have freedom of speech here.

>

> You have freedom of stupidty, too; nobody said it's a good idea,

> though.

>

> > Who is the other theist you claim thinks the way I do?

>

> Pastor Frank springs to mind.

Guest rbwinn
Posted

On Mar 8, 8:29?am, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote:

> rbwinn wrote:

> > On Mar 7, 6:42?am, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote:

> > > rbwinn wrote:

> > > > On Mar 6, 3:48?pm, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote:

> > > > > rbwinn wrote:

> > > > > > On Mar 4, 7:02?pm, "jl" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> > > > > > > On Mar 4, 7:18 pm, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

>

> > > > > > > > On Mar 4, 3:59?pm, "jl" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> > > > > > > ?[...]

> > > > > > > > Well, if Darrell Stec read his 30 Bibles, why didn't he know anything

> > > > > > > > about them? ?The same question applies to you. ?I'll tell you what, I

> > > > > > > > will quote a verse from Isaiah, and then you can say you have read a

> > > > > > > > verse from the Old Testament.

> > > > > > > > Isaiah 3:23 ?The glasses, and the fine linen, and the hoods, and the

> > > > > > > > vails.

> > > > > > > > Robert B. Winn

>

> > > > > > > Poor Winnie. ?No need for the Tower of Babel to tie his tongue. ?The

> > > > > > > thing is in a knot.

>

> > > > > > > Huh? ?What's this, Winnie, about the glasses and the fine linen? ?Some

> > > > > > > kind of masonic ritual or are you a Mormon Klanster, a wizard under

> > > > > > > the sheets?

>

> > > > > > > Time to go now, Winnie. ?James Cameron is putting on his show about

> > > > > > > all those bones he found in the coffins of Jesus, Mary, Joseph, Mary

> > > > > > > Magdalen, and Judah, son of Jesus. ?Tune in: ?Discovery Channel at 9.

> > > > > > > EST.

>

> > > > > > Why are all atheists buying into this hoax? ? I thought atheists did

> > > > > > not believe in Jesus Christ.

> > > > > > Isaiah 3:24 ?And it shall come to pass, that instead of sweet smell

> > > > > > there shall be stink, instead of a girdle a rent; and instead of well

> > > > > > set hair baldness; and instead of a stomacher a girding of sackcloth;

> > > > > > and burning instead of beauty.

>

> > > > > Not believing in deities doesn't mean people named Jesus don't exist.

> > > > > If you lived in the real world, you'd know that.- Hide quoted text -

>

> > > > So why are you pretending that you have found the tomb of the Jesus

> > > > Christ who was crucifed and resurrected?

>

> > > You should read the part of the bible where it tells you lying is a

> > > sin.

>

> > > Exodus 20:16

> > > Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

>

> > > Exodus 23:1

> > > Thou shalt not raise a false report: put not thine hand with the

> > > wicked to be an unrighteous witness.

>

> > > Proverbs 19:9

> > > A false witness shall not be unpunished, and he that speaketh lies

> > > shall perish.- Hide quoted text -

>

> > See how much better things go when we follow the scriptures?

>

> But you aren't following the scriptures, as proven by your lying.- Hide quoted text -

>

Well, you are certainly welcome to your opinion, Jess.

Robert B. Winn

Guest rbwinn
Posted

On Mar 8, 8:45�am, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:

> "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote in message

>

> news:1173304704.711023.6770@n33g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

>

>

>

>

>

> > rbwinn wrote:

> >> On Mar 6, 8:40?pm, scottrichter...@yahoo.com (Scott Richter) wrote:

> >> > rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

> >> > > > > Latin is a dead language used by people who have nothing to say.

>

> >> > > > Much like quoting from the Bible...

>

> >> > > Well, Jesus Christ said, Search the scriptures, for in them ye think

> >> > > ye have eternal life.

>

> >> > You've long since proven you have nothing to say. No need to provide

> >> > any

> >> > more evidence, little fella...

>

> >> Well, I don't need to have anything to say.

>

> > Lucky break for you.

>

> >> I am talking to atheists.

>

> > No, you're babbling at atheists, in an atheist newsgroup.

Guest rbwinn
Posted

On Mar 8, 1:51�pm, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 10:45:02 -0500, "Robibnikoff"<witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:

>

>

Guest rbwinn
Posted

On Mar 8, 1:53�pm, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:

> On 7 Mar 2007 18:52:30 -0800, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:

>

Guest Mettas Mother
Posted

GOD is the SON of GOD? What an invention!

 

"rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message

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> On Mar 8, 8:07?am, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote:

> > rbwinn wrote:

> > > On Mar 7, 4:25?am, "Mettas Mother" <Mettas_Moth...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > > > Theists are also inventive. ?Can you deny that theist invented god!

> >

> > > God is eternal.

> >

> > Unsupported assertion.

>

> Wrong. God sent his Only Begotten Son.

> Robert B. Winn

>

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Guest Mettas Mother
Posted

Not in yours?

 

"JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message

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>

> rbwinn wrote:

> > On Mar 7, 4:21?am, "Mettas Mother" <Mettas_Moth...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > > So did the storm come?

> > >

> > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message

> > >

> > > news:1173267775.211415.259560@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com...

> > > On Mar 7, 12:32?am, Sippuuden <s...@macrosoft.net> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > Have you considered this verse from Isaiah?

> > > > Isaiah 4:6 ?And there shall be a tabernacle for a shadow in the

> > > > daytime from the heat, and for a place of refuge , and for a covert

> > > > from storm , and from rain.

> > > > Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text -

> > >

> > > - Show quoted text -

> >

> > The storm did come.

>

> Only in your brain.

>

Guest Sippuuden
Posted

rbwinn wrote:

> On Mar 8, 2:39�am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:

>> On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 01:23:22 -0800, Sippuuden <s...@macrosoft.net>

>> wrote:

>> � - Refer: <erCdnYJ9sbKWS3LYnZ2dnUVZ_trin...@comcast.com>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>> Michael Gray wrote:

>>>> On 7 Mar 2007 14:43:40 -0800, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com>

>>>> wrote:

>>>> � - Refer: <1173307420.007287.59...@30g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>

>>>>> Michael Gray wrote:

>>>>>> On 7 Mar 2007 09:49:42 -0800, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com>

>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>> � - Refer: <1173289782.480046.72...@64g2000cwx.googlegroups.com>

>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:

>>>>>>>> On Mar 6, 2:21?pm, Sippuuden <s...@macrosoft.net> wrote:

>>>>>>>>> Robert, why would you believe that you are somehow exempt from a simple

>>>>>>>>> instruction in your manual: to beat a speedy retreat from any place like

>>>>>>>>> alt dot atheism where your proselytizing is not welcome, and 'shake the

>>>>>>>>> dust of that place off your feet' [don't have anything further to do

>>>>>>>>> with it]?

>>>>>>>>> Your hypothesis that things in your manual only apply to the original

>>>>>>>>> twelve apostles is just the fallacy of ad hoc hypothesis. If they were

>>>>>>>>> to apply only to the original twelve apostles then there would be no

>>>>>>>>> proselytizing today, would there?- Hide quoted text -

>>>>>>>> Who told you I was proselytizing?

>>>>>>> What do YOU think you're doing?

>>>>>> Bzzzt!

>>>>>> Meaningless question.

>>>>>> Bobby is quite incapable of thought.

>>>>> Point taken; I withdraw the question.

>>>> Objection sustained.

>>>> Now, what about this defence of...

>>>> <shuffles papers>

>>>> Erm "Not guilty by way of insanity"?

>>>> What does the defendent have to say?

>>>> You will stand when you address the court Mr. Winn.

>>>> Remove that canvas jacket from him will you, usher?

>>> Take off his straight jacket? I object!

>> The learned counsel's objection is sustained.

>> Mr. Winn is a clear and present danger to rationality.

>>

>> The Jury will now consider it's verdict.

>>

> Well, here is some more atheistic mythology. So who do you claim has

> ever had a trial by jury at a sanity hearing?

>

It's not a real trial, moron, it is just make believe on Usenet. We are

just making fun of you. Can't you tell the difference? Errrm ... never

mind. You aren't known for your ability to tell real from make believe,

are you?

Guest Sippuuden
Posted

rbwinn wrote:

> On Mar 8, 8:08�am, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote:

>> rbwinn wrote:

>>> On Mar 7, 6:10?am, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote:

>>>> rbwinn wrote:

>>>>> On Mar 7, 12:10?am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:

>>>>>> On 6 Mar 2007 14:52:00 -0800, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com>

>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>> ? - Refer: <1173221520.689544.138...@n33g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>

>>>>>>> Have you considered you're just making an ass of yourself?

>>>>>> That appears to be an avowed goal of his.

>>>>> Now why would an atheist be concerned about what my goals are?

>>>> Because you keep defecating in alt.atheism.

>>>>> Do atheists concern themselves with the goals of all people?

>>>> No, just the goals of people trying to impose their religious beliefs

>>>> on everyone.

>>> As I understand it, you are saying that you are opposed to freedom of

>>> speech.

>> Golly, did I say anything even remotely like that? �Nope.- Hide quoted text -

>>

> Well, I think you did.

>

There you go again, trying to think without the proper tool.

Guest rbwinn
Posted

On Mar 9, 1:08�am, Sippuuden <s...@macrosoft.net> wrote:

> rbwinn wrote:

> > On Mar 8, 2:39?am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:

> >> On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 01:23:22 -0800, Sippuuden <s...@macrosoft.net>

> >> wrote:

> >> ? - Refer: <erCdnYJ9sbKWS3LYnZ2dnUVZ_trin...@comcast.com>

>

> >>> Michael Gray wrote:

> >>>> On 7 Mar 2007 14:43:40 -0800, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com>

> >>>> wrote:

> >>>> ? - Refer: <1173307420.007287.59...@30g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>

> >>>>> Michael Gray wrote:

> >>>>>> On 7 Mar 2007 09:49:42 -0800, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com>

> >>>>>> wrote:

> >>>>>> ? - Refer: <1173289782.480046.72...@64g2000cwx.googlegroups.com>

> >>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:

> >>>>>>>> On Mar 6, 2:21?pm, Sippuuden <s...@macrosoft.net> wrote:

> >>>>>>>>> Robert, why would you believe that you are somehow exempt from a simple

> >>>>>>>>> instruction in your manual: to beat a speedy retreat from any place like

> >>>>>>>>> alt dot atheism where your proselytizing is not welcome, and 'shake the

> >>>>>>>>> dust of that place off your feet' [don't have anything further to do

> >>>>>>>>> with it]?

> >>>>>>>>> Your hypothesis that things in your manual only apply to the original

> >>>>>>>>> twelve apostles is just the fallacy of ad hoc hypothesis. If they were

> >>>>>>>>> to apply only to the original twelve apostles then there would be no

> >>>>>>>>> proselytizing today, would there?- Hide quoted text -

> >>>>>>>> Who told you I was proselytizing?

> >>>>>>> What do YOU think you're doing?

> >>>>>> Bzzzt!

> >>>>>> Meaningless question.

> >>>>>> Bobby is quite incapable of thought.

> >>>>> Point taken; I withdraw the question.

> >>>> Objection sustained.

> >>>> Now, what about this defence of...

> >>>> <shuffles papers>

> >>>> Erm "Not guilty by way of insanity"?

> >>>> What does the defendent have to say?

> >>>> You will stand when you address the court Mr. Winn.

> >>>> Remove that canvas jacket from him will you, usher?

> >>> Take off his straight jacket? I object!

> >> The learned counsel's objection is sustained.

> >> Mr. Winn is a clear and present danger to rationality.

>

> >> The Jury will now consider it's verdict.

>

> > Well, here is some more atheistic mythology.

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