Guest Sippuuden Posted March 13, 2007 Posted March 13, 2007 Pastor Frank wrote: > "Sippuuden" <sipp@macrosoft.net> wrote in message > news:CKqdnUXGtuoTEGnYnZ2dnUVZ_vKunZ2d@comcast.com... >> That isn't what characterizes atheism, moron, "Atheism is characterized by >> an absence of belief in the existence of >> gods." --http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/intro.html >> Even you should be able to grasp that. >> > You obviously don't "grasp that" either, for it's a lie. We all know > there are existing gods aplenty, I do not know that and I do not believe it either. I do not share your religious belief in the existence of gods, I am atheist and "Atheism is characterized by an absence of belief in the existence of gods." --http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/intro.html > for anything or anyone can be a god to > somebody. Our Museums have large collections of objects which people > regarded as gods Simply regarding something as a god somehow transforms it into a real god? I don't believe that, I am atheist, and you are just another Mark Richardson clone. Quote
Guest Sippuuden Posted March 13, 2007 Posted March 13, 2007 Richo wrote: > > The vast majority of things humans believe they do so without "proof" > - but that doesnt make the beliefs foolish or unreasonable. > That may be the doctrine in your religion, but not everyone agrees with you. For instance: "The deepest sin against the human mind is to believe things without evidence." -- Thomas Huxley, Evolution and Ethics Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted March 13, 2007 Posted March 13, 2007 On Mar 13, 7:33�am, Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote: > rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism > > > Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote: > >> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism > >>> Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote: > >>>> Jesus is gonna kill people? > >>> Malachi 4:1 Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted March 13, 2007 Posted March 13, 2007 On Mar 13, 8:03�am, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Mar 12, 4:59?pm, "Mettas Mother" <Mettas_Moth...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > Then who lied? > > > The people who accuse Jesus Christ of lying lied. > > Really. Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted March 13, 2007 Posted March 13, 2007 On Mar 13, 8:40�am, "ZenIsWhen" <hereslook...@you.com> wrote: > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > news:1173797097.983303.247550@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > On Mar 13, 5:04?am, Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote: > > > > > > > freenorm <freen...@verizon.net> wrote in alt.atheism > > > > rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > >> On Mar 12, 3:07?pm, Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote: > > >>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism > > >>>> Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote: > > >>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism > > >>>>>> On Mar 12, 6:39?am, Elroy Willis wrote: > > >>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism > > >>>>>>>> Our Father Which art in Heaven. > > >>>>>>> Where's heaven? Outer space? > > >>>>> > Where there is no sin. > > >>>>> So it can't possibly be on Earth, since sin is so rampant here, > > >>>>> right? > > >>>> Earth will become part of the kingdom of heaven after Jesus Christ > > >>>> returns and the earth is cleansed of wickedness. > > >>> Jesus is gonna kill people? > > >> Malachi 4:1 For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven: > > >> and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble, > > >> and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of Hosts, > > >> that it shall leave them neither root nor branch. > > >> Robert B. Winn > > > If you believe that biblical bull shit! > > > Jesus is gonna be like those who kept the ovens at the Nazi > > concentration camps burning. Quite a nice loving god he's got there, > > don't you think? > > Well, you atheists accuse God or Jesus Christ of murder every time a > natural event or a death of any kind takes place. Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted March 13, 2007 Posted March 13, 2007 On Mar 13, 8:42?am, "ZenIsWhen" <hereslook...@you.com> wrote: > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > news:1173794713.588295.153670@t69g2000cwt.googlegroups.com... > On Mar 13, 3:40?am, "freenorm" <freen...@verizon.net> wrote: > > > > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > >news:1173757969.723707.286220@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > > > > On Mar 12, 3:07?pm, Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote: > > >> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism > > > >> > Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote: > > >> >> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism > > >> >>> On Mar 12, 6:39?am, Elroy Willis wrote: > > >> >>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism > > >> >>>>> Our Father Which art in Heaven. > > >> >>>> Where's heaven? Outer space? > > >> >> > Where there is no sin. > > >> >> So it can't possibly be on Earth, since sin is so rampant here, > > >> >> right? > > >> > Earth will become part of the kingdom of heaven after Jesus Christ > > >> > returns and the earth is cleansed of wickedness. > > > >> Jesus is gonna kill people? > > > > Malachi 4:1 For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven: > > > and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble, > > > and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of Hosts, > > > that it shall leave them neither root nor branch. > > > Robert B. Winn > > > If you believe that biblical bull shit!- Hide quoted text - > > I guess that you do not pay much attention to former vice-President Al > Gore. > Robert B. Winn > > What does Al Gore, and a scientific approach to climate change, have to do > with your fables, fantasies and fairy tales?- Hide quoted text - > Well, it does not matter how scientific you pretend to be, you are not going to be able to take the heat. Sorry to have to be the one to tell you this. Robert B. Winn Quote
Guest JessHC Posted March 13, 2007 Posted March 13, 2007 rbwinn wrote: > On Mar 13, 8:42?am, "ZenIsWhen" <hereslook...@you.com> wrote: > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > news:1173794713.588295.153670@t69g2000cwt.googlegroups.com... > > On Mar 13, 3:40?am, "freenorm" <freen...@verizon.net> wrote: > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > >news:1173757969.723707.286220@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > > > > On Mar 12, 3:07?pm, Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote: > > > >> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism > > > >> > Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote: > > > >> >> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism > > > >> >>> On Mar 12, 6:39?am, Elroy Willis wrote: > > > >> >>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism > > > >> >>>>> Our Father Which art in Heaven. > > > >> >>>> Where's heaven? Outer space? > > > >> >> > Where there is no sin. > > > >> >> So it can't possibly be on Earth, since sin is so rampant here, right? > > > >> > Earth will become part of the kingdom of heaven after Jesus Christ > > > >> > returns and the earth is cleansed of wickedness. > > > > > >> Jesus is gonna kill people? > > > > > > Malachi 4:1 For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven: > > > > and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble, > > > > and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of Hosts, > > > > that it shall leave them neither root nor branch. > > > > Robert B. Winn > > > > > If you believe that biblical bull shit!- Hide quoted text - > > > > I guess that you do not pay much attention to former vice-President Al Gore. > > Robert B. Winn > > > > What does Al Gore, and a scientific approach to climate change, have to do > > with your fables, fantasies and fairy tales?- Hide quoted text - > > > Well, it does not matter how scientific you pretend to be, you are not > going to be able to take the heat. Sorry to have to be the one to > tell you this. Sorry to have to be the one to tell you that's another non-responsive non sequitur. Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted March 13, 2007 Posted March 13, 2007 On Mar 13, 10:47�am, Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote: > rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism > > > Well, you atheists accuse God or Jesus Christ of murder every time > > a natural event or a death of any kind takes place. > > Actually, it's Christians like you who claim that only Jesus has the > power and right to give life and take it away, that's why abortion and > mercy killings and suicide are supposed to be wrong according to you > and your brainwashed ilk. > > > The fact is, though, all it would take to prevent this natural disaster > > would be the repentance of the people. > > That's what priests have been telling their congregations for > thousands of years. Quote
Guest JessHC Posted March 13, 2007 Posted March 13, 2007 rbwinn wrote: > On Mar 13, 8:40?am, "ZenIsWhen" <hereslook...@you.com> wrote: > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > news:1173797097.983303.247550@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > On Mar 13, 5:04?am, Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote: > > > freenorm <freen...@verizon.net> wrote in alt.atheism > > > > rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > > >> On Mar 12, 3:07?pm, Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote: > > > >>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism > > > >>>> Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote: > > > >>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism > > > >>>>>> On Mar 12, 6:39?am, Elroy Willis wrote: > > > >>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism > > > >>>>>>>> Our Father Which art in Heaven. > > > >>>>>>> Where's heaven? Outer space? > > > >>>>> > Where there is no sin. > > > >>>>> So it can't possibly be on Earth, since sin is so rampant here, right? > > > >>>> Earth will become part of the kingdom of heaven after Jesus Christ > > > >>>> returns and the earth is cleansed of wickedness. > > > >>> Jesus is gonna kill people? > > > >> Malachi 4:1 For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven: > > > >> and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble, > > > >> and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of Hosts, > > > >> that it shall leave them neither root nor branch. > > > >> Robert B. Winn > > > > If you believe that biblical bull shit! > > > > > Jesus is gonna be like those who kept the ovens at the Nazi > > > concentration camps burning. Quite a nice loving god he's got there, > > > don't you think? > > > > Well, you atheists accuse God or Jesus Christ of murder every time a > > natural event or a death of any kind takes place. ?The fact is, > > though, all it would take to prevent this natural disaster would be > > the repentance of the people. ?It is no different today than when > > Jonah propesied to Ninevah, Yet forty days and Ninevah will be > > destroyed. ?The people of Ninevah repented from the king on his throne > > to the begger in the street. ?Ninevah was not destroyed. > > Jonah went outside the city and prayed that he might die because his > > prophecy did not take place. > > Robert B. Winn > > > > Haven't been in touch with reality for a long time ..... huh?!?!?!- Hide quoted text - > > > Well, yes, I have. Reality is that no one has been killed by Jesus Christ. You're correct, because imaginary characters can't kill anyone. Which is a good thing, because your imaginary little deity is described as killing whole societies willy-nilly. Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted March 13, 2007 Posted March 13, 2007 On Mar 13, 10:49�am, Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote: > ZenIsWhen <hereslook...@you.com> wrote in alt.atheism > > > rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote: > >> Jesus is gonna be like those who kept the ovens at the Nazi > >> concentration camps burning. Quite a nice loving god he's got there, > >> don't you think? > > Well, you atheists accuse God or Jesus Christ of murder every time a > > natural event or a death of any kind takes place. > > Looks like ZenIsWhen is the same person as rbwinn. Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted March 13, 2007 Posted March 13, 2007 On Mar 13, 11:22?am, Sippuuden <s...@macrosoft.net> wrote: > Richo wrote: > > > The vast majority of things humans believe they do so without "proof" > > - but that doesnt make the beliefs foolish or unreasonable. > > That may be the doctrine in your religion, but not everyone agrees with > you. For instance: > > "The deepest sin against the human mind is to believe things without > evidence." -- Thomas Huxley, Evolution and Ethics Evidence does not work on atheists. They only acknowledge evidence which they believe supports their philosophy. Robert B. Winn Quote
Guest JessHC Posted March 13, 2007 Posted March 13, 2007 rbwinn wrote: > On Mar 13, 8:03?am, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote: > > rbwinn wrote: > > > On Mar 12, 4:59?pm, "Mettas Mother" <Mettas_Moth...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > Then who lied? > > > > > The people who accuse Jesus Christ of lying lied. > > > > Really. ?So who is still alive that was there listening to Jesus when > > he said "Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which > > shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his > > kingdom." (Matthew 16:28)? > > John 21:20 Then Peter, turning about, seeth the disciple whom Jesus > loved following: which also leaned on his breast at supper, and said, > Lord, which is he that betrayeth thee? > 21 Peter seeing him saith unto Jesus, Lord, and what shall this man > do? > 22 Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is > that to thee? follow thou me. So your response is to dodge the question, because you can't admit Jesus lied. Quote
Guest JessHC Posted March 13, 2007 Posted March 13, 2007 rbwinn wrote: > On Mar 13, 7:33?am, Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote: > > rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism > > > > > Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote: > > >> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism > > >>> Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote: > > >>>> Jesus is gonna kill people? > > >>> Malachi 4:1 ?or, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven: > > >>> and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble, > > >>> and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of Hosts, > > >>> that it shall leave them neither root nor branch. > > >> So Jesus is gonna burn up all the bad people? > > > The bad people are all going to burn up. > > > > What will Jesus be doing at that time? ?Stoking the fires? > > > Why don't you take it up with him? Explain how one can do that with an imaginary character. Quote
Guest JessHC Posted March 13, 2007 Posted March 13, 2007 rbwinn wrote: > On Mar 13, 5:04?am, Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote: > > freenorm <freen...@verizon.net> wrote in alt.atheism > > > rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > >> On Mar 12, 3:07?pm, Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote: > > >>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism > > >>>> Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote: > > >>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism > > >>>>>> On Mar 12, 6:39?am, Elroy Willis wrote: > > >>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism > > >>>>>>>> Our Father Which art in Heaven. > > >>>>>>> Where's heaven? Outer space? > > >>>>> > Where there is no sin. > > >>>>> So it can't possibly be on Earth, since sin is so rampant here, right? > > >>>> Earth will become part of the kingdom of heaven after Jesus Christ > > >>>> returns and the earth is cleansed of wickedness. > > >>> Jesus is gonna kill people? > > >> Malachi 4:1 ?For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven: > > >> and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble, > > >> and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of Hosts, > > >> that it shall leave them neither root nor branch. > > >> Robert B. Winn > > > If you believe that biblical bull shit! > > > > Jesus is gonna be like those who kept the ovens at the Nazi > > concentration camps burning. ?Quite a nice loving god he's got there, > > don't you think? > > Well, you atheists accuse God or Jesus Christ of murder every time a > natural event or a death of any kind takes place. Nope, but it's cute you try to lie about it. > The fact is, though, all it would take to prevent this > natural disaster would be the repentance of the people. That's a "fact," is it? Great, present your objective, verifiable evidence of that "fact." > It is no different today than when > Jonah propesied to Ninevah, Yet forty days and Ninevah will be > destroyed. The people of Ninevah repented from the king on his throne > to the begger in the street. Ninevah was not destroyed. > Jonah went outside the city and prayed that he might die because his > prophecy did not take place. When in doubt, resort to fairy tales. Quote
Guest JessHC Posted March 13, 2007 Posted March 13, 2007 rbwinn wrote: > On Mar 13, 4:53?am, Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote: > > rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism > > > > > > > > > > > > > Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote: > > >> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism > > >>> Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote: > > >>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism > > >>>>> On Mar 12, 6:39?am, Elroy Willis wrote: > > >>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism > > >>>>>>> Our Father Which art in Heaven. > > >>>>>> Where's heaven? Outer space? > > >>>> > Where there is no sin. > > >>>> So it can't possibly be on Earth, since sin is so rampant here, right? > > >>> Earth will become part of the kingdom of heaven after Jesus Christ > > >>> returns and the earth is cleansed of wickedness. > > >> Jesus is gonna kill people? > > > Malachi 4:1 ?For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven: > > > and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble, > > > and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of Hosts, > > > that it shall leave them neither root nor branch. > > > > So Jesus is gonna burn up all the bad people? > > > The bad people are all going to burn up. Sorry to have to be the one > to tell you this. I think you should be paying more attention to > former vice-President Al Gore. > Now, you say that you are going to blame Jesus for this event. Why > don't you discuss it with him after he returns to judge the earth? Better yet, why don't you cite the atheist you claim is going to blame a fictional character for anything. Quote
Guest JessHC Posted March 13, 2007 Posted March 13, 2007 rbwinn wrote: > On Mar 12, 4:59?pm, "Mettas Mother" <Mettas_Moth...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Then who lied? > > > The people who accuse Jesus Christ of lying lied. Seeing that Jesus is described as lying more than once in the bible, you're wrong. Quote
Guest JessHC Posted March 13, 2007 Posted March 13, 2007 rbwinn wrote: > On Mar 12, 4:54?pm, "Mettas Mother" <Mettas_Moth...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > It is not that I do not want to accept, but like to see jesus being crucified. so can you make the > > necessary arrangements. > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > > > news:1173737798.798364.161660@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > > > On Mar 12, 2:11?pm, "Mettas Mother" <Mettas_Moth...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > So is anyone saved by the atonement? > > > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > > > > >news:1173723597.337466.251030@t69g2000cwt.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > There would be no way anyone who sinned could be saved if the > > > > > atonement had not happened. > > > > > Robert B. Winn > > > > > On Mar 12, 9:03?am, "Mettas Mother" <Mettas_Moth...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > How do you know that the sins were atoned?- Hide quoted text - > > > > > Those who accept the atonement of Christ will be saved. ?Atheists say > > > they will not accept the atonement of Christ. > > > Robert B. Winn- > Well, that is what the scriptures say, those who refuse the atonement > of Christ crucify Him unto themselves again. So? It's a story; it isn't real. Quote
Guest JessHC Posted March 13, 2007 Posted March 13, 2007 rbwinn wrote: > On Mar 12, 2:14?pm, "Mettas Mother" <Mettas_Moth...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote in message > > news:1173724351.280332.283470@t69g2000cwt.googlegroups.com... > > > rbwinn wrote: > > > > Thank you, Jess. ?Wonderful to see you are studying the scriptures. > > > > > Yes, isn't it? ?It allows me to point out where Jesus was lying.- Hide quoted text - > > > > So have you converted him yet? > > > There is no way for me to convert Jess. Sure there is. I go on and on about it all the time; objective, verifiable evidence. For example, I presented objective, verifiable evidence that the fictional character "Jesus Christ" is described in the bible saying things that aren't true. > He wants to refuse the atonement of Christ. Nope. I merely reject your unsupported assertion. Quote
Guest Pastor Frank Posted March 13, 2007 Posted March 13, 2007 "rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message news:1173707615.467279.174200@q40g2000cwq.googlegroups.com... On Mar 12, 6:39�am, Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote: > rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism > > stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote: > >>>> Is your God male? > >>> Why do you ask? > >> To figure out how to properly talk about God. > > You don't have to figure it out. The example of how to pray was given > > by Jesus Christ. It starts, Our Father Which art in Heaven. > > Where's heaven? Outer space? > Where there is no sin. Robert B. Winn -------------------- Heaven is wherever Jesus Christ says it is. See below. "Outer space indeed!!!!! Pastor Frank Jesus in Lk 17:20-21: And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said: "The kingdom of God cometh not with observation. Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! For, behold, the kingdom of GOD IS WITHIN YOU." -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted March 13, 2007 Posted March 13, 2007 On Mar 13, 12:03�pm, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Mar 13, 8:42?am, "ZenIsWhen" <hereslook...@you.com> wrote: > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > >news:1173794713.588295.153670@t69g2000cwt.googlegroups.com... > > > On Mar 13, 3:40?am, "freenorm" <freen...@verizon.net> wrote: > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > > >news:1173757969.723707.286220@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > > > > > On Mar 12, 3:07?pm, Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote: > > > > >> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism > > > > >> > Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote: > > > > >> >> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism > > > > >> >>> On Mar 12, 6:39?am, Elroy Willis wrote: > > > > >> >>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism > > > > >> >>>>> Our Father Which art in Heaven. > > > > >> >>>> Where's heaven? Outer space? > > > > >> >> > Where there is no sin. > > > > >> >> So it can't possibly be on Earth, since sin is so rampant here, right? > > > > >> > Earth will become part of the kingdom of heaven after Jesus Christ > > > > >> > returns and the earth is cleansed of wickedness. > > > > > >> Jesus is gonna kill people? > > > > > > Malachi 4:1 For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven: > > > > > and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble, > > > > > and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of Hosts, > > > > > that it shall leave them neither root nor branch. > > > > > Robert B. Winn > > > > > If you believe that biblical bull shit!- Hide quoted text - > > > > I guess that you do not pay much attention to former vice-President Al Gore. > > > Robert B. Winn > > > > What does Al Gore, and a scientific approach to climate change, have to do > > > with your fables, fantasies and fairy tales?- Hide quoted text - > > > Well, it does not matter how scientific you pretend to be, you are not > > going to be able to take the heat. Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted March 13, 2007 Posted March 13, 2007 On Mar 13, 12:06�pm, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Mar 13, 8:40?am, "ZenIsWhen" <hereslook...@you.com> wrote: > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > >news:1173797097.983303.247550@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > > On Mar 13, 5:04?am, Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote: > > > > freenorm <freen...@verizon.net> wrote in alt.atheism > > > > > rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > > > >> On Mar 12, 3:07?pm, Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote: > > > > >>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism > > > > >>>> Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote: > > > > >>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism > > > > >>>>>> On Mar 12, 6:39?am, Elroy Willis wrote: > > > > >>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism > > > > >>>>>>>> Our Father Which art in Heaven. > > > > >>>>>>> Where's heaven? Outer space? > > > > >>>>> > Where there is no sin. > > > > >>>>> So it can't possibly be on Earth, since sin is so rampant here, right? > > > > >>>> Earth will become part of the kingdom of heaven after Jesus Christ > > > > >>>> returns and the earth is cleansed of wickedness. > > > > >>> Jesus is gonna kill people? > > > > >> Malachi 4:1 For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven: > > > > >> and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble, > > > > >> and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of Hosts, > > > > >> that it shall leave them neither root nor branch. > > > > >> Robert B. Winn > > > > > If you believe that biblical bull shit! > > > > > Jesus is gonna be like those who kept the ovens at the Nazi > > > > concentration camps burning. Quite a nice loving god he's got there, > > > > don't you think? > > > > Well, you atheists accuse God or Jesus Christ of murder every time a > > > natural event or a death of any kind takes place. ?The fact is, > > > though, all it would take to prevent this natural disaster would be > > > the repentance of the people. ?It is no different today than when > > > Jonah propesied to Ninevah, Yet forty days and Ninevah will be > > > destroyed. ?The people of Ninevah repented from the king on his throne > > > to the begger in the street. ?Ninevah was not destroyed. > > > Jonah went outside the city and prayed that he might die because his > > > prophecy did not take place. > > > Robert B. Winn > > > > Haven't been in touch with reality for a long time ..... huh?!?!?!- Hide quoted text - > > > Well, yes, I have. Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted March 13, 2007 Posted March 13, 2007 On Mar 13, 12:10�pm, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Mar 13, 8:03?am, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote: > > > rbwinn wrote: > > > > On Mar 12, 4:59?pm, "Mettas Mother" <Mettas_Moth...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > Then who lied? > > > > > The people who accuse Jesus Christ of lying lied. > > > > Really. ?So who is still alive that was there listening to Jesus when > > > he said "Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which > > > shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his > > > kingdom." (Matthew 16:28)? > > > John 21:20 Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted March 13, 2007 Posted March 13, 2007 On Mar 13, 12:10?pm, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Mar 13, 7:33?am, Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote: > > > rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism > > > > > Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote: > > > >> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism > > > >>> Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote: > > > >>>> Jesus is gonna kill people? > > > >>> Malachi 4:1 ?or, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven: > > > >>> and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble, > > > >>> and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of Hosts, > > > >>> that it shall leave them neither root nor branch. > > > >> So Jesus is gonna burn up all the bad people? > > > > The bad people are all going to burn up. > > > > What will Jesus be doing at that time? ?Stoking the fires? > > > Why don't you take it up with him? > > Explain how one can do that with an imaginary character.- Hide quoted text - > Well, if you believe he is imaginary, why did you ask if he was stoking fires? Robert B. Winn Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted March 13, 2007 Posted March 13, 2007 On Mar 13, 12:15�pm, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Mar 13, 5:04?am, Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote: > > > freenorm <freen...@verizon.net> wrote in alt.atheism > > > > rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > > >> On Mar 12, 3:07?pm, Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote: > > > >>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism > > > >>>> Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote: > > > >>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism > > > >>>>>> On Mar 12, 6:39?am, Elroy Willis wrote: > > > >>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism > > > >>>>>>>> Our Father Which art in Heaven. > > > >>>>>>> Where's heaven? Outer space? > > > >>>>> > Where there is no sin. > > > >>>>> So it can't possibly be on Earth, since sin is so rampant here, right? > > > >>>> Earth will become part of the kingdom of heaven after Jesus Christ > > > >>>> returns and the earth is cleansed of wickedness. > > > >>> Jesus is gonna kill people? > > > >> Malachi 4:1 ?For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven: > > > >> and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble, > > > >> and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of Hosts, > > > >> that it shall leave them neither root nor branch. > > > >> Robert B. Winn > > > > If you believe that biblical bull shit! > > > > Jesus is gonna be like those who kept the ovens at the Nazi > > > concentration camps burning. ?Quite a nice loving god he's got there, > > > don't you think? > > > Well, you atheists accuse God or Jesus Christ of murder every time a > > natural event or a death of any kind takes place. > > Nope, but it's cute you try to lie about it. > > > The fact is, though, all it would take to prevent this > > natural disaster would be the repentance of the people. > > That's a "fact," is it? Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted March 13, 2007 Posted March 13, 2007 On Mar 13, 12:21�pm, "JessHC" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Mar 13, 4:53?am, Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote: > > > rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism > > > > > Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote: > > > >> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism > > > >>> Elroy Willis <elroywil...@swbell.net> wrote: > > > >>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism > > > >>>>> On Mar 12, 6:39?am, Elroy Willis wrote: > > > >>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism > > > >>>>>>> Our Father Which art in Heaven. > > > >>>>>> Where's heaven? Outer space? > > > >>>> > Where there is no sin. > > > >>>> So it can't possibly be on Earth, since sin is so rampant here, right? > > > >>> Earth will become part of the kingdom of heaven after Jesus Christ > > > >>> returns and the earth is cleansed of wickedness. > > > >> Jesus is gonna kill people? > > > > Malachi 4:1 ?For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven: > > > > and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble, > > > > and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of Hosts, > > > > that it shall leave them neither root nor branch. > > > > So Jesus is gonna burn up all the bad people? > > > The bad people are all going to burn up. Quote
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