Guest thomas p. Posted February 15, 2007 Posted February 15, 2007 On 15 Feb., 04:14, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > On Feb 14, 4:47?pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > > > > > > On 13 Feb 2007 22:45:13 -0800, in alt.atheism > > "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote in > > <1171435509.605186.82...@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>: snip > > >I have never said that the Bible does not exist. ?Why do you tell such > > >incredibly silly lies? > > > Because he's under the delusion that the Bible counts as evidence if we > > admit that it exists.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > I do not think anything counts with you. So just continue to claim > that the Bible does not exist. And Twit Bobby's 2'nd rate clown routine continues in the service of atheism He is not much, but he works for nothing; so we should be grateful Quote
Guest bob young Posted February 15, 2007 Posted February 15, 2007 rbwinn wrote: > On Feb 13, 8:37?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > Free Lunch wrote: > > > On 13 Feb 2007 16:39:50 -0800, in alt.atheism > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in > > > <1171413590.219240.10...@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>: > > > >On Feb 12, 9:25 am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > >> On 12 Feb., 03:23, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > >> > On Feb 11, 4:10?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > >> > > ?Not even just one? > > > > > >> > > Damn, you'd think with all that omnipotence and ego, at least one god > > > >> > > would make itself known. > > > > > >> > Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible? > > > >> > Robert B. Winn > > > > > >> Why, don't you have any evidence to offer? > > > > > >All things that exist show that there is a God. > > > > [i must remember to add that 'little gem' to my list of > > 'Religious propagator's backs to the wall cop-out's] > > > > Well, Bob, you were willing to provide us with a list of evil > spirits. Why don't you make a list for us of the things that do not > show that there is a God? > Robert B. Winn with pleasure [Preface] "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." [stephen Roberts] Ahura Mazda, Allah, Aphrodite, Ares, Athena, Apollo, Artemis, Abalim[Judaic] Abba Amona[Judaic] Abraxis[Judaic] Adam Beliyya'al'[Judaic] Adam Kadmon[Judaic] Adonai[Judaic] Adonaiel[Judaic] Akatriel-Yah[Judaic] Alitha[Judaic] Alukah(Arpad Yiddish: Estrie)[Judaic] Anafiel[Judaic] Angels[Judaic] Archons[Judaic] Asherah(Asherah)[Judaic] Asmodeus(Asmodaios)[Judaic] Babaluaye, Bacchus, Baldur, Bast, Bellona, Brahma, Brigid, Baal[Judaic] Baal-Karmelos[Judaic] Bat Kol[Judaic] Beelzebub(Beelzebul Baalzebub)[Judaic] Belial(Beliar)[Judaic]iBethel[ Syrian] Ceres, Cupid, Cerridwen, Cthulhu Chashmal[Judaic] Chayyot[Judaic Demeter, Diana, Dione, Dionysus, Dagon[Judaic] Demiurge(Demiourgos Demogorgon)[Judaic] Demons[Judaic] Devekut[Judaic] Dever[Judaic] Dumiel[Judaic] Dybbuk[Judaic] Eris, Eos, Eleggua, , El Shaddai, Elohim Eshu, Ereshkigal, El(El 'Elyon)[Judaic] Elim[Judaic] Elohim[Judaic] Elom[Judaic Frigga, Frey, Freya, Gaea, Lord Genesa, Hades, Hebe, Hera, Helios, Hel, Hephaestus, Golem[Judaic] Ha-Shem[Judaic Hermes, Hestia, Horus, Ibeji, Ifa, Inanna, Indra, Ishana, Ishtar, ] Ibbur Elim[Judaic] Isis, Janus, Juno, Jehovah, Jove, Jupiter, Kali. Krishna Kronos, Korravai, Kefitzat ha-Derekh[Judaic] Loki, Lugh, Lord Indra, Lilith[Judaic] Lotan[Judaic] Manitou, Mars, Mercury, Minerva, Mercurius, Morrigan Makon[Judaic] Mammon[Judaic] Mastema[Judaic] Mazikeen[Judaic] Mazzikin[Judaic] Memra[Judaic/Aramaic] Metatron[Judaic] Moloch[Judaic, Nahuiquiahuitl, Nanahuatzin, Nephthys, Nechushtan[Judaic]Nibhaz[Judaic] Neptune, Nerthus. Obatala, Odin, Ogun, Obizoth[Judaic] Ofanim(Ophanim Galgallim)[Judaic] Oniel Oshosi, Oshun, Osiris, Oya, Orunmila, Olokun, Olodumare, Pluto, Padkaras[Judaic] Piznai[Judaic] Potah[Judaic] Persephone, Poseidon, Proserpina, Quetzalcoatl, Ra, Lord Rama, Rhea, Ras Tafari Ragshiel[Judaic] Rahav[Judaic] Reshef[Judaic](Plague) Saturn, Set, Satan[Judaic]( Shabbat Hamalka[Judaic] Shekhina[Judaic](Shekina Shechina)Judaism Sophia[Judaic](Hakhma Chochma) Selene, Shango, Lord Siva, Tammuz, Thor, Tir, Tiw, Tanin'iver[Judaic](Blinddragon) Tannin[Judaic] Tarshishim[Judaic] Terafim(Teraphim)[Judaic] Tzadikiel[Judaic] Tzakadhazy[Judaic] Tzelanit[Judaic] Tzeruf[Judaic] Tzohar[Judaic] Uranus, Venus, Vesta, Vishnu, Vesta, Vulcan, Wotan, Yahweh, Yemaya, Zeus, XodA. [Judaic] Watcher[Judaic]Yhwh[yahweh][Judaic] Yeddeoni[Judaic] Yekum[Judaic]Yohani bat Retiviv[Judaic] Zadkiel[Judaic]I Zar[Judaic African gods: [Note under 'African Gods' the number devoted to 'Supremacy'] Abassi [sky] Abonsam [Evil] Abora [supreme] Abzu [Water] Acoran [supreme] Adaheli [sun] Adro [sky] Adroa [sky] Agassou [Panther] Agbe-Naete [Water] Age [Animals] Aigamuxa [Monster] Ajalamo[unborn Children] Aje [Wealth] Ajok [supreme] Akonadi [Oracle] Akongo [supreme] Akuj [supreme] Ala [Earth/Fertility] Alatangana [Creator] Amma [Creator] Anansi [Trickster] Anyiewo [snake] Aondo [Creator] Apa [Creator] Apedemak [War] Arawa [Moon] Arebati [sky] Arom [Contracts] Arsan Duolai [underworld] Asase Ya [Earth] Ashiakle [Wealth] Asis [sun] Astar [sky] Ataa Naa Nyongmo [Creator] Ataokoloinona [supreme] Atete [Fertility] Avrikiti [Fishermen] Ayabba [Ayaba] [Hearth] Bacax [Cave] Bagba [Wind] Balubaal [Earth+] Bandara [superior Gods] Banga [Clear water] Behanzin [Fish] Beher [sea] Bera Pennu [Vegetation] Bo [Warriors] Bomazi[Ancestors] Buadza [WInd] Buck[River] Buku [sky] Bumba [Creator] Cagn [Creator] (!Kaggen) Cghene [Creator] Chiuke (Chuku) [Creator] Chiata [supreme] Chwezi [Hero] Col [Rain] Chikara [sky] Danh (Dan Ayido Hwedo) [snake] Deng [sky] Deohako [beans+] Dii Mauri [Moorish Gods] Dongo [Outer Space] Dugbo [Earth] Dxui [Creator] Emeli-hi [supreme] Eranoranhan [Protector] Eshu (Elegba) [Trickster] Fa [Destiny] Famien [Fertility] Faro [sky/Water] Fidi Mukullu [Creator] Garang and Abuk [First Humans] Gbeni [Chief] Gei (Gou) [Moon] Gu [War/Smiths] Gua [sky] Gulu [supreme] Gunab [Evil] Guruhi [Evil] Gurzil [bull] Gwalu [Rain] Hammon [setting Sun] Harun and Haruna [Water Spirits] Heitsi-Eibib [sorcerer] Hevioss [Thunder] Huntin [Tree] Huvean [Creator] Ifa [Oracul] Ikenga [supreme] Imana [Creator] Iruwa [sun] Juok [Creator] Kalumba [Creator] Kalunga Supreme] Katavi [Demonic] Ka Tyeleo [supreme] Khebieso [Lightening] Kho-dumo-dumo [Demon] Kholomodumo [Monster] Khuzwane [Creator] Kibuka [War] Kokola [Guardian] Kwammang-a [supreme] Kwoth [spirit] Kyala [Creator] Legba [Trickster] Leza [Chief] Libanza [supreme] Lisa [Chameleon] Lyangombe[Chief] Macardit [Demon] Mantis [Creator] Massim-Biambe [Creator] Mawu [sky] Mawu-Lisa [supreme Couple] Mbotumbo [supreme] Medr [Earth] Moomb [Creator] Mon [?] Mugasa Mugu [sky] Mujaji [Rain] Mukasa [supreme] Mula Djadi [Creator] Muluku [supreme] Mulungu Mungu [Creator] Mungo (Mungu) [?] Musa (Teaching] Musisi [supreme] Mwari [supreme] Nampa [Personal] Nana-Bouclou [First Gods] Nana Buluk [Creator] Ndjambi [sky] Ndriananahary [supreme] Nduru [Jungle] Nenaunir [storm] Nesshoue [River] Ngai ('Ngai) [Creator] Ngewo-wa [Creator] Ngworekara [Demon] Niamye [supreme] Nkosi Yama'kosi [supreme] Nommo [Elemental] Nommo [spirit] Nyama [Animal] Nyambe [supreme] Nyambi (Nyambe) [supreme] Nyame Nyami-Nyami [Guardian] Nyankopon (Ashanti:Nyame) [supreme] Nyamia Ama [supreme] Nyasaye [supeme] Nzambi (Nzambi) Mpunguo) [supreme] Nzame [supreme] Obassi Osaw [supreme] Obatala [sky] Oduduwa (Odudua) [Earth] Ogun (Ogoun) War] Olokula [sea] Olorun [supreme] Omumbo-Rombonga [Tree of Life] Orahan [supreme] Orisa Nla [Creator] Orishako [Agriculture] Orunjan [Midday Sun] Orunmila [Compassion] Oshalla [?] Osun [beauty and Love] Oya [Passion and Power] Pemba (Bemba) Mother] Qandisa [Demon] Qamata[Quamta] Supreme] Rock-Sene [supreme] Ruwa [supreme] Sagbata [smallpox] Sakarabru [Medicine] Sakpata [smallpox] Sango [Thunder] Shango [Thunder] So [Lightening] Tano [River] Tore [Forest] Trowu[spirits] Tsui'goab [Rain] Twe [Lake] Umvelinqangi [Creator] Unkulunkulu [supreme] Unumbotte [Creator] Waka [Rain] Wele [supreme] Wulbari [supreme] Wuni [supreme] Xewioso [Thunder] Yemaja [Creation] Yo [impersonal] Zin [Water] Table of Asian Gods: BUDDHIST Abhijnaraja [Physician] Abhimukhi [One of the Bhumis] Acala [?] Adhimukticarya [One of the Bhumis] Adhimuktivasita [One of the Bhumis] Adibuddha [First] Adidharma [Primeval] Aizen Myo-o [Protective] Ajaya [?] Akasagarbha(Tibetan Nam-mkhai Aksayajnana-Karmanda [Literature] Aksobhya (Japanese Ashuku, Chinese A-Chu'u) [One of the Dhyani] Amida [savior] Amitabha [A Dhyani] Amitayus [Longevity] Amoghapasa [see Avalokitesvara] Amoghasiddhi [A Dhyani] Anantamukhi [Literature] Arapacana [book and Sword] Arcismati [bhumis] Arhat [A Saint] Arthapratisamvit [Logical Analysis] Arya-Tara [sakti] Asokakanta [avatar Marici] Asokottamasri [Physician] Astabhuja-Kurukulla [avatar Kurukulla] Asura [Group of Demons] Avalokitesvara(Avalokita, Lokesvara) [Dhyani Present Age] Ayurvasita[One vasitas] Balaparamita [Philosophy] Bhaisajyaguru(Sman-bla, Otaci,Yao-shih-fo, Yakushi)[Physician] Bhima[Attendant] Bhrkuti[Female] Bhrkuti-Tara [Mother] Bhumi [spiritual Spheres] Bhutadarma [Demon Controller] Bi-har [Protector] Bodhidharma [Monk] Bodhisattva (Chinese Pu-sa) [born to be Englightened] Buddhabodhiprabhavasita [Vasitas] Buddhalocana [Female Buddha] Budha [Mercury] Butcho [?] Chandarosana [Mahayana] Charcika (Carcika) [Mahayana] Chakravartin [World Ruler] Chattrosnisa [An Usnisa] Chaturmaharajas (Caturmaharajas) [Four Great Kings] Chittavista [Vashitas] Citipati [Graveyard Demons] Cunda [Literature] Da-shi-zhi [bodhisattva] Dadimunda [Temples] Dainichi' [Purity/Wisdom] Dakini [Demons] Dala Kadavara [Demon] Devaputra [Gods of Lower Rank] Dhanada [avatar Amoghasiddhi] Dharani [Mystical Texts] Dharmadhatuvagisvara [Dharma] Dharmakirtisagaraghosa [Physician] Dharmamegha [bhumis] Dharmapala ,Chinese Fu Ha [Protective Dieties] Dharmapratisamvit [Nature Analysis] Dharmavasita [Vasitas] Dhritarashtra (Pali Dhatarattha) [One of the 4 World Guardians] Dhupa [Mother] Dhupatara [Mahayana] Dhvajagrakeyura [avatar Aksobhya] Dhyanaparamita [Philosophy] Dhyani-Bodhisattvas [Five Bodhisattvas] Dhyani-Buddhas [Five Meditators] Di-zang [bodhisattvas of Hell] Dvarapala [?] Ekajata [Terrible] Emma-o [Judges the Dead] Fudo [WIsdom] Guan Yin [bodhisattva] Hariti [Ate Children] Hayagriva [Protection] Heruka [Protection] Hevajra [Protection] Ida-Ten [Law/Monestaries] Jambhala [avatar Vausravana] Janguli [snakebite cure] Jian Lao [Earth/Permanence] Jizo [Compassion] Juichimen [Mercy] Kali devia [avatar Lha-mo] Kannon [Japanese bodhisattva] Khasarpana(Khasarpana-Lokesvara) [indian bodhisattva] Ki Fudo [avatar Fudo-Myo-o] Krodhadevatas [inspire Terror] Ksitigarbha [One of 8 bodhisattva] Kuan-yin (Kwannon) [Mercy] Kujaku Myoo [Esoteric] Kurukulla [?] Locana [?] Mahasthamaprata [Chinese bodhisattva] Maitreya [Future] Manjughosa [Nepalese bodhisattva] Manjusri [bodhisattva] Mara [Evil] Marici [sun] Mi-lo Fo (Pu-Sa) [Chinese bodhisattva Miroku [Japanese bodhisattva Mo-Li [Protects Temples] Padmanartesvara [avatar Bodhisattva Avalokitesvara] Pancaraksa[5 Goddesses] Pandara [?] Paramasva [?] Parnasavari [?] Prajna [Femaleness] Prajnaparamita [buddhist Text] Ran-deng [beggar and Future Buddha] Ratnapani [Dhyani-Bodhisattva] Ratnasambhava [Dhyani-Buddha] Remanta [King of the Horse gods] Sakyamuni [Japanese] Samantabhadra [bodhisattvas] Saptaksara [avatar Heruka] Shakra [King of the Gods] Ssu Ta T'ien Wang [Kings of Heaven] Sumbharaja [buddhist Krodhadevata] Tennin (Tennyo) [angels] Usnisavijaya [?] Vairocana [Dhyani-Buddhas] Vaisravana (Pali Vessavana, Chinese Do Wen) [Guards World] Vajrabhairava [?] Vajrapani [bodhisattvas] Vajrasattva [Nepal Dhyani-Buddha] Vajravarahi [?] Vajrayogini [initiation] Vajrayogini [Riches] Vidyadharas [?] Vidyujjvalakarali [?] Vighnantaka [?] Virudhaka (Pali Virulha, Chinese Zheng Zhang) [Guards World] Virupaksa (Pali Virupakkha, Chinese Guand Mu) [Guards Western Heaven] Visvapani [Dhyani-Bodhisattva] We-to [Divine General] Yakushi Nyorai [Healing] Yama [?] Yamantaka [Krodhadevatas] Zhu Dian (Zhu Tian) [Chinese Buddhist gods] CHINESE GODS Ao [sea] Awun [Destruction] Ba [Drought] Ba Gua [basis of Divination] Bo Hsian [Taoist] Cai-Shen [Riches] Can Cong [silkworms] Cao Guo-jiu [Actors] Chang Fei [War] Chang Hs'ien [Children] Chang Kuo-lao [?] Ch'ang E (Ch'ang-o Huang E) [Moon] Chang Tao Ling [Afterlife] Cheng-huang (Ch'eng Huang) [Guardians] Chen Jen [spiritual Beings] Cheng San-Kung [Fishermen] Cheng Yuan Ho (Ch'ang-o Huang E) [buskers] Chih Nu [Weavers] Chih Sung-Tzu (Chi Sung Tzu) [Rain] Chih-Yu [inventor] Ch'in-Shu-Pao [Guardian] Chou Wang [sodomy] Chu-Chuan Shen [Pigsties] Chu Jung [Fire] Chu Lung [Day/Night] Chung K'uei [Afterlife] Chung-li Ch'uan [immortal] Confucius [Philosopher] Di Zhang Xia [?] Dong-yo Da-di [Helps Sky God] Erh-Lang [Guardian] Fan-K'uei [butchers] Fei Lien (Fei Lian) [Wind] Feng-Huang (Hoang-female Phuong-male) [Many Meanings] Feng Po (Feng-Po) [Human form of the wind] Feng P'o-p'o (Feng-Po-Po) [Female wind] Fo [buddha] Fu His [Taught Humanity] Fu Hsing [Happiness] Fu Shen [Happiness] Fu-Shou-Lu [Collection of Gods] Fu-xi [Hero] Gao Yao (Ting-jian) [Judgement] Gong Gong [Common Workers] Gou Mang and Ru Shou [Messengers] Guan Di (Kuan Ti) [War/Fortune Telling] Gui Xian [Demon] Han Hsiang [immortal] Han Xiang-zi [immortal] He Bo (Bing-yi) [Rivers] Heng E (Change-e) [Moon] He Xian-gu [immortal] Heng-Ha-Erh-Chiang [Temples] Heng-o [Moon] Ho Hsien-ku [immortal] Ho Po [River] Hou Chi [Harvest] Hou I [Archer] Hou T'u [Earth] Hsien [Taoists] Hsi Ho [sun's Creator] Hsi Wang Mu [Guardian] Hsuan-T'ien-Shang-Ti [Dark Heaven] Hua Hsien [Flower] Huang-di (Huang Ti) (Shun) [Hero] Huang Fei-hu (Fei) [Mountain] Hu-Shen [Hail] I [bowmen] Infoniwoo [Generation] I-Ti [Wine] K'ai Lu Shen [Purges Evil] Kuan Yu [War] K'uei Hsing [Examinations] Lan Cai-he [immortal] Lao T'ien Yeh [supreme] Lao-Tzu (Lao-zi) [Philosopher] Lei Kung [storm] Lei-zi [Thunder] Li [Fire] Li Tie-guai [immortal] Liu [Crops] Lu Dong-bin (Lu Yan) [immortal] Lu-Hsing [salaries/Employees] Lung Wang [Dragon King] Lupan [Carpenters] Ma-Mien [bureaucrat] Meng (Meng P'o) [underworld] Meng-T'ien [Writing Brush] Men Shen [Doors, includes sometimes Wei Cheng] Mu Gong [immortals] Niu-Y'oun [Police] Nu Gua (Nu Kua, Nu Wa) [Creator and Marriage] O-Mi-T'o Fo [Amitabha] Pa [Drought] Pa-Cha [Anti-locusts] Pa-Hsien [Eight Immortals] P'an-Chin-Lien [Prostitues] 'P'an Ku (Panku, Pangu) [Cosmos] Pi-Hsia-Yuan-Chun [Childbirth] Puhsien [sun] Ran-deng [Future Buddha] San Ch'inga [Three Taos] Shang Di (Shang Ti) [supreme] She Chi (Thu) [Earth] Shen [spirit] Sheng Jen [Holy] Shen-nong(Shen Nung) [Hero] Shen-T'u [Guardian] Shen Yi [sun] Shiang Ku [Magician] Shih-Tien Yen-Wang [Committe of Ten] Shou-Hsing [Longevity] Shou Lao (Shou Xing Lao Tou-zi) [Long Life] Shou-Ts'ang [servant] Shui-Fu [Water] Shui-Kuan [Defender] Ssu Ming [Life and Death] Sung-Chiang [Theives] Sun Hou-Tzu [Monkey] Sun Hou-zi [Apes] Sun-Pin [Cobblers] T'ai I [High] Tai-sui-xing [Time] Tai-yi [sky] T'ai Yueh Ta Ti (Tung-Yueh-Ta-Ti, T'ai-Yo, Ta-Ti) [Peak] Thu [Earth] Tian [sky] Tian-zhu [Catholic] Tien (T'ien) [sky] Tien-Hou (T'ien Fei) [Heaven] T'ien-Kuan [Happiness] T'ien Lung [Dragon] Tien Mu [Lightening] Tien-Wang (Mo-Li) [Kings] Ti-Kuan [Foregiveness] Ti Nu (Ti-ya) [Earth] Ti-Tsang-Wang-Pu-Sa [Mercy] Ti Yu [Afterlife] Tou Nu [North Star] Ts'ai-Lun [stationers] Ts'ai Shen [Wealth] Tsan [Demons] Ts'ang Chien [Hearth] Tsao Shen [?] Tsao-Wang [Hearth] Tu [Earth] Tung Wang Kung [Ruled Male Immortals] T'u-ti (Ti-Ti) [Locality] Wang [Palace Door] Wang-Mu-Niang-Niang [Guardian] Wen Ch'ang (Wen-Chang-Ta-Ti) [Literature] Wen-Shu Yen-K'ung [Manjushri] Wen Pu [Epidemics] Wu Ti [Myth] Xian [spirits] Xi-Wang-mu [immortality] Yama [seventh hell] Yan-lo (Yan Wang) [underworld Prince] Yao [Wind Conqueror] Yao-shi-fo [Physician] Yao Wang [Medicine] Yeng-Wang-Yeh [Death] Yen Wang (Yen Lo) [underworld Judge] Yin and Yang [Male and Female] Yo Fei [War] Yu-Chiang [Ocean Winds] Yu-di (Yu Huang) [supreme] Yueh Fei [War] Yu Huang (Yu-Huang-Shang-Ti) [High] Yun T'ung [Clouds] Yu-qiang [sea] Yu Shih [Rain] Yu-tzu [Rain] Zao Jun [Kitchen] Zhang Guo-lao [immortal] Zhong-Kui [Literature and Examinations] Zhong-li Quan [immortal] [sources: Brief History of Ancient Chinese Mythology] Finnish Gods: Ahto [Water] Akka [Harvest] Egres [Vegetation/Fertility] Hiisi [Forest/Evil] Ilma [Air] Ilmarinen [sky] Inmar [sky] Juma [sky] Jumala (Mader-Atcha, Ukk) [Thunder+] Kalevanpojat [Demons] Kalma [Death] Kekri [Fertility Feast] Kipu-Tytto [illness] Kondos [sowing Crops] Kuu [Moon] Lemminkainen [Hero] Louhi [sorcery/Evil] Loviatar [Disease] Luonnotar [Creator] Madderakka [Dwarves] Maahiset [Dwarves] Naaki [Water] Nyrckes [?] Olmai (Olmay) [Divine properties] Pajainen [?] Pajonn [Thunder] Para [Goblin Like] Pellonpekko [barley] Raudna [?] Rutu [Devil] Sampsa [Vegetation] Seides [stones] Rauni [?] Tapio [Forest] Tiermes [Thunder] Tuoni [underworld Tursas [Monster] Ukko (Isainen) [Thunder] Vainamoinen [Hero] Veralden-radien [World Pillars] Waralden Olmai [World] JAPANESE GODS Aji-Suki-Taka-Hi-Kone (Aji-Shiki-Taka-Hiko-Ne) [Thunder] Ama-No-Minakanushi-No-Kumi [Pole Star] Ame-No-Oshido-Mimi [Refusal] Ama-No-Uzume [Fertility] Ama-Tsu-Kami [Heavenly Gods] Amatsu Mikaboshi [Evil] Ame-No-Hohi [Disappeared] Ame-No-Wakahiko [Ruled Earth] Bimbo-Gami [Poverty] Bishamon [War] Chimata-No-Kami [Rain/Sea] Daikoku [Wealth] Ebisu [Labor] Fuchi [Fire] Fukurokuju (Fukuro kuju) [Wisdom] Futsunushi [Lightening] Gozu-Tenno [Plague] Haya-Ji (Haya-Tsu-Muji-No-Kami) [Whirlwind] Hikohohodemi [Hero] Hinokagutsuchi [Fire] Hiruko [Morning Sun] Hoderi [?] Hisa-Me [Devils] Ho-Masubi (Kagu Zuchi) [Fire] Hosuseri [?] Hotei [Laughter] Inari [Prosperity] Izanagi [Creator] Izanami [Mother] Jikoku [Guardians] Jimmu Tenno [Founder] Jurojin (Jorojin) [Longevity] Kagu-tsuchi [Fire] Kamado-gami [Hearth] Kami [Divinities] Kami-Musubi (Kami-mi-masubi) [?] Kami-Nari [Thunder] Kamui [sky] Kappa [Water] Kawa-No-Kami [Rivers] Kishijoten [Luck] Kishimojin [Demon] Komoku [south] Kompira [Wealth] Kono-Hana-Sakuya-Hime (Kono-no-hana-saku-ya-hime) [?] Kono-Hana-Sakuya-Hime Kuni-Toko-tachi [First] Kuni-Tsu-Kami [Earth] Kura-Okami [Rain/Snow] Nai-No-Kami [Earthquakes] Naka-Yama-Tsu-Mi [Mountain Slopes] Ningyo [Mermaid] Ninigi [Ruler Earth] O-Kuni-Nushi (Okuninushi) [Medicine/Sorcery] Onamuji [Earth] Omiwa [Protective] Oni [Demons] O-Wata-Tsumi [sea] O-Yama-Tsu-Mi (O-yama-tsuni) [Mountain] Raiden [Thunder] Ryo-Wo [sea] Ryujin (Ryugin) [Thunder/Rain] Sae-No-Kami [Roads] Sengen-Sama [Guarded Holy Moutain] Sennin [immortals] Shichi-Fukujin [Luck] Shiko-Me [Devils] Shine-Tsu-Hiko [Wind] Shitatera-Hime [?] Shi-tenno [Cardinal Direction Guardians] Shojo [satyrs] Soko-No-Kuni [underworld] Suitengu [sea] Sukuna-bikone (Suku-na-biko) [Hot Springs] Shoki [Enemy of Devils] Susanowo (Susanoo, Susa-no-wo) [storms] Takamimusubi (Taka-mi-masubi) [Royal Family] Takemikadzuchi [Thunder] Take-Mi-Musubi [sun] Taki-Tsu-Hiko [Rain] Tatsuta-hime [Autumn] Ten-gu (Tengu) [Mountain/Forest] Tenjin (Temmangu) [Learning/Calligraphy] Tsuki-Yomi (Tsukiyomi) [Moon] Uji-gami [Ancestors] Uke-Mochi-No-Kami (Ukemochi, Waka-Uke-Nomi, Toyo-Uke-Bime) [Fertility and Food] Uzume [Mirth] Wakahiru-me [Rising Sun]\ Wata-tsu-mi [sea] Yabune [House] Zocho [south] Shinto Amaterasu [sun] Ama-Tsu-Mara [smiths] Ame-No-Kagase-Wo [Astral] Ame-No-Mi-Kumari-No-Kami [Water] Amenominakanushi (Ame-No-Minaka-Nushi-No-Kami) [supreme] Am-No-Tanabata-Hime-No-Mikoto [Weavers] Ame-No-Toko-Tachi-No-Kami [Elemental] Ame-no-uzume [Dancers] Benten (Benten-San, Benzaiten, Benzaiten) [Eloquence+] Fujin [Wind] Hachiman [War] Ho-musubi [Fire] Kami [idols] SOUTH ASIAN GODS Cao Dai(Chinese: Gao-Tai) [supreme] Debata [?] Empung Luminuut [?] Hainuwele [?] Hananim [sky] Hmin [Ague] Karei [supreme] Kinharingan [Creator] Kud [Evil] Laseo [sun] Lature Dano [supreme] Lowalangi(Lowalani) [World Above] Mahatala (Mahataral) [supreme?] Ma-zu [?] Nanmata (Namite) [Primeval] Narbrooi [Woodlands] Nemu [Primodial] Palk [sun] Puang Matowa [sky] Pulug [Thunder] Reahu [Dark Demon] Rigenmucha [supreme] Silewe Nazarata [?] Sirao [First] Ta Pedn [?] Tnong [sun] Tumbrenjak [Original Man] Upulevo [sun] Wunekau [sun] CENRAL AND WEST ASIAN GODS Abyrga [snake] Afi [Rain/Thunderstorms] Aitvaras [Evil] Alardi [spirit] Aralo [Agriculutre] Armaz [supreme] Auseklis (Ausrine) [stellar] Baba [spirit] Baba Yaga (Jezi-Baba) [Ogress] Bagvarti [?] Bangputys [sea] Bannik [baths] Bagisht [Flood/Prosperity] Barastir (Barastaer) [underworld] Bardha [Elves] Beg-tse (Cam-srin) [War] Beng [satan] Biegg-Olmai [Wind] Bogatyri [Heroes] Boldogasszony (Kisboldogasszony) [Protector Women/Children] Bolla (Bullar) [Demon] Buga [supreme] Bukura e dheut [Good Spirit] Bukuri e qiellit [Jehovah] Byelobog (Bielbog) [?] Byelun [?] Chernobo(Czarnobog, Czerneboch, Cernobog) [?] Chors [sun] Dabog [sun] Deive [stone Spirits] Dieva deli [?] Dievini [Less Known Gods] Dievs [sky] Djall [Devil] Domovoi (Domovoy) [Household] Donbittir [Water/Fish] Drag-gshed [Eight Terrible Gods] Dud [Heavenly Spirit] Dvorovoi [Courtyard] Dyavo [Demons] En [?] Erlik [King of the Dead] Es [sky] Fatit [Destiny] Fene [Demon] Gabija (Gabieta, Gabeta) [Fire] Gabjauja [Corn] Giltine [Death] Guta [Demon] Hadur [War] Himavat [Himalayas] Horagalles [War] Isdustaya and Papaya [Fate] Isten [supreme] Jagaubis [Fire] Jarovit (Gerovitus) [War] Jessis [avatar Jupiter] Jumis [Fertility] Juras Mate [Water] Kaka-Guia [Funerary] Kalvis [smith] Karta [Fate] Kaukas [?] Khors [Health/Hunting] Khyung-gai mGo-can [?] Kikimora [Household] K'op'ala [Protective] Kukuth (Kukudhi) [sickness] Kulshedra (Kucedre) [Demon] Kun-tu-bzan-po [Chief Bon] Kupala [Water/Magic/Herbs] Kurdalaegon [blacksmiths] Laima [Fate] Lamaria [Hearth] Laskowice (Leshcia) [Forest] Lauka Mate [Fields/Fertility] Laume [Fairy] Leshy [Forest] Lha [bon Gods] Lhamo [?] Ljeschi (Lychie) [Fauns and Satyrs] Ljubi [Demon] Manzasiri [Primeval] Mate [Mother] Mati Syra Zemlya [Earth] Medeine (Mejdejn) [Woods] Meness [Moon] Menulis [Moon] Meza Mate [Nature] Mirsa [Light] Mokos [Fertility] Mu (rMu) [Heavenly] Muma Padura [Wood] Myesyats (Czarnobog, Czerneboch, Cernobog) [Moon] Nang Lha [Household] Nari [Demon] Nari [sky] Num [sky] Odqan [Fire] Ora [Protective] Ordog [Dark] Pekar (Pehar) [Demon] Peko [barley] Perendi [Jehovah] Perit [Mountain Spirits] Perkons [Thunder] Perkunas [Thunder] Perun (Peroun) [Thunder] Polevik [Field] Poludnitsa [Field] Pon [sky] Porenutius (Porevit) [?] Preas Eyn [?] Preas Eyssaur [Destructive] Preas Prohm [Primeval] Prende (Prenne) [Love] Psezpolnica (Polish Poludnica) [Midday] Pugu [sun] Qormusta (Chormusta) [High] Rugievit [War] Rusalki (Rusalka) [Water/Woodlands] Safa [Weapens] Sanda [?] Sarkany [Weather] Saule [sun] Saules meitas [?] Selardi [Moon] Shen-Lha-od-dkar [bon] Shen-rab [Founder Bon] Sipe Gyalmo [bon] Shiwini [sun] Shosshu [smiths] Siwini [sun] Srat [Demon] Sri [Demon] Sridevi [?] Stribog [Winds] Svantevit (Svantoveit, Svantovitus) [War/Agriculture] Svarog [sky] Syen [Guardian] Stihi [Demon] Teljavelik [Heavenly Smith] Telyaveli [smiths] Tengri [Heavenly Beings] Tesheba [Weather] Thab-lha [Hearth] Triglav (Trigelawus) [War] Uacilla [Thunder/Rain] Ulgen [Creator] Urme [Fate] Usins [?] Vadatajs [Evil] Vampire [soul of Dead] Veela [Kindess] Veja mate [Winds] Veles (Volos) [underworld] Velnias [Devil] Velu mate [Dead] Verbti [Fire/North Wind] Vila [Water] Vilkacis (Lithuanian Vilkatas) [Werewolf] Vlkodlaks (Vookodlaks) [Werewolf] Vodnik [Demon] Vodyanoi [Water] Volos (Volusu) [Cattle] We [supreme] Xhindi [spirits] Yarilo [Love] Zaltys [Grass Snake] Zemepatis (Zemempatis) [supreme] Zemes mate [Mother] Zemyna (Zemyneles) [Earth] Zorya [Guardian] Zvezda Dennitsa and Zvezda Vechernyaya [Morning and Evening Star] SIBERIAN GODS Ai Tojon [Light] Ajysyt [Mother] Anky-Kele [sea] Ayi [Creator] Hittavainen, Hittauanin [Hare-Hunters] Hinkon [Death Demon] K'daai [Fire Demon] Kaltes [The Goddess] Ke'lets [Death Demon] Kurkil [Creator] Kutkinnaku [Good Spirit] Mayin [supreme] Picvu'cin [Hunting/Wild Animals] Shurdi [Thunderstorms] Tomam [bird] Tomor(Tomorr) [Father Creator] Xucau [supreme] Ye'loje (Pugu) [sun] Quote
Guest Pastor Frank Posted February 15, 2007 Posted February 15, 2007 "jls" <jls1016@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:1171409278.775617.84130@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com... > On Feb 12, 10:41 pm, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >> > >> > All of those books exist just as the books titled Harry Potter exist. >> > That >> > doesn't mean that the contents are unquestionable. >> >> > Klazmon.- Hide quoted text - >> > - Show quoted text - >> >> Well, there is a woman who claims she wrote all of the Harry Potter >> books. Now you say that all of the books of the Bible exist. Did >> they just materialize, or were they written also? >> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text - >> - Show quoted text - > > Nobody has challenged the authorship of the Harry Potter books, the > first having been written by a divorcee in Scotland while she was on > public assistance, and the books don't claim to be anything other than > fiction. But the bible claims to be true, claims to be the inspired > word of a god, despite that it does not stand up to scrutiny as > history and appears at best to be the fiction of unknown writers who > believed the earth was the center of the universe and that the sun > revolved around the earth. > Non sequitur!! You apparently haven't noticed yet that holy scripture is dedicated to character development and not to science nor history, the latter merely being used as vehicles to illustrate what it means to be empathic and humane. The kingdom of heaven is a utopian construct of a selfless world, where people love each other, and care more about others than themselves. See below Pastor Frank Jesus in Jn:13:34: A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. Jesus in Jn:13:35: By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another. Jesus in Jn:15:12-13: This is my commandment: That ye love one another, as I have loved you. Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. Jesus in John 14:15 "If you love me, you will obey what I command..." Jesus in John 14:21-24 "Whoever has my commands and obeys them, he is the one who loves me. He who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love him and show myself to him. He who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me." -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Quote
Guest bob young Posted February 15, 2007 Posted February 15, 2007 Pastor Frank wrote: > "thomas p." <tonyofbexar@yahoo.dk> wrote in message > news:1171373671.036882.157370@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... > > The Bibles exist. They are not evidence for any god. Stop being so > extremely stupid - or dishonest. > ------------------ > > 'Dishonest'? Your definition of the word "god" is dishonest. There is no > evidence of any god of YOUR definition, for the god or devil of your > definition doesn't exist. You make sure of that, by giving that word the > most ridiculous and "extremely stupid" definition possible. > We know our Christian God and have seen Him in Christ Jesus on the cross > of Calvary, giving His precious and innocent life for us sinners. Yes we know your god Frnk it is 'a state of mind', as you have claimed more times than i care to remember, 'A state of mind' begats it's own son - it don't get much stupider than that > > > Pastor Frank > > "GOD" THE CHRISTIAN MEANING OF THE WORD ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURE: > Jesus in Jn:4:24: "GOD IS A SPIRIT, and they that worship him must > worship him in spirit and in truth." > Jesus in John 14:6-10: Jesus saith unto him: "I am the way, the truth, > and the life; no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. If ye had known me, > ye should have known my Father also, and from henceforth YE KNOW HIM AND > HAVE SEEN HIM." > Philip saith unto him: "Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us." > Jesus saith unto him: "Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast > thou not known me, Philip? HE THAT HAS SEEN ME HATH SEEN THE FATHER; > and how sayest thou then: Show us the Father? Believest thou not that I am > in the Father, and the Father in me? The words that I speak unto you I speak > not of myself, but the FATHER THAT DWELLETH IN ME, HE DOETH THE WORKS." > Jesus in Jn:10:30: I and my Father are one. > Jesus in John 12:44-46`Then Jesus cried out and said, "He who believes > in me, believes not in me but in Him who sent me. And he who sees me sees > Him who sent Me. I have come as a light into the world, that whoever > believes in me should not abide in darkness." > Jesus in Lk 17:20-21: And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when > the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said: "The kingdom of > God cometh not with observation. Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo > there! For, behold, the kingdom of GOD IS WITHIN YOU." > 1Jn:4:8: He that loveth not, knoweth not God; for GOD IS LOVE. > 1Jn:4:16: And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. > GOD IS LOVE; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him. > Jesus in Jn:13:34: A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one > another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. > Jesus in Jn:13:35: By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, > if ye have love one to another. > Jesus in Jn:15:12-13: This is my commandment: That ye love one another, > as I have loved you. Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down > his life for his friends. > Acts:17:28: For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain > also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring. > Proverbs 10:22 God is nearer than our own soul, closer than our most > secret thoughts. > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Quote
Guest bob young Posted February 15, 2007 Posted February 15, 2007 Pastor Frank wrote: > "Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message > news:53e02eF1rng9cU1@mid.individual.net... > > "Piedmont" <no@spam.net> wrote in message > > news:45d0908c$0$16284$88260bb3@free.teranews.com... > >> Text copied from: http://www.bahai-education.org/ Free Download of > >> software titled: "Ocean" > >> > >> PROOFS AND EVIDENCES OF THE EXISTENCE OF GOD > >> One of the proofs and demonstrations of the existence of God is the fact > >> that man did not create himself: nay, his creator and designer is another > > > > Please don't post your bullshit in alt.atheism. > > Robyn > > Resident Witchypoo > > BAAWA Knight! > > #1557 > Please Poo, stop proselytizing atheism in our pristine and hallowed > Christian NGs. > Thanks. 'Hallowed' what in tarnation does that mean? > > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Quote
Guest bob young Posted February 15, 2007 Posted February 15, 2007 rbwinn wrote: > On Feb 13, 8:34�pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > Free Lunch wrote: > > > On 13 Feb 2007 16:54:11 -0800, in alt.atheism > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in > > > <1171414451.120125.63...@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>: > > > >On Feb 13, 2:10 am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > >> On 13 Feb., 05:09, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > >> > On Feb 12, 8:51?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > > > > >> > > rbwinn wrote: > > > >> > > > On Feb 11, 9:50?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > > >> > > > > rbwinn wrote: > > > >> > > > > > On Feb 11, 4:10?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > ?Not even just one? > > > > > >> > > > > > > Damn, you'd think with all that omnipotence and ego, at least one god > > > >> > > > > > > would make itself known. > > > > > >> > > > > > Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible? > > > >> > > > > > Robert B. Winn > > > > > >> > > > > Where WOULD yuo people be without your old book of fables and myths. > > > > > >> > > > > Does it never filter through to your brains and past your eye blinkers > > > >> > > > > [blinders] that is exactly what they are? > > > > > >> > > > > Here's a few other man inspired and produced books: > > > > > >> > > > We were discussing the Bible. ?Why did you want to change the > > > >> > > > subject? ?Now the Bible says, For God so loved the world that he sent > > > >> > > > his only Begotten Son. > > > >> > > > Jesus Christ said that he was the Son of God. > > > >> > > > Why are you saying that God did not make himself known? > > > >> > > > Robert B. Winn > > > > > >> > > Because these were simply mythical stories written by near primitives who were > > > >> > > bored to tears every night with no radio or TV - all they listened to were > > > >> > > yarns around the evening camp fire told by wandering preachers. > > > > > >> > > The more 'miraculous' his stories were the more free food he got and no doubt, > > > >> > > an extra drop of wine as well. > > > > > >> > > Nothing changes does it - now the 'story tellers' ?have personal jets and fly > > > >> > > around the world presenting 'rigged' miracles to packed audiences of > > > >> > > thousands..... > > > > > >> > > Bob > > > >> > > Humanist Brit. > > > > > >> > > If priests had not been fond of mutton, lambs never would have been sacrified > > > >> > > to god. Nothing was ever carried to the temple that the priest could not use, > > > >> > > and it always happened that god wanted what his agents liked." > > > >> > > [Robert G. Ingersoll] > > > > > >> > > As the caterpiller chooses the fairest leaves to lay her eggs on, so the > > > >> > > priest lays his curse on the fairest joys. > > > >> > > [William Blake]- Hide quoted text - > > > > > >> > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > >> > Well, of course, you are welcome to your own opinion. Quote
Guest bob young Posted February 15, 2007 Posted February 15, 2007 "thomas p." wrote: > On 15 Feb., 00:29, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > On Feb 13, 8:34?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Free Lunch wrote: > > > > On 13 Feb 2007 16:54:11 -0800, in alt.atheism > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in > > > > <1171414451.120125.63...@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>: > > > > >On Feb 13, 2:10 am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > snip > > > > > > >I offered to send you a copy of the Bible. ?You have consistently > > > > >maintained that the Bible does not exist. > > > > > > How many more times will you repeat that lie. > > > > > He is lying for god - so it's Okay. > > > > Well, Bob, does the Bible exist or not? You say whether it exists. > > Don't try to call me a liar just because I called your bluff. > > You are a liar. You said that I and others claimed the Bible did not > exist. Not only was that a lie, it was incredibly silly. You called > nobody's bluff; you just told a silly lie. They frequently behave this way once their backs are up against the wall, I have noticed this time and time again. Quote
Guest bob young Posted February 15, 2007 Posted February 15, 2007 rbwinn wrote: > On Feb 13, 6:59�pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > On Feb 13, 7:52 pm, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 13, 2:10 am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > > > On 13 Feb., 05:09, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 12, 8:51?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > rbwinn wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 11, 9:50?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > rbwinn wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Feb 11, 4:10?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ?Not even just one? > > > > > > > > > > > > Damn, you'd think with all that omnipotence and ego, at least one god > > > > > > > > > > would make itself known. > > > > > > > > > > > Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible? > > > > > > > > > Robert B. Winn > > > > > > > > > > Where WOULD yuo people be without your old book of fables and myths. > > > > > > > > > > Does it never filter through to your brains and past your eye blinkers > > > > > > > > [blinders] that is exactly what they are? > > > > > > > > > > Here's a few other man inspired and produced books: > > > > > > > > > We were discussing the Bible. ?Why did you want to change the > > > > > > > subject? ?Now the Bible says, For God so loved the world that he sent > > > > > > > his only Begotten Son. > > > > > > > Jesus Christ said that he was the Son of God. > > > > > > > Why are you saying that God did not make himself known? > > > > > > > Robert B. Winn > > > > > > > > Because these were simply mythical stories written by near primitives who were > > > > > > bored to tears every night with no radio or TV - all they listened to were > > > > > > yarns around the evening camp fire told by wandering preachers. > > > > > > > > The more 'miraculous' his stories were the more free food he got and no doubt, > > > > > > an extra drop of wine as well. > > > > > > > > Nothing changes does it - now the 'story tellers' ?have personal jets and fly > > > > > > around the world presenting 'rigged' miracles to packed audiences of > > > > > > thousands..... > > > > > > > > Bob > > > > > > Humanist Brit. > > > > > > > > If priests had not been fond of mutton, lambs never would have been sacrified > > > > > > to god. Nothing was ever carried to the temple that the priest could not use, > > > > > > and it always happened that god wanted what his agents liked." > > > > > > [Robert G. Ingersoll] > > > > > > > > As the caterpiller chooses the fairest leaves to lay her eggs on, so the > > > > > > priest lays his curse on the fairest joys. > > > > > > [William Blake]- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > Well, of course, you are welcome to your own opinion. Quote
Guest bob young Posted February 15, 2007 Posted February 15, 2007 Pastor Frank wrote: > "thomas p." <tonyofbexar@yahoo.dk> wrote in message > news:1171373780.070323.55070@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > > > And no evidence for the truth of your beliefs. > > > Only as little as you have evidence for you disbelief. Fool - only the claimant is beholden to show proof. Religion is 'nothing' how can it possible be proved? But of course you already knew that > > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted February 15, 2007 Posted February 15, 2007 On Feb 15, 2:13?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > On 15 Feb., 00:14, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 13, 6:05?pm, Don Kresch <ROT13.qxer...@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote: > > > > In alt.atheism On 13 Feb 2007 16:59:35 -0800, "rbwinn" > > > <rbwi...@juno.com> let us all know that: > > > > >On Feb 13, 2:22 am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > >> On 13 Feb., 05:29, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > >> > On Feb 12, 9:13?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > > > >> > > rbwinn wrote: > > > >> > > > On Feb 12, 9:25?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > >> > > > > On 12 Feb., 03:23, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > On Feb 11, 4:10?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > ?Not even just one? > > > > >> > > > > > > Damn, you'd think with all that omnipotence and ego, at least one god > > > >> > > > > > > would make itself known. > > > > >> > > > > > Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible? > > > >> > > > > > Robert B. Winn > > > > >> > > > > Why, don't you have any evidence to offer? > > > > >> > > > So you are maintaining that the Bible does not exist. ?Do you have > > > >> > > > anything to support your strange belief? > > > >> > > > Robert B. Winn > > > > >> > > Of course it exists, > > > >> > > so do Aesop's Fables and the Greek Myths- Hide quoted text - > > > > >> > > - Show quoted text - > > > > >> > Well, if the Bible exists, you should have no objection to reading > > > >> > it. ?Why don't I just send you a copy so that you can actually read > > > >> > it? > > > > >> I have read it in 4 different translations and in two different > > > >> languages. ?There is still no evidence that it is true. > > > > >How did you like the book of Isaiah? > > > > ? ? ? ? What about it? And please don't say "VIRGIN > > > BIRTH!!!111oneoneoneeleven" It's just not in there. Properly > > > translated, Is 7:14 reads "look, a young woman has conceived and shall > > > give birth", which she does in Is 8:3. The child is then praised as > > > the prince of peace and wonderful counselor (Is 9:6). > > > > ? ? ? ? But, you go right on believing that it's about jesus--believe > > > it in the face of the textual evidence to the contrary. > > > Well, actually I was going to discuss the Assyrian invasion of Judea. > > Did you read Isaiah's account of the Assyrian invasion of Judea? > > Did you read how the Lone Ranger met Tonto?- Hide quoted text - No, I did not. Robert B. Winn Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted February 15, 2007 Posted February 15, 2007 On Feb 15, 2:17�am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > On 15 Feb., 00:29, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 13, 8:34?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > > > Free Lunch wrote: > > > > On 13 Feb 2007 16:54:11 -0800, in alt.atheism > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in > > > > <1171414451.120125.63...@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>: > > > > >On Feb 13, 2:10 am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > snip > > > > > >I offered to send you a copy of the Bible. ?You have consistently > > > > >maintained that the Bible does not exist. > > > > > How many more times will you repeat that lie. > > > > He is lying for god - so it's Okay. > > > Well, Bob, does the Bible exist or not? Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted February 15, 2007 Posted February 15, 2007 On Feb 15, 2:23�am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > On 15 Feb., 00:38, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 13, 10:14?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > > > rbwinn wrote: > > > > On Feb 12, 9:21?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > > > > rbwinn wrote: > > > > > > On Feb 12, 4:20?am, bill.m.tho...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 12, 4:32 pm, "Semper Lib?quot; <nopolicesta...@freedom4all.org> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > "Bill M" <w...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message > > > > > > > > >news:XzMzh.4236$6a.3198@bignews4.bellsouth.net... > > > > > > > > > > It is interesting to observe that there are thousands of different God > > > > > > > > > beliefs but NO OBJECTIVE VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE ANY of these Gods actually > > > > > > > > > exist. > > > > > > > > > What do you call resurrection? > > > > > > > > An unsubstantiated claim in books written by unknown authors at least > > > > > > > forty years (being generous here) ?after the alleged events. One of > > > > > > > those authors the writer of the gospel attributed to Luke by Irenaeus > > > > > > > in the later half of the second century, makes it clear in the first > > > > > > > few lines that he is just repeating hearsay. Without corroboration by > > > > > > > contemporary Roman records the other authors are also dismissed as > > > > > > > writing hearsay. Especially considering the late date that these were > > > > > > > written (well after the Jewish revolt). > > > > > > > > > Then there's this.... and a lot more.... > > > > > > > > > The Anthropic Principle > > > > > > > > <SNIP nonsense about anthropic principle> > > > > > > > > Dead on arrival. "The puddle marveled that the hole it was in was a > > > > > > > perfect fit". > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > Well, since you do not accept any of the New Testament as being valid, > > > > > > let's talk about the book of Isaiah in the Old Testament. ?Does the > > > > > > Book of Isaiah exist, or was it something you say was written as > > > > > > fiction in the second century also? > > > > > > Robert B. Winn > > > > > > Isaiah exists in so much that it tells impossible tales designed to 'impress' > > > > > the followrs of the day, and still does impress some folks with a warped sense > > > > > of reasoning. > > > > > > Isiah ch xxxvii vol 36 > > > > > > Then the angel of the Lord went forth, and smote the camp of the Assyrians a > > > > > hundred and fourscore and five thousand; and when they arose in the morning, > > > > > behold, they were all dead corpses > > > > > > Maybe your god's angel [groan] was too busy slaughtering humans to bother about > > > > > having such a silly 'fau pas' left uncorrected- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > Well, Bob, something obviously happened. ?The Assyrians took more than > > > > twenty cities in their invasion of Judea. ?You can still go to the > > > > ruins of Lachish and walk over the wall of the city on the ramp built > > > > by the Assyrians for that purpose. ?But to quote Sennacherib himself, > > > > he was so kind to Hezekiah, the king of Judea, that after holding him > > > > prisoner in Jerusalem, he allowed him to pay tribute, and the > > > > Assyrians returned to Ninevah. ?Does that sound like the truth to > > > > you? ?Every other king who resisted the Assyrians was cut up in little > > > > pieces and fed to the dogs. > > > > The Bible says that 180,000 Assyrian soldiers were killed by an > > > > angel. ? Besorus, a Chaldean historian quoted by Josephus, says that > > > > 180,000 Assyrian soldiers died from plague. ?One thing for certain, > > > > 180,000 Assyrian soldiers did not enter Jerusalem the way they entered > > > > Lachish. > > > > Before the Assyrian invasion, Lachish was the second most fortified > > > > city in Judea. ?So why didn't the Assyrians take Jerusalem? > > > > Surely, you educated people have some idea of what happened. > > > > Robert B. Winn > > > > Immaterial. ?The verse from the bible is rubbish. ?Possibly based on something that > > > happened but there were no gods involved > > > OK, you think that verse of Isaiah is rubbish. Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted February 15, 2007 Posted February 15, 2007 On Feb 15, 2:38�am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > On 15 Feb., 00:46, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 13, 11:45?pm, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > On 14 Feb., 01:49, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 13, 1:47 am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > > > On 12 Feb., 20:25, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 12, 9:25?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > > > > > On 12 Feb., 03:23, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Feb 11, 4:10?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ?Not even just one? > > > > > > > > > > Damn, you'd think with all that omnipotence and ego, at least one god > > > > > > > > > would make itself known. > > > > > > > > > Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible? > > > > > > > > Robert B. Winn > > > > > > > > Why, don't you have any evidence to offer? > > > > > > > So you are maintaining that the Bible does not exist. ?Do you have > > > > > > anything to support your strange belief? > > > > > > Robert B. Winn > > > > > > This may come as a surprise for you, but the Bible is not evidence of > > > > > any god. > > > > > Well, it seems we have reached the extent of our conversation. ?You > > > > are maintaining that the Bible does not exist. ?I am saying that it > > > > does. > > > > I have never said that the Bible does not exist. ?Why do you tell such > > > incredibly silly lies? > > > Well, since you acknowledge that it does exist, maybe I should send > > you a copy. Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted February 15, 2007 Posted February 15, 2007 On Feb 15, 2:41�am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > On 15 Feb., 00:47, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > > > > > > On 13 Feb 2007 22:45:13 -0800, in alt.atheism > > "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote in > > <1171435509.605186.82...@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>: > > > >On 14 Feb., 01:49, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > >> On Feb 13, 1:47 am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > >> > On 12 Feb., 20:25, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > >> > > On Feb 12, 9:25?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > >> > > > On 12 Feb., 03:23, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > >> > > > > On Feb 11, 4:10?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > >> > > > > > ?Not even just one? > > > >> > > > > > Damn, you'd think with all that omnipotence and ego, at least one god > > >> > > > > > would make itself known. > > > >> > > > > Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible? > > >> > > > > Robert B. Winn > > > >> > > > Why, don't you have any evidence to offer? > > > >> > > So you are maintaining that the Bible does not exist. Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted February 15, 2007 Posted February 15, 2007 On Feb 15, 2:49�am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > On 15 Feb., 00:50, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 13, 11:47?pm, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > On 14 Feb., 01:52, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 13, 2:10 am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > > > On 13 Feb., 05:09, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 12, 8:51?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > rbwinn wrote: > > > > > > > > On Feb 11, 9:50?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > rbwinn wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 11, 4:10?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > ?Not even just one? > > > > > > > > > > > > Damn, you'd think with all that omnipotence and ego, at least one god > > > > > > > > > > > would make itself known. > > > > > > > > > > > Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible? > > > > > > > > > > Robert B. Winn > > > > > > > > > > Where WOULD yuo people be without your old book of fables and myths. > > > > > > > > > > Does it never filter through to your brains and past your eye blinkers > > > > > > > > > [blinders] that is exactly what they are? > > > > > > > > > > Here's a few other man inspired and produced books: > > > > > > > > > We were discussing the Bible. ?Why did you want to change the > > > > > > > > subject? ?Now the Bible says, For God so loved the world that he sent > > > > > > > > his only Begotten Son. > > > > > > > > Jesus Christ said that he was the Son of God. > > > > > > > > Why are you saying that God did not make himself known? > > > > > > > > Robert B. Winn > > > > > > > > Because these were simply mythical stories written by near primitives who were > > > > > > > bored to tears every night with no radio or TV - all they listened to were > > > > > > > yarns around the evening camp fire told by wandering preachers. > > > > > > > > The more 'miraculous' his stories were the more free food he got and no doubt, > > > > > > > an extra drop of wine as well. > > > > > > > > Nothing changes does it - now the 'story tellers' ?have personal jets and fly > > > > > > > around the world presenting 'rigged' miracles to packed audiences of > > > > > > > thousands..... > > > > > > > > Bob > > > > > > > Humanist Brit. > > > > > > > > If priests had not been fond of mutton, lambs never would have been sacrified > > > > > > > to god. Nothing was ever carried to the temple that the priest could not use, > > > > > > > and it always happened that god wanted what his agents liked." > > > > > > > [Robert G. Ingersoll] > > > > > > > > As the caterpiller chooses the fairest leaves to lay her eggs on, so the > > > > > > > priest lays his curse on the fairest joys. > > > > > > > [William Blake]- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > Well, of course, you are welcome to your own opinion. ?Why don't you > > > > > > explain your ideas to Jesus Christ when he returns to judge the earth? > > > > > > Robert B. Winn- Skjul tekst i anf?stegn - > > > > > > Well, of course, you are welcome to present evidence that your > > > > > religious beliefs are true. ?Until then, there is no reason to believe > > > > > you. > > > > > Well, I already did. ?I said that the Bible existed. ?Atheists said > > > > that it did not exist. ? > > > > No atheist has said that the Bible does not exist. > > > > >So we have ended the conversation. ?Atheists > > > > are free to claim that the Bible does not exist. > > > > Still telling insane lies I see. ?Is there some point to that?- Hide quoted text - > > > No atheist has said that the Bible does not exist? Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted February 15, 2007 Posted February 15, 2007 On Feb 15, 2:52�am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > On 15 Feb., 00:54, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:> On Feb 13, 11:48?pm, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > snip > > > > > I offered to send you a copy of the Bible. ?You have consistently > > > > maintained that the Bible does not exist. > > > > Poor little Bobby thinks that repeating inane lies accomplishes > > > something besides making him look like a fool.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > Well, let's get right to it. Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted February 15, 2007 Posted February 15, 2007 On Feb 15, 2:55?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > On 15 Feb., 03:59, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 14, 5:24?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > On Feb 14, 6:44 pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > > > > On 14 Feb 2007 15:16:18 -0800, in alt.atheism > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in > > > > <1171494978.705022.208...@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>: > > > > > ... > > > > > >Well, that is a myth that atheists like to tell. ?Lincoln said on > > > > >several occasions that he believed the Bible. > > > > > Source with complete context please. > > > > You'll never get it, not anything genuine. > > > > Our religious kook might give you a forgery, as David Barton did in > > > his book. ?A forged quote of Lincoln is making its rounds in usenet at > > > this very moment. ?It recommends hunting down and hanging anyone > > > critical of the war effort. ?A pundit has already confessed that he is > > > the author of the quote. > > > > The fraud was perpetrated by one of the Moonie rags, either the Moonie > > > Times or that bag of internet lies called _Insight Magazine._ > > > Well, why don't you atheists just wait until after the resurrection > > and ask Abraham Lincoln in person if he believed the Bible? > > I see no reason to worry about it myself. > > The twit confirms Jjls' judgment. I gave you an option that would resolve your questions about Abraham Lincoln. You say you do not want to do it. That means that you would rather tell lies about Abraham Lincoln. Robert B. Winn Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted February 15, 2007 Posted February 15, 2007 On Feb 15, 2:59�am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > On 15 Feb., 04:14, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:> On Feb 14, 4:47?pm, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > > > On 13 Feb 2007 22:45:13 -0800, in alt.atheism > > > "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote in > > > <1171435509.605186.82...@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>: > > snip > > > > >I have never said that the Bible does not exist. ?Why do you tell such > > > >incredibly silly lies? > > > > Because he's under the delusion that the Bible counts as evidence if we > > > admit that it exists.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > I do not think anything counts with you. Quote
Guest rbwinn Posted February 15, 2007 Posted February 15, 2007 On Feb 15, 4:35�am, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Feb 13, 8:37?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > > Free Lunch wrote: > > > > On 13 Feb 2007 16:39:50 -0800, in alt.atheism > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in > > > > <1171413590.219240.10...@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>: > > > > >On Feb 12, 9:25 am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > >> On 12 Feb., 03:23, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > >> > On Feb 11, 4:10?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > >> > > ?Not even just one? > > > > > >> > > Damn, you'd think with all that omnipotence and ego, at least one god > > > > >> > > would make itself known. > > > > > >> > Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible? > > > > >> > Robert B. Winn > > > > > >> Why, don't you have any evidence to offer? > > > > > >All things that exist show that there is a God. > > > > [i must remember to add that 'little gem' to my list of > > > 'Religious propagator's backs to the wall cop-out's] > > > Well, Bob, you were willing to provide us with a list of evil > > spirits. Quote
Guest thomas p. Posted February 15, 2007 Posted February 15, 2007 On 15 Feb., 13:19, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > On Feb 15, 2:13?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > > > > On 15 Feb., 00:14, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > On Feb 13, 6:05?pm, Don Kresch <ROT13.qxer...@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote: snip > > > Well, actually I was going to discuss the Assyrian invasion of Judea. > > > Did you read Isaiah's account of the Assyrian invasion of Judea? > > > Did you read how the Lone Ranger met Tonto?- Hide quoted text - > > No, I did not. > Robert B. Winn- That explains it then. Quote
Guest thomas p. Posted February 15, 2007 Posted February 15, 2007 On 15 Feb., 13:22, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > On Feb 15, 2:17?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > > > > On 15 Feb., 00:29, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > On Feb 13, 8:34?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: snip > > > Well, Bob, does the Bible exist or not? ?You say whether it exists. > > > Don't try to call me a liar just because I called your bluff. > > > You are a liar. ?You said that I and others claimed the Bible did not > > exist. ?Not only was that a lie, it was incredibly silly. ?You called > > nobody's bluff; you just told a silly lie.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > You are still claiming that the Bible does not exist. If I ask you > about Isaiah's account of the Assyrian invasion of Judea, you reply > with an inane question about fictional characters. So, the > conversation is over. You are claiming that the Bible does not exist. Little Bobby is such a pathetic twit, but we should be nice to him; he does such good work for atheism. Quote
Guest thomas p. Posted February 15, 2007 Posted February 15, 2007 On 15 Feb., 13:26, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > On Feb 15, 2:23?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > > > > On 15 Feb., 00:38, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > On Feb 13, 10:14?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > > > > rbwinn wrote: > > > > > On Feb 12, 9:21?pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote: > > > > > > rbwinn wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 12, 4:20?am, bill.m.tho...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > > > > On Feb 12, 4:32 pm, "Semper Lib?quot; <nopolicesta...@freedom4all.org> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > "Bill M" <w...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > >news:XzMzh.4236$6a.3198@bignews4.bellsouth.net... > > > > > > > > > > > It is interesting to observe that there are thousands of different God > > > > > > > > > > beliefs but NO OBJECTIVE VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE ANY of these Gods actually > > > > > > > > > > exist. > > > > > > > > > > What do you call resurrection? > > > > > > > > > An unsubstantiated claim in books written by unknown authors at least > > > > > > > > forty years (being generous here) ?after the alleged events. One of > > > > > > > > those authors the writer of the gospel attributed to Luke by Irenaeus > > > > > > > > in the later half of the second century, makes it clear in the first > > > > > > > > few lines that he is just repeating hearsay. Without corroboration by > > > > > > > > contemporary Roman records the other authors are also dismissed as > > > > > > > > writing hearsay. Especially considering the late date that these were > > > > > > > > written (well after the Jewish revolt). > > > > > > > > > > Then there's this.... and a lot more.... > > > > > > > > > > The Anthropic Principle > > > > > > > > > <SNIP nonsense about anthropic principle> > > > > > > > > > Dead on arrival. "The puddle marveled that the hole it was in was a > > > > > > > > perfect fit". > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > Well, since you do not accept any of the New Testament as being valid, > > > > > > > let's talk about the book of Isaiah in the Old Testament. ?Does the > > > > > > > Book of Isaiah exist, or was it something you say was written as > > > > > > > fiction in the second century also? > > > > > > > Robert B. Winn > > > > > > > Isaiah exists in so much that it tells impossible tales designed to 'impress' > > > > > > the followrs of the day, and still does impress some folks with a warped sense > > > > > > of reasoning. > > > > > > > Isiah ch xxxvii vol 36 > > > > > > > Then the angel of the Lord went forth, and smote the camp of the Assyrians a > > > > > > hundred and fourscore and five thousand; and when they arose in the morning, > > > > > > behold, they were all dead corpses > > > > > > > Maybe your god's angel [groan] was too busy slaughtering humans to bother about > > > > > > having such a silly 'fau pas' left uncorrected- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > Well, Bob, something obviously happened. ?The Assyrians took more than > > > > > twenty cities in their invasion of Judea. ?You can still go to the > > > > > ruins of Lachish and walk over the wall of the city on the ramp built > > > > > by the Assyrians for that purpose. ?But to quote Sennacherib himself, > > > > > he was so kind to Hezekiah, the king of Judea, that after holding him > > > > > prisoner in Jerusalem, he allowed him to pay tribute, and the > > > > > Assyrians returned to Ninevah. ?Does that sound like the truth to > > > > > you? ?Every other king who resisted the Assyrians was cut up in little > > > > > pieces and fed to the dogs. > > > > > The Bible says that 180,000 Assyrian soldiers were killed by an > > > > > angel. ? Besorus, a Chaldean historian quoted by Josephus, says that > > > > > 180,000 Assyrian soldiers died from plague. ?One thing for certain, > > > > > 180,000 Assyrian soldiers did not enter Jerusalem the way they entered > > > > > Lachish. > > > > > Before the Assyrian invasion, Lachish was the second most fortified > > > > > city in Judea. ?So why didn't the Assyrians take Jerusalem? > > > > > Surely, you educated people have some idea of what happened. > > > > > Robert B. Winn > > > > > Immaterial. ?The verse from the bible is rubbish. ?Possibly based on something that > > > > happened but there were no gods involved > > > > OK, you think that verse of Isaiah is rubbish. ? What about the verse > > > that says a conduit for water was made from Gihon spring to carry > > > water from that source into the city of Jerusalem. ?Is that verse > > > rubbish? > > > What difference would it make to the question of whether the Bible > > stories are the word of any god or whether they describe miracles that > > actually happened?- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > You do not want to talk about the Bible, remember? You want to talk > about the Lone Ranger and Tonto. If you would care to admit that the > Bible exists, we can talk about the Bible. Other than that we are > done talking about the Bible. I don't understand how this boob has the intelligence to post. Somebody must do it for him. Quote
Guest thomas p. Posted February 15, 2007 Posted February 15, 2007 On 15 Feb., 13:28, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > On Feb 15, 2:38?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > > On 15 Feb., 00:46, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > On Feb 13, 11:45?pm, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > > On 14 Feb., 01:49, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Feb 13, 1:47 am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > > > > On 12 Feb., 20:25, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Feb 12, 9:25?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 12 Feb., 03:23, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 11, 4:10?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > ?Not even just one? > > > > > > > > > > > Damn, you'd think with all that omnipotence and ego, at least one god > > > > > > > > > > would make itself known. > > > > > > > > > > Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible? > > > > > > > > > Robert B. Winn > > > > > > > > > Why, don't you have any evidence to offer? > > > > > > > > So you are maintaining that the Bible does not exist. ?Do you have > > > > > > > anything to support your strange belief? > > > > > > > Robert B. Winn > > > > > > > This may come as a surprise for you, but the Bible is not evidence of > > > > > > any god. > > > > > > Well, it seems we have reached the extent of our conversation. ?You > > > > > are maintaining that the Bible does not exist. ?I am saying that it > > > > > does. > > > > > I have never said that the Bible does not exist. ?Why do you tell such > > > > incredibly silly lies? > > > > Well, since you acknowledge that it does exist, maybe I should send > > > you a copy. ?Then you could determine whether or not you can actually > > > say whether it is a physical object or not. > > > Perhaps you could stop lying and apologise to me and the others for > > your lie. ?On the other hand if you indtend to keep lying (as your > > posts indicate), perhaps you could make up some that are not quite so > > inane. ?Probably not. > > As I said, we are not talking again about the Bible unless you admit > that the Bible exists. Then we can discuss what it means when you say > that the Bible exists. > Robert B. Winn- Skjul tekst i anf Quote
Guest thomas p. Posted February 15, 2007 Posted February 15, 2007 On 15 Feb., 13:31, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > On Feb 15, 2:41?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > > > > On 15 Feb., 00:47, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > > > On 13 Feb 2007 22:45:13 -0800, in alt.atheism > > > "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote in > > > <1171435509.605186.82...@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>: > > > > >On 14 Feb., 01:49, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > >> On Feb 13, 1:47 am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > >> > On 12 Feb., 20:25, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > >> > > On Feb 12, 9:25?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: > > > > >> > > > On 12 Feb., 03:23, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > On Feb 11, 4:10?pm, "jls" <jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > ?Not even just one? > > > > >> > > > > > Damn, you'd think with all that omnipotence and ego, at least one god > > > >> > > > > > would make itself known. > > > > >> > > > > Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible? > > > >> > > > > Robert B. Winn > > > > >> > > > Why, don't you have any evidence to offer? > > > > >> > > So you are maintaining that the Bible does not exist. ?Do you have > > > >> > > anything to support your strange belief? > > > >> > > Robert B. Winn > > > > >> > This may come as a surprise for you, but the Bible is not evidence of > > > >> > any god. > > > > >> Well, it seems we have reached the extent of our conversation. ?You > > > >> are maintaining that the Bible does not exist. ?I am saying that it > > > >> does. > > > > >I have never said that the Bible does not exist. ?Why do you tell such > > > >incredibly silly lies? > > > > Because he's under the delusion that the Bible counts as evidence if we > > > admit that it exists.- > > > He is also under the delusion that he is being clever instead of the > > inane twit that he is. > > Well, Thomas, here we see the last refuge of the atheist, the personal > attack. We were discussing the Bible here in alt.bible. Now everyone > can see your purpose in intruding in our conversation. If you do not > want to talk about the Bible, why don't you go live the happy life of > an atheist? Come on now boobie, you can be loonier than that. Try! We are rooting for you! Quote
Guest thomas p. Posted February 15, 2007 Posted February 15, 2007 On 15 Feb., 13:34, "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > On Feb 15, 2:49?am, "thomas p." <tonyofbe...@yahoo.dk> wrote: snip > > > No atheist has said that the Bible does not exist? ?So in what way do > > > you claim it exists? ?Does it exist the same way something on Bob's > > > list of alleged gods exits? > > > In other words, does the Bible have a physical existence, or is it > > > like one of the names on Bob's list? > > > The book exists. ?I have 6 different copies of it myself in two > > languages, because my work requires it. ?No atheist has said or > > implied that it did not exist. ?You told a very stupid lie. ?You are > > now, in a display of your inanity, trying to drag out your moronic > > performance. ?Thanks for making your belief look bad.- Hide quoted text - > > Well, that is wonderful, Thomas. Why don't you read something from > your six Bibles some time instead of reading the garbage that other > atheists write about it? Boobie you don't know what I read. Keep up the good work though. We are all grateful to you. Quote
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