Scandall519 Posted April 30, 2012 Posted April 30, 2012 Interested in getting into FT/TT racing. How do I get started? What do I need to compete? Tips/suggestions? Quote [broken External Image]:https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/535191_10150850695242658_578822657_11641888_937094153_n.jpg
ridingred Posted April 30, 2012 Posted April 30, 2012 lowering kit first and foremost, then you will need some tires. I do a few local races a year and the lowering kit and tires is good enough for me to have fun. When you start getting real competitive you can get sway bars and some suspension work. Quote 05, 13:1 JE, 02 crf cam, full hmf, razr tt tires, rath sway bar, lowering link in the rear, triple rate rebuilds on front.
bigcountrydude Posted April 30, 2012 Posted April 30, 2012 power. rims/tires. lowering kit. sway bar. and revalved stock shocks will get you started. Quote Stock Bore, Stock Stroke, Pump Gas, and Kicking Ass TEAM JUNK RACING #224
Scandall519 Posted April 30, 2012 Author Posted April 30, 2012 Any specific lowering kit you guys would recommend? Hoosier tires? How well/long will the stock suspension work for TT? Quote [broken External Image]:https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/535191_10150850695242658_578822657_11641888_937094153_n.jpg
bigcountrydude Posted April 30, 2012 Posted April 30, 2012 flea bay for lowering kit. tires for TT is outside my knowledge. except i think most ppl run a 10in rim. and depends on how serious you get... Quote Stock Bore, Stock Stroke, Pump Gas, and Kicking Ass TEAM JUNK RACING #224
ridingred Posted April 30, 2012 Posted April 30, 2012 you don't need new shocks to start racing flat track. just get the lowering kit, i got mine on ebay, for like 100 bucks or so for the front and rear. If you are getting to be good and competitive you can invest in some built shocks and then also get a shorter swingarm. Otherwise, for starting out all ya need is tires and the lowering kit. 1 Quote 05, 13:1 JE, 02 crf cam, full hmf, razr tt tires, rath sway bar, lowering link in the rear, triple rate rebuilds on front.
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grtrat1 Posted May 1, 2012 Posted May 1, 2012 Flat track racing? Quote http://www.offtopic.forum/images/sig.png
Scandall519 Posted May 1, 2012 Author Posted May 1, 2012 FT-Flat Track/TT-Tight Track Quote [broken External Image]:https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/535191_10150850695242658_578822657_11641888_937094153_n.jpg
bigcountrydude Posted May 1, 2012 Posted May 1, 2012 i'd say don't bother unless you get a sway bar. same as ice-racing. and a used one can be had for 200 and less. and worth its weight in gold at the track. Quote Stock Bore, Stock Stroke, Pump Gas, and Kicking Ass TEAM JUNK RACING #224
Josh72 Posted May 13, 2012 Posted May 13, 2012 Depending on track conditions and and the size of track, you will need different tires. 10" rims all around. Less tire roll. If you already have long travel arms, you could just put your stock shocks on to lower it. Make sure your rear end is soft so your weight can transfer to the rear tires for traction instead of just spinning. If the track you are racing on is very loose and dirt like, you will want very soft compound hoosiers, they will hook up much better. You do not want to be spinning your tires in the corners, I've learned this. Use your clutch if you have to to keep them from spinning, once your tires brake loose, you might as well move over and let the guys pass. Most tracks will not require hoosier style front tires, but trust me, if you have them, they will pull you right through the corners. knobby tires have much less surface area contacting the surface of the track so they will just want to slide and if they slide, then you will want to slide your rear end around to correct for it. Once you start sliding out, you will spin before you know it. If you are really unlucky, the rears will hook up when your sideways and you'll flip. I have learned that too lol Anything else, just ask! 1 Quote
Baileyguns Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 Depending on track conditions and and the size of track, you will need different tires. 10" rims all around. Less tire roll. If you already have long travel arms, you could just put your stock shocks on to lower it. Make sure your rear end is soft so your weight can transfer to the rear tires for traction instead of just spinning. If the track you are racing on is very loose and dirt like, you will want very soft compound hoosiers, they will hook up much better. You do not want to be spinning your tires in the corners, I've learned this. Use your clutch if you have to to keep them from spinning, once your tires brake loose, you might as well move over and let the guys pass. Most tracks will not require hoosier style front tires, but trust me, if you have them, they will pull you right through the corners. knobby tires have much less surface area contacting the surface of the track so they will just want to slide and if they slide, then you will want to slide your rear end around to correct for it. Once you start sliding out, you will spin before you know it. If you are really unlucky, the rears will hook up when your sideways and you'll flip. I have learned that too lol Anything else, just ask! Hey Josh, whats the deal with those eBay front lowering links? Will they work on aftermarket arms too or just stock arms? Glad you found the site! Quote Live Free or Die http://450rhq.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/9429fda0882ce39582aff21a740157c0.gif
Josh72 Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 Hey Josh, whats the deal with those eBay front lowering links? Will they work on aftermarket arms too or just stock arms? Glad you found the site! I think the reason I found the site has something to do with you sending me the link to it on Facebook. I'm pretty sure anyway. lol You will have to look at your arms first. If all of the mounts are the same, then they will not fit the oem ds450 arms because where the shock mounts the inside of the mount does not go straight down to the arm, there is a little curve to it so the square block can not slide down far enough to line up with the bolt holes. You will have to check out your arms and see if they are like that or not. Quote
ridingred Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 i use the ebay lowering kit for my flat track races. i also run nobbies at the local spots and it's fine. If you're serious and into the AMA flat track then you'll want to get some tires, but for what i do at he local fairs and tracks i can have fun with nobbies and the lowering kit. Quote 05, 13:1 JE, 02 crf cam, full hmf, razr tt tires, rath sway bar, lowering link in the rear, triple rate rebuilds on front.
Baileyguns Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 They're LSR arms.. The cross bar under the shock mount is a tube. I want something to lower it for the ice next winter. I picked up a swaybar a few weeks ago, I forget if I told you that. Quote Live Free or Die http://450rhq.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/9429fda0882ce39582aff21a740157c0.gif
Josh72 Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 Oh nice! put up a picture of them and I'll let you know if i think it would fit! And yeah its me! I figured it was you too. lol Quote
joshyz125 Posted June 3, 2012 Posted June 3, 2012 You could go about it Many differant ways, but i would get alot of your suspension stuff first. Sway bar, Maultech TT Rear linkage, Hit up Jet Suspension, he done my TT Suspension, Lowering kits really screw with the suspension, they don't work very well IMO, but i guess it depends on how competitive you want to be. Don't get super offset wheels for the front, that messes with your steering also. Engine, once again, depends on how competitive you want to be. The most popular tires around here at either the Hoosier 10 or 12 compound, or the American Racer 30 or 33. Quote Mud Motorsports:gr_burnout:
Josh72 Posted June 3, 2012 Posted June 3, 2012 I just purchased a set of front hoosiers D12 Compound. $82 and change each. Rears I have been using the Tri-Trac tires and they seem to be good. Not sure on the compound, they are a little harder then the fronts. Quote
TP Racing Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 [ATTACH]591.vB[/ATTACH][ATTACH]592.vB[/ATTACH] Anybody know what compound these are? Quote http://450rhq.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/21fc0f0e32f71137992534b10cc306cc.jpg
OTMTRX Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 It says on the side... or a least a code for what compound they are, then go to Hoosiers website and check it.. Mine are buried in the garage or I'd be able to give you a better answer.. sorry mate. Quote
TP Racing Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 It says on the side... or a least a code for what compound they are, then go to Hoosiers website and check it.. Mine are buried in the garage or I'd be able to give you a better answer.. sorry mate. Its all good man. They will be here this wed so Ill see then. But now I know how to check, Thanks, Alec Quote http://450rhq.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/21fc0f0e32f71137992534b10cc306cc.jpg
joshyz125 Posted July 25, 2012 Posted July 25, 2012 Should be something like Rd12 or D12, They have 10's, 12's, and 15's, Each Number range has different letters, So an R is Soft, Middle is RD, and Hard is D, But then a 10 is softer then a 12, and then 15, So start with the Numbers, and then go to the letters, So, a D10 is Softer then a R12 They skip over some of the Combinations, but hopefully that gives you an Idea how to Read the Compounds. Quote Mud Motorsports:gr_burnout:
ridingred Posted January 8, 2013 Posted January 8, 2013 here's my FT setup, lowering link in the rear, and lowering blocks in the front, stock suspension legnth, the fronts have been revalved. Razr TT tires. I need more power to compete but this at least puts me in the race and i can hang with the pack.... http://www.offtopic.forum/uploads/imported/2013/01/20120801_185033_140-1.jpg http://www.offtopic.forum/uploads/imported/2013/01/20120801_185021_201-1.jpg http://www.offtopic.forum/uploads/imported/2013/01/20120801_185012_617-1.jpg http://www.offtopic.forum/uploads/imported/2013/01/20120801_185042_445-1.jpg http://www.offtopic.forum/uploads/imported/2013/01/20120821_191141_889-1.jpg Quote 05, 13:1 JE, 02 crf cam, full hmf, razr tt tires, rath sway bar, lowering link in the rear, triple rate rebuilds on front.
ridingred Posted May 30, 2013 Posted May 30, 2013 switched the setup a little. now running a sway bar and a arms with no front lowering blocks. Last weekends race was a fast track, my poor little motor couldn't hold up to the big motors so i was stuck getting whooped on the straights. This weekend we're set for a short TT course which love, much more rider skill and setup involved rather than raw horsepower. here's some shots of the short course, me in first of course! http://www.offtopic.forum/uploads/imported/2013/05/photo_zpsf4459f90-1.jpg http://www.offtopic.forum/uploads/imported/2013/05/photo1_zpsb6cf4716-1.jpg new front end http://www.offtopic.forum/uploads/imported/2013/05/20130511_122954_892_zps850ba2ea-1.jpg 1 Quote 05, 13:1 JE, 02 crf cam, full hmf, razr tt tires, rath sway bar, lowering link in the rear, triple rate rebuilds on front.
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