Brits pulling out, Danes pullingout, bush,jr's collapsing world continues to collapse

March 5, 2007

"Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

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> Patriot Games wrote:

>> "Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

>> > Patriot Games wrote:

>> >> "Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

>> >> > Patriot Games wrote:

>> >> >> 30%. (Actually 29.5% if you want to be accurate.)

>> >> > And all of them next year

>> >> Read your own cite: "A further 1,500 troops would be out by the end of

>> >> the

>> >> year."

>> > Very good! And people said you were slow...

>> >> > http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/articlenews.aspx?type=topNews&storyid=2007-02-21T000633Z_01_L20323701_RTRUKOC_0_UK-IRAQ-BRITAIN.xml&WTmodLoc=Motor+Sports-R6-MostRead-2

>> >> > Prime Minister Tony Blair is expected to announce on Wednesday that

>> >> > Britain will

>> >> > start to withdraw its troops from Iraq within weeks, media said.

>> >> > Blair would tell parliament 1,500 soldiers would leave by the

>> >> > summer,

>> >> > BBC

>> >> > News,

>> >> > the Sun and the Times reported. Britain has 7,100 troops in Iraq.

>> >> > The Sun said the first batch would arrive home in April. A further

>> >> > 1,500

>> >> > troops

>> >> > would be out by the end of the year.

>> >> > The Financial Times, for its part, said Blair would first cut troop

>> >> > levels

>> >> > by 1,600,

>> >> > while the Guardian put the figure at 1,000, with all troops exiting

>> >> > by

>> >> > the

>> >> > end of

>> >> > 2008.

>> >> > ...

>> >> A newspaper is speculating CONTRARY TO THE WORDS OF THE PM,

>> >> that "all troops exiting by the end of 2008."

>> >> You can read can't you?

>> > http://www.spcm.org/Journal/spip.php?article6943

>> > Blair announced that British troops will remain in Iraq at least until

>> > 2008 ...

>> > Publi

March 5, 2007

"Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

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> Patriot Games wrote:

>> Succeed at achieving a peaceful Iraq.

> Had that before the invasion.

So you think life in a dictatorship is peaceful?

March 5, 2007

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> Patriot Games wrote:

>> "Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

>> news:45E513E2.696F0161@hotmMOVEail.com...

>> > Patriot Games wrote:

>> >> "Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote in message

>> >> news:tOEEh.11885$e8.7929@bignews1.bellsouth.net...

>> >> > Patriot Games wrote:

>> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message

>> >> >> news:btadnVmXKvfULkLYnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@comcast.com...

>> >> >>> For now........

>> >> >> Don't you want the Iraqis to succeed?

>> >> > Doing what?

>> >> Running their country without foreign troops present.

>> > They had that before Chimpoleon cooked up lies to invade.

>> No they didn't. They didn't run their country. Their country was run

>> for

>> them by a dictator.

> Saddam wasn't an Iraqi?

Irrelevant.

>> Do you support dictators or democratic gov't.?

> Chimpoleon still supports dictators.

Cite?

March 5, 2007

"Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

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> Patriot Games wrote:

>> >> Commentary and opinion.

>> > Analysis by an expert

>> Its lacks FACTS and is therefore USELESS.

> Read it this time.

I read it, its still commentary and opinion by a paid ABC News analyst.

>> >> And why is that bad?

>> > IT'S GOOD??? "Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution"??????? I dare you

>> > to be more stupid! I dare you!

>> You just don't make any sense. You oppose the Sadrist factions from

>> being

>> in control yet you insist that the ONLY people who can prevent them from

>> gaining control leave Iraq - so that they CAN gain control.

>> Which one do you want?

> Rightards. Geez. The Brits - and the US - failed to cultivate any

> alternative.

You oppose the Sadrist factions from being in control yet you insist that

the ONLY people who can prevent them from gaining control leave Iraq - so

that they CAN gain control.

Which one do you want?

>> No there wasn't. There was torturing, murdering, raping, and use of WMD

>> under a terroristic dictator. That is not law and order under ANY

>> international definition.

> You lost all credibility by claiming the non existent WMDs.

You're DUCKING.

So noted.

March 5, 2007

Patriot Games wrote:

> "Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

> news:45EA337C.C2FA9484@hotmMOVEail.com...

>> Patriot Games wrote:

>>> "Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

>>>> Patriot Games wrote:

>>>>> "Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>> Patriot Games wrote:

>>>>>>> 30%. (Actually 29.5% if you want to be accurate.)

>>>>>> And all of them next year

>>>>> Read your own cite: "A further 1,500 troops would be out by the

>>>>> end of the

>>>>> year."

>>>> Very good! And people said you were slow...

>>>>>> http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/articlenews.aspx?type=topNews&storyid=2007-02-21T000633Z_01_L20323701_RTRUKOC_0_UK-IRAQ-BRITAIN.xml&WTmodLoc=Motor+Sports-R6-MostRead-2

>>>>>> Prime Minister Tony Blair is expected to announce on Wednesday

>>>>>> that Britain will

>>>>>> start to withdraw its troops from Iraq within weeks, media said.

>>>>>> Blair would tell parliament 1,500 soldiers would leave by the

>>>>>> summer,

>>>>>> BBC

>>>>>> News,

>>>>>> the Sun and the Times reported. Britain has 7,100 troops in Iraq.

>>>>>> The Sun said the first batch would arrive home in April. A

>>>>>> further 1,500

>>>>>> troops

>>>>>> would be out by the end of the year.

>>>>>> The Financial Times, for its part, said Blair would first cut

>>>>>> troop levels

>>>>>> by 1,600,

>>>>>> while the Guardian put the figure at 1,000, with all troops

>>>>>> exiting by

>>>>>> the

>>>>>> end of

>>>>>> 2008.

>>>>>> ...

>>>>> A newspaper is speculating CONTRARY TO THE WORDS OF THE PM,

>>>>> that "all troops exiting by the end of 2008."

>>>>> You can read can't you?

>>>> http://www.spcm.org/Journal/spip.php?article6943

>>>> Blair announced that British troops will remain in Iraq at least

>>>> until 2008 ...

>>>> Publi

March 6, 2007

by Dick Eastman

An elite ruling class has risen in Western Civilization-at the top of

this elite are the merchant bankers who are Zionist (Jewish

supremacist) Jews who believe in racial superiority and class

superiority and in the right of power -- the power to take control of

nations that where liberal republics and, by control and manipulation

of the money supply, by the creation of monopolies, especially of

capital and land, convert these nations into plutocracies where the

middle classes are plundered and robbed of political participation and

voice-or, as often as not, they have their control from outright

conquest-as the defeat of Germany after both world wars, as the

subjugation of Russian under (Jewish-and covertly banker-controlled)

communism

March 7, 2007

Patriot Games wrote:

>

> "Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

> news:45EA337C.C2FA9484@hotmMOVEail.com...

> > Patriot Games wrote:

> >> "Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

> >> > Patriot Games wrote:

> >> >> "Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

> >> >> > Patriot Games wrote:

> >> >> >> 30%. (Actually 29.5% if you want to be accurate.)

> >> >> > And all of them next year

> >> >> Read your own cite: "A further 1,500 troops would be out by the end of

> >> >> the

> >> >> year."

> >> > Very good! And people said you were slow...

> >> >> > http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/articlenews.aspx?type=topNews&storyid=2007-02-21T000633Z_01_L20323701_RTRUKOC_0_UK-IRAQ-BRITAIN.xml&WTmodLoc=Motor+Sports-R6-MostRead-2

> >> >> > Prime Minister Tony Blair is expected to announce on Wednesday that

> >> >> > Britain will

> >> >> > start to withdraw its troops from Iraq within weeks, media said.

> >> >> > Blair would tell parliament 1,500 soldiers would leave by the

> >> >> > summer,

> >> >> > BBC

> >> >> > News,

> >> >> > the Sun and the Times reported. Britain has 7,100 troops in Iraq.

> >> >> > The Sun said the first batch would arrive home in April. A further

> >> >> > 1,500

> >> >> > troops

> >> >> > would be out by the end of the year.

> >> >> > The Financial Times, for its part, said Blair would first cut troop

> >> >> > levels

> >> >> > by 1,600,

> >> >> > while the Guardian put the figure at 1,000, with all troops exiting

> >> >> > by

> >> >> > the

> >> >> > end of

> >> >> > 2008.

> >> >> > ...

> >> >> A newspaper is speculating CONTRARY TO THE WORDS OF THE PM,

> >> >> that "all troops exiting by the end of 2008."

> >> >> You can read can't you?

> >> > http://www.spcm.org/Journal/spip.php?article6943

> >> > Blair announced that British troops will remain in Iraq at least until

> >> > 2008 ...

> >> > Publi

March 7, 2007

Patriot Games wrote:

>

> "Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

> news:45EA36D8.4B4A93D2@hotmMOVEail.com...

> > Patriot Games wrote:

> >> Succeed at achieving a peaceful Iraq.

> > Had that before the invasion.

>

> So you think life in a dictatorship is peaceful?

How many bombings were there?

RT

March 7, 2007

Patriot Games wrote:

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> "Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

> news:45EA378D.9D9F4E37@hotmMOVEail.com...

> > Patriot Games wrote:

> >> "Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

> >> news:45E513E2.696F0161@hotmMOVEail.com...

> >> > Patriot Games wrote:

> >> >> "Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote in message

> >> >> news:tOEEh.11885$e8.7929@bignews1.bellsouth.net...

> >> >> > Patriot Games wrote:

> >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message

> >> >> >> news:btadnVmXKvfULkLYnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@comcast.com...

> >> >> >>> For now........

> >> >> >> Don't you want the Iraqis to succeed?

> >> >> > Doing what?

> >> >> Running their country without foreign troops present.

> >> > They had that before Chimpoleon cooked up lies to invade.

> >> No they didn't. They didn't run their country. Their country was run

> >> for

> >> them by a dictator.

> > Saddam wasn't an Iraqi?

>

> Irrelevant.

Highly relevant.

> >> Do you support dictators or democratic gov't.?

> > Chimpoleon still supports dictators.

>

> Cite?

http://archive.muslimuzbekistan.com/eng/ennews/2004/03/ennews31032004b.html

Never mind the torture and political prisoners, he's Bush's man

In the rogues' gallery of Soviet dinosaurs, the rulers of the central

Asian states have pride of place.

Islam Karimov, who has ruled the impoverished republic of Uzbekistan

as a dictator for 15 years, may not be the looniest.

That reputation could probably be claimed by his neighbour, President

Saparmurat Niyazov of Turkmenistan, who in 2002 renamed the months of

the calendar - January after himself.

But President Karimov could well be the cruellest, accused of torture

of opponents, muzzling freedom of speech and jailing up to 6,500

political prisoners.

...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4617231.stm

Uzbek crackdown a 'massacre'

President Karimov says civilians were not harmed on 13 May

Uzbekistan's crackdown on protesters in Andijan last month was a "massacre",

according to Human Rights Watch, in the fullest report yet on the bloodshed.

...

http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2006/78717.htm

...

Despite President Musharraf's stated commitment to democratic transition and

"enlightened moderation," Pakistan's human rights record continued to be poor.

Restrictions remained on freedom of movement, expression, association, and

religion. Disappearances of provincial activists and political opponents

continued, especially in provinces experiencing internal turmoil and insurgencies.

The security forces continued to commit extrajudicial killings. Arbitrary arrest

and torture remained common.

...

Though Egypt held a first-ever, multi-party presidential election in 2005, in 2006

public calls for greater democratization and accountability sometimes met with

strong government reaction.

...

Two senior judges were brought in for questioning in February for publicly calling

for an independent judiciary. Egyptian police arrested and detained over 500

activists for participating in demonstrations in support of judicial independence.

In addition, severe cases of torture by authorities were documented. The government

also arrested, detained, and abused several Internet bloggers.

...

http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2006/78862.htm

Saudia Arabia

...

The following significant human rights problems were reported: no right to

peacefully change the government; infliction of severe pain by judicially sanctioned

corporal punishments; beatings and other abuses; inadequate prison and detention

center conditions; arbitrary arrest and detention, sometimes incommunicado; denial

of fair public trials; exemption from the rule of law for some individuals and lack

of judicial independence; arbitrary interference with privacy, family, home, and

correspondence; and significant restriction of civil liberties--freedoms of speech

and press, including the Internet; assembly; association; and movement. The

government committed severe violations of religious freedom.

...

Some allies, eh?

RT

March 7, 2007

Patriot Games wrote:

>

> "Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

> news:45EA3954.A837D079@hotmMOVEail.com...

> > Patriot Games wrote:

> >> >> Commentary and opinion.

> >> > Analysis by an expert

> >> Its lacks FACTS and is therefore USELESS.

> > Read it this time.

>

> I read it, its still commentary and opinion by a paid ABC News analyst.

What part of "re-eminent American analyst on Iraq, Anthony Cordesman of the

Centre for Strategic and International Studies" did you not understand????

> >> >> And why is that bad?

> >> > IT'S GOOD??? "Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution"??????? I dare you

> >> > to be more stupid! I dare you!

> >> You just don't make any sense. You oppose the Sadrist factions from

> >> being

> >> in control yet you insist that the ONLY people who can prevent them from

> >> gaining control leave Iraq - so that they CAN gain control.

> >> Which one do you want?

> > Rightards. Geez. The Brits - and the US - failed to cultivate any

> > alternative.

>

> You oppose the Sadrist factions from being in control yet you insist that

> the ONLY people who can prevent them from gaining control leave Iraq - so

> that they CAN gain control.

>

> Which one do you want?

What part of "failed to cultivate any alternative" did you not understand???

> >> No there wasn't. There was torturing, murdering, raping, and use of WMD

> >> under a terroristic dictator. That is not law and order under ANY

> >> international definition.

> > You lost all credibility by claiming the non existent WMDs.

>

> You're DUCKING.

>

> So noted.

You're so CLUELESS and incapable of reading.

So noted.

RT

March 7, 2007

"Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

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> Patriot Games wrote:

>> "Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

>> news:45EA36D8.4B4A93D2@hotmMOVEail.com...

>> > Patriot Games wrote:

>> >> Succeed at achieving a peaceful Iraq.

>> > Had that before the invasion.

>> So you think life in a dictatorship is peaceful?

> How many bombings were there?

I think it was only two series of several bombings each when Saddam used WMD

on the Kurds.

The other several hunded thousand innocent civilians were machine-gunned to

death.

Does that answer your question?

March 7, 2007

"Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

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> Patriot Games wrote:

>> >> >> >> Don't you want the Iraqis to succeed?

>> >> >> > Doing what?

>> >> >> Running their country without foreign troops present.

>> >> > They had that before Chimpoleon cooked up lies to invade.

>> >> No they didn't. They didn't run their country. Their country was run

>> >> for them by a dictator.

>> > Saddam wasn't an Iraqi?

>> Irrelevant.

> Highly relevant.

Don't you want the Iraqis to succeed?

>> >> Do you support dictators or democratic gov't.?

>> > Chimpoleon still supports dictators.

>> Cite?

> http://archive.muslimuzbekistan.com/eng/ennews/2004/03/ennews31032004b.html

> Never mind the torture and political prisoners, he's Bush's man

We have no control over that country.

> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4617231.stm

We have no control over that country.

> http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2006/78717.htm

We have no control over that country.

> http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2006/78862.htm

> Saudia Arabia

We have no control over that country.

> Some allies, eh?

Which one used chemical weapons on innocent civilians?

March 7, 2007

"Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

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> Patriot Games wrote:

>> "Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

>> news:45EA3954.A837D079@hotmMOVEail.com...

>> > Patriot Games wrote:

>> >> >> Commentary and opinion.

>> >> > Analysis by an expert

>> >> Its lacks FACTS and is therefore USELESS.

>> > Read it this time.

>> I read it, its still commentary and opinion by a paid ABC News analyst.

> What part of "pre-eminent American analyst on Iraq, Anthony Cordesman of

> the

> Centre for Strategic and International Studies" did you not understand????

The part where he EARNED that otherwise worthless introduction.

>> >> >> And why is that bad?

>> >> > IT'S GOOD??? "Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution"??????? I dare

>> >> > you

>> >> > to be more stupid! I dare you!

>> >> You just don't make any sense. You oppose the Sadrist factions from

>> >> being

>> >> in control yet you insist that the ONLY people who can prevent them

>> >> from

>> >> gaining control leave Iraq - so that they CAN gain control.

>> >> Which one do you want?

>> > Rightards. Geez. The Brits - and the US - failed to cultivate any

>> > alternative.

>> You oppose the Sadrist factions from being in control yet you insist that

>> the ONLY people who can prevent them from gaining control leave Iraq - so

>> that they CAN gain control.

>> Which one do you want?

> What part of "failed to cultivate any alternative" did you not

> understand???

So you agree that there is no other alternative except to STAY THERE and

solve it?

>> >> No there wasn't. There was torturing, murdering, raping, and use of

>> >> WMD

>> >> under a terroristic dictator. That is not law and order under ANY

>> >> international definition.

>> > You lost all credibility by claiming the non existent WMDs.

>> You're DUCKING.

>> So noted.

> You're so CLUELESS and incapable of reading.

> So noted.

Still DUCKING.

You're dismissed.

March 12, 2007

Patriot Games wrote:

>

> "Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

> news:45EE3672.18E5EEA1@hotmMOVEail.com...

> > Patriot Games wrote:

> >> "Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

> >> news:45EA36D8.4B4A93D2@hotmMOVEail.com...

> >> > Patriot Games wrote:

> >> >> Succeed at achieving a peaceful Iraq.

> >> > Had that before the invasion.

> >> So you think life in a dictatorship is peaceful?

> > How many bombings were there?

>

> I think it was only two series of several bombings each when Saddam used WMD

> on the Kurds.

>

> The other several hunded thousand innocent civilians were machine-gunned to

> death.

>

> Does that answer your question?

Nope. You've got the 1980s covered. Big deal.

RT

March 12, 2007

Bigot Patriot Games wrote:

> "Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

> > Patriot Games wrote:

> >> >> >> >> Don't you want the Iraqis to succeed?

> >> >> >> > Doing what?

> >> >> >> Running their country without foreign troops present.

> >> >> > They had that before Chimpoleon cooked up lies to invade.

> >> >> No they didn't. They didn't run their country. Their country was run

> >> >> for them by a dictator.

> >> > Saddam wasn't an Iraqi?

> >> Irrelevant.

> > Highly relevant.

>

> Don't you want the Iraqis to succeed?

Why do you want to stay and have more of our troops die and more of our money

wasted?

> >> >> Do you support dictators or democratic gov't.?

> >> > Chimpoleon still supports dictators.

> >> Cite?

> > http://archive.muslimuzbekistan.com/eng/ennews/2004/03/ennews31032004b.html

> > Never mind the torture and political prisoners, he's Bush's man

>

> We have no control over that country.

Idiot. That wasn't the point. Chimpoleon is buddy buddy with them.

> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4617231.stm

>

> We have no control over that country.

Idiot. That wasn't the point. Chimpoleon is buddy buddy with them.

> > http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2006/78717.htm

>

> We have no control over that country.

Idiot. That wasn't the point. Chimpoleon is buddy buddy with them.

> > http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2006/78862.htm

> > Saudia Arabia

>

> We have no control over that country.

Idiot. That wasn't the point. Chimpoleon is buddy buddy with them.

> > Some allies, eh?

>

> Which one used chemical weapons on innocent civilians?

Which ones are oppressing and killing their people? Pick one.

RT

March 12, 2007

Bigot Patriot Games wrote:

> "Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

> > Patriot Games wrote:

> >> "Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

> >> > Patriot Games wrote:

> >> >> >> Commentary and opinion.

> >> >> > Analysis by an expert

> >> >> Its lacks FACTS and is therefore USELESS.

> >> > Read it this time.

> >> I read it, its still commentary and opinion by a paid ABC News analyst.

> > What part of "pre-eminent American analyst on Iraq, Anthony Cordesman of

> > the

> > Centre for Strategic and International Studies" did you not understand????

>

> The part where he EARNED that otherwise worthless introduction.

You said he was a "paid ABC News analyst". I showed otherwise. Looks

like your excuse is worthless.

> >> >> >> And why is that bad?

> >> >> > IT'S GOOD??? "Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution"??????? I dare

> >> >> > you

> >> >> > to be more stupid! I dare you!

> >> >> You just don't make any sense. You oppose the Sadrist factions from

> >> >> being

> >> >> in control yet you insist that the ONLY people who can prevent them

> >> >> from

> >> >> gaining control leave Iraq - so that they CAN gain control.

> >> >> Which one do you want?

> >> > Rightards. Geez. The Brits - and the US - failed to cultivate any

> >> > alternative.

> >> You oppose the Sadrist factions from being in control yet you insist that

> >> the ONLY people who can prevent them from gaining control leave Iraq - so

> >> that they CAN gain control.

> >> Which one do you want?

> > What part of "failed to cultivate any alternative" did you not

> > understand???

>

> So you agree that there is no other alternative except to STAY THERE and

> solve it?

That isn't trying to cultivate an alternative. Try again.

> >> >> No there wasn't. There was torturing, murdering, raping, and use of

> >> >> WMD

> >> >> under a terroristic dictator. That is not law and order under ANY

> >> >> international definition.

> >> > You lost all credibility by claiming the non existent WMDs.

> >> You're DUCKING.

> >> So noted.

> > You're so CLUELESS and incapable of reading.

> > So noted.

>

> Still DUCKING.

>

> You're dismissed.

Come back when you find those WMDs.

RT

March 12, 2007

"Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

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> Patriot Games wrote:

>> "Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

>> news:45EE3672.18E5EEA1@hotmMOVEail.com...

>> > Patriot Games wrote:

>> >> "Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

>> >> news:45EA36D8.4B4A93D2@hotmMOVEail.com...

>> >> > Patriot Games wrote:

>> >> >> Succeed at achieving a peaceful Iraq.

>> >> > Had that before the invasion.

>> >> So you think life in a dictatorship is peaceful?

>> > How many bombings were there?

>> I think it was only two series of several bombings each when Saddam used

>> WMD

>> on the Kurds.

>> The other several hunded thousand innocent civilians were machine-gunned

>> to

>> death.

>> Does that answer your question?

> Nope. You've got the 1980s covered. Big deal.

During the 90s there were mass executions but I'm not aware of any bombings.

Are you claiming this is an example of peacefulness?

March 12, 2007

"Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

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> Bigot Patriot Games wrote:

>> "Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

>> > Patriot Games wrote:

>> >> >> >> >> Don't you want the Iraqis to succeed?

>> >> >> >> > Doing what?

>> >> >> >> Running their country without foreign troops present.

>> >> >> > They had that before Chimpoleon cooked up lies to invade.

>> >> >> No they didn't. They didn't run their country. Their country was

>> >> >> run

>> >> >> for them by a dictator.

>> >> > Saddam wasn't an Iraqi?

>> >> Irrelevant.

>> > Highly relevant.

>> Don't you want the Iraqis to succeed?

> Why do you want to stay and have more of our troops die and more of our

> money

> wasted?

Don't you want the Iraqis to succeed? YES or NO.

>> >> >> Do you support dictators or democratic gov't.?

>> >> > Chimpoleon still supports dictators.

>> >> Cite?

http://archive.muslimuzbekistan.com/eng/ennews/2004/03/ennews31032004b.html

You link DOES NOT indicate we SUPPORT them, only that we are working with

them FOR OUR OWN PURPOSES.

>> > Never mind the torture and political prisoners, he's Bush's man

>> We have no control over that country.

> Idiot. That wasn't the point. Chimpoleon is buddy buddy with them.

No proof. We have no control over that country.

>> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4617231.stm

>> We have no control over that country.

> Idiot. That wasn't the point. Chimpoleon is buddy buddy with them.

No proof. We have no control over that country.

>> > http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2006/78717.htm

>> We have no control over that country.

> Idiot. That wasn't the point. Chimpoleon is buddy buddy with them.

No proof. We have no control over that country.

>> > http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2006/78862.htm

>> > Saudia Arabia

>> We have no control over that country.

> Idiot. That wasn't the point. Chimpoleon is buddy buddy with them.

No proof. We have no control over that country.

>> > Some allies, eh?

>> Which one used chemical weapons on innocent civilians?

> Which ones are oppressing and killing their people? Pick one.

Which one used chemical weapons on innocent civilians?

March 15, 2007

Bigot Patriot Games wrote:

>

> "Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

> news:45F4C0A7.67F84E02@hotmMOVEail.com...

> > Patriot Games wrote:

> >> "Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

> >> news:45EE3672.18E5EEA1@hotmMOVEail.com...

> >> > Patriot Games wrote:

> >> >> "Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

> >> >> news:45EA36D8.4B4A93D2@hotmMOVEail.com...

> >> >> > Patriot Games wrote:

> >> >> >> Succeed at achieving a peaceful Iraq.

> >> >> > Had that before the invasion.

> >> >> So you think life in a dictatorship is peaceful?

> >> > How many bombings were there?

> >> I think it was only two series of several bombings each when Saddam used

> >> WMD

> >> on the Kurds.

> >> The other several hunded thousand innocent civilians were machine-gunned

> >> to

> >> death.

> >> Does that answer your question?

> > Nope. You've got the 1980s covered. Big deal.

>

> During the 90s there were mass executions but I'm not aware of any bombings.

>

> Are you claiming this is an example of peacefulness?

Compared to what's going on now???? LOL

RT

March 15, 2007

Patriot Games wrote:

> "Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

> > Bigot Patriot Games wrote:

> >> "Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

> >> > Patriot Games wrote:

> >> >> >> >> >> Don't you want the Iraqis to succeed?

> >> >> >> >> > Doing what?

> >> >> >> >> Running their country without foreign troops present.

> >> >> >> > They had that before Chimpoleon cooked up lies to invade.

> >> >> >> No they didn't. They didn't run their country. Their country was

> >> >> >> run

> >> >> >> for them by a dictator.

> >> >> > Saddam wasn't an Iraqi?

> >> >> Irrelevant.

> >> > Highly relevant.

> >> Don't you want the Iraqis to succeed?

> > Why do you want to stay and have more of our troops die and more of our

> > money

> > wasted?

>

> Don't you want the Iraqis to succeed? YES or NO.

Our leaving would facilitate things greatly - in what's left of Iraq.

> >> >> >> Do you support dictators or democratic gov't.?

> >> >> > Chimpoleon still supports dictators.

> >> >> Cite?

> http://archive.muslimuzbekistan.com/eng/ennews/2004/03/ennews31032004b.html

>

> You link DOES NOT indicate we SUPPORT them, only that we are working with

> them FOR OUR OWN PURPOSES.

Oh fer - you don't keep up, do you?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1484631,00.html

May 16, 2005

The bodies of hundreds of pro-democracy protesters in Uzbekistan are scarcely cold,

and already the White House is looking for ways to dismiss them. The White House

spokesman Scott McClellan said those shot dead in the city of Andijan included

"Islamic terrorists" offering armed resistance. They should, McClellan insists,

seek democratic government "through peaceful means, not through violence".

...

http://www.fpif.org/fpiftxt/469

June 20, 2005

Recent revelations that the United States successfully blocked a call by NATO for

an international investigation of the May 13 massacre of hundreds of civilians by

the government of the former Soviet Republic of Uzbekistan serves as yet another

reminder of the insincerity of the Bush administration

March 15, 2007

"Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

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> Bigot Patriot Games wrote:

>> "Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

>> news:45F4C0A7.67F84E02@hotmMOVEail.com...

>> > Patriot Games wrote:

>> >> "Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

>> >> news:45EE3672.18E5EEA1@hotmMOVEail.com...

>> >> > Patriot Games wrote:

>> >> >> "Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

>> >> >> news:45EA36D8.4B4A93D2@hotmMOVEail.com...

>> >> >> > Patriot Games wrote:

>> >> >> >> Succeed at achieving a peaceful Iraq.

>> >> >> > Had that before the invasion.

>> >> >> So you think life in a dictatorship is peaceful?

>> >> > How many bombings were there?

>> >> I think it was only two series of several bombings each when Saddam

>> >> used

>> >> WMD

>> >> on the Kurds.

>> >> The other several hunded thousand innocent civilians were

>> >> machine-gunned

>> >> to

>> >> death.

>> >> Does that answer your question?

>> > Nope. You've got the 1980s covered. Big deal.

>> During the 90s there were mass executions but I'm not aware of any

>> bombings.

>> Are you claiming this is an example of peacefulness?

> Compared to what's going on now???? LOL

Yes, do you think mass executions of THOUSANDS of people is more peaceful

than the insurgency in Iraq now?

March 15, 2007

"Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

news:45F8EF3B.1E01FF7@hotmMOVEail.com...

> Patriot Games wrote:

>> >> >> >> >> >> Don't you want the Iraqis to succeed?

>> >> >> >> >> > Doing what?

>> >> >> >> >> Running their country without foreign troops present.

>> >> >> >> > They had that before Chimpoleon cooked up lies to invade.

>> >> >> >> No they didn't. They didn't run their country. Their country

>> >> >> >> was

>> >> >> >> run

>> >> >> >> for them by a dictator.

>> >> >> > Saddam wasn't an Iraqi?

>> >> >> Irrelevant.

>> >> > Highly relevant.

>> >> Don't you want the Iraqis to succeed?

>> > Why do you want to stay and have more of our troops die and more of our

>> > money

>> > wasted?

>> Don't you want the Iraqis to succeed? YES or NO.

> Our leaving would facilitate things greatly - in what's left of Iraq.

Do you want the Iraqis to succeed? YES or NO.

>> >> >> >> Do you support dictators or democratic gov't.?

>> >> >> > Chimpoleon still supports dictators.

>> >> >> Cite?

>> http://archive.muslimuzbekistan.com/eng/ennews/2004/03/ennews31032004b.html

>> You link DOES NOT indicate we SUPPORT them, only that we are working with

>> them FOR OUR OWN PURPOSES.

> Oh fer - you don't keep up, do you?

> http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1484631,00.html

> May 16, 2005

> The bodies of hundreds of pro-democracy protesters in Uzbekistan are

> scarcely cold,

> and already the White House is looking for ways to dismiss them. The White

> House

> spokesman Scott McClellan said those shot dead in the city of Andijan

> included

> "Islamic terrorists" offering armed resistance. They should, McClellan

> insists,

> seek democratic government "through peaceful means, not through violence".

> http://www.fpif.org/fpiftxt/469

> June 20, 2005

> Recent revelations that the United States successfully blocked a call by

> NATO for

> an international investigation of the May 13 massacre of hundreds of

> civilians by

> the government of the former Soviet Republic of Uzbekistan serves as yet

> another

> reminder of the insincerity of the Bush administration's claims for

> supporting

> freedom and democracy in the Islamic world and the former Soviet Union.

>> >> > Never mind the torture and political prisoners, he's Bush's man

>> >> We have no control over that country.

>> > Idiot. That wasn't the point. Chimpoleon is buddy buddy with them.

>> No proof. We have no control over that country.

> Sigh. Rightards. We can quit supporting Karimov.

>> >> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4617231.stm

>> >> We have no control over that country.

>> > Idiot. That wasn't the point. Chimpoleon is buddy buddy with them.

>> No proof. We have no control over that country.

> Sigh. Rightards. We can quit supporting Karimov.

>> >> > http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2006/78717.htm

>> >> We have no control over that country.

>> > Idiot. That wasn't the point. Chimpoleon is buddy buddy with them.

>> No proof. We have no control over that country.

> Sigh. Rightards. We can quit supporting Karimov.

>> >> > http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2006/78862.htm

>> >> > Saudia Arabia

>> >> We have no control over that country.

>> > Idiot. That wasn't the point. Chimpoleon is buddy buddy with them.

>> No proof. We have no control over that country.

> Sigh. Rightards. We can quit supporting Karimov.

>> >> > Some allies, eh?

>> >> Which one used chemical weapons on innocent civilians?

>> > Which ones are oppressing and killing their people? Pick one.

>> Which one used chemical weapons on innocent civilians?

> You mean back in the 80s and republicons did nothing and even assured the

> perp it was ok, or a dictator who is currently murdering his citizens???

Which one used chemical weapons on innocent civilians?

March 18, 2007

Bigot Patriot Games wrote:

> "Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

> > Bigot Patriot Games wrote:

> >> "Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

> >> > Patriot Games wrote:

> >> >> "Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

> >> >> > Patriot Games wrote:

> >> >> >> "Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

> >> >> >> news:45EA36D8.4B4A93D2@hotmMOVEail.com...

> >> >> >> > Patriot Games wrote:

> >> >> >> >> Succeed at achieving a peaceful Iraq.

> >> >> >> > Had that before the invasion.

> >> >> >> So you think life in a dictatorship is peaceful?

> >> >> > How many bombings were there?

> >> >> I think it was only two series of several bombings each when Saddam

> >> >> used

> >> >> WMD

> >> >> on the Kurds.

> >> >> The other several hunded thousand innocent civilians were

> >> >> machine-gunned

> >> >> to

> >> >> death.

> >> >> Does that answer your question?

> >> > Nope. You've got the 1980s covered. Big deal.

> >> During the 90s there were mass executions but I'm not aware of any

> >> bombings.

> >> Are you claiming this is an example of peacefulness?

> > Compared to what's going on now???? LOL

>

> Yes, do you think mass executions of THOUSANDS of people is more peaceful

> than the insurgency in Iraq now?

Compared to something that happened 1-0 to 20 years ago? LOL

RT

March 18, 2007

Patriot Games wrote:

>

> "Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

> news:45F8EF3B.1E01FF7@hotmMOVEail.com...

> > Patriot Games wrote:

> >> >> >> >> >> >> Don't you want the Iraqis to succeed?

> >> >> >> >> >> > Doing what?

> >> >> >> >> >> Running their country without foreign troops present.

> >> >> >> >> > They had that before Chimpoleon cooked up lies to invade.

> >> >> >> >> No they didn't. They didn't run their country. Their country

> >> >> >> >> was

> >> >> >> >> run

> >> >> >> >> for them by a dictator.

> >> >> >> > Saddam wasn't an Iraqi?

> >> >> >> Irrelevant.

> >> >> > Highly relevant.

> >> >> Don't you want the Iraqis to succeed?

> >> > Why do you want to stay and have more of our troops die and more of our

> >> > money

> >> > wasted?

> >> Don't you want the Iraqis to succeed? YES or NO.

> > Our leaving would facilitate things greatly - in what's left of Iraq.

>

> Do you want the Iraqis to succeed? YES or NO.

>

> >> >> >> >> Do you support dictators or democratic gov't.?

> >> >> >> > Chimpoleon still supports dictators.

> >> >> >> Cite?

> >> http://archive.muslimuzbekistan.com/eng/ennews/2004/03/ennews31032004b.html

> >> You link DOES NOT indicate we SUPPORT them, only that we are working with

> >> them FOR OUR OWN PURPOSES.

> > Oh fer - you don't keep up, do you?

> > http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1484631,00.html

> > May 16, 2005

> > The bodies of hundreds of pro-democracy protesters in Uzbekistan are

> > scarcely cold,

> > and already the White House is looking for ways to dismiss them. The White

> > House

> > spokesman Scott McClellan said those shot dead in the city of Andijan

> > included

> > "Islamic terrorists" offering armed resistance. They should, McClellan

> > insists,

> > seek democratic government "through peaceful means, not through violence".

> > http://www.fpif.org/fpiftxt/469

> > June 20, 2005

> > Recent revelations that the United States successfully blocked a call by

> > NATO for

> > an international investigation of the May 13 massacre of hundreds of

> > civilians by

> > the government of the former Soviet Republic of Uzbekistan serves as yet

> > another

> > reminder of the insincerity of the Bush administration's claims for

> > supporting

> > freedom and democracy in the Islamic world and the former Soviet Union.

> >> >> > Never mind the torture and political prisoners, he's Bush's man

> >> >> We have no control over that country.

> >> > Idiot. That wasn't the point. Chimpoleon is buddy buddy with them.

> >> No proof. We have no control over that country.

> > Sigh. Rightards. We can quit supporting Karimov.

> >> >> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4617231.stm

> >> >> We have no control over that country.

> >> > Idiot. That wasn't the point. Chimpoleon is buddy buddy with them.

> >> No proof. We have no control over that country.

> > Sigh. Rightards. We can quit supporting Karimov.

> >> >> > http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2006/78717.htm

> >> >> We have no control over that country.

> >> > Idiot. That wasn't the point. Chimpoleon is buddy buddy with them.

> >> No proof. We have no control over that country.

> > Sigh. Rightards. We can quit supporting Karimov.

> >> >> > http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2006/78862.htm

> >> >> > Saudia Arabia

> >> >> We have no control over that country.

> >> > Idiot. That wasn't the point. Chimpoleon is buddy buddy with them.

> >> No proof. We have no control over that country.

> > Sigh. Rightards. We can quit supporting Karimov.

> >> >> > Some allies, eh?

> >> >> Which one used chemical weapons on innocent civilians?

> >> > Which ones are oppressing and killing their people? Pick one.

> >> Which one used chemical weapons on innocent civilians?

> > You mean back in the 80s and republicons did nothing and even assured the

> > perp it was ok, or a dictator who is currently murdering his citizens???

>

> Which one used chemical weapons on innocent civilians?

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/handshake300.jpg

The one on the right in that picture who is being reassured not to worry about

it by the guy on the left.

RT

March 18, 2007

"Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

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> Bigot Patriot Games wrote:

>> "Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

>> > Bigot Patriot Games wrote:

>> >> "Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

>> >> > Patriot Games wrote:

>> >> >> "Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

>> >> >> > Patriot Games wrote:

>> >> >> >> "Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

>> >> >> >> news:45EA36D8.4B4A93D2@hotmMOVEail.com...

>> >> >> >> > Patriot Games wrote:

>> >> >> >> >> Succeed at achieving a peaceful Iraq.

>> >> >> >> > Had that before the invasion.

>> >> >> >> So you think life in a dictatorship is peaceful?

>> >> >> > How many bombings were there?

>> >> >> I think it was only two series of several bombings each when Saddam

>> >> >> used

>> >> >> WMD

>> >> >> on the Kurds.

>> >> >> The other several hunded thousand innocent civilians were

>> >> >> machine-gunned

>> >> >> to

>> >> >> death.

>> >> >> Does that answer your question?

>> >> > Nope. You've got the 1980s covered. Big deal.

>> >> During the 90s there were mass executions but I'm not aware of any

>> >> bombings.

>> >> Are you claiming this is an example of peacefulness?

>> > Compared to what's going on now???? LOL

>> Yes, do you think mass executions of THOUSANDS of people is more peaceful

>> than the insurgency in Iraq now?

> Compared to something that happened 1-0 to 20 years ago? LOL

Do you think mass executions of THOUSANDS of people is more peaceful than

the insurgency in Iraq now - Yes or No.

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