Astronomers Surprised at Getting Paid to Find Waterless Planets

[Guest Mark K. Bilbo]

On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:12:40 +0000, Patriot Games wrote:

> "Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message

> news:pan.2007.02.22.23.55.20.436290@com.mkbilbo...

>> On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 22:04:30 +0000, Patriot Games wrote:

>>> Why don't these astronomers form a for-profit company and see how many

>>> folks

>>> pay them to be astronomers based on what they can produce??????

>> Why don't we form for-profit governments

>

> Did that.

>

>> and mine'll blow yours up...

>

> Did that too.

>

> You had a point?

 

Oh? Where do you have a for-profit government? In your pocket maybe?

 

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------------------------------------------------------------

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other. They slander each other constantly with the vilest

forms of abuse and cannot come to any sort of agreement

in their teachings. Each sect brands its own, fills the

head of its own with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect

little pigs of those it wins over to its side."

- Celsus (2nd century C.E.)

[Guest MarkA]

On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 04:51:11 -0800, Hatter23 wrote:

> On Feb 22, 7:14 pm, MarkA <manth...@stopspam.net> wrote:

>> On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 14:10:52 -0800,Hatterwrote:

>> > On Feb 22, 1:53 pm, MarkA <manth...@stopspam.net> wrote:

>> >> On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:41:23 -0600, the_Host wrote:

>> >> > I wonder how many tax dollars went into this crap?

>>

>> >> > H.

>>

>> >> > "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bast...@Yahoo.com> wrote in message

>> >> >news:w8gDh.3488$XT.940@trnddc06...

>> >> >>http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/2/21/140506.shtml?s=te

>>

>> >> >> Waterless Planets Surprise Astronomers NewsMax.com Wires

>> >> >> Wednesday, Feb. 21, 2007

>>

>> >> I haven't done the math, but i would expect that Bush wastes more

>> >> money in one hour of the Iraq war than they do in NASA funding for a

>> >> year.

>>

>> >> --

>> >> MarkA

>> >> (still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)

>>

>> > "Waste" is, of course, subjective. Non subjectively, the Nasa budget

>> > is roughly 1/3 the outlay of the Iraq war in 06 or 07. Given the

>> > effects or the Iraq was have been largely negative, it could easily be

>> > said the entire outlay was a waste.

>>

>> >Hatter

>>

>> OK, I ran the numbers. According to the National Priorities Project, as

>> of late 2006, the war in Iraq is expected to cost 137 billion dollars in

>> FY 2007, above and beyond the non-wartime cost of maintaining the

>> military. I don't believe that this takes into account the 'surge' that

>> Bush wants to implement. Meanwhile, the annual budget for NASA, FY

>> 2007, according to whitehouse.gov, is about 16 billion. That means that

>> we are spending about 8.6 times NASA's budget to fight in Iraq. And,

>> we're getting such a great return on our investment, no?

>>

>> --

>> MarkA

>> (still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)-

>> Hide quoted text -

>>

>> - Show quoted text -

>

> I looked at the 07 Iraq budget bills at 41.7 billion(Our Nasa figures

> match)...did I get bad info?

>

> Hatter

 

I got mine from the "National Priorities Project." They cite Congress as

the source of their figures. Like most things, the actual cost of the war

is hard to determine, as so many factors are involved. They calculated

the cost of the war above and beyond what it would cost to maintain the

military if we were not at war. This includes things like combat pay, but

does not include normal maintenance, nor does it include increased cost of

VA benefits for injured vets.

 

--

MarkA

(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)

[Guest Frank Mayhar]

On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:32:56 +0000, Patriot Games wrote:

> "Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message

> news:6np1b4-noc.ln1@tinker.exit.com...

>> On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 22:04:30 +0000, Patriot Games wrote:

>>> "Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message

>>> news:pan.2007.02.22.18.04.37.666632@com.mkbilbo...

>>>> If you don't like living in a high technology society, move.

>>> This isn't high technology its a colossal ripoff.

>> It is indeed high-tech. It's also about trying to learn about the

>> universe of

>> which we're a part.

>

> Bullshit. Name JUST ONE commercial spin-off from astronomy in the last

> TWENTY YEARS.

> Just one.

 

Ghod you're dumb. Here's your "just one:" http://www.zazzle.com/fmayhar

 

And then there are the industries built around building the mirrors and

electronics, such as at http://www.e-scopes.cc/ (the very first Google hit

for "telescope mirrors," by the way). The CCD in your digital camera? Part

of the development was spun off from research on CCDs used in astronomy,

which used them long before they were available to consumers.

 

There are a _lot_ more but I'm not going to waste my time proving it to you

since you're obviously just an idiot.

>>> Wanna know why college tuition is so expensive? Its because a portion of

>>> college tuition goes to pay for all this USELESS bullshit.

>> Actually, that's almost completely untrue. Most of this kind of research

>> is

>> paid for with public funds; it's also often paid for by philanthropic

>> institutions.

>

> Bullshit. Cite?

 

Public funding: The NSF (http://www.nsf.gov/), for example. Private

funding: Sigma Xi (http://www.sigmaxi.org/programs/giar/index.shtml), the

American Astronomical Society (http://www.aas.org/grants/chretien.html), the

John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation (http://www.macfound.org/), as

just three examples of many.

 

You owe me an apology. Not that I'm expecting one from someone like you.

>>> Why don't these astronomers form a for-profit company and see how many

>>> folks

>>> pay them to be astronomers based on what they can produce??????

>> Just because you're an ignorant idiot doesn't mean that's true of the rest

>> of

>> us. Oh, and what they _produce_ is knowledge. Lots of it.

> You said it was mostly paid for with public funds and philanthropy so

> why in the world wouldn't they WANT to generate a RETURN on that???

 

Er, they're getting it. Just not in dollars. Reread what I wrote about

them producing knowledge. Better yet, get someone to explain it to you,

because you obviously have reading comprehension problems.

> Answer: Because you lied and they can't.

 

Fuck you, you ignorant little prick.

>> Oh, and what they _produce_ is knowledge. Lots of it.

> Which has exactly HOW MUCH commercial value?

 

Well, in my particular case, exactly ten percent of each sale through

Zazzle. But there are lots of people who make their entire livings from it,

see above.

>> Not to mention tons of cool pictures, many of which are in the public

>> domain

>> since they were generated by publicly-funded projects such as the Hubble

>> Space

>> Telescope and Spitzer, among others.

> "Publicly-funded projects" = TAXPAYER got fucked, again.

 

No, just you.

> This whole fantasy with Space has grown old and tired. There isn't

anything

> out there. We can't go anywhere out there. We get NOTHING back for our

> investment.

 

Just because you're too ignorant to see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist,

dickhead.

> During Mercury-Gemini-Apollo we generated PILES of commercially viable

> spin-offs which, paid for EXCLUSIVELY by American taxpayers, practically

> technologically revolutionized the entire planet.

 

And in the 70s and 80s there were people exactly like you complaining that

there was no commercial return on the money spent for those programs.

Ignorant fucks just like you and ignorant in exactly the same way.

> Today what do we get? NASA crashes a spaceship on liftoff and kills

> everybody, NASA crashes a spaceship on landing and kills everybody, NASA

> goes to Mars and gets lost,

 

Man, you _are_ an ignorant little whiner, aren't you?

> NASA goes to Mars and tells us not one fucking

> thing that we didn't already know,

 

Well, except for almost everything we've learning about Mars in the last

twenty years. But that doesn't matter to you, since your mind is already

made up.

 

I snipped the rest of your inane rantings because they're not worth the time

it would take to respond to them. Fortunately for the human race, you're

not in charge. Kindly take your ignorant droolings, fuck off, and die.

--

Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/

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http://www.zazzle.com/fmayhar

[Guest Ben Kaufman]

On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 12:04:39 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

>On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:41:23 -0600, the_Host wrote:

>

>> Subject: Re: Astronomers Surprised at Getting Paid to Find Waterless Planets

>> From: "the_Host" <the_Host@everywhere.net>

>> Newsgroups: alt.politics,alt.atheism

>> Message-ID: <2eef1$45ddb986$4088c657$14090@EVERESTKC.NET>

>> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:41:23 -0600

>>

>> I wonder how many tax dollars went into this crap?

>

>If you don't like living in a high technology society, move. Afghanistan,

>I understand, has little to no science around to bother you...

 

It depends upon what your life style is. For example, if one wishes to remain

physically active well into old age then a country with a good history of

public stonings might be more suitable.

 

Ben

[Guest Ben Kaufman]

On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 22:04:30 GMT, "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@Yahoo.com>

wrote:

>"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message

>news:pan.2007.02.22.18.04.37.666632@com.mkbilbo...

>> On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:41:23 -0600, the_Host wrote:

>>> Subject: Re: Astronomers Surprised at Getting Paid to Find Waterless

>>> Planets

>>> From: "the_Host" <the_Host@everywhere.net>

>>> Newsgroups: alt.politics,alt.atheism

>>> Message-ID: <2eef1$45ddb986$4088c657$14090@EVERESTKC.NET>

>>> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:41:23 -0600

>>> I wonder how many tax dollars went into this crap?

>> If you don't like living in a high technology society, move.

>

>This isn't high technology its a colossal ripoff.

>

>Wanna know why college tuition is so expensive? Its because a portion of

>college tuition goes to pay for all this USELESS bullshit.

>

>Why don't these astronomers form a for-profit company and see how many folks

>pay them to be astronomers based on what they can produce??????

>

>

 

Yeah, I mean does it really matter whether the earth is 6 thousand or 4 billion

years old? It's probably not going to make much of a difference to you?

 

Ben

[Guest Ben Kaufman]

On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 19:14:36 -0500, MarkA <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote:

>On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 14:10:52 -0800, Hatter wrote:

>

>> On Feb 22, 1:53 pm, MarkA <manth...@stopspam.net> wrote:

>>> On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:41:23 -0600, the_Host wrote:

>>> > I wonder how many tax dollars went into this crap?

>>>

>>> > H.

>>>

>>> > "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bast...@Yahoo.com> wrote in message

>>> >news:w8gDh.3488$XT.940@trnddc06...

>>> >>http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/2/21/140506.shtml?s=te

>>>

>>> >> Waterless Planets Surprise Astronomers NewsMax.com Wires Wednesday,

>>> >> Feb. 21, 2007

>>>

>>> I haven't done the math, but i would expect that Bush wastes more money

>>> in one hour of the Iraq war than they do in NASA funding for a year.

>>>

>>> --

>>> MarkA

>>> (still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)

>>

>> "Waste" is, of course, subjective. Non subjectively, the Nasa budget is

>> roughly 1/3 the outlay of the Iraq war in 06 or 07. Given the effects or

>> the Iraq was have been largely negative, it could easily be said the

>> entire outlay was a waste.

>>

>> Hatter

>

>OK, I ran the numbers. According to the National Priorities Project, as

>of late 2006, the war in Iraq is expected to cost 137 billion dollars in

>FY 2007, above and beyond the non-wartime cost of maintaining the

>military. I don't believe that this takes into account the 'surge' that

>Bush wants to implement. Meanwhile, the annual budget for NASA, FY 2007,

>according to whitehouse.gov, is about 16 billion. That means that we are

>spending about 8.6 times NASA's budget to fight in Iraq. And, we're

>getting such a great return on our investment, no?

 

I also wonder how much of NASA's budget goes towards classified government

projects? How often have we heard the term "classified payload" at a launch?

 

Ben

[Guest Al Klein]

On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:41:23 -0600, "the_Host"

<the_Host@everywhere.net> wrote:

>I wonder how many tax dollars went into this crap?

 

Spain spent a fortune sending Columbus to the east, and got nothing in

return. I guess finding the New World was wasted money.

[Guest Bert Byfield]

> Spain spent a fortune sending Columbus to the east, and got

> nothing in return. I guess finding the New World was wasted

> money.

 

They ripped off the Mayan and other Indians for a huge amount of gold

and slaves. It paid off big time. Who knows what we will find on Mars?

[Guest Douglas Berry]

On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 16:31:14 -0500 there was an Ancient Ben Kaufman

<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> who stoppeth one in

alt.atheism

>I also wonder how much of NASA's budget goes towards classified government

>projects? How often have we heard the term "classified payload" at a launch?

 

In those cases all NASA pays for is the actual launch. Whatever agency

is sending up the payload (NRO, DOD, etc) pays for the satellite and

booster.

--

 

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"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the

source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a

stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as

good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein

[Guest Ben Kaufman]

On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 17:46:59 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:

>On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:41:23 -0600, "the_Host"

><the_Host@everywhere.net> wrote:

>

>>I wonder how many tax dollars went into this crap?

>

>Spain spent a fortune sending Columbus to the east, and got nothing in

>return. I guess finding the New World was wasted money.

 

What do you mean? Columbus taught the natives Spanish rather than Italian

<g>.

 

Ben

[Guest Ben Kaufman]

On 23 Feb 2007 23:04:00 GMT, Bert Byfield <BertByfield@nospam.not> wrote:

>> Spain spent a fortune sending Columbus to the east, and got

>> nothing in return. I guess finding the New World was wasted

>> money.

>

>They ripped off the Mayan and other Indians for a huge amount of gold

>and slaves. It paid off big time. Who knows what we will find on Mars?

>

>

>

 

And advanced civilization that is now bombarding earth with "stupid rays" to

thwart our chances of colonizing it. :-)

 

Ben

[Guest Al Klein]

On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 08:48:19 -0500, Ben Kaufman

<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 17:46:59 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:

>

>>On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:41:23 -0600, "the_Host"

>><the_Host@everywhere.net> wrote:

>>

>>>I wonder how many tax dollars went into this crap?

>>

>>Spain spent a fortune sending Columbus to the east, and got nothing in

>>return. I guess finding the New World was wasted money.

>

>What do you mean? Columbus taught the natives Spanish rather than Italian

 

The ones he didn't kill?

[Guest Patriot Games]

"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message

news:pan.2007.02.23.16.08.34.777636@com.mkbilbo...

> On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:12:40 +0000, Patriot Games wrote:

>> "Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message

>> news:pan.2007.02.22.23.55.20.436290@com.mkbilbo...

>>> On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 22:04:30 +0000, Patriot Games wrote:

>>>> Why don't these astronomers form a for-profit company and see how many

>>>> folks

>>>> pay them to be astronomers based on what they can produce??????

>>> Why don't we form for-profit governments

>> Did that.

>>> and mine'll blow yours up...

>> Did that too.

>> You had a point?

> Oh? Where do you have a for-profit government? In your pocket maybe?

 

Losers alway schange the subject when they get caught losing.....

[Guest Patriot Games]

"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message

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> On 23 Feb., 15:32, "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bast...@Yahoo.com> wrote:

>> "Frank Mayhar" <f...@exit.com> wrote in message

>> news:6np1b4-noc.ln1@tinker.exit.com...

>> > On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 22:04:30 +0000, Patriot Games wrote:

>> >> "Mark K. Bilbo" <g...@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message

>> >>news:pan.2007.02.22.18.04.37.666632@com.mkbilbo...

>> >>> If you don't like living in a high technology society, move.

>> >> This isn't high technology its a colossal ripoff.

>> > It is indeed high-tech. It's also about trying to learn about the

>> > universe of

>> > which we're a part.

>> Bullshit. Name JUST ONE commercial spin-off from astronomy in the last

>> TWENTY YEARS.

>> Just one.

>> >> Wanna know why college tuition is so expensive? Its because a portion

>> >> of

>> >> college tuition goes to pay for all this USELESS bullshit.

>> > Actually, that's almost completely untrue. Most of this kind of

>> > research

>> > is

>> > paid for with public funds; it's also often paid for by philanthropic

>> > institutions.

>> Bullshit. Cite?

>> >> Why don't these astronomers form a for-profit company and see how many

>> >> folks

>> >> pay them to be astronomers based on what they can produce??????

>> > Just because you're an ignorant idiot doesn't mean that's true of the

>> > rest

>> > of

>> > us. Oh, and what they _produce_ is knowledge. Lots of it.

>> You said it was mostly paid for with public funds and philanthropy so why

>> in

>> the world wouldn't they WANT to generate a RETURN on that???

> What's the return on the war in Iraq, goose-stepping moron?

 

Losers always change the subject when they get caught losing....

[Guest Patriot Games]

"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message

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> On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:32:56 +0000, Patriot Games wrote:

>> "Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in message

>> news:6np1b4-noc.ln1@tinker.exit.com...

>>> On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 22:04:30 +0000, Patriot Games wrote:

>>>> "Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message

>>>> news:pan.2007.02.22.18.04.37.666632@com.mkbilbo...

>>>>> If you don't like living in a high technology society, move.

>>>> This isn't high technology its a colossal ripoff.

>>> It is indeed high-tech. It's also about trying to learn about the

>>> universe of

>>> which we're a part.

>> Bullshit. Name JUST ONE commercial spin-off from astronomy in the last

>> TWENTY YEARS.

>> Just one.

> Ghod you're dumb. Here's your "just one:" http://www.zazzle.com/fmayhar

 

Pictures???? What BULLSHIT???? Pay attention this time, I said "commercial

spin-off" relevant to the Apollo program - SUCH AS MICROWAVE OVENS.....

 

Waiting...

> And then there are the industries built around building the mirrors and

> electronics, such as at http://www.e-scopes.cc/ (the very first Google hit

> for "telescope mirrors," by the way). The CCD in your digital camera?

> Part

> of the development was spun off from research on CCDs used in astronomy,

> which used them long before they were available to consumers.

 

You FAILED to prove CCD was a NASA spin-off.

> There are a _lot_ more but I'm not going to waste my time proving it to

> you

> since you're obviously just an idiot.

 

You apparently FAILED.

>>>> Wanna know why college tuition is so expensive? Its because a portion

>>>> of

>>>> college tuition goes to pay for all this USELESS bullshit.

>>> Actually, that's almost completely untrue. Most of this kind of

>>> research

>>> is

>>> paid for with public funds; it's also often paid for by philanthropic

>>> institutions.

>> Bullshit. Cite?

> Public funding: The NSF (http://www.nsf.gov/), for example. Private

> funding: Sigma Xi (http://www.sigmaxi.org/programs/giar/index.shtml), the

> American Astronomical Society (http://www.aas.org/grants/chretien.html),

> the

> John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation (http://www.macfound.org/),

> as

> just three examples of many.

 

What percent of TOTAL funding is represented by PRIVATE funding???

> You owe me an apology. Not that I'm expecting one from someone like you.

 

You FAILED to document a commercial spin-off and offered pictures, then you

FAILED to document a spin-off but pretended NASA invented CCD for itself

when commercial interestd invented CCD, then you FAILED to meaningfully

document the private funding.

 

It seems to me that you owe THE WHOLE COUNTRY an apology for supporting

non-contributing space photographers.

>>>> Why don't these astronomers form a for-profit company and see how many

>>>> folks

>>>> pay them to be astronomers based on what they can produce??????

>>> Just because you're an ignorant idiot doesn't mean that's true of the

>>> rest

>>> of

>>> us. Oh, and what they _produce_ is knowledge. Lots of it.

>> You said it was mostly paid for with public funds and philanthropy so

>> why in the world wouldn't they WANT to generate a RETURN on that???

> Er, they're getting it. Just not in dollars. Reread what I wrote about

> them producing knowledge. Better yet, get someone to explain it to you,

> because you obviously have reading comprehension problems.

 

Its USELESS knowledge. Right now, today, the knowledge they produce

contributes ZERO to solving our problems.

>> Answer: Because you lied and they can't.

> Fuck you, you ignorant little prick.

 

Admit you're a failure.

>>> Oh, and what they _produce_ is knowledge. Lots of it.

>> Which has exactly HOW MUCH commercial value?

> Well, in my particular case, exactly ten percent of each sale through

> Zazzle. But there are lots of people who make their entire livings from

> it,

> see above.

 

Taxpayers PAID FOR IT, please document how TAXPAYERS are getting a return.

>> This whole fantasy with Space has grown old and tired. There isn't

> anything

>> out there. We can't go anywhere out there. We get NOTHING back for our

>> investment.

> Just because you're too ignorant to see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist,

> dickhead.

 

You're a failure. Admit that you're a lazy fuck bleeding the taxpayers and

giving nothing in return.

> I snipped the rest of your inane rantings because they're not worth the

> time

> it would take to respond to them. Fortunately for the human race, you're

> not in charge. Kindly take your ignorant droolings, fuck off, and die.

 

Make me.

[Guest Patriot Games]

"Ben Kaufman" <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote in message

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> On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 22:04:30 GMT, "Patriot Games"

> <Crazy_Bastard@Yahoo.com>

> wrote:

>>"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message

>>news:pan.2007.02.22.18.04.37.666632@com.mkbilbo...

>>> On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:41:23 -0600, the_Host wrote:

>>>> Subject: Re: Astronomers Surprised at Getting Paid to Find

>>>> Waterless

>>>> Planets

>>>> From: "the_Host" <the_Host@everywhere.net>

>>>> Newsgroups: alt.politics,alt.atheism

>>>> Message-ID: <2eef1$45ddb986$4088c657$14090@EVERESTKC.NET>

>>>> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:41:23 -0600

>>>> I wonder how many tax dollars went into this crap?

>>> If you don't like living in a high technology society, move.

>>This isn't high technology its a colossal ripoff.

>>Wanna know why college tuition is so expensive? Its because a portion of

>>college tuition goes to pay for all this USELESS bullshit.

>>Why don't these astronomers form a for-profit company and see how many

>>folks

>>pay them to be astronomers based on what they can produce??????

> Yeah, I mean does it really matter whether the earth is 6 thousand or 4

> billion

> years old? It's probably not going to make much of a difference to you?

 

It matters, but dealing with nuclear waste matters more.

 

Energy efficiency matters more.

 

Pollution matters more.

 

Curing diseases matters more.

 

Feel-good science at the expense of taxpayers for whom real problems go

unsolved should be banned or at least not publically funded.

[Guest Mark K. Bilbo]

On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:09:24 +0000, Patriot Games wrote:

> "Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message

> news:pan.2007.02.23.16.08.34.777636@com.mkbilbo...

>> On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:12:40 +0000, Patriot Games wrote:

>>> "Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message

>>> news:pan.2007.02.22.23.55.20.436290@com.mkbilbo...

>>>> On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 22:04:30 +0000, Patriot Games wrote:

>>>>> Why don't these astronomers form a for-profit company and see how many

>>>>> folks

>>>>> pay them to be astronomers based on what they can produce??????

>>>> Why don't we form for-profit governments

>>> Did that.

>>>> and mine'll blow yours up...

>>> Did that too.

>>> You had a point?

>> Oh? Where do you have a for-profit government? In your pocket maybe?

>

> Losers alway schange the subject when they get caught losing.....

 

http://tinyurl.com/bm3vz

 

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Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423

EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion

------------------------------------------------------------

"Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each

other. They slander each other constantly with the vilest

forms of abuse and cannot come to any sort of agreement

in their teachings. Each sect brands its own, fills the

head of its own with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect

little pigs of those it wins over to its side."

- Celsus (2nd century C.E.)

[Guest Patriot Games]

"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message

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> On 23 Feb., 15:35, "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bast...@Yahoo.com> wrote:

>> "Parsifal" <jeanpascalvac...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>> If you weren't a thumbsucking coward you wouldn't be hiding your real ISP

>> behind a GMail account.....

> If you weren't a thumbsucking moron, you'd see my complete email

> address, and my real name, next to my alias, between crotchets..

 

You hide behind a GMail account because you're a foreigner who likes to bash

America while pretending to be an American.

> BTW, is "bastard" your first name or your family name?

> What's wrong with a Gmail account? You want to use it to send me

> insults privately?

 

Haven't got the time...

[Guest Patriot Games]

"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message

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> On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:41:23 -0600, "the_Host"

> <the_Host@everywhere.net> wrote:

>>I wonder how many tax dollars went into this crap?

> Spain spent a fortune sending Columbus to the east, and got nothing in

> return. I guess finding the New World was wasted money.

 

It wasn't my money....

[Guest Patriot Games]

"Bert Byfield" <BertByfield@nospam.not> wrote in message

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>> Spain spent a fortune sending Columbus to the east, and got

>> nothing in return. I guess finding the New World was wasted

>> money.

> They ripped off the Mayan and other Indians for a huge amount of gold

> and slaves. It paid off big time. Who knows what we will find on Mars?

 

Thirsty aliens needing suntan lotion. Some asshole Democrat will probably

want to make them all US citizens the moment we find them.

 

If we're lucky a Republican Congress will be back in session and we'll put

the Martians to work making something out of plastic.

[Guest Patriot Games]

"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message

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>>What do you mean? Columbus taught the natives Spanish rather than

>>Italian

> The ones he didn't kill?

 

He wanted a select few to know what "Give me a blowjob" meant...

[Guest Mark K. Bilbo]

On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:22:21 +0000, Patriot Games wrote:

> Its USELESS knowledge.

 

There is no such thing.

 

Pure research may not show immediate use but simply cannot predict what

will and will not produce in time.

 

The laser was a pure research project. It was, at the time, referred to as

a "solution in search of a problem." Nobody knew what to do with it.

 

You probably would have had an absolute tantrum over the waste of money,

time, and effort on such a useless project...

 

--

Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423

EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion

------------------------------------------------------------

"Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each

other. They slander each other constantly with the vilest

forms of abuse and cannot come to any sort of agreement

in their teachings. Each sect brands its own, fills the

head of its own with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect

little pigs of those it wins over to its side."

- Celsus (2nd century C.E.)

[Guest Brian Westley]

"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> writes:

>On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:22:21 +0000, Patriot Games wrote:

>> Its USELESS knowledge.

>There is no such thing.

 

Actually, to this 'Patriot Games' moron, knowledge IS useless.

 

It isn't useless to non-morons, though.

 

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Merlyn LeRoy

[Guest Frank Mayhar]

On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:22:21 +0000, Patriot Games wrote:

> [bullshit as usual.]

>> And then there are the industries built around building the mirrors and

>> electronics, such as at http://www.e-scopes.cc/ (the very first Google hit

>> for "telescope mirrors," by the way). The CCD in your digital camera?

>> Part

>> of the development was spun off from research on CCDs used in astronomy,

>> which used them long before they were available to consumers.

>

> You FAILED to prove CCD was a NASA spin-off.

 

Oh, go fuck yourself sideways with a rusty saw, you brain-damaged illiterate

piece of ignorant filth. Corresponding with you is of less use than trying to

reason with a rabid religious fundamentalist and for identical reasons.

 

plonk

> Make me.

 

Did that, just now. Byeee!

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[Guest Pete]

For those who think the US is wasting money on space research, ask

yourself this - who would you rather have a base on the moon - China

or the West? (Or bases in the asteroid belt, for that matter). Which

country is closer to achieving that reality?

 

Does anyone here even know what is going on with the Chinese space

program?

 

 

Pete

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