RegisteredandEducated {Vintage WPYO Post}

[lokibird]

How about same-sex polygamy where one man marries two other men? I think that is what's known as a cluster f-ck.

 

I am a woman so you go right ahead. I just was trying to get beyond explitives and into to more intellectual analysis of the social situtations being a student of the social sciences. You can be as morphoditical as you want.

[bart1123]

I am not excluding multiple husbands and one wife either lol

I inadvertantly implied that this was only a debate regarding multiple wives for one husband...I apologize I'd be interested to see if anyone would be offended by that concept but not bothered by 1 husband multiple wives.

 

I was fascinated by the information you posted from your Anthroplolgy class. It never occured to me that ploygamy would bring families closer together. My assumption was that eventually in ploygamious(sp?) relationships jealousy, and emotion would eventually become a factor and the relationships would suffer. Realizing too that these examples were accepted practices of the time and therefore not viewed out of place, my assumption deals only with the socity of the last 75 years or so.

 

Although you could almost look at modern society and see how an extra income in the family or an extra adult to help with child care might be handy,

eventhough it is not necessary for survival.

 

excellent point...but I still find it hard not to approach it from an emotional angle. What does sociology say about people and their emotional needs in a relationship/marriage? And perhaps it is more a psycoligical question than a socioligical one, but if a man (or woman) has more than one spouse what is the emotional toll that takes on all members of the marriage(s)? Will it eventually boil down to someone needing to be the alpha-female/male and the compition for that role being destructive to the marriage(s) as a whole?

 

How about same-sex polygamy where one man marries two other men? I think that is what's known as a cluster f-ck.

<with large smile and tongue planted firmly in cheek> Gays and Lesbians are having enough trouble getting married to ONE person...If they wanted polygamious marriages I think the opponents would implode!

 

Great arguments lokibird, looking forward to your response.

 

Bart

[lokibird]

I inadvertantly implied that this was only a debate regarding multiple wives for one husband...I apologize I'd be interested to see if anyone would be offended by that concept but not bothered by 1 husband multiple wives.

 

I was fascinated by the information you posted from your Anthroplolgy class. It never occured to me that ploygamy would bring families closer together. My assumption was that eventually in ploygamious(sp?) relationships jealousy, and emotion would eventually become a factor and the relationships would suffer. Realizing too that these examples were accepted practices of the time and therefore not viewed out of place, my assumption deals only with the socity of the last 75 years or so.

 

 

 

excellent point...but I still find it hard not to approach it from an emotional angle. What does sociology say about people and their emotional needs in a relationship/marriage? And perhaps it is more a psycoligical question than a socioligical one, but if a man (or woman) has more than one spouse what is the emotional toll that takes on all members of the marriage(s)? Will it eventually boil down to someone needing to be the alpha-female/male and the compition for that role being destructive to the marriage(s) as a whole?

 

 

<with large smile and tongue planted firmly in cheek> Gays and Lesbians are having enough trouble getting married to ONE person...If they wanted polygamious marriages I think the opponents would implode!

 

Great arguments lokibird, looking forward to your response.

 

Bart

 

I do believe that socialization makes a big difference in both the acceptance of gays/ lesbians as well as polygamy (in any form). I just think your average modern American would probably suffer more mentally in relationships like these as I believe that we are raised to be competative in all areas of life including in relationships. I personally know that I think I could handle an additional husband before I could handle an additional wife (jealousy being a problem for me as well). However because these kinds of relationships have historically worked in accepting societies, I can not completely rule out that they could not work again. I just do not think America is ready. All marriages are actually civil unions legally and my brother as well as some of my gay friends feel that it is wrong to deny "civil unions" to a small segment of the population. My faith and conservative nature tends to want to deny it being called "marriage" for them. Therefore in both arguements on the site thus far, I have truly been conflicted myself. This is why I think the historical and anthropological perspectives give me some clarification mentally. In addition, previously people have tried to demonstrate the wrongness of it all by adding in the marriage of such things as pets and inanimate objects, which is absurd since I can not find an example in traditional society where marriage to these things was ever accepted by a society as normal. (Those out there who are aware of these examples please site an example of your legitimate research sources as I did earlier. I am truly interested in data).

[lokibird]

RegisteredandEducated ---Happy Birthday or Tillykke med Fodseldagen!

[TheJenn88]

And as humans, who are we to even DECIDE where the line should be drawn? Personally, I think it's disgusting that humans have entitled themselves to make such decisions for other people. Not that I believe in God, but like...who has the right to decide?

 

I mean, certain types of marriages shouldn't be allowed, for safety and regulation reasons. I mean, sex with dogs? mm. Hybrid babies But as far as people go, what should you care? What should ANYONE else care who loves who? Last time I checked, no one else got to decide which man I would love, so who would get to decide which woman, women, or men I'd love? (I'm female) Society doesn't care if I decide, "Oh, I love Bob" but as soon as "Ohhh I love Shauna", then it's a big deal. I mean, my loving "Bob" doesn't affect them, why would loving another female? Or for that matter, having polygimous (new word?) marriages. My point is, love and marriage stays within the homes, and it's not affecting anyone else, so why should anyone else care?

[lokibird]

And as humans, who are we to even DECIDE where the line should be drawn? Personally, I think it's disgusting that humans have entitled themselves to make such decisions for other people. Not that I believe in God, but like...who has the right to decide?

 

I mean, certain types of marriages shouldn't be allowed, for safety and regulation reasons. I mean, sex with dogs? mm. Hybrid babies But as far as people go, what should you care? What should ANYONE else care who loves who? Last time I checked, no one else got to decide which man I would love, so who would get to decide which woman, women, or men I'd love? (I'm female) Society doesn't care if I decide, "Oh, I love Bob" but as soon as "Ohhh I love Shauna", then it's a big deal. I mean, my loving "Bob" doesn't affect them, why would loving another female? Or for that matter, having polygimous (new word?) marriages. My point is, love and marriage stays within the homes, and it's not affecting anyone else, so why should anyone else care?

 

 

I agree that as long as no one is getting hurt by the relationship then fine. However, societies always need to draw lines or else there would not be a need for societies. The line I draw is PDAs of all kinds beyond a quick peck on the cheek, hugs, or hand holding. That is me personally. The rest is better kept private. I also do not agree with rape, beastiality or pediophilia (sp?), having been abused myself.

[phreakwars]

Ah another classic GF post, and it's even got the rantings of tizz' predecessor Lokibird. (Fucking bitch, good ridance).

 

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[Hamza123]

Whos, Lokibird?

 

Phreak I've been wonder about that sig of yours... Did that cop loose his job? Meh, I woulda done the same thing.