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[ToriAllen]

Face it, she just wouldn't know what a Hugh G. Rekshun is. She has never saw one.

 

That's funny, neither have you. In fact, when is the last time you could look down and see your own erection, tubby?

[phreakwars]

That's funny, neither have you. In fact, when is the last time you could look down and see your own erection, tubby?

Just last night thank you.

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[ToriAllen]

Just last night thank you.

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Thank God for mirrors, huh?

[phreakwars]

No, was more like, Mrs. Phreakwars pulled her lips back after I blew a load... and yep.. there it was... the shaft and head. Want pictures ?

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[RoyalOrleans]

No, was more like, Mrs. Phreakwars pulled her lips back after I blew a load... and yep.. there it was... the shaft and head. Want pictures ?

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That's a hell of a fucking thing to say about the mother of your children.

[Lethalfind]

Interesting, blah blah blah, blah blah blah

[daddyholland]

Hello all, names Darnell...I just happened apon this site and thought it was pretty cool. Look forward to sharing my "two cents" with everyone and for anyone who gets "pissed off" over my two cents, suck it up! Because your stuck with it for atleast a year....lol.

 

See you in the forums!

darnell

[Phantom]

Hello all, names Darnell...I just happened apon this site and thought it was pretty cool. Look forward to sharing my "two cents" with everyone and for anyone who gets "pissed off" over my two cents, suck it up! Because your stuck with it for atleast a year....lol.

 

See you in the forums!

darnell

 

That's the quickest premium purchase I have ever seen. Oh and by the way- Darnell is a gay name.

[manicmonday]

Hello all, names Darnell...I just happened apon this site and thought it was pretty cool. Look forward to sharing my "two cents" with everyone and for anyone who gets "pissed off" over my two cents, suck it up! Because your stuck with it for atleast a year....lol.

 

See you in the forums!

darnell

 

Don't be a tool.

[phreakwars]

Hello all, names Darnell...I just happened apon this site and thought it was pretty cool. Look forward to sharing my "two cents" with everyone and for anyone who gets "pissed off" over my two cents, suck it up! Because your stuck with it for atleast a year....lol.

 

See you in the forums!

darnell

Well then, have some free rep for coughing up $12 for the avatar and shit.

 

If you need help setting one up, just let us know.

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[RoyalOrleans]

Hello all, names Darnell...I just happened apon this site and thought it was pretty cool. Look forward to sharing my "two cents" with everyone and for anyone who gets "pissed off" over my two cents, suck it up! Because your stuck with it for atleast a year....lol.

 

See you in the forums!

darnell

 

Welcome to GF, cocksucker.

[RoyalOrleans]

That's the quickest premium purchase I have ever seen. Oh and by the way- Darnell is a gay name.

 

Darnell is the name of a character on My Name is Earl.

 

From this point on, Darnell is officially "Crabman" in my mind.

[daddyholland]

Welcome to GF, cocksucker.

Thanks to everyone for the warm wellcome.... I read this one and I almost pissed myself laughing!

 

Darnell is the name of a character on My Name is Earl.

 

From this point on, Darnell is officially "Crabman" in my mind.

 

I read this one and was shocked! How dare you compare me with an american....I can almost hear the Canadian jokes fly now.

[ToriAllen]

I read this one and was shocked! How dare you compare me with an american....

 

No shit. What's wrong with you RO? Everyone knows Canadians can't act.

[RoyalOrleans]

Thanks to everyone for the warm wellcome.... I read this one and I almost pissed myself laughing!

 

I come to forums armed with fucking hysterics. Mind your pissing and giggling, you might make some strange bedfellows.

 

I read this one and was shocked! How dare you compare me with an american....I can almost hear the Canadian jokes fly now.

 

So you're from the U.S.'s largest national park? I didn't think RVs were allowed beyond Niagra.

[RoyalOrleans]

No shit. What's wrong with you RO? Everyone knows Canadians can't act.

 

Dave Foley is damn fine actor.

[ToriAllen]

Dave Foley is damn fine actor.

 

You can only think of one? I rest my case.

[daddyholland]

You can only think of one? I rest my case.

 

Aykroyd, Dan: Comedian, Actor. "Saturday Night Live", "The Blues Brothers"

Bain, Conrad: Actor. "Diff'rent Strokes", "Maude".

Bairstow, Scott: Actor. "Lonesome Dove: The Series"

Bluteau, Lothaire : Actor. "Jesus of Montreal", "Black Robe"

Bochner, Lloyd: Actor. "Dynasty", "Naked Gun 2 1/2: The Smell of Fear"

Burr, Raymond: Actor. "Perry Mason", "Ironside"

Candy, John: Comedian, Actor. "SCTV"

Carrey, Jim: Comedian, Actor. "The Mask", "Ace Ventura: Pet Detective", "The Truman Show"

Carson, Jack: Actor. "Mildred Pierce", "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof"

Chaykin, Maury: Actor. "Dances with Wolves", "Whale Music", "Buried on Sunday"

Chong, Thomas: Comedian, Actor. Half of Cheech and Chong

Colicos, John: Actor. "Anne of a Thousand Days", "The Postman Always Rings Twice", played the first Klingon on "Star Trek", "Battlestar Galactica"

Cronyn, Hume: Actor. "Shadow of a Doubt", "Sunrise at Campobello", "Cocoon"

Doohan, James: Actor. Scotty on "Star Trek"

Elliott, David James: Actor. "Melrose Place", "JAG"

Foley, David: Comedian, Actor. "Kids in the Hall", "News Radio"

Ford, Glenn: Actor. "Gilda", "The Big Heat", "The Blackboard Jungle".

Fox, Michael J.: Actor. "Back to the Future", "Family Ties"

Fraser, Brendan: Actor. "Gods and Monsters", "The Mummy"

Frewer, Matt: Actor. played "Max Headroom", "Honey, I Shrunk the Kids", "Star Trek:TNG"

George, Chief Dan: Actor. "Little Big Man" (AAN), "The Outlaw Josey Wales"

Goulet, Robert: Singer, Actor. "Naked Gun 2 1/2: The Smell of Fear"

Greene, Graham: Actor. "Dances with Wolves" (AAN)

Greene, Lorne: Actor. Played Ben Cartwright on "Bonanza", "Battlestar Galactica"

Greenwood, Bruce: Actor. "Exotica", "St. Elsewhere", "Nowhere Man"

Gross, Paul: Actor. "Due South", "Buried on Sunday"

Hartman, Phil: Actor, Comedian. "Saturday Night Live", "News Radio"

Hill, Arthur: Actor. "The Andromeda Strain", "A Bridge Too Far"

Huston, Walter: Actor. "The Treasure of the Sierra Madre" (AA), "Dodsworth", "The Devil and Daniel Webster", father of John Huston

Ireland, John: Actor. "All the King's Men", "Spartacus"

Ironside, Michael: Actor. "Scanners", "Top Gun", "Total Recall"

Levy, Eugene: Comedian, Actor. "SCTV"

Lockhart, Gene: Actor. "Abe Lincoln in Illinois", "The Devil and Daniel Webster", "His Girl Friday", "Algiers" (AAN)

McCormack, Eric: Actor. "Will & Grace", "Street Justice"

McCulloch, Bruce: Comedian. "Kids in the Hall"

McDonald, Kevin: Comedian. "Kids in the Hall"

MacDonald, Norm: Comedian, Actor: "Saturday Night Live"

McKinney, Mark: Comedian. "Kids in the Hall", "Saturday Night Live"

Mandel, Howie: Comedian, Actor. "St. Elsewhere"

Manners, David: Actor, Author. "Dracula" (1930), "The Mummy"

Massey, Raymond: Actor. "Abe Lincoln in Illinois"(AAN), "East of Eden", "The Naked and the Dead"

Moranis, Rick: Comedian, Actor. "SCTV", "Honey, I Shrunk the Kids"

Morse, Barry: Actor. "The Fugitive" (the original series), "Space 1999"

Myers, Mike: Comedian, Actor. Wayne Campbell on "Saturday Night Live"

Neville, John: Actor. "The Adventures of Baron Munchausen"

Nielsen, Leslie: Actor. "The Naked Gun", "Forbidden Planet". Brother was Deputy Prime Minister

Ontkean, Michael: Actor. "The Rookies", "Twin Peaks".

Perry, Matthew: Actor. "Friends"

Pidgeon, Walter: Actor. "How Green Was My Valley", "Forbidden Planet"

Pinsent, Gordon: Actor, Writer. "The Rowdy Man", "Who has Seen the Wind?", "John and the Missus", "Due South"

Plummer, Christopher: Actor. "The Sound of Music", "Star Trek VI"

Priestley, Jason: Actor. "Beverly Hills 90210"

Qualen, John: Actor. "Casablanca", "The Devil and Daniel Webster", "The Searchers", "Anatomy of a Murder"

Reeves, Keanu: Actor. "Johnny Mnemonic", "Speed", "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure"

Rubinek, Saul: Actor. "Unforgiven", "The Outside Chance of Maximilian Glick", "Star Trek:TNG"

Russell, Harold: Actor, Soldier. received two Academy Awards for role in "The Best Years of Our Lives"

Sarrazin, Michael: Actor. "They Shoot Horses Don't They?", "Joshua Then and Now"

Sennett, Mack: Director, Comedian, Actor, Producer. the Keystone Kops, "Tillie's Punctured Romance"

Shatner, William: Actor. Captain James T. Kirk on "Star Trek"

Short, Martin: Comedian, Actor. "SCTV", "Saturday Night Live", "Clifford"

Silverheels, Jay: Actor. Tonto on "The Lone Ranger", "Key Largo"

Sutherland, Donald: Actor. "M A S H", "Klute", "Ordinary People", "Eye of the Needle", "Bethune"

Sutherland, Kiefer: Actor, Director. "The Bay Boy", "Stand By Me", "A Few Good Men"

Thicke, Alan: Actor. "Hope and Gloria"

Thomas, Dave: Comedian. "SCTV", "Strange Brew", "Grace Under Fire"

Thompson, Scott: Comedian, Actor. "Kids in the Hall"

Vernon, John: Actor. "Animal House", "Dirty Harry"

Wincott, Jeff: "Night Heat"

Wincott, Michael: "The Crow", "Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves", "1492, Conquest of Paradise"

Wiseman, Joseph: Actor. "The Apprenticeship of Duddy Kravitz", played "Dr. No"

 

Theres some more fine canadian actors....I can list more if you'd like?

[snafu]

Aykroyd, Dan: Comedian, Actor. "Saturday Night Live", "The Blues Brothers"

Bain, Conrad: Actor. "Diff'rent Strokes", "Maude".

Bairstow, Scott: Actor. "Lonesome Dove: The Series"

Bluteau, Lothaire : Actor. "Jesus of Montreal", "Black Robe"

Bochner, Lloyd: Actor. "Dynasty", "Naked Gun 2 1/2: The Smell of Fear"

Burr, Raymond: Actor. "Perry Mason", "Ironside"

Candy, John: Comedian, Actor. "SCTV"

Carrey, Jim: Comedian, Actor. "The Mask", "Ace Ventura: Pet Detective", "The Truman Show"

Carson, Jack: Actor. "Mildred Pierce", "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof"

Chaykin, Maury: Actor. "Dances with Wolves", "Whale Music", "Buried on Sunday"

Chong, Thomas: Comedian, Actor. Half of Cheech and Chong

Colicos, John: Actor. "Anne of a Thousand Days", "The Postman Always Rings Twice", played the first Klingon on "Star Trek", "Battlestar Galactica"

Cronyn, Hume: Actor. "Shadow of a Doubt", "Sunrise at Campobello", "Cocoon"

Doohan, James: Actor. Scotty on "Star Trek"

Elliott, David James: Actor. "Melrose Place", "JAG"

Foley, David: Comedian, Actor. "Kids in the Hall", "News Radio"

Ford, Glenn: Actor. "Gilda", "The Big Heat", "The Blackboard Jungle".

Fox, Michael J.: Actor. "Back to the Future", "Family Ties"

Fraser, Brendan: Actor. "Gods and Monsters", "The Mummy"

Frewer, Matt: Actor. played "Max Headroom", "Honey, I Shrunk the Kids", "Star Trek:TNG"

George, Chief Dan: Actor. "Little Big Man" (AAN), "The Outlaw Josey Wales"

Goulet, Robert: Singer, Actor. "Naked Gun 2 1/2: The Smell of Fear"

Greene, Graham: Actor. "Dances with Wolves" (AAN)

Greene, Lorne: Actor. Played Ben Cartwright on "Bonanza", "Battlestar Galactica"

Greenwood, Bruce: Actor. "Exotica", "St. Elsewhere", "Nowhere Man"

Gross, Paul: Actor. "Due South", "Buried on Sunday"

Hartman, Phil: Actor, Comedian. "Saturday Night Live", "News Radio"

Hill, Arthur: Actor. "The Andromeda Strain", "A Bridge Too Far"

Huston, Walter: Actor. "The Treasure of the Sierra Madre" (AA), "Dodsworth", "The Devil and Daniel Webster", father of John Huston

Ireland, John: Actor. "All the King's Men", "Spartacus"

Ironside, Michael: Actor. "Scanners", "Top Gun", "Total Recall"

Levy, Eugene: Comedian, Actor. "SCTV"

Lockhart, Gene: Actor. "Abe Lincoln in Illinois", "The Devil and Daniel Webster", "His Girl Friday", "Algiers" (AAN)

McCormack, Eric: Actor. "Will & Grace", "Street Justice"

McCulloch, Bruce: Comedian. "Kids in the Hall"

McDonald, Kevin: Comedian. "Kids in the Hall"

MacDonald, Norm: Comedian, Actor: "Saturday Night Live"

McKinney, Mark: Comedian. "Kids in the Hall", "Saturday Night Live"

Mandel, Howie: Comedian, Actor. "St. Elsewhere"

Manners, David: Actor, Author. "Dracula" (1930), "The Mummy"

Massey, Raymond: Actor. "Abe Lincoln in Illinois"(AAN), "East of Eden", "The Naked and the Dead"

Moranis, Rick: Comedian, Actor. "SCTV", "Honey, I Shrunk the Kids"

Morse, Barry: Actor. "The Fugitive" (the original series), "Space 1999"

Myers, Mike: Comedian, Actor. Wayne Campbell on "Saturday Night Live"

Neville, John: Actor. "The Adventures of Baron Munchausen"

Nielsen, Leslie: Actor. "The Naked Gun", "Forbidden Planet". Brother was Deputy Prime Minister

Ontkean, Michael: Actor. "The Rookies", "Twin Peaks".

Perry, Matthew: Actor. "Friends"

Pidgeon, Walter: Actor. "How Green Was My Valley", "Forbidden Planet"

Pinsent, Gordon: Actor, Writer. "The Rowdy Man", "Who has Seen the Wind?", "John and the Missus", "Due South"

Plummer, Christopher: Actor. "The Sound of Music", "Star Trek VI"

Priestley, Jason: Actor. "Beverly Hills 90210"

Qualen, John: Actor. "Casablanca", "The Devil and Daniel Webster", "The Searchers", "Anatomy of a Murder"

Reeves, Keanu: Actor. "Johnny Mnemonic", "Speed", "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure"

Rubinek, Saul: Actor. "Unforgiven", "The Outside Chance of Maximilian Glick", "Star Trek:TNG"

Russell, Harold: Actor, Soldier. received two Academy Awards for role in "The Best Years of Our Lives"

Sarrazin, Michael: Actor. "They Shoot Horses Don't They?", "Joshua Then and Now"

Sennett, Mack: Director, Comedian, Actor, Producer. the Keystone Kops, "Tillie's Punctured Romance"

Shatner, William: Actor. Captain James T. Kirk on "Star Trek"

Short, Martin: Comedian, Actor. "SCTV", "Saturday Night Live", "Clifford"

Silverheels, Jay: Actor. Tonto on "The Lone Ranger", "Key Largo"

Sutherland, Donald: Actor. "M A S H", "Klute", "Ordinary People", "Eye of the Needle", "Bethune"

Sutherland, Kiefer: Actor, Director. "The Bay Boy", "Stand By Me", "A Few Good Men"

Thicke, Alan: Actor. "Hope and Gloria"

Thomas, Dave: Comedian. "SCTV", "Strange Brew", "Grace Under Fire"

Thompson, Scott: Comedian, Actor. "Kids in the Hall"

Vernon, John: Actor. "Animal House", "Dirty Harry"

Wincott, Jeff: "Night Heat"

Wincott, Michael: "The Crow", "Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves", "1492, Conquest of Paradise"

Wiseman, Joseph: Actor. "The Apprenticeship of Duddy Kravitz", played "Dr. No"

 

Theres some more fine canadian actors....I can list more if you'd like?

 

Yeah but besides them ya got nobody.

 

Welcome aboard.

[ToriAllen]

Aykroyd, Dan: Comedian, Actor. "Saturday Night Live", "The Blues Brothers"

Bain, Conrad: Actor. "Diff'rent Strokes", "Maude".

Bairstow, Scott: Actor. "Lonesome Dove: The Series"

Bluteau, Lothaire : Actor. "Jesus of Montreal", "Black Robe"

Bochner, Lloyd: Actor. "Dynasty", "Naked Gun 2 1/2: The Smell of Fear"

Burr, Raymond: Actor. "Perry Mason", "Ironside"

Candy, John: Comedian, Actor. "SCTV"

Carrey, Jim: Comedian, Actor. "The Mask", "Ace Ventura: Pet Detective", "The Truman Show"

Carson, Jack: Actor. "Mildred Pierce", "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof"

Chaykin, Maury: Actor. "Dances with Wolves", "Whale Music", "Buried on Sunday"

Chong, Thomas: Comedian, Actor. Half of Cheech and Chong

Colicos, John: Actor. "Anne of a Thousand Days", "The Postman Always Rings Twice", played the first Klingon on "Star Trek", "Battlestar Galactica"

Cronyn, Hume: Actor. "Shadow of a Doubt", "Sunrise at Campobello", "Cocoon"

Doohan, James: Actor. Scotty on "Star Trek"

Elliott, David James: Actor. "Melrose Place", "JAG"

Foley, David: Comedian, Actor. "Kids in the Hall", "News Radio"

Ford, Glenn: Actor. "Gilda", "The Big Heat", "The Blackboard Jungle".

Fox, Michael J.: Actor. "Back to the Future", "Family Ties"

Fraser, Brendan: Actor. "Gods and Monsters", "The Mummy"

Frewer, Matt: Actor. played "Max Headroom", "Honey, I Shrunk the Kids", "Star Trek:TNG"

George, Chief Dan: Actor. "Little Big Man" (AAN), "The Outlaw Josey Wales"

Goulet, Robert: Singer, Actor. "Naked Gun 2 1/2: The Smell of Fear"

Greene, Graham: Actor. "Dances with Wolves" (AAN)

Greene, Lorne: Actor. Played Ben Cartwright on "Bonanza", "Battlestar Galactica"

Greenwood, Bruce: Actor. "Exotica", "St. Elsewhere", "Nowhere Man"

Gross, Paul: Actor. "Due South", "Buried on Sunday"

Hartman, Phil: Actor, Comedian. "Saturday Night Live", "News Radio"

Hill, Arthur: Actor. "The Andromeda Strain", "A Bridge Too Far"

Huston, Walter: Actor. "The Treasure of the Sierra Madre" (AA), "Dodsworth", "The Devil and Daniel Webster", father of John Huston

Ireland, John: Actor. "All the King's Men", "Spartacus"

Ironside, Michael: Actor. "Scanners", "Top Gun", "Total Recall"

Levy, Eugene: Comedian, Actor. "SCTV"

Lockhart, Gene: Actor. "Abe Lincoln in Illinois", "The Devil and Daniel Webster", "His Girl Friday", "Algiers" (AAN)

McCormack, Eric: Actor. "Will & Grace", "Street Justice"

McCulloch, Bruce: Comedian. "Kids in the Hall"

McDonald, Kevin: Comedian. "Kids in the Hall"

MacDonald, Norm: Comedian, Actor: "Saturday Night Live"

McKinney, Mark: Comedian. "Kids in the Hall", "Saturday Night Live"

Mandel, Howie: Comedian, Actor. "St. Elsewhere"

Manners, David: Actor, Author. "Dracula" (1930), "The Mummy"

Massey, Raymond: Actor. "Abe Lincoln in Illinois"(AAN), "East of Eden", "The Naked and the Dead"

Moranis, Rick: Comedian, Actor. "SCTV", "Honey, I Shrunk the Kids"

Morse, Barry: Actor. "The Fugitive" (the original series), "Space 1999"

Myers, Mike: Comedian, Actor. Wayne Campbell on "Saturday Night Live"

Neville, John: Actor. "The Adventures of Baron Munchausen"

Nielsen, Leslie: Actor. "The Naked Gun", "Forbidden Planet". Brother was Deputy Prime Minister

Ontkean, Michael: Actor. "The Rookies", "Twin Peaks".

Perry, Matthew: Actor. "Friends"

Pidgeon, Walter: Actor. "How Green Was My Valley", "Forbidden Planet"

Pinsent, Gordon: Actor, Writer. "The Rowdy Man", "Who has Seen the Wind?", "John and the Missus", "Due South"

Plummer, Christopher: Actor. "The Sound of Music", "Star Trek VI"

Priestley, Jason: Actor. "Beverly Hills 90210"

Qualen, John: Actor. "Casablanca", "The Devil and Daniel Webster", "The Searchers", "Anatomy of a Murder"

Reeves, Keanu: Actor. "Johnny Mnemonic", "Speed", "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure"

Rubinek, Saul: Actor. "Unforgiven", "The Outside Chance of Maximilian Glick", "Star Trek:TNG"

Russell, Harold: Actor, Soldier. received two Academy Awards for role in "The Best Years of Our Lives"

Sarrazin, Michael: Actor. "They Shoot Horses Don't They?", "Joshua Then and Now"

Sennett, Mack: Director, Comedian, Actor, Producer. the Keystone Kops, "Tillie's Punctured Romance"

Shatner, William: Actor. Captain James T. Kirk on "Star Trek"

Short, Martin: Comedian, Actor. "SCTV", "Saturday Night Live", "Clifford"

Silverheels, Jay: Actor. Tonto on "The Lone Ranger", "Key Largo"

Sutherland, Donald: Actor. "M A S H", "Klute", "Ordinary People", "Eye of the Needle", "Bethune"

Sutherland, Kiefer: Actor, Director. "The Bay Boy", "Stand By Me", "A Few Good Men"

Thicke, Alan: Actor. "Hope and Gloria"

Thomas, Dave: Comedian. "SCTV", "Strange Brew", "Grace Under Fire"

Thompson, Scott: Comedian, Actor. "Kids in the Hall"

Vernon, John: Actor. "Animal House", "Dirty Harry"

Wincott, Jeff: "Night Heat"

Wincott, Michael: "The Crow", "Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves", "1492, Conquest of Paradise"

Wiseman, Joseph: Actor. "The Apprenticeship of Duddy Kravitz", played "Dr. No"

 

Theres some more fine canadian actors....I can list more if you'd like?

 

First of all, I said good actors. Some of those people are horrible actors and some I've never even heard of.

 

Anyway, that set aside, what exactly are you using as a qualification for being considered Canadian?

 

Keanu Reeves was born in Beirut, Lebanon, then moved to New York, then to Toronto

 

Maury Chaykin was born and raised in Brooklyn, New York, and didn't move to Toronto until after college

 

Brendan Fraser was born in Indianapolis, Indiana, was raise all over the globe, then went to college in Canada

 

Matt Frewer was born in Washington, DC but raised in Canada

 

Robert Goulet was born in Lawrence, Massachusetts, and didn't move to Canada until age 14

 

Barry Morse was born in London, England and moved to Canada when he was in his 30

[hugo]

I am worried that you actually know all that stuff about actors/entertainment personalities..

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That is kind of scary.

[Foe]

Hai. this forum looks strange but ohwell, im amy. ^^

[ToriAllen]

I am worried that you actually know all that stuff about actors/entertainment personalities..

 

It took me ten minutes to look all of that stuff up. I don't know it off the top of my head.

[manicmonday]

Hai. this forum looks strange but ohwell, im amy. ^^

 

 

Another from MySpace and she bit the dust already.

[KatSkratch]

So, I got tired of a "police state" forum I was on where seconds could elapse and "whoops, there goes your post... you broke rule #10,000,001" ... and it looks like I found my way here. I take it I am actually ALLOWED to get pissed off here??

 

Well, I am pissed off! Although I am in all actuality a kind and gentle soul... really, I am

 

Anything I should know before I post? Is body armor of any kind necessarY?