Guest Unregistered Posted May 6, 2005 Posted May 6, 2005 If you arent muslim, you are according to the Quran an infidel. And as sutch every devoted faithful muslim sees you as the enemy. And now that we Quote
Master_Jaffer Posted May 6, 2005 Posted May 6, 2005 They but wish that ye should reject Faith' date=' as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks[/quote'] Yes, those who leave Islam and become athiest or associators are to be killed. But, they are given ample time to rejoin the religion, or, you don't have to kill them, you just place them outside friendship. When ye travel through the earth' date=' there is no blame on you if ye shorten your prayers, for fear the Unbelievers May attack you: For the Unbelievers are unto you open enemies. [/quote'] Well, if we look at this logically, have you noticed how people these days have a certain hatred towards Islam... so, they are OPEN ENEMIES. Kind of like our member, MRIH, he hates Islam, and he's open about it. But when the forbidden months are past' date=' then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. [/quote'] This only applies when in war against pagans. You aren't allowed to kill an innocent man... If you kill an innocent life, it is like you have killed life itself. Now, stop with the ill-translated sources. Quote Muslim, and proud of it.
Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell Posted May 6, 2005 Posted May 6, 2005 Yes, those who leave Islam and become athiest or associators are to be killed.That statement right there is enough for any level-headed person to hate islam. If the whole rest of that evil religion is full of nothing more that honey and sweetness... That one small aspect is enough for me to NEVER, EVER, EVER, NOT EVER convert!!!!!! Well, if we look at this logically, have you noticed how people these days have a certain hatred towards Islam... so, they are OPEN ENEMIES. Kind of like our member, MRIH, he hates Islam, and he's open about it.Make your prayers long or short, because I'd never attack you (physically). So now that I'm considered your enemy, are you going to (try to) kill me? But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war) This only applies when in war against pagans. You aren't allowed to kill an innocent man...It says to "fight and kill" ... if you think it is only in times of war then this here says that you are in perpetual war with the pagans! Your religion stinks! It is the religion of statan! it is the religion of war, death and carnage! and you (MJ) are proving it better than I ever did! Now, stop with the ill-translated sources.Yeah, MJ's translations are evil enough! Quote The first amendment provides our constitution with its voice. The second amendment provides its teeth.
Guest Unregistered Posted May 6, 2005 Posted May 6, 2005 Yes, those who leave Islam and become athiest or associators are to be killed. But, they are given ample time to rejoin the religion, or, you don't have to kill them, you just place them outside friendship. And you dont see anything wrong with that statement??!!??!!?? Well, if we look at this logically, have you noticed how people these days have a certain hatred towards Islam... so, they are OPEN ENEMIES. Kind of like our member, MRIH, he hates Islam, and he's open about it. I Quote
Maestro Posted May 6, 2005 Posted May 6, 2005 Seriously master jaffer... are you for real? And more importantly, are your religious beliefs for real? Is islam for real? Good thing I Quote
Master_Jaffer Posted May 6, 2005 Posted May 6, 2005 MRIH, an INNOCENT life is a life that hasn't committed a CRIME. Not being Muslim is NOT a crime, so I don't see what you're going at. Also, that does only apply to physical attacks, if you are actually threatened by someones presences. And you, Mr. Unregistered: A pagan, someone that associates with God, through the use of idols, is one of the ABSOLUTE BIGGEST POSSIBLE SINS. I see nothing wrong with that statement. You muslims feel that noone except your own are innocent, so therefore you do want everyone else dead, if you are a true believer, right?[/quote Wrong. Quote Muslim, and proud of it.
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