Another rant on homosexuality.

[Silver_dragon87]

I hear ya, Vortex. It's part of why I have so much against Catholicism. Many of my friends are at the very least bisexual, and I myself am not sure where I fall. But I could care less if they insult me, should I decide that's who I am. NO ONE insults my friends and gets away with it. Anyone who's MY friend gets a bodyguard (complimentary!) for life. And also, some of the coolest people ever are/were gay. I.e. Alexander the Great, maaaanymany fine actors and loads of other histoical figures. Hell, you posted the list yourself Kickass people who are BETTER for it, I say. And who can't adore the Fab Five? XD

[GrayGal]

I hear ya, Vortex. It's part of why I have so much against Catholicism. Many of my friends are at the very least bisexual, and I myself am not sure where I fall. But I could care less if they insult me, should I decide that's who I am. NO ONE insults my friends and gets away with it. Anyone who's MY friend gets a bodyguard (complimentary!) for life. And also, some of the coolest people ever are/were gay. I.e. Alexander the Great, maaaanymany fine actors and loads of other histoical figures. Hell, you posted the list yourself Kickass people who are BETTER for it, I say. And who can't adore the Fab Five? XD

 

 

No wonder your so angry you dont know if your gay, bi or straight....explains a lot

[tizz]

I have fucked around with girls (long ago) and loiked it, but I am totally straight. I wouldn't even onsider myself BI I just like to have fun

 

I do feel for anyone that is forced to live their life with such a stigma. It's not right.

[Mr X]

So you're saying being gay sullies someone's name. How interesting.

 

 

Um..yeah if you think of it this way SD..these "historian" were social and political commentators of the time...subject to rumours and gossip and personal political biases and probably belonged to some opinionated clique of some form or other.

 

e.g The Romans were notorious for this.

 

 

Anyways SD...you wrote as if you whole heartedly approved of this sexual pursuation...and now you admit to having bi'sexual curiosities urself hahahahahaha

 

Yes I do find you impartial.

 

 

How very interesting.

[Silver_dragon87]

Actually, if you must know, the reason I said that and feel that way is because I don't have ANY 'curiosities.' I have never been truly attracted to anyone--in body--and therefore have to honestly say that I don't know how I'll turn out. I don't feel anything for either gender, so how could I fairly label myself?

 

Oh and Tizz, some people aren't sluts. There are other things besides sex that I use to complete my life. This matter causes me no stress or anxiety whatsoever.

[TWorld PoliceA]

And just what exactly finally defeated this "war-machine" called the "Spartans"? Didnt happen to be AIDS was it? Talk about being your own worst enemy...

 

Anyway, I hate gays and dont wont them and their diseases around me, and IM NOT RELIGIOUS EITHER! Just take a good long look at Africa! Enough said.

 

BTW im new to the board.

[Silver_dragon87]

First of all, you can't blame people for not knowing something they couldn't possibly have known. For another thing, anyone can get HIV you moron. There aren't diseases specific to homosexuals--an STD is an STD, and I hope you contract several you hateful numbskull.

[hugo]

First of all, you can't blame people for not knowing something they couldn't possibly have known. For another thing, anyone can get HIV you moron. There aren't diseases specific to homosexuals--an STD is an STD, and I hope you contract several you hateful numbskull.

 

While anyone can get it the easiest way is through sharing needles are anal sex. This is why AIDS is a plague among gay males but has pretty much left lesbians alone. If God hates fags, he seems to only hate male fags.

[Silver_dragon87]

AIDs can affect everyone. It's a standard STD--anyone having any kind of sex can get it.

[GrayGal]

AIDS is NOT a standard STD...its a fucking virus you get from HIV. And standard means everyday/common...and common STDs are crabs, herpes..and such. AIDS IS NOT!

 

I admit you sometimes sound like you know what your talking about but with that little comment you sounded stupid

[hugo]

AIDs can affect everyone. It's a standard STD--anyone having any kind of sex can get it.

 

Wrong again, you cannot get AIDS when practicing beastiality (might be some small possibility with another primate). Do your homework.

[phreakwars]

Wrong again, you cannot get AIDS when practicing beastiality (might be some small possibility with another primate). Do your homework.

Says the expert.

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[hugo]

Says the expert.

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Of course my knowledge comes from my rural cousins.

[eddo]

And isn't it ironic that the people trying their damnedest to stand in the way of all this horrible LOVE are the ones who won't shut the hell up about God and Jesus. Don't you think that GOD, who loves everyone or so you try to tell me, would want its creations to GET ALONG? To not destroy each other? Don't you think that Jesus would fucking roll over in his grave or heaven or in your taco or wherever the hell you think he is if he saw you all trying your best to stop all this 'love' he was always talking about?

 

 

Ok, you bring up religion, and specifically Christianity in your orginal post. But...

 

Or maybe we could NOT keep citing religious texts and discuss the issue like intelligent creatures thinking for themselves. You know, that's always an option.

 

 

So do you really want discussion? Or do you just want people to agree with you?

[Silver_dragon87]

I was talking about people having sex with PEOPLE, Hugo. -_- Sorry for the oversight.

 

Gal, you're an idiot. I didn't mean 'everyday,' I meant that it is contracted in the STANDARD ways--standard as it the same as every other STD. It is TRANSMITTED SEXUALLY. Christ, do I have to spell everything out for you?

 

Eddo, I began the thread with a general comment about the values of the religion. After people started citing every mouldy old book they could lay hands on, I attempted to put a stop to it. That was not the point of the thread, it was just an observation. As you can see from my liberal cursing, it was more of a general thing--I intended for people to THINK about it for themselves (like 'who would Jesus bomb?') instead of turning, as ever, to their tomes and scrolls and pictograms to try to find an ANSWER. I meant for people to use their own brains. It was supposed to be a meaningful, general remark about how hypocritical it is to say 'our mascot/leader/founder/whatever loves everyone' and then have all this hatred for people who are, themselves, just trying to love other people. All I intended to do was point out how RIDICULOUS it is, not start an actual religious debate. Hopefully that explains what I see as the difference clearly.

[TWorld PoliceA]

When I talk about gays its men that I have in mind. I know AIDS isnt a problem among lesbians and I dont have a problem with them, but AIDS is a HUGE problem among gay men.

 

One of the Liberal VS Conservative fights in the Country is about gays adopting children, I dont think theres a problem with lesbians adopting children, I think they would/do probably make good parents but im not for gay men adopting children, they are in my eyes pretty much pedophiles and would probably be/are abusing their adopted boys.

[Silver_dragon87]

Wow. Just fucking wow. I'm using this title more than I care to because it loses its special status, but you're a fucktard. Christ on a crutch. AIDs is a problem for anyone who's fucking in any way; it has nothing to do with sexual orientation, asshole. Secondly, you're also a complete dumbass--if you didn't get that from your new title. Gay men are not pedophiles. What else is there to say? You're a moron.

[eddo]

Gay men are not pedophiles. What else is there to say?

 

Not to shift the subject away from your name calling, but-

 

Homosexuals Molest Children At A Far Higher Rate Than Heterosexuals

 

Homosexuals account for only 1-2% of our population based on current surveys. The National Opinion Research Center in 1992 found that 2.8% of men and 1.4% of women identified themselves as

[eddo]

and some more:

 

Dr. Judith Reisman, in her book, Kinsey, Crimes & Consequences, describes the research done by Dr. Gene Abel. This researcher compared the molestation rates of self-confessed homosexual and heterosexual child molesters. In a sample of 153 homosexual molesters, they confessed to a total of 22,981 molestations. This is equivalent to 150 children per molester. (223) self-admitted heterosexual molesters admitted to 4,435 molestations. This comes to 19.8 victims per molester. Dr. Abel concluded that homosexuals

[Vortex]

Using that is about as effective as proving straight people shouldnt adopt. Or do i need to start looking up statistics about Spousal abuse, child abuse (non sexual), Marital Rape, the divorce rate...etc

 

A pediophile is a pediophile period....An idiot is an idiot........its neverending

 

 

just because there is a higher percentage doesnt mean its everyone.....

 

But thats fine you enjoy the hypocracy of your mind, and pass on the hatred on through your children....

[eddo]

Using that is about as effective as proving straight people shouldnt adopt. Or do i need to start looking up statistics about Spousal abuse, child abuse (non sexual), Marital Rape, the divorce rate...etc

 

A pediophile is a pediophile period....An idiot is an idiot........its neverending

 

 

just because there is a higher percentage doesnt mean its everyone.....

 

But thats fine you enjoy the hypocracy of your mind, and pass on the hatred on through your children....

 

 

I didn't say it was everyone. I'm just stating quite a few statistics that show a position contrary to what was posted earlier. I'm not saying they are right, not saying they are wrong, just posting them. But if you feel the need to ignore them, then fine. Just be sure to pass that ignorace onto your kids so my kids will have someone to pick on for being stupid.

[Vortex]

I didn't say it was everyone. I'm just stating quite a few statistics that show a position contrary to what was posted earlier. I'm not saying they are right, not saying they are wrong, just posting them. But if you feel the need to ignore them, then fine. Just be sure to pass that ignorace onto your kids so my kids will have someone to pick on for being stupid.

 

 

Sorry, but the little shaved-rat-lifestealers i cannot stand. Nor will i ever have a kid (unless a freak accident happens and 2 males really can produce children)

 

 

YOu are agreeing with them however...yet you okay with lesbians......that is very hypocritical.

 

 

You cant have your cake and eat it too (well wait...you can if your a lesbian)

[eddo]

Sorry, but the little shaved-rat-lifestealers i cannot stand. Nor will i ever have a kid (unless a freak accident happens and 2 males really can produce children)

 

 

YOu are agreeing with them however...yet you okay with lesbians......that is very hypocritical.

 

 

You cant have your cake and eat it too (well wait...you can if your a lesbian)

 

 

You are doing an awful lot of assuming for a person that I don't even know. How am I ok or not ok with lesbians? How am I agreeing with anything on here? I have not made one single statement of my own opinion in regards to homosexuals on this thread at all.

[sixes]

Nope eddo they are right about you dude.You are in denile.

[Silver_dragon87]

Right on, Vortex; there's a lot more dirt on how a straight person can fuck up a child than what one or two people claim about homosexuals. Not to go all conspiracy theory here, but there is the possibility that this person is a hateful Catholic. Hands up Just saying it's possible that this research is coming straight out of someone's ass.

 

Now, it's late and I'm a bit foggy, but your own quote says that in this extremely limited study, 122/199 cases of molestation were committed by HETEROSEXUAL men. How does this prove your demented little "point?" Am I missing something? (I do, when it's late, so feel free to correct me.)

 

But again, Vortex is right. Studying pedophiles in this way doesn't make any sense; a whackjob is a whackjob and it has nothing to do with their sexual orientation. One serial killer or rapist is going to be worse than others and not as bad as some; it's a person to person comparison. These people are demented, so comparing them to sane, normal people--straight and gay--doesn't prove jack shit.