Another rant on homosexuality.

[Vortex]

When I talk about gays its men that I have in mind. I know AIDS isnt a problem among lesbians and I dont have a problem with them, but AIDS is a HUGE problem among gay men.

 

One of the Liberal VS Conservative fights in the Country is about gays adopting children, I dont think theres a problem with lesbians adopting children, I think they would/do probably make good parents but im not for gay men adopting children, they are in my eyes pretty much pedophiles and would probably be/are abusing their adopted boys.

 

 

Sorry ed....for some reason i got blinded by the above quote and somehow my memory warped it into you posted that..

 

that was my fault...

 

most of my last posts were directed To Tranny-WorldPoliceAsswipe...not really to you

 

 

 

 

 

sigh...i was even sober too!

[eddo]

Right on, Vortex; there's a lot more dirt on how a straight person can fuck up a child than what one or two people claim about homosexuals.

There should be, if heterosexuals comprise 98% of the population.

 

 

 

Now, it's late and I'm a bit foggy, but your own quote says that in this extremely limited study, 122/199 cases of molestation were committed by HETEROSEXUAL men. How does this prove your demented little "point?" Am I missing something? (I do, when it's late, so feel free to correct me.)

You are right, it was a limited study, and I found it on a very quick google search. but to reiterate the point of the study, since you missed it- (it was in bold in my earlier posts-

While they (homosexuals) comprise only 1-2% of the population, they are responsible for upwards of a third or more of all sexual molestations of children.

[eddo]

Sorry ed....for some reason i got blinded by the above quote and somehow my memory warped it into you posted that..

 

that was my fault...

 

most of my last posts were directed To Tranny-WorldPoliceAsswipe...not really to you

 

 

 

 

 

sigh...i was even sober too!

 

 

No problem.

[Vortex]

You are right, it was a limited study, and I found it on a very quick google search. but to reiterate the point of the study, since you missed it- (it was in bold in my earlier posts-

While they (homosexuals) comprise only 1-2% of the population, they are responsible for upwards of a third or more of all sexual molestations of children.

 

I believe the wording should more accurately be

 

........they are responsible for upwards of a third or more of all Reported sexual molestations of children

 

Now i have anywhere between 1-200 gay people (mostly casual aquaintences from the bar i work at (The Gay 90's) ...and used to work at in omaha (the Max). And not a one of them has ever been convicted of this crime, nor have i seen any reason why any of them would even be suspected of such a crime much less do it.

 

The closest that i have encounted is someone i worked with (who was fired btw) who always seemd to have 18 year old boyfriends (hes my age)....and that grossed me out. Hell 24 year olds i look at sideways because they seem to young for me. Anyhow, i used to tease him constantly because i thought it gross that he liked them that young. I would walk up to him and go "check out table 214 position 3....he is hot!" He would go look and it was like an actual 8 year old. He would get mad at that...but to me an 18 year old might as well be an 8 year old.

 

Thats the closest thing i heve ever heard of anyone i have come in contact with. And who knows maybe he will cross the line and get himself a 16 year old and get locked up. And it wouldnt upset me one bit. He has always creeped me out and seemed shady to me (after all someone who changes credit card slips has problems).

 

I dont think the pediophile issue matters as to what sex they are. Freaks are freaks and until there is a cure its just a very ugly nasty reality we have to live with.

[Silver_dragon87]

(sorry, I'm not sure how to put a proper quote in)

 

"While they (homosexuals) comprise only 1-2% of the population, they are responsible for upwards of a third or more of all sexual molestations of children."

 

Concluding this from a study of 199 people is plain retarded. Also, these are all people who are already fucked in the head--not normal people. Studying people like serial killers doesn't provide conclusing data about normal people. Just as it would be stupid to address me the same way as a...I don't know, a paranoid kleptomaniac. Our brains aren't the same. The average homosexual mind does NOT equal the, if it can be called such, average homosexual sexual PREDATOR's mind--just like the mind of a normal straight guy is different from that of a straight sexual predator/pedophile/rapist/whatever example floats your boat. There's something fundamentally wrong with the wiring in these guys, so you just can't compare them to normal people. You just....can't.

 

Summary: concluding this from a MINISCULE study is absurd. ALSO, even IF the pedophiles who WERE homosexual were indeed more.............predatory? active? dangerous? More of a threat than those who are heterosexual, that still wouldn't prove anything. Once a pedophile is a pedophile, it doesn't make a difference; that doesn't say shit about regular people. So saying that all homosexuals are pedophiles is moronic and, for lack of a better word, "bigoty." So get your head out of your ass, TWPA.

[angie]

THAT IS SUCH A LOAD OF CRAP.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_chil.htm

One study involved 175 male adults who had been convicted in Massachusetts of child sexual assault. They found that none of them were homosexuals; all of them would fit the description of a fixated child molester. They were sexually attracted only to children and not to other adults. 2 Another researcher studied sexually abused children seen in a hospital. Only 2 perpetrators (less than 1% of the total) were homosexuals (i.e. were attracted to same-sex adults).

 

they assume that all males who molest boys are homosexuals. This is not true; they are generally pedophiles with no sexual attraction to other adults. And many, if not most, are sexually attracted to both boys and girls.

 

Pedophiles are in a sexual orientation group all their own. They may commit "homosexual" molestation, but they are NOT sexually attracted to adults. Hetero or homosexually. It is unfair to group homosexuals in that group because it is a completely different ballpark.

 

http://www.malesurvivor.org/myths.htm

Myth #2 - Most sexual abuse of boys is perpetrated by homosexual males.

 

Pedophiles who molest boys are not expressing a homosexual orientation any more than pedophiles who molest girls are practicing heterosexual behaviors. While many child molesters have gender and/or age preferences, of those who seek out boys, the vast majority are not homosexual. They are pedophiles.

 

http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html

For example, he cited the Groth and Birnbaum (1978) study mentioned previously as evidencing a 3:2 ratio of "heterosexual" (i.e., female victim) to "homosexual" (i.e., male victim) molestations, and he noted that "54% of all the molestations in this study were performed by bisexual or homosexual practitioners" (p. 1231). However, Groth and Birnbaum reported that none of the men in their sample had an exclusively homosexual adult sexual orientation, and that none of the 22 bisexual men were more attracted to adult males than to adult females. The "54%" statistic reported by Cameron doesn't appear anywhere in the Groth and Birnbaum (1978) article, nor does Cameron explain its derivation.

 

It also is noteworthy that, although Cameron assumed that the perpetrators of male-male molestations were all homosexual, he assumed that not all male-female molestations were committed by heterosexuals. He incorporated a "bisexual correction" into his data manipulations to increase further his estimate of the risk posed to children by homosexual/bisexual men.

 

As you can see, you really need to do your research before making baseless, ignorant, false statements.

[Vortex]

Thank you Ang....

 

I laugh outloud anytime i hear gay people lumped into the following categories as to why being gay is wrong

 

A)Pedophilia

B)Murder

C)Rape

D)Bestiality

 

 

Now that is a great argument because all those can "choose" to act on doing on e of those things..

 

But, the other person/beast doesnt have that choice now do they. Lets examine further.......

 

A)The Child looks up to adults, they look to them for guidence...to help them develop into mature adults. When an adult breaks that unwritten rule and uses them as a sexual play toy the kid doenst know it is wrong. They really didnt have a choice only to think that it is right. Only to be fed the usual "dont tell...blah blah blah" bullshit. We all are pretty sure that the kid knows it could be wrong.....but a grown adult is telling them otherwise. How are they to know? The choice has been taken away

 

B) Murderer. See above....but no one wants to be murdered. Less they are in a huge amount of pain and are in the hospital and are stuck there for the rest of their miserable lives. If i have to explain further on this one i will send you to the idiot box immediately!

 

C)Rape...once again...The victim didnt choose to be sexually assaulted now did they....

 

D)Bestiality....The animal is much like a child, mentally. They work on instinct and the need to breed. When a human, outside of their species, treads that ground the animal doenst know how to respond other than instict. Arousal......BREEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDD. It goes with it. Granted they may not feel emotionally scarred by it. But it still isnt their choice. It was thrusted on them

 

 

Now back to "fags" such as myself. It is 2 conscenting adults that both want the same thing. They want the exact thing that 2 "normal" adults want. Love, happyness, sexual fufillment, security, and above all..............a lifetime partner. Fuck any of you who really truely believe otherwise. No one is really getting their choice taken away (unless it is rape of course). It is what both parties want.

 

The only choice gay people really truely have is the choice to not lie to themselves and to others. To come out and be who the fuck they truely are despite the hatred. That is the only real choice.

 

I think im spent....but i have one more comment on this

 

 

What the fuck are straight people really truely worried about? That a gay person may find them attractive? Pretty much the phrase "im straight, not interested" works in all ways to stop that. Or, are they really afraid that they will consider the offer and actually go with it? I myself have told a few women "im gay, not interested" and everything was fine. Im secure enough in my masculinity and my homosexuality to tell someone this. Why arent straight people?

 

Oh wait.......were in repressed america...sorry i forget!

[sixes]

Thank you Ang....

 

I laugh outloud anytime i hear gay people lumped into the following categories as to why being gay is wrong

 

A)Pedophilia

B)Murder

C)Rape

D)Bestiality

 

 

Now that is a great argument because all those can "choose" to act on doing on e of those things..

 

But, the other person/beast doesnt have that choice now do they. Lets examine further.......

 

A)The Child looks up to adults, they look to them for guidence...to help them develop into mature adults. When an adult breaks that unwritten rule and uses them as a sexual play toy the kid doenst know it is wrong. They really didnt have a choice only to think that it is right. Only to be fed the usual "dont tell...blah blah blah" bullshit. We all are pretty sure that the kid knows it could be wrong.....but a grown adult is telling them otherwise. How are they to know? The choice has been taken away

 

B) Murderer. See above....but no one wants to be murdered. Less they are in a huge amount of pain and are in the hospital and are stuck there for the rest of their miserable lives. If i have to explain further on this one i will send you to the idiot box immediately!

 

C)Rape...once again...The victim didnt choose to be sexually assaulted now did they....

 

D)Bestiality....The animal is much like a child, mentally. They work on instinct and the need to breed. When a human, outside of their species, treads that ground the animal doenst know how to respond other than instict. Arousal......BREEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDD. It goes with it. Granted they may not feel emotionally scarred by it. But it still isnt their choice. It was thrusted on them

 

 

Now back to "fags" such as myself. It is 2 conscenting adults that both want the same thing. They want the exact thing that 2 "normal" adults want. Love, happyness, sexual fufillment, security, and above all..............a lifetime partner. Fuck any of you who really truely believe otherwise. No one is really getting their choice taken away (unless it is rape of course). It is what both parties want.

 

The only choice gay people really truely have is the choice to not lie to themselves and to others. To come out and be who the fuck they truely are despite the hatred. That is the only real choice.

 

I think im spent....but i have one more comment on this

 

 

What the fuck are straight people really truely worried about? That a gay person may find them attractive? Pretty much the phrase "im straight, not interested" works in all ways to stop that. Or, are they really afraid that they will consider the offer and actually go with it? I myself have told a few women "im gay, not interested" and everything was fine. Im secure enough in my masculinity and my homosexuality to tell someone this. Why arent straight people?

 

Oh wait.......were in repressed america...sorry i forget!

 

Really Vortex? I guess there has been alot of gay bashing around eh? Anyway man ,Your choice is your choice. You bring up a good point. The things you have listed above can not even be compared to a gay relationship.

For one,both partners are in agrement! What the hell is wrong with that? If they are adults? Nothing! Every gay couple I've met has been in love. Enough said,eh?

[eddo]

THAT IS SUCH A LOAD OF CRAP.

 

As you can see, you really need to do your research before making baseless, ignorant, false statements.

 

I didn't make any statements. I just posted what I found during a quick google search. I did not write the stuff I presented, nor did I say I agree or disagree with it. I just said I found it, and it was contrary to what was posted earlier, which it was.

[sixes]

I didn't make any statements. I just posted what I found during a quick google search. I did not write the stuff I presented, nor did I say I agree or disagree with it. I just said I found it, and it was contrary to what was posted earlier, which it was.

 

You are an Idiot!

[eddo]

Your an Idiot!

 

that's "you're an idiot!"

 

 

idiot...

[sixes]

that's "you're an idiot!"

 

 

dumbass

Thanks for the grammer leason. I like my teachers to have an open mind. Not be afraid of women. rflmao!

Eddo, the best part of you ran down your mothers leg after your dad shot her.lmao -Oh yeah you never make a type o,ya fucktard! Oh thats right!, you are better than everyone here right GODBOY? If the bible say no,than eddo says woah!?? You 33 yr.old virgin fat sack of crap.Die! Die!

[eddo]

Die! Die!

 

 

are you threatening my life? do I need to report you to charter.com for that one?

[sixes]

are you threatening my life? do I need to report you to charter.com for that one?

^^What a PUSSY! LOOK AT THIS BITCH! ^^"Don't threaten me I'll call my mommy!" rflmao

Threats is that where we are? Like all the times you and your members told me I should have my balls cut off??? No eddo its not a threat. But it is a major hope for myself. You can call on your admin friends if you like though.I know they love you so much. haha

[eddo]

Oh yeah you never make a type o,ya fucktard!

 

 

there is a difference between a typo and the complete and utter anniliation of the English language that you perform every chance you get.

[sixes]

there is a difference between a typo and the complete and utter anniliation of the English language that you perform every chance you get.

 

Like I said eddo,If I wanted a teacher he would need an open mind. Something you could not buy if you where Bill Gates.You are a sad little man.BTW , that comment was a wonderful anniliation of the English language yourself.Why don't you use your fine English to get laid? Is that not working for you?

[Outlaw2747]

Y'all might consider reading the rules concerning the piss pot guys...

[sixes]

Y'all might consider reading the rules concerning the piss pot guys...

 

Sorry Outlaw,I told Phreak this would be messy.lol -It will stop on my end.

[eddo]

Sorry Outlaw,I told Phreak this would be messy.

 

 

is that before or after you promised to buy 5 memberships if he made me quit "debating" you???

[sixes]

is that before or after you promised to buy 5 memberships if he made me quit "debating" you???

 

WTFFF are you talking about? I told him I would buy 5 memberships if he did not like seeing what a tard you are. Get you facts right ,emptysack! You havn't debated me for shit. I bet your changing your huggies!

[eddo]

WTFFF are you talking about? I told him I would buy 5 memberships if he did not like seeing what a tard you are. Get you facts right ,emptysack!

 

oh my bad, you are just trying to buy off an admin. Gotcha.

[sixes]

oh my bad, you are just trying to buy off an admin. Gotcha.

 

Your just pissed its not you. Run Rabbit! << <Ok Update> 8 min. gap on every post from eddo and I. He left!

[angie]

I didn't make any statements. I just posted what I found during a quick google search. I did not write the stuff I presented, nor did I say I agree or disagree with it. I just said I found it, and it was contrary to what was posted earlier, which it was.

 

Well, why post 'scientific evidence' that you DISAGREE with?

And usually when someone posts something like that it is usually because they are in agreement with the point that the article makes.

Nonetheless, you still should have done better research on the topic. You know, read MORE THAN ONE SITE about it. It is pretty well known that people that spew that kind of hateful garbage are head cases using 'science' as propeganda for their cause.

[hugo]

The problem with this study is it assumes that gay and straight males are equally likely to choose a career in teaching. This may not be the case. From my school days it seemed like a significant percentage of male teachers were a bit on the femininine side. Teaching could be like a hair stylist a profession more attractive to gay males.

[tizz]

The problem with this study is it assumes that gay and straight males are equally likely to choose a career in teaching. This may not be the case. From my school days it seemed like a significant percentage of male teachers were a bit on the femininine side. Teaching could be like a hair stylist a profession more attractive to gay males.

 

Funny, of all my male teachers in life only one was gay. Of all the male teachers I have known, three were gay, that's about %1. Originally ALL teachers were male in this country. It wasn't until the mid 1800's that it became a proffession of women