London calling.

[ALLAH IS GREAT]

'For instance, last night I saw some footage from an Islamic street protest on the streets of London from a couple of weeks ago. It looked like a scene from Palastine. They were chanting "Death to Bush, Death to Blair, Death to America".'

 

Jhony this is bullshit!If this happened it would be splashed on all british papers and news.And If they chanting this in the open streets they would have definately been attacked or arrested.And if any Islamic/any other protest is taking place they always put flyers everywhere to get people to join in.

[tizz]

How do you differenciate between who practices 'good' Islam and 'bad' Islam?

 

You can't until its to late. So what to do? As oppossed to blind anihilation I would think some very strict international laws should be passed on the merit of war crimes. Free speech would be knocked down a peg ar two but I think we all realize the only way to combat terrorism is to sacrifice some freedom for security.

For instance, last night I saw some footage from an Islamic street protest on the streets of London from a couple of weeks ago. It looked like a scene from Palastine. They were chanting "Death to Bush, Death to Blair, Death to America". Which, in my eyes, was direct support of terrorist. This should become illegal. Anyone caught supporting terrorism in any way whatsoever should be imprisoned and subject to unusual and harsh penalties.

We can't just 'round em up' so to speak. It goes against humanity to put to death and imprison people because of their culture. As I mentioned in another thread, my ex-girlfriends dad is a full blooded muslim. However he is a normal, good hearted American that would never utter a word of support for terrorism.

Any association with Al Quada or any known terrorist cell must become subject to discriminatory and heavy conseqeunce. I have heard alot about 'Al Quada in London'. What you don't hear about is 'Al Quada in America'. Do you think there is'nt a quite cell of Al Quada in America? There was just 4 years ago and look at what happened.

 

 

OK first off, free speech is not international by any means. Second, how do you differentiate between good christianity and bad? And I think occupation by US forces is punishment enough for links or supposed links to terrorism don't you? You also cannot be "full blooded muslim" or any other religion. religion is not a nationality and not in your blood or else I would be a half blood catholic and a half blood episcopalian, and I am not even christian. And what do you mean no Al quida in america, they have like half a dozen mini cells in Jersey alone (why they would CHOOSE a place that smells this bad is beyond me but they do) What you need to start doing is reading history written by someone other than the US and someone other than the winner and you have to considering a few of the terms you are using like "full blooded muslim" I agree it sucks to see people wish death on anyone, but I can totally understand the opposition to the "americanization" of the world. I mean come on, if we took over the world we would have the place drained of morals, and natural resources within one generation. A few might take it to the extreme with "death to america" but can you hinestly say you can't see it from their viewpoint just a little bit?

[Jhony5]

I'm sure that not all muslims condone this shit...........Maybe they should start to condemn it.

 

Many do. However not as a group. There seems to be a lack of solidarity amungst the peaceful practitioners of Islam.

 

What is scary is there are whole countries that have a 'terrorist' mentality. And as a whole country nuclear technology does come into play. Imagine Achmed with a suitcse full of plutonium.

[Jhony5]

"Full blooded muslim".

 

I was referring to 'culturaly' full blooded not racialy. It wasn't meant to be taken literaly. If you are a 'full blooded' Turk, then you are most likely muslim.

 

How do you diferenciate between 'good' chritianity and 'bad'.

 

 

I don't. As I have said before, religion is poisonous to the human psyche.

I do diferenciate between Xtianity and Islam, however. Xtians are not waging war against western culture. As I am myself A member of western culture, I take great offence to that.

 

If we took over the world we would have the place drained of morals....

 

You need to read up a little yourself. Look around, sweetheart. Where are the morals in Iraq? How about Iran. China perhaps, no. Oh I know, Saudi Arabia, thats the morals capitol of the world, right.

Step back and take a look around and you'll see that American morals are pretty well in check as compared to the global standard.

[ALLAH IS GREAT]

'Xtians are not waging war against western culture.'

 

No ofcourse not,they are waging war on EASTERN CULTURE,which is obviously ''acceptable''.

 

'You need to read up a little yourself. Look around, sweetheart. Where are the morals in Iraq? How about Iran. China perhaps, no. Oh I know, Saudi Arabia, thats the morals capitol of the world, right.

Step back and take a look around and you'll see that American morals are pretty well in check as compared to the global standard.'

 

I agree that some of the morals of these countries are unacceptable,but you cannot say that america is any better than they are.

[ALLAH IS GREAT]

'Fuck Iran

Fuck Bin Laden

Fuck Terrorists

Fuck Al Sadr

Fuck Al Zarqawi

AND FUCK ISLAM IN THE ASS SIDEWAYS WITH SPIKED CLUB!!!!'

My dear,there is another thread called,''the official wpyo fuck list''!

[Jhony5]

'For instance, last night I saw some footage from an Islamic street protest on the streets of London from a couple of weeks ago. It looked like a scene from Palastine. They were chanting "Death to Bush, Death to Blair, Death to America".'

 

Jhony this is bullshit!If this happened it would be splashed on all british papers and news.And If they chanting this in the open streets they would have definately been attacked or arrested.And if any Islamic/any other protest is taking place they always put flyers everywhere to get people to join in.

 

 

I do not speak about what I have not seen.

http://www.cnsnews.com//ViewForeignBureaus.asp?Page=\ForeignBureaus\archive\200507\FOR20050708b.html

 

And you live here and don't see this happening.

Ignorance is bliss.

[ALLAH IS GREAT]

NO,I didn't see this happening,coz it didn't take place.

And I've never heard of CNS NEWS.

You believe everything written here,even though the bastard who wrote it starts with the title:''London a Longtime Haven for Radical Muslim Figures''!

If it's not obvious to you that this is an anti-islamic article,then you are the ignorant one!

[Jhony5]

NO,I didn't see this happening,coz it didn't take place.

And I've never heard of CNS NEWS.

You believe everything written here,even though the bastard who wrote it starts with the title:''London a Longtime Haven for Radical Muslim Figures''!

If it's not obvious to you that this is an anti-islamic article,then you are the ignorant one!

 

 

How can you dispute this. Do you put your fingers in your ears and say "nahnahnahnahnah" when people are saying what you don't want to belive. Do a search on it yourself and see. I've seen these radical protests on CNN and every other news outlet out here. London is a center for their opperations as evidenced by the bombings.

 

I don't see how you can deny this. Its fact. Is this an anti-Islamic article because it speaks ill of terrorist demonstrations? Are they bias just because they counter your assertion?

This is exactly what I meant when I said muslims condemn terroism then they downplay it while making excuses. This is why the scope of hatred is widening to such perportions. Muslims must first escape their denial then move on to snuff out the terrorist threat that lives and breaths inside their own community. This is why westerners are losing trust in the 'peaceful' Islamic people.

[ALLAH IS GREAT]

How can you dispute this. Do you put your fingers in your ears and say "nahnahnahnahnah" when people are saying what you don't want to belive. Do a search on it yourself and see. I've seen these radical protests on CNN and every other news outlet out here. London is a center for their opperations as evidenced by the bombings.

 

I don't see how you can deny this. Its fact. Is this an anti-Islamic article because it speaks ill of terrorist demonstrations? Are they bias just because they counter your assertion?

This is exactly what I meant when I said muslims condemn terroism then they downplay it while making excuses. This is why the scope of hatred is widening to such perportions. Muslims must first escape their denial then move on to snuff out the terrorist threat that lives and breaths inside their own community. This is why westerners are losing trust in the 'peaceful' Islamic people.

 

Then why the fuck has this news not been on London news?You said this happened just a few weeks back,then why the hell has it not been mentioned on any newspapers or news in britain?If this happened on the streets of London,we would definately have known about it!!

You people always assume things,which lead to wars and hatred.You assume that you are perfect,that it's muslims and easterners that need to change.

What happened to your flaws???It's you who shove fingers in your ears and wont hear anything.

You see how easily you people change.As soon as the news of the London bombings came in,you all attacked me and don't you say it wasn't because I'm a muslim.that's OK,coz I was bloody expecting it.

As soon as the bombs went off,before any investigation,blair said it was an Islamic group,and how did he know this?from a website!!!

 

Do you know they found an ''eye witness'',who said he saw the bomber?

When asked how did he look?He said,''He was a muslim!'' No other discription given just,''He was a muslim''.

 

I know that people hate my religion,but I know in my heart that there are more who Love Islam,and nothing you do or say will change that.

[Jhony5]

Then why the fuck has this news not been on London news?You said this happened just a few weeks back,then why the hell has it not been mentioned on any newspapers or news in britain?If this happened on the streets of London,we would definately have known about it!!

You people always assume things,which lead to wars and hatred.You assume that you are perfect,that it's muslims and easterners that need to change.

What happened to your flaws???It's you who shove fingers in your ears and wont hear anything.

You see how easily you people change.As soon as the news of the London bombings came in,you all attacked me and don't you say it wasn't because I'm a muslim.that's OK,coz I was bloody expecting it.

As soon as the bombs went off,before any investigation,blair said it was an Islamic group,and how did he know this?from a website!!!

 

Do you know they found an ''eye witness'',who said he saw the bomber?

When asked how did he look?He said,''He was a muslim!'' No other discription given just,''He was a muslim''.

 

I know that people hate my religion,but I know in my heart that there are more who Love Islam,and nothing you do or say will change that.

 

 

I can't answer your question as to why its not on the news there. It is here. Dateline NBC did a report on certain Islamic clerics who lead demonstrations in europe. Europe has had a high tolerance level for this.

 

My question is why are you denying the open presence of radical Islam in london? WHY?

I'm not offering this as proof that Islam is evil. I'm not trying to piss on your religion because of it. I am just asserting fact. And the fact is that Radical Islam speaks with an open voice right there in your backyard and yet you deny it. Maybe you really don't know about it, but thats no excuse for your denial.

 

Do you know they found an "eyewitness", who said he saw the bomber? When askedhow did he look? He said,"He was muslim".

 

What was he supposed to say. "Uh, he had a really good tan and he had dark hair and dark eyes. He looked Mexican".

The process of elimination would probably lead any sound minded individual to that conclusion. Be for real AIG. Its not exactly a quantum leap for one to make that assertion.

 

You people always assume things, which lead to wars and hatred..

 

Again. I assume nothing. Which is why I don't believe in religion. Religion is built entirely on assumption. To assume is to arrive at a conclusion without considering fact. The fact is, Europe has allowed demonstrations of this natue to go on without check.

And what do you mean "you people"? That is the kind of sweeping generlisation that "leads to wars and hatred". So I guess your the 'pot' and i'm the 'kettle', right?

Of all the people on GF, I have taken steps to try and seperate the different views of Islam. I have stated several times that there are millions of good hearted muslims in the world. But yet you still choose to lump me in with all the 'American pigs". Why is your hatred different then any other form of hate?

[Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell]

Come'on mods... throw the bitch-idiot AIG into the idiot-box already!

[ALLAH IS GREAT]

'Of all the people on GF, I have taken steps to try and seperate the different views of Islam. I have stated several times that there are millions of good hearted muslims in the world. But yet you still choose to lump me in with all the 'American pigs". Why is your hatred different then any other form of hate?'

No Jhony.Crazy Wumbat is the only member that stuck to what he thought.

I lump you with them today,coz you also attacked me because of the london bombings,and you can't deny the fact that you believe a muslim is responsible for it and I was the closest muslim you people could attack and by this you forgot that there are good hearted muslims in the world,by attacking me for something that I didn't commit.

 

And MRIH,I won't bother putting you on my ignore list,I can do it all on my own.

[Jhony5]

'Of all the people on GF, I have taken steps to try and seperate the different views of Islam. I have stated several times that there are millions of good hearted muslims in the world. But yet you still choose to lump me in with all the 'American pigs". Why is your hatred different then any other form of hate?'

 

No Jhony.Crazy Wumbat is the only member that stuck to what he thought.

I lump you with them today,coz you also attacked me because of the london bombings,and you can't deny the fact that you believe a muslim is responsible for it and I was the closest muslim you people could attack and by this you forgot that there are good hearted muslims in the world,by attacking me for something that I didn't commit.

 

And MRIH,I won't bother putting you on my ignore list,I can do it all on my own.

 

 

I do not believe I attacked you at all. All I did was attack Islams apparent tolerance for the violent radical wing that is attached to it.

If I did say anything to personaly attack you please point it out. If i did then I am sorry for it.

[ALLAH IS GREAT]

'All I did was attack Islams apparent tolerance for the violent radical wing that is attached to it.'

What tolelarance??Islam is against these crimes and innocent people being killed.

I believe the muslim council condemned these acts,what else can we do?

You are still putting Islam and these criminals in the same catagory.

I'm screaming and shouting the same thing as are all the good muslims in the world,''ISLAM HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS''.It is men who have nothing else to do but murder innocent people and use Islam as a cushion for any retaliation.

 

Jhony,there is no violent radical wing attached to Islam,it is attached to all murderers of all cultures.

[Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell]

I believe the muslim council condemned these acts,what else can we do?

You believe??? Why don't you know? Why aren't you fuckers crawling out of the wood work screaming for vengence with the rest of the world? Why aren't you distancing yourselves from these acts? Why does Al-Queda continue to receive heavy support from islamic nations?

 

You are still putting Islam and these criminals in the same catagory.

I'm screaming and shouting the same thing as are all the good muslims in the world,''ISLAM HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS''.

Comeon AIG... say it once! Please, Please, Please say that "Al-Queda is evil and does not represent islam" It will go a LOOOOOOONG way with me.

 

It is men who have nothing else to do but murder innocent people and use Islam as a cushion to any retaliation.

It is most definitely Al-Queda (the militant arm of the islamic scourge)

 

Jhony,there is no violent radical wing attached to Islam,it is attached to all murderers of all cultures.

What the fuck is Al-Queda, Hamas, islamic jihad, Taliban, etc, etc, etc.

[Jhony5]

'All I did was attack Islams apparent tolerance for the violent radical wing that is attached to it.'

 

What tolelarance??Islam is against these crimes and innocent people being killed.

I believe the muslim council condemned these acts,what else can we do?

You are still putting Islam and these criminals in the same catagory.

I'm screaming and shouting the same thing as are all the good muslims in the world,''ISLAM HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS''.It is men who have nothing else to do but murder innocent people and use Islam as a cushion to any retaliation.

 

Jhony,there is no violent radical wing attached to Islam,it is attached to all murderers of all cultures.

 

 

Actions speak louder than words, my dear. I have done alot of research on this I all i'm seeing is 'words'. Maybe you could help by providing some evidence that Islam is 'actively' pushing this seedy underbelly out into the open. There is a reason why it is so hard to find these terrorist. That reason is because they hide amungst the people of Islam. They are imbeded deep into the culture as a whole.

Again, you seem to downplay the prevailence of violence in the Islamic culture. Violence is a great part of American culture as well. The difference is America takes to the streets to root out criminals who attach themselves to our culture. We have hotlines to utilize in order turn in criminals who threaten us. Help me to understand that Islam actively takes action to get the terrorist out and apart from their culture, please.

[ALLAH IS GREAT]

Actions speak louder than words, my dear. I have done alot of research on this I all i'm seeing is 'words'. Maybe you could help by providing some evidence that Islam is 'actively' pushing this seedy underbelly out into the open. There is a reason why it is so hard to find these terrorist. That reason is because they hide amungst the people of Islam. They are imbeded deep into the culture as a whole.

Again, you seem to downplay the prevailence of violence in the Islamic culture. Violence is a great part of American culture as well. The difference is America takes to the streets to root out criminals who attach themselves to our culture. We have hotlines to utilize in order turn in criminals who threaten us. Help me to understand that Islam actively takes action to get the terrorist out and apart from their culture, please.

 

Jhony,it would be easier to debate with you if you understood the true teachings of Islam.You need to understand that these so-called muslims have forgotten Islam and it's true meaning.You need to also understand that no one can be 100% sure of the people commiting these crimes.

The media is feeding you with assumpsions and you are swallowing big time.

You may find me weird for denying that muslims were behind these crimes.I do this because I don't regard them as being muslims because they have forsaken all that is human and what Islam teaches.

Muslims are dying too,aren't they also part of humanity?Don't we also have the right to believe what we choose to believe?

By saying that Islam needs to be ''changed'' or ''iradicated'',you take away that right andthe only way to achieve this is if you murder each and every muslim.

 

Tell me people,if it was said that a christian group was doing all these acts of crime, would all christians be put to trial(innocent included)??I DOUBT IT!!!

[tizz]

I was referring to 'culturaly' full blooded not racialy. It wasn't meant to be taken literaly. If you are a 'full blooded' Turk, then you are most likely muslim.

 

 

 

 

I don't. As I have said before, religion is poisonous to the human psyche.

I do diferenciate between Xtianity and Islam, however. Xtians are not waging war against western culture. As I am myself A member of western culture, I take great offence to that.

 

 

 

You need to read up a little yourself. Look around, sweetheart. Where are the morals in Iraq? How about Iran. China perhaps, no. Oh I know, Saudi Arabia, thats the morals capitol of the world, right.

Step back and take a look around and you'll see that American morals are pretty well in check as compared to the global standard.

 

 

OK but you have to be one of the most culturally ignorant folk I have come across. I happen to know a few turks myself that are not muslim. There is also no culturally muslim people IT IS A RELIGION THAT HAPPENS TO BE A PART OF CERTAIN CULTURES AND CERTAIN NATIONS!!! And as for morals in other countries, hell most have more morals than the us especially family morals. You are simply comparing them to what YOU find acceptable in YOUR culture. SUre not all pieces of cultures are interchangable, but most work in their own geographical place. To assum that other countries and cultures have little or no morals because they do not mirror those of teh west is just fucking ignorant. Stop and for teh first time in your life consider that reality is based on perpesctive and everyone's is defferent. THen actually attempt to see and accept someone else's perspective and you might just gain an ounce of intelligence. Christians are waging their own war BTW. Only their war is flying under teh radar and it is a war to gain global power just like every other religion. Only they are doing it with money and back room deals intead of bombs and guns. Don't fool yourself into believing anything else.

[phreakwars]

Come'on mods... throw the bitch-idiot AIG into the idiot-box already!

 

You need a 10 member vote to toss her in MRIH, do you want a Poll ?

 

If the vote doesn't go your way, it will be YOU in the box for a week.

 

Your other alternative is to get a PREMIUM to have me do it.

 

(By PVT MSG please so as not to reveal WHICH premium requested it).

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[Msixty]

You need a 10 member vote to toss her in

 

 

if she doesn't start opening her mind to possibilities outside her religion ill give a vote

[berniec]

AIG tells that she/he lives in LONDON,so i wonder what the response would be if one of his/her family was one of the casualities in this fucking terrorist atrosity. Come on you fucking twofaced muslim fifth collumnists,you live in a western culture with all the benifits of such,so why dont you come out and publically declare your hatred of these islamic pig murderers instead of saying ...bad boys... s****** ..s****** ...naughty...clap.clap

[Mad Dog]

All the muslims that i've talked to in the past have never said anything bad about Al-Qeada, when i would bring them up. Some would even say they agree with Bin Ladan....

[Jackie Brown]

You guys are hilarious! The attrocities in my capital city were horrific, thought of and carried out by monsters, but to simply call all Muslims terrorists is pretty childish and a tad moronic. There are fundamentalists in every religion, look at Hitler, he was a Catholic, he murdered millions of Jews, does that make all of us Nazis? America murders hundreds of innocent people every year. There are bombers in every religion, its their mindset, these people are individuals, they don't do it cause they are Islamic, they do ti because they want to. Islam is not a violent religion, there are just a few disgruntled Arabs out there who are more talked about and noticed than the rest. I don't tar all Americans as being idiots just because half of you voted for that retard Bush.

 

Time to get your heads out of the sand, is attacking Middle Eastern countries gonna make their people think, hey yeah actually America are the good guys, we'll leave them alone. Like fuck it will. Time for a rethink on your foreign policy.

 

Declare war on Islam..... haha, you guys have NO IDEA.

[Mad Dog]

Time to get your heads out of the sand, is attacking Middle Eastern countries gonna make their people think, hey yeah actually America are the good guys, we'll leave them alone. Like fuck it will. Time for a rethink on your foreign policy.

 

You are so full of shit JB! Your the one that needs to pull your head out of the sand and your ass.