London calling.

[builder]

All the muslims that i've talked to in the past have never said anything bad about Al-Qeada, when i would bring them up. Some would even say they agree with Bin Ladan....

 

 

You sing the same tune. Boring fucking same old shit, Mad dog.

 

When you talk to pro Bush buddies, do they mention the littany of lies and deception? Or do they dwell on topics like national pride, and fuck the retards that don't comply with our ideals?

[Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell]

You sing the same tune. Boring fucking same old shit, Mad dog.

Truth is usually more dull than lies, builder... just because it is "boring" does not make it any less true... please grow a brain!

[builder]

Truth is usually more dull than lies, builder... just because it is "boring" does not make it any less true... please grow a brain!

 

Did you bother to read the post, dickhead? Grow your own brain. I was born with mine.

[Crazywumbat]

AIG tells that she/he lives in LONDON,so i wonder what the response would be if one of his/her family was one of the casualities in this fucking terrorist atrosity. Come on you fucking twofaced muslim fifth collumnists,you live in a western culture with all the benifits of such,so why dont you come out and publically declare your hatred of these islamic pig murderers instead of saying ...bad boys... s****** ..s****** ...naughty...clap.clap

 

Ever think because they do, you just are to busy circle jerking to shooting terrorists to hear it?

[Crazywumbat]

For instance, last night I saw some footage from an Islamic street protest on the streets of London from a couple of weeks ago. It looked like a scene from Palastine. They were chanting "Death to Bush, Death to Blair, Death to America". Which, in my eyes, was direct support of terrorist. This should become illegal. Anyone caught supporting terrorism in any way whatsoever should be imprisoned and subject to unusual and harsh penalties.

We can't just 'round em up' so to speak. It goes against humanity to put to death and imprison people because of their culture. As I mentioned in another thread, my ex-girlfriends dad is a full blooded muslim. However he is a normal, good hearted American that would never utter a word of support for terrorism.

 

When you sacrifice the thing you are trying to protect, the fight becomes pointless. No matter how fucked up you think it is, these people are still entitled to their opinions.

 

I think it's also quite funny how you people define terrorism. You refuse to put anything into context and do yourself a great injustice in doing so. For example, many of those righteous, self-less, honorable soldiers that fought to gain this countries independence would have been considered TERRORISTS by the British they were fighting against. Terrorism, like most other things, is subject to whose eyes it is, ones terrorist is anothers freedom fighter. Why is it that you support and condone terrorism when it aides your cause, but hypocritically condemn it when the tabels are turned?

 

To defeat any kind of enemy, you first have to take the time to understand them. Unfortunately most of you refuse to do this, and until you learn to shit like thes attacks will continue to happen.

[tizz]

We WERE the indurgents once, and that led to creating our nation. It is true that we must be willing to accept our own actions byond simple and misguided justifications. Even strategic fire used to put out fire can easily burn out of control. We need to start opening our minds and thinking out of the box if humans are ever going to live without trying to blow eachother up.

[ALLAH IS GREAT]

OK but you have to be one of the most culturally ignorant folk I have come across. I happen to know a few turks myself that are not muslim. There is also no culturally muslim people IT IS A RELIGION THAT HAPPENS TO BE A PART OF CERTAIN CULTURES AND CERTAIN NATIONS!!! And as for morals in other countries, hell most have more morals than the us especially family morals. You are simply comparing them to what YOU find acceptable in YOUR culture. SUre not all pieces of cultures are interchangable, but most work in their own geographical place. To assum that other countries and cultures have little or no morals because they do not mirror those of teh west is just fucking ignorant. Stop and for teh first time in your life consider that reality is based on perpesctive and everyone's is defferent. THen actually attempt to see and accept someone else's perspective and you might just gain an ounce of intelligence. Christians are waging their own war BTW. Only their war is flying under teh radar and it is a war to gain global power just like every other religion. Only they are doing it with money and back room deals intead of bombs and guns. Don't fool yourself into believing anything else.

 

Why they put you in the idiot box puzzles me!

[ALLAH IS GREAT]

AIG tells that she/he lives in LONDON,so i wonder what the response would be if one of his/her family was one of the casualities in this fucking terrorist atrosity. Come on you fucking twofaced muslim fifth collumnists,you live in a western culture with all the benifits of such,so why dont you come out and publically declare your hatred of these islamic pig murderers instead of saying ...bad boys... s****** ..s****** ...naughty...clap.clap

 

And are you trying to say my response to these attacks are good??

It doesn't have to be my family that died,for me to feel saddened by the deaths of innocent people.

I'm not the one who calls their soldiers ''heroes'' coz they dropped some missles on innocent peoples homes.

You call the american soldiers ''heroes'' coz they've destroyed millions of peoples homes and lives.How can you call other people terrorists and barberic,when you yourselves do the same acts that you condemn?

[tizz]

Why they put you in the idiot box puzzles me!

 

 

I went in the box 'cause I'M A WHORE!!! LOL

[ALLAH IS GREAT]

I went in the box 'cause I'M A WHORE!!! LOL

 

oops my bad.you deserved it.

[phreakwars]

How can you call other people terrorists and barbaric, when you yourselves do the same acts that you condemn?

 

This is because when its done by the allied forces, it is viewed by a majority as a just cause of action...WAR IS HELL, nobody said getting a bomb dropped on someone would have flowers exploding from it instead of fire and brimstone.

 

The terrorist acts are condemned because the reasoning is viewed as wrong... but then you need to step back and ask what those reasoning's to strap a bomb on oneself are. or reasons to take a civilian life because there "COUNTRY" wants to eradicate another sect of Muslims from the earth.

 

The message is CLEARLY SENT as to what is demanded before action is taken, then strikes are done against those who do not comply... its not like one can move in on a group with some AK-47's and say... OK, JUST YOU COME OUT AND FIGHT, LEAVE YOUR WIVES AND CHILDREN IN and expect this to happen. It just won't, instead you see them taking shelter in Mosques, since they know it is a holy place and will be view by other Muslims as blasphemy if fired upon, they hide there faces with burkas and such which proves they are cowards afraid to face an enemy head on. There attacks are indirect and unanounced (unless its a fucking beheading video). So really, there isn't much choice but to take them out on a MASS SCALE with bombs and such being dropped on where they are suspected of being. There is no way for allied forces to know for an EXACT who the enemy is. If innocent Muslims are killed, it is simply the price they pay for allowing the rogue Muslim to hide themselves amongst them without exterminating them themselves.

 

If innocent Muslim lives are to be spared, it will take MUSLIMS to seperate themselves from the extremist so that the fire fight is more focused.

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[ALLAH IS GREAT]

'So really, there isn't much choice but to take them out on a MASS SCALE with bombs and such being dropped on where they are suspected of being. There is no way for allied forces to know for an EXACT who the enemy is. If innocent Muslims are killed, it is simply the price they pay for allowing the rogue Muslim to hide themselves amongst them without exterminating them themselves.'

What the hell do you mean there isn't much choice?What the.... :confused:

How can you say it's OK to bomb many innocent people because a couple of them are criminals.

I thought the law views killing an innocent person is murder,no matter what circumbstance it may be in!

 

And when you said:

'If innocent Muslims are killed, it is simply the price they pay for allowing the rogue Muslim to hide themselves amongst them without exterminating them themselves.'

You are saying they deserve to die.I think death is the biggest price to pay.I don't think any of us have the right to say someone deserves to die.

WHAT THE FUCK??Sorry I feel sick after reading this.

[tizz]

I consider it a pretty good trick considering the last time I got any LMAO

[phreakwars]

And when you said:

You are saying they deserve to die.I think death is the biggest price to pay.I don't think any of us have the right to say someone deserves to die.

WHAT THE FUCK??Sorry I feel sick after reading this.

 

Don't misinterpret what I said, I did not say they deserve to die, I am merely saying if they do not take it upon themselves to eradicate the scum in there neighborhood, then someone else will on a grander scale, when the innocent are killed along side the guilty, the casualties are just part of not taking there own actions in the first place to avoid such a scenario. It like if I was the only one on the block in my neighborhood who WASN'T a terrorist, and a bunch of others were... do I leave my home to let the terrorists be eliminated, or do I stay because of pride ??

 

Nope... heres what MY ASS DOES..... I POINT OUT to the army WHO these guys are, and stand back out of the way of the crossfire until my neighborhood is free of these people, or I get a weapon and help in the elimination. Then I happily return to my home knowing they are gone, and my block of the neighborhood is now safe and NOT under a radical control of belief from my ideals.

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[Crazywumbat]

I don't think any of us have the right to say someone deserves to die.WHAT THE FUCK??Sorry I feel sick after reading this.

 

I agree 100%.

 

Gonna quote a movie here:

 

"Just because there isn't a God doesn't mean you can take his place."

 

I feel anger towards many people. I dislike most religious persons in general, as well as conservatives. But nomatter how much hatred I feel, I would NEVER advocate the killing of innocents. Perhaps you feel ok with lowering yourselves to standards that even these terrorists are above, but I for one find it extraordinarily scary some of you would even consider extreme measures such as this.

[ALLAH IS GREAT]

Don't misinterpret what I said, I did not say they deserve to die, I am merely saying if they do not take it upon themselves to eradicate the scum in there neighborhood, then someone else will on a grander scale, when the innocent are killed along side the guilty, the casualties are just part of not taking there own actions in the first place to avoid such a scenario. It like if I was the only one on the block in my neighborhood who WASN'T a terrorist, and a bunch of others were... do I leave my home to let the terrorists be eliminated, or do I stay because of pride ??

 

Nope... heres what MY ASS DOES..... I POINT OUT to the army WHO these guys are, and stand back out of the way of the crossfire until my neighborhood is free of these people, or I get a weapon and help in the elimination. Then I happily return to my home knowing they are gone, and my block of the neighborhood is now safe and NOT under a radical control of belief from my ideals.

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Ok then,let's imagine being in this scenario.

I'm praying in a mosque,unarmed,and a group of armed criminals(they're dangerous)storm into the mosque.So suddenly like superman,I fly out and go warn the army???Or like a magician I sort of cast a spell which drops a weapon into my hands???If this was possible then I'd definately be kickin' some criminal ass!!

Think phreak!If some armed bastards,ran into your territory while unarmed,you would sit down and be quite like the good boy you are.

 

Then the army descides to throw a bomb into the mosque killing me and the criminals,but HEY I DESERVED IT,for not fighting the criminals,right??

Is this your mentality phreak?

[phreakwars]

Ok then,let's imagine being in this scenario.

I'm praying in a mosque,unarmed,and a group of armed criminals(they're dangerous)storm into the mosque.So suddenly like superman,I fly out and go warn the army???Or like a magician I sort of cast a spell which drops a weapon into my hands???If this was possible then I'd definately be kickin' some criminal ass!!

Think phreak!If some armed bastards,ran into your territory while unarmed,you would sit down and be quite like the good boy you are.

 

Then the army descides to throw a bomb into the mosque killing me and the criminals,but HEY I DESERVED IT,for not fighting the criminals,right??

Is this your mentality phreak?

 

Thank you for EXACTALLY pinpointing the problem "AIG", but back up a second and read what you just said. I'll quote it again.

 

I'm praying in a mosque,unarmed,and a group of armed criminals(they're dangerous)storm into the mosque.

Right there... I'm saying Islam should DEFEND ITSELF from such invasion of the extremist idealism into there culture. Islam needs to be the ones who step forward to turn its religion into what it stands for by standing up against those extremist who are terrorizing not American or allied troops, but the ones who are terrorising the people of ISLAM. If people are so God damned convinced that anybody who tries to leave Islam must be killed, then I say... hell why not prove them right, go after these fucking extremist fucks YOURSELVES and do it for the defense of what Islam REALLY IS.

 

This is the fucking problem now AIG, O.K., I'll fucking lay it out for you.

 

America, and Britan and other allied nations are FULLY AWARE that it is an extremist group and not just Islam. But when ISLAM does not show as much of an effort... OR MORE... to expunging this cockaroach version of Islam from the EARTH, THEN ISLAM is in effect HURTING ITSELF in the long run by turning the point of view from being a EXTREMIST led issue, to a fucking ISLAM issue... By not acting out against these assholes you are letting them win... Not win a war on terrorism, but your letting them win in the sense that they get what they are looking for... PEOPLE TO HATE ISLAM EVEN MORE... And this in turn creates a higher insurgency when this HATRED is translated into such things as the abuse scandals, and what have you... Islam needs to stand up for itself, not against big bad George Bush, but against the scum who desicrate it and manipulate its teachings for self serving LAND ownership and mineral rights, which by my reasoning... belongs to Allah anyway, and not the human race.

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[ALLAH IS GREAT]

'Right there... I'm saying Islam should DEFEND ITSELF from such invasion of the extremist idealism into there culture.'

 

Right where?I said i'm praying in a mosque,how the hell i'm I supposed to stop armed criminals suddenly rushing toward me.

Let me give you a new theory.

When an attack happens in a country,are civilians sent to ''deal'' with the criminals?

NO!They leave it to be dealt with by the police or army.

 

What you are sayin' is that muslims should take the law into their own hands and fight against these criminals,risking their lives.

 

Phreak be honest.If a gun is being pointed at your face,I don't think you would be as ''brave'' as you are in your previous post.

[phreakwars]

If I suspected they were in my area, I would be sure to inform the proper authoritys so that this can be investigated, thus AVOIDING having the mother fuckers in my MOSQUE with a fucking gun pointed at my head, much less my fucking neighborhood you stupid shit.

 

 

Maybe you all just need a fucking huge NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH program who looks for the extremist criminal.

 

AIG, I am serious, Islam protects... no not protects.. thats the wrong word....Islam DENYS TO ITSELF that some of its own are destroying it.

 

Next time AIG, It might be YOU on that train or bus, killed by a bastard amongst you who has put no value on your human life except in his own judgement of your beliefs. EXTREMIST ARE KILLING OTHER MUSLIMS does this not mean something to you ?? What would YOU do about it to keep them out of your neighborhood, and to keep them from destroying the name of Islam ??

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[fullauto]

If you don't case your own people.... others will case it for you....

[ALLAH IS GREAT]

If I suspected they were in my area, I would be sure to inform the proper authoritys so that this can be investigated, thus AVOIDING having the mother fuckers in my MOSQUE with a fucking gun pointed at my head, much less my fucking neighborhood you stupid shit.

What happened to the heroic phreak!!!As you said these bastards hide and live like any ordinary civilians,how are we supposed to tell who is a criminal and who's not?

Come on phreak,you know it's very hard to identify a criminal,let alone capture them.

Maybe you all just need a fucking huge NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH program who looks for the extremist criminal.

UUUM,OK!Whew!

 

AIG, I am serious, Islam protects... no not protects.. thats the wrong word....Islam DENYS TO ITSELF that some of its own are destroying it.

 

You do still realise that Islam is a religion right?Coz you making it sound like Islam is a human being.

 

Next time AIG, It might be YOU on that train or bus, killed by a bastard amongst you who has put no value on your human life except in his own judgement of your beliefs.

So are you saying a muslim is behind the london attack.I thought the investigation was still going on.

Don't you people ever ask yourselves,''What if we are all wrong about this?'',

''what if our government is fuckin' with our minds?'',or,''what if these fuckers are of another religion?''.

 

EXTREMIST ARE KILLING OTHER MUSLIMS does this not mean something to you ?? What would YOU do about it to keep them out of your neighborhood, and to keep them from destroying the name of Islam ??

Yes,it means alot to me.It bloody hurts me each day.But I don't see these ''Islamic Extremists'' as the only murderers of my fellow muslims.

The british & american armies do this too(every single day).Why doesn't this mean anything to you people?I don't know.Maybe there ain't enough justice in this world after all.

[phreakwars]

What happened to the heroic phreak!!!As you said these bastards hide and live like any ordinary civilians,how are we supposed to tell who is a criminal and who's not?

Come on phreak,you know it's very hard to identify a criminal,let alone capture them.

Get with the times, thats how, and to do that requires in helping build the structure of the community and its communication links

 

UUUM,OK!Whew!

No, I'm serious

 

You do still realise that Islam is a religion right?Coz you making it sound like Islam is a human being.

Ditto

 

 

So are you saying a muslim is behind the london attack.I thought the investigation was still going on.

Don't you people ever ask yourselves,''What if we are all wrong about this?'',

''what if our government is fuckin' with our minds?'',or,''what if these fuckers are of another religion?''.

More then likely, but I won't point fingers without proof

 

 

Yes,it means alot to me.It bloody hurts me each day.But I don't see these ''Islamic Extremists'' as the only murderers of my fellow muslims.

The british & american armies do this too(every single day).Why doesn't this mean anything to you people?I don't know.Maybe there ain't enough justice in this world after all.

 

Yes, I know this "AIG" but you need to think of why the Brits and Americans kill them also... Nobody helps them find the right target.

 

And thats what it comes down to "AIG" people are sick of Muslims who won't help us defend THEM.

 

It gets to be like a fucking feeding frenzy of panic and mystery as to who and WHERE the enemy is, that Muslims, and MANY ARE INDEED INNOCENT are killed for lack of communication and cooperation. But MAINLY for a lack of involvment in the irradication process, this is why the innocent MUSLIM dies.

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[ALLAH IS GREAT]

'Yes, I know this "AIG" but you need to think of why the Brits and Americans kill them also... Nobody helps them find the right target.

 

And thats what it comes down to "AIG" people are sick of Muslims who won't help us defend THEM.

 

It gets to be like a fucking feeding frenzy of panic and mystery as to who and WHERE the enemy is, that Muslims, and MANY ARE INDEED INNOCENT are killed for lack of communication and cooperation. But MAINLY for a lack of involvment in the irradication process, this is why the innocent MUSLIM dies.'

Phreak,are you feelin' ok?Fullauto,I know you have him possessed!!!

[Crazywumbat]

Get with the times, thats how, and to do that requires in helping build the structure of the community and its communication links

 

Most of the hijackers lived in the US for numerous years without being detected. So in your scerenio here, why wouldn't you assume they use the same safeguards that left them undetected elsewhere?

[ALLAH IS GREAT]

Most of the hijackers lived in the US for numerous years without being detected. So in your scerenio here, why wouldn't you assume they use the same safeguards that left them undetected elsewhere?

 

CW,they have fingers in their ears and blindfolds on their eyes.

They wont hear their flaws and wont see the real picture!!!