US May Nuke Mecca

[Crazywumbat]

I don't get the point should we kill all the clerics and open day care centers, K -12 to cure terror?

 

I say even a person who can't read can understand if America gets nuked and they blow up a couple hundred thousand Muslims that can't and can read that they could be the next to glow in the dark.

 

The analogy is like the wild west when Indians killed large numbers of Americans, we just considered them heathens and killed more of them until it sank into their non reading heads that a new kid is in charge.

 

And Bush didn't cut education spending, get your facts together he has increased education spending higher than any point in history. He just didn't fully fund NCLB to the maximum level. Federal spending is way up under the Bush administration! He's my bud and I think he should just put all the Muslim nations on a cork board and play pin the tail on the donkey if they nuke an American city. Then if they do it again take another spin and do it again and again and again until the ignorant falls out of Muslim thinking....

 

 

Funny to critisize people of being ignorant, while your post reeks of ignorance like stink off shit. As far as the native americans go, you're saying it was perfectly acceptable when Columbus came here and murdered chidlren, then we rewarded him with a holiday? Or when Andrew Jackson slaughtered thousands of people so we put him on the 20 dollar bill. When we hung indians 13 at a time in honor of Jesus and his apostles for no other reason than because they weren't Christian? Or how we infected them with diseases like smallpox eliminating entire villages? Hell, you know that story about Squanto and thanksgiving? You know how we really got that corn? We stole sacks of it from neighboring Indian villages, and you know what happened to Squanto? We sorta BEAT THE FUCKIN SHIT OUTTA HIM! You fuckin ass, OF COURSE THEY WERE GOING TO RETALIATE. And yet you say it like it was outrageous of them to even do so. What you just posted paints an infinitely more negative picture of this country then us "America Haters" ever could. We murder them, they try to defend themselves, so we murder even more of them. Very generous right?

 

You seem to think it ok that for every violent act another nation does unto us, we do 100 fold unto them, yet you fail to see the horrors and atrocities your precious country has released onto countless other nations. Why should we as Americans be exempt from any retributions for the shit we do?

[Crispy Critter]

Funny to critisize people of being ignorant, while your post reeks of ignorance like stink off shit. As far as the native americans go, you're saying it was perfectly acceptable when Columbus came here and murdered chidlren, then we rewarded him with a holiday? Or when Andrew Jackson slaughtered thousands of people so we put him on the 20 dollar bill. When we hung indians 13 at a time in honor of Jesus and his apostles for no other reason than because they weren't Christian? Or how we infected them with diseases like smallpox eliminating entire villages? Hell, you know that story about Squanto and thanksgiving? You know how we really got that corn? We stole sacks of it from neighboring Indian villages, and you know what happened to Squanto? We sorta BEAT THE FUCKIN SHIT OUTTA HIM! You fuckin ass, OF COURSE THEY WERE GOING TO RETALIATE. And yet you say it like it was outrageous of them to even do so. What you just posted paints an infinitely more negative picture of this country then us "America Haters" ever could. We murder them, they try to defend themselves, so we murder even more of them. Very generous right?

 

You seem to think it ok that for every violent act another nation does unto us, we do 100 fold unto them, yet you fail to see the horrors and atrocities your precious country has released onto countless other nations. Why should we as Americans be exempt from any retributions for the shit we do?

Because America was founded on the very fact that our god was better than any other god. You either join in and worship our god or yor are fucked. Please try to explain Western Europe's expansion into America, Africa, the west indies any other way and it don't float. America has a manifest destiny, we are the greatest nation of the world and will kill any one who dissagrees. Just ask Japan if we didn't get tired of their attacks and burned hundreds of thousands of their people alive and when the inferior people failed to submit we nuked them. That is the way it is and that is the way it is going to be. America may eat shit under liberal command but lesser gods will perish when push comes to shove...

[phreakwars]

You're forgetting about Jerusalem. That's what this entire fuss is about.

Ehhh, I think I'm gonna disagree with you, not sure what you mean, so I will just let you explain first.

 

Anyways, I wish to point something out to you all:

In Egypt, the literacy rate is a whopping... 20%. The Egyptian government offers 2 free schoolings for children per family. Now, to my knowledge, no other Arabic country (aside maybe Jordan and Lebanon) offer such services. SO, this "terrorism" isn't really terror in guarding their beliefs. It is manipulation.

I am glad you brought this up. I did not know, and I'm sure others as well in America were not aware, that the Literacy rate was so low in these areas. It CAN be a deciding factor in insurgency, hell it even shows in OUR country, and people voted for him. But anyway, yes, I can see where not being able to read to know the REAL words/interpretation of the religion you follow could make someone into an extremist.

 

So, my conclusion is that the cause of this crap is the fact that no one knows.

Remember, you can't read, but I can, and I say this book says, "to kill an infidel is not murder, it's a path to heaven." Crusades, anyone?

Is it then your hypothesis that extremist are afraid that if people educate themselves to be able to read the Qur'an, that they will denounce parts of Islam that only can be proven wrong (beheadings,etc) by being able to SEE AND INTERPRET the teachings themselves ?? ....hmm interesting indeed... But heres something interesting Jaffer. I'm sure the 9/11 hijackers could READ !!!! If I was to learn to fly a plane, I would need to take the required tests (written) to first be able to qualify. Since I would be litterate enough to be able to read THIS, then I would think one would be litterate enough to know how to read the Qur'an. So sorry, its a little hard to buy.

 

Now, about nuking Mecca. That is absolutely stupid. That would cause so many insurrections, not from just the Muslim nation, but many nations against the U.S. Even that jackass you have up there now, you know, the one that made the No Child Left Behing Act then cut educational spending, THAT jackass, even he wouldn't do that.

I agree with this too, that's just ASKING for a holy war. The only thing I scoff at, is AIG saying "ALLAH WILL PROTECT IT FROM HARM"

 

That statement is absolutely absurd, one good SCUD even, and its toast. I'm just saying this from a GET REAL standpoint, it IS destructible .

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[Master_Jaffer]

I don't get the point should we kill all the clerics and open day care centers, K -12 to cure terror?

 

I say even a person who can't read can understand if America gets nuked and they blow up a couple hundred thousand Muslims that can't and can read that they could be the next to glow in the dark.

 

The analogy is like the wild west when Indians killed large numbers of Americans, we just considered them heathens and killed more of them until it sank into their non reading heads that a new kid is in charge.

 

And Bush didn't cut education spending, get your facts together he has increased education spending higher than any point in history. He just didn't fully fund NCLB to the maximum level. Federal spending is way up under the Bush administration! He's my bud and I think he should just put all the Muslim nations on a cork board and play pin the tail on the donkey if they nuke an American city. Then if they do it again take another spin and do it again and again and again until the ignorant falls out of Muslim thinking....

Ah yes, I see your point... it is OKAY for the U.S. to terrorize and bully people, but when people fight back, it's a fucking insurrection and terrorism and they are anti-Christians and satan worshippers and pagan moon god worshipers because they hit a nation so damn full of shit that they can't see their own fallacy.

 

Ok, maybe Bush increased the spending: that's different from what I last heard. But, I do not care how much money he put in to education, the fact remains that the U.S. is back behind #15 in average IQ in the world, with an average of NINETY. 10% below average is where you fit in, so your educational spending is just being wasted.

 

I'll come back in a few, food time.

[phreakwars]

The government WANTS stupid people Jaffer, they are easier to fool

 

Exhibit A:

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[Vortex]

does it count im nebraskan raised them moved to minnesota?

 

Lol..

 

I love that graphic.....no matter how true it is.....

 

 

Stupid is as stupid votes!

[Master_Jaffer]

Ehhh, I think I'm gonna disagree with you, not sure what you mean, so I will just let you explain first.

Palestine-Israel is the fight over rights to Jerusalem. That's what the "terrorist" are defending. I can explain later, must go again.

[Crispy Critter]

The government WANTS stupid people Jaffer, they are easier to fool

 

Exhibit A:

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Duh Bush has a highher IQ than Kerry.

[Master_Jaffer]

....hmm interesting indeed... But heres something interesting Jaffer. I'm sure the 9/11 hijackers could READ !!!! If I was to learn to fly a plane, I would need to take the required tests (written) to first be able to qualify. Since I would be litterate enough to be able to read THIS, then I would think one would be litterate enough to know how to read the Qur'an. So sorry, its a little hard to buy.

There will always be corrupt people in every society. If you ever saw that old news cast about an FBI worker, GS-14 that leaked millions of dollars worth of government secrets to Russia, I'm sure he could read and he could differenciate, but there will always be corrupt people.

[Crispy Critter]

Let me say it first; forbidding racial profiling in pursuit of terrorist is the stupidest PC idea imaginable. I

[Master_Jaffer]

Let me say it first; forbidding racial profiling in pursuit of terrorist is the stupidest PC idea imaginable. I

[phreakwars]

As much as I think it is wrong, I'll have to agree with you about racial profiling.

 

 

Unless there is a bunch of "JIHAD JOHNNYS" out there, most extremist from what I can gather are middle eastern and look middle eastern. But then were not talking about jobs, or career goals, we are talking about terrorism. So I don't think it is wrong at all to investigate someone who would fit the typical "extremist" profile in there appearance. It's just protecting everyone else in the end.

 

Just like Jaffer at the airport, remove your damn shoes, and your belt, and all that other stuff he was subjected to.

 

Basically, there was not much of a choice to double check his intentions and such because of what a few extremists have done. Sure it gives most any other racial profiles a greater freedom for being white, but I don't see this being a "WHITES ONLY" issue. Its not intentional descrimination by ignorance like it would have been back in the 1950's or earler with the black race. Its just what the world has come to... And again, in order for Islamic followers to see a decline in this type of profiling, will require effort from its followers to bring the extremist down.

 

The only thing I am disappointed in, is I called the INS and was assured Jaffer would get an anal probe once he entered the country. I knew he was looking forward to one.

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[Master_Jaffer]

As much as I think it is wrong, I'll have to agree with you about racial profiling.

 

 

Unless there is a bunch of "JIHAD JOHNNYS" out there, most extremist from what I can gather are middle eastern and look middle eastern. But then were not talking about jobs, or career goals, we are talking about terrorism. So I don't think it is wrong at all to investigate someone who would fit the typical "extremist" profile in there appearance. It's just protecting everyone else in the end.

 

Just like Jaffer at the airport, remove your damn shoes, and your belt, and all that other stuff he was subjected to.

 

Basically, there was not much of a choice to double check his intentions and such because of what a few extremists have done. Sure it gives most any other racial profiles a greater freedom for being white, but I don't see this being a "WHITES ONLY" issue. Its not intentional descrimination by ignorance like it would have been back in the 1950's or earler with the black race. Its just what the world has come to... And again, in order for Islamic followers to see a decline in this type of profiling, will require effort from its followers to bring the extremist down.

 

The only thing I am disappointed in, is I called the INS and was assured Jaffer would get an anal probe once he entered the country. I knew he was looking forward to one.

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Looking forward my ass.

 

Wait... that came out wrong...

[Crispy Critter]

It is too dangerous for Muslims to do that.

Now, a little know fact about terrorist:

If you conspire(including denouncing terrorist,) against a terrorist, THEY WILL KILL YOU.

If I went up on TV, gave pure Islam proof that what they're doing is wrong, and got people to believe me, I ASSURE you, I'd be dead within the weak. It is like an old medeval power hunt, I am a hindrance to them. "Muslims" don't just kill Muslims, they kill them because they are harmful to their cause.

Example: Egyptian President Mubarak.

The US made Egypt hold open elections, Mubarak vs. Someone. Now, this certain running mate is now in JAIL for "tax evasion, conspiracy," and many other charges. Mubarak is power hungry and WILL NOT stop to fulfill this. His last opponent was KILLED.

Now, a terrorist will do EXACTLY THE SAME TO MAINTAIN THEIR POSITION. They are NOT terrorizing YOU, they are terrorizing US and manipulating US to fight you.

 

I doubt any of us here would be able to give up our lives to show the world we aren't so bad, people cling too desperately to this life.

PERSONALLY, I think a Muslim going up, denouncing terrorism, and then getting killed by a terrorist is more prone to be a matyr than some fool that kills children or innocents (they aren't matyrs at all, as Mohammed PBUH said, "To kill innocent life is as killing life itself.)

 

Muslims need to look more to the here-after, not the here.

But you can't just eat shit from the terrorist any more than westerners... if you look objectively towards terrorism as westerners then condemn them as a group the community you chose to live in will accept you. True, you may become a target of the terrorist but no more than other Westerners you choose to live with.

 

I think this is the key to the defeat of terrorism, the majority standing together to say "you are just wrong!" I see Muslim terrorism as being equal to the KKK against blacks. If you don't condemn the KKK then you acknowledge what they stand for is mainstream. When the mainstream Muslim condemns terrorist then they will be a non lethal as the KKK and not before. To not condemn is to give concurance.

[Thermite Wielding Troll]

Y'know, the idea of Allah promising to protect Mecca makes the idea of throwing some small ordinance at it tempting. Nothing big, just a little roof-shaking. I don't believe God made such a promise, so I wouldn't knowingly be testing Him

 

I try to be more mature than that

 

If we nuke Mecca we start World War III, plain and simple. And 1/4 of the World's population will be instantly at our throat, and God knows how the rest will divide. It would be dumb even if we could get away with it, all it would do is murder hundreds of thousands to millions of innocent people.

 

Also, that senator should learn to keep his mouth shut. He's an idiot for saying such a thing, whether it's true or not.

[ALLAH IS GREAT]

If we nuke Mecca we start World War III, plain and simple. And 1/4 of the World's population will be instantly at our throat, and God knows how the rest will divide. It would be dumb even if we could get away with it, all it would do is murder hundreds of thousands to millions of innocent people

 

Well said,but you're forgetting one thing,we as muslims(children,men,women) are not viewed as innocents.So I don't think their non- existant concience will be affected.

[Spleefman]

AIG...in your opinion, and with your understanding of Islam....

 

What would be the step by step process, or processes to deterring the rampant acts of terror that have been occuring.

 

Again...I know that you are not an Islamic Cleric, or leader.....

 

I'm asking you as a follower of Islam, and to the best of your understanding as well as personal opinion.

[fullauto]

you're asking for a direct and truthful answer... good luck...

[Master_Jaffer]

you're asking for a direct and truthful answer... good luck...

She's more trustworthy than you .

[fullauto]

She's more trustworthy than you .

 

I hope that was a joke...

[Master_Jaffer]

I hope that was a joke...

Mumken, yaani. Mumken.

[fullauto]

Mumken, yaani. Mumken.

 

Ist dass ein ja?

 

Wie m

[ALLAH IS GREAT]

AIG...in your opinion, and with your understanding of Islam....

 

What would be the step by step process, or processes to deterring the rampant acts of terror that have been occuring.

 

Again...I know that you are not an Islamic Cleric, or leader.....

 

I'm asking you as a follower of Islam, and to the best of your understanding as well as personal opinion.

 

I think,the best thing to do,is to help children learn the beauty of Islam at a tender age.These terrorists are changing Islam to their advantage.I say get to the kids before they do.My message would be to parents,to teach their children Islam,before they go lookin' for someone else to do a better job.In this case the terrorists take these kids under their wings and teach them to hate,sayin' Islam says so.And ofcourse the kids believe it.Islam is the opposite of what these terrorists teach.And Spleef,I think you're smarter than MRIH & Fullauto,infact I know you're smarter than them.They seem to be blinded by hate and have lost all compassion.

Ther's nothing else I can do or say in this matter other than,people need to learn the difference between the true Islam and the terrorist version.

[Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell]

I think,the best thing to do,is to help children learn the beauty of Islam at a tender age.

Why not teach them the truth instead. Islam is about death, murder and mayhem. Then they won't growup to become mujahadeen.

 

These terrorists are changing Islam to their advantage.I say get to the kids before they do.

That's rich, convert them all to islam so the terrorist won't have to kill them. Isn't this the "good cop, bad cop" plan of conquest?

 

My message would be to parents,to teach their children Islam,before they go lookin' for someone else to do a better job.

Thank you anyway, I don't want no damn demon-possesed islamic pedophile terrorist talking to my kid!

 

In this case the terrorists take these kids under their wings and teach them to hate,

they are teaching exactly what islam is! Apparently being a hypocrit is ok when your out to convert the whole world!

 

sayin' Islam says so.

Islam doesn't say so and so?

 

And ofcourse the kids believe it.

That's because they can see it for themselves! It's all written down in black and white for them to read. ... and please don't ask me to repeat for the 1000000000th time where it is, just read the damn pig-shit koran for yourself, I'm sick of quoting "kill the appostates, infidels" the "lay seiges and strategems of war" and of course the ever popular "take slave girls for yourselves (preferably between the ages of 8 and 10)"

 

Islam is the opposite of what these terrorists teach.

Islam is exactly what islam teaches... that's what makes it islam!.

 

And Spleef,I think you're smarter than MRIH & Fullauto,

No, darlin' you think that those who agree with you are smart... even your tag-line (Freudian slip) says so!

 

infact I know you're smarter than them.

I'm sure spleef agrees!

 

They seem to be blinded by hate and have lost all compassion.

Blinded by the truth! Now that's a laugh.

 

Ther's nothing else I can do or say in this matter other than,people need to learn the difference between the true Islam and the terrorist version.

The difference is .... nothing!

It's like asking what is the difference between islam and a bucket of pig-shit! ... answer: the bucket.

[ALLAH IS GREAT]

Mumken, yaani. Mumken.

 

What's possible?You better mean it,IAM more trustworthy than him.I understand a little arabic.Don't mess!