Gay Teens Hanged in Iran ?

[Master_Jaffer]

Lies! LIES! We are not being fed anything you fucking brain washed retard! Damn, you are frustrating!

 

IF YOU PRICKS WOULD NOT DO THE THINGS YOU CLAIM ARE BEING FED TO US, THEN WE WOULD HAVE NOTHING TO REPORT!

 

You are a big lie! Islam is peaceful... what a fucking bucket load of shit! If Islam is so peaceful explain all the civilian deaths in america and england... You can't possibly claim that you were defending yourselves from the infidels IN OUR OWN FUCKING COUNTRY! Bombings in Iraq, I can let slide because, let's face it, it's your land... BUT ENGLAND!?!? What did the fucking subway travellers ever do to ISLAM?

 

We know the true Islam... We see it every day when we watch the news... You're lies and half-truths are an affront to intelligence... YOU need to realize the true Islam... We are the unwitting victims of it every fucking day...

 

Lord help me... if I were in charge... I would fucking drop a daisey-cutter on the haj this year... then you can know about the true USA!

 

The only lies we are told about islam is the fact that it is peaceful! That's BS... Some of the people may be, but ISlam itself is fucked!

 

BUT YOU ARE WAKING US UP! BE CAREFULL WHAT YOU WISH FOR! IT JUST MAY COME TRUE....

Explain to me why America and England had to dump the Jews in Arabia because they didn't want them, then aided them with weapons and WMD's to subgigate our people.

Then you could say our attacks were meaningless and barbaric.

You placed someone that views us as THEIR MORTAL ENEMY DIRECTLY IN OUR HOMELAND AND EXPECT US JUST TO SIT DOWN AND TAKE IT?

 

What happened to America when Britian subgigated them and attacked them and taxed them?

They FOUGHT BACK.

They attacked the people bringing imports in. Were they guilty? No.

They discarded their taxed resources and burnt their ships. Were they guilty? No.

 

You aren't an example to the world. You were the little guy, and through virtually the same acts of attacking innocents and making stands like this, you got power.

 

Now, tell me the logic behind this: you can do it and be a great nation of justice. We do it and we're a bunch of shit eating terrorizing bastards that don't give a fuck about anyone?

 

Drop your claim to being just, you're just as bad as the rest of us.

 

Btw, it wasSilverDragon87. I don't even know who he is >_<

[ALLAH IS GREAT]

Btw, it wasSilverDragon87. I don't even know who he is >_<

 

oops,my bad,sorry vorty.That's a suprise I thought it would be him to be offended by it.

[Spleefman]

Guess it's best to stay in the closet there....might even want to lock it from the inside! :o

[Vortex]

oops,my bad,sorry vorty.That's a suprise I thought it would be him to be offended by it.

 

 

I may get offended by ignorance..but i do hold off on my negative rep trigger finger quite well...I prefer to lash out as hard as i can with words before i use the scales negatively. If they have a hint of a brain and offended me in some way id rather idiot box them first before giving negative rep. If they are a mindless moron that cant seem to put together a sentence that can be read easily then neg. all the way!

 

And i appreciate that you thought it was me, ill make a mental note of that in the future....

[ALLAH IS GREAT]

And i appreciate that you thought it was me, ill make a mental note of that in the future....

 

My.oh..My,you like takin' notes...

[Vortex]

My.oh..My,you like takin' notes...

 

 

Of course you should see my note pad....now im doodling a cute fuzzy little pit bull foaming at the mouth....the beady eyes are adorable...they scream pet me!

[Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell]

WOW,you sack of Bull Shit!!

La burra hablando de orejas!

 

The explanation for the civilian deaths in USA and ENGLAND is some blood thristy bastards,

Islam.

 

gripping at any excuse to use to commit their crimes(Islam in this case).

Yes, I already said it, islam.

 

Fullo,you said the truth about Islam is in the news,WTF???

All we hear in the news is,MUSLIM TERRORISTS,ISLAMIC EXTREMISTS....

A BIG FUCKIN' GENERALIZATION!!!

So they aren't really muslims, then?

 

Tell me,how come when a gang of christian criminals kill someone, they are just called murderers.

1) There are no gangs of Christian murderer's.

2) There are no gangs of anyone committing terrorist acts with websites dedicating the carnage to Jesus.

3) There are no organizations of any kind that claim to be Christian that exonerate, contribute or condone acts of violence.

4) There are no teachings of Jesus to kill, mame or destroy... NONE!

There are more, but common sense should actually tell you why... Oh yeah, your muslim, you sacrificed common sense when you joined that infernal "religion"!

 

To be fair,they should be dubbed CHRISTIAN MURDERERS!!

Which ones exactly?

 

I keep sayin' this to you people,

Yeah, we know, you sound like a broken islamic propoganda record!

 

take your eyes off the Telly and go and learn about Islam.

We did, and what we learned STINKS TO HIGH HEAVEN!

 

Meet the muslims you've all called Terrorists.

Oh that's rich, you want us to just suicide ourselves! might as well go pet a 15' crocodile!

 

You're the frustrating one,tellin' me I'm brain washed,yet the only thing you've told us about your non-existing belief is ,''ALL HAIL ENKI''

No one's killed anybody (yet) in the name of "Enki".

 

And ''WE'' are not the one's wakin' you up,you just found something to finally drop your load of hate and bullshit on!!And you blindly believe everything,YES,YOU ARE FUCKIN' FED!!

Now this is what frustrates me most, the amount of useless and meaningless words that say nothing!

[Crazywumbat]

1) There are no gangs of Christian murderer's.

2) There are no gangs of anyone committing terrorist acts with websites dedicating the carnage to Jesus.

3) There are no organizations of any kind that claim to be Christian that exonerate, contribute or condone acts of violence.

4) There are no teachings of Jesus to kill, mame or destroy... NONE!

There are more, but common sense should actually tell you why... Oh yeah, your muslim, you sacrificed common sense when you joined that infernal "religion"!

 

1. The KKK, Church of Jesus Christ Christian/Aryan Nations, and any other Christian Identity groups.

2. See 1.

3. See 1.

4. There are plenty of biblical passages that could EASILY be interpreted into teachings of violence and the like.

[Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell]

1. The KKK, Church of Jesus Christ Christian/Aryan Nations, and any other Christian Identity groups.

2. See 1.

3. See 1.

4. There are plenty of biblical passages that could EASILY be interpreted into teachings of violence and the like.

 

You say "The" KKK like there is only one when in fact there are thousands of independant Klans... some good, some bad, some just plain weird, some claim to be Christian others claim no religious affiliation at all... it's impossible to use "The Klan" as a basis for any argument.

 

The Church of Jesus Christ-Christian is part of the Aryan Nations. check out their website... http://www.aryan-nations.org/ notice at the top they have something written in arabic. and I quote this little tid-bit of islamic filth that is part of the aryan nations...

 

"...The Tabernacles of the Phinehas Priesthood will remain the Biblically based foundation of the Aryan Nations, however, membership of the Aryan Nations will continue to welcome Islamists and adherents to other moral religions into our ranks. There is nothing new being done within the Aryan Nations, all of our brothers and sisters were always welcome to join our ranks, and as it was in the past, the Biblical views of the Aryan Nations conception will remain the basis of our structure. There is one differentiation that the Islamic Believer must accept that is not necessarily Islamic, and this is our modus operandi regarding Jihad. Islamic Jihad is the cleansing of Islamic controlled lands, once the land is decontaminated; the Jihad is over, on the other hand, our Jihad is more specific, and it is strictly and primarily for the extermination of the satanic

[phreakwars]

PLEASE THROW STUPIDWUMBAT IN THE IDIOT BOX, WHERE HE DESPARATELY BELONGS.

Is that a POLL I smell ??

 

First person with 10 votes gets put in for a week.

To keep the voting fair, voters names are shown.

.

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[ALLAH IS GREAT]

You say "The" KKK like there is only one when in fact there are thousands of independant Klans... some good, some bad, some just plain weird, some claim to be Christian others claim no religious affiliation at all... it's impossible to use "The Klan" as a basis for any argument

 

See this is what I don't get,You say,''Some claim to be christian'',you can't use this one coz I've tried to say,''The terrorists claim to be muslim'',but you still say they are muslim.So since this''some'' claim to be christian and do bad things,then all christians are violent fuckers right?

[Crazywumbat]

You say "The" KKK like there is only one when in fact there are thousands of independant Klans... some good, some bad, some just plain weird, some claim to be Christian others claim no religious affiliation at all... it's impossible to use "The Klan" as a basis for any argument.

 

The Church of Jesus Christ-Christian is part of the Aryan Nations. check out their website... http://www.aryan-nations.org/ notice at the top they have something written in arabic. and I quote this little tid-bit of islamic filth that is part of the aryan nations...

 

"...The Tabernacles of the Phinehas Priesthood will remain the Biblically based foundation of the Aryan Nations, however, membership of the Aryan Nations will continue to welcome Islamists and adherents to other moral religions into our ranks. There is nothing new being done within the Aryan Nations, all of our brothers and sisters were always welcome to join our ranks, and as it was in the past, the Biblical views of the Aryan Nations conception will remain the basis of our structure. There is one differentiation that the Islamic Believer must accept that is not necessarily Islamic, and this is our modus operandi regarding Jihad. Islamic Jihad is the cleansing of Islamic controlled lands, once the land is decontaminated; the Jihad is over, on the other hand, our Jihad is more specific, and it is strictly and primarily for the extermination of the satanic

[ALLAH IS GREAT]

LOL,CW,you gotta be careful makin' him look stupid.he'll drop you in his ignore list again.

[Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell]

Uhhh you yourself put it in bold you stupid fuck.

Absolutely... to show you just how non-Christian these people are (they are non-islamic as well... they are just anti jew) DUHHHHH!!!!

 

How very Christian of them, why stop with the lands they control? They have the whole world in mind, wipe them off the face of the earth instead of the face of the middle-east.

How very Muslim of them, why stop with the lands they control? They have the whole world in mind, wipe them off the face of the earth instead of the face of the middle-east.

 

Hey Stupidwumbat, anybody can make a stupid blanket statement....

 

Secondly, this is the words of a Christian group,

Did you read the bold print? It says theye are on a "Jihad", they welcome Islamists... They are by their own admission non-Christian.

 

it has absolutely NOTHING to do with Islam, other than saying they welcome Muslims into their ranks.

And jihad on jews.

 

You CONSTANTLY ignore the evils in your own religion and focus on Islam, even tying it into things it has no cause in being in.

 

The Aryan nations are so non-Christian it's not even funny... refer to the same quote you just slapped up here. Your assumption that Arayan Nations is main-stream Christian is so far fetched, if any reader is stupid enough to believe that then God help them!

 

Loving group of Christians, no?

Absolutely not!

 

From the KKK homepage:

... Which KKK home page? there are thousands.... What ever they do, or say, doesn't mean a thing... They are not Mainstream Christianity. I know MANY hispanic Christians who have nothing to do with the KKK.... They do not give to the KKK, Aryan Nations, or any other white supreamicist group, are they any less Christian?

 

AIG on the other hand claims that Al-Queda is the same thing for islam. Several HUGE differences.

 

1) Al-Queda is well funded by islamic mosques and groups all over the world. The Aryan Nations is not.

 

2) Al-Queda does not specifically target any group of there own religion. The Aryan Nations will target any non-white Christian. If they target Christians as part of their hate, how can they be Christian? It makes no sense at all.

 

3) Al-Queda has millions of members, The Aryan Nations has a few thousand.

 

Common sense should also prevail here. The Aryan Nations is simply non-Christian. The KKK (Though there is no such single entity is and has been for the past 30 years) a benign and non-violent group. They were at one time very violent, attacking Christian Blacks, Christian Hispanics, Catholics were on there list of Hate as well... If Islam would follow in the same steps as the them (becoming more peaceful) I would have no problem with themn either.

 

Not to mention, there is enough Christian Identity hategroups ALONE to keep you busy into the next Millenia without looking at other types of Christian hate groups.

There are? You have failed to mention any. Since the KKK is not a single entity it doesn't count. The Aryan Nations are non-Christian. So where are all of the Christian hate groups? They don't exist and I will tell you why... One the foremost tenets of Christianity is to "love thy neighbor" Jesus' teachings were all about love, forgiveness, tolerence and peace....

 

Again, you will never find one teaching of Christ were Jesus commands his followers to hate, despise, kill, or wage war on any person or bodies of people.

[ALLAH IS GREAT]

Absolutely... to show you just how non-Christian these people are (they are non-islamic as well... they are just anti jew) DUHHHHH!!!!

You fuckin' hypocrite!So by their actions,they are automatically not christians?Even though they ''claim'' to be.So when we say that Islam does not condone violence,and these terrorists(al-qaeda) are not muslim due to their actions,you're quick to say Islam teaches them to do these crimes.Why are you such a damn hypocrite?You can't tell us not to generalize christians coz of this group,when you generalize muslims coz of the actions carried out by Al-Qaeda!

 

How very Muslim of them, why stop with the lands they control? They have the whole world in mind, wipe them off the face of the earth instead of the face of the middle-east.

WOW,can you people believe this dickhead?!!Why are you bringing muslims in this argument.We are speakin' of a christian group.Well done for tryin' to shove the blame on muslims even though these actions are carried out by christians.

 

Hey Stupidwumbat, anybody can make a stupid blanket statement....

Round of applause,You did just that!

 

Did you read the bold print? It says theye are on a "Jihad", they welcome Islamists... They are by their own admission non-Christian.

 

And jihad on jews.

What admission?They said they are christians.God!you're dumb.They probably used the word Jihad coz they also think the meaning is holy war.So they,as christians,are waging a holy war on the jews.I don't see a sentence where they welcome ''Islamists''.

 

 

The Aryan nations are so non-Christian it's not even funny...

They say they are christian,what else should we believe?

 

 

AIG on the other hand claims that Al-Queda is the same thing for islam. Several HUGE differences.

 

1) Al-Queda is well funded by islamic mosques and groups all over the world. The Aryan Nations is not.

Please give me a list of these mosques.You fuckin' liar.You ain't a christian,coz you're a lying,hating motherfucker!!

 

2) Al-Queda does not specifically target any group of there own religion. The Aryan Nations will target any non-white Christian. If they target Christians as part of their hate, how can they be Christian? It makes no sense at all.

OH my God! I'll give you an example:Al-Qaeda bombed the London trains,which carry over 3,000,000 passengers each day.And muslims were killed too.So this is the most stupid reason you've given yet.The Aryan Nations are christians,that's enough for me to know.MRIH,you can't call someone non-christian at the drop of the hat,when you,yourself act non-christian!!

 

3) Al-Queda has millions of members, The Aryan Nations has a few thousand.

What difference does a figure make?And i'd like to know where you got the al-qaeda figure from.And if they had millions of members,then why are they in hiding?They can easily kill more people than they have.Stop bullshitting MRIH.

Come up with something that has more substance.Coz this,''christians don't do this but muslims do'' theory is gettin' fuckin' boringgggg!!

 

Again, you will never find one teaching of Christ were Jesus commands his followers to hate, despise, kill, or wage war on any person or bodies of people.

Honey,the commands and words of Jesus are not in any of your bibles.So,yeah I guess it would be hard to find anything productive!!

 

Come on,you worship him as God,yet there is nowhere that it says Jesus said,''I'm God,worship me''.All you gave me is the ''IAM'' bullshit.God is not the same as IAM!!

 

IAM.....what??

[Spleefman]

A WARNING......A LITTLE LONG, but AIG asked so here you go girl.

 

Jesus called Himself the "Son of God" throughout the Gospels, (John 3:16-18), and the disciples also identified Him as the Son of God in their writings, (Rom 1:3).

 

Further, Jesus identified Himself as God revealed in the flesh, (John 8:58), and His disciples identified Him as God, (John 1:1, Phil 2:5-11). How could Jesus be The Son of God, and God at the same time? What does this term - "Son of God" mean? And if Jesus is the Son, in what way is Jesus God's Son? Did God have physical relations with Mary and get her pregnant?

 

Many Muslims do not understand what this term, according to Christian theology, actually means. They have asked these or similar questions. This focuses on what the term "Son of God" signifies in Christian theology with respect to Muslim understanding.

 

Muhammad, the founder of Islam, misunderstood what the term "Son of God" meant with respect to Christianity. He thought of it only in terms of sexual reproduction, i.e. that God fathered a child through sexual intercourse with Mary. Therefore he spoke out against it.

 

Christians also reject that God had physical intercourse with Mary, but we understand Christ being God's Son as an analogical term. We believe that the eternal Son of God, one with the Father from all eternity, united to Him in one Spirit, "became flesh and dwelt among us" (John 1:14), and took "the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men" (Philippians 2:7). We believe in the incarnation of the Son of God.

 

Muhammad did hear the Christians proclaim Jesus the Messiah as God's Son, but understanding or not, he specifically denied that Jesus was the Son of God. He said in the Quran,

 

Sura 2:116 - "They say: "God has begotten a son". Glory be to Him. No, to Him belongs all that is in the heavens and on earth: everything renders worship to Him."

 

and,

 

Sura 9:30 - "The Christians say the Messiah is the Son of God, that is a saying from their mouths."

 

Muhammad was unable to distinguish between the Christian belief in Jesus as the Son of God and the Arab Pagan belief in idols as offspring of God, i.e., Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, and Manat, (these were idols worshipped around Mecca as daughters of the supreme God - or Allah). Muhammad misunderstood that Christians in no way consider Jesus - the Son of God, in the same way the Arab Pagans understood their idols.

 

Muhammad's misconception of the Sonship of Christ is another proof that the Quran was not revealed to him by God, but rather it was built upon Muhammad's own concepts and ideology.

 

Because of Muhammad's misunderstanding, Islam places limits on God's power. In view of this, a Christian writer commented that "to assert that God has no Son because He has no wife is like saying that God is not living because He does not draw breath." Daniel, "Islam and the West, p.182.

 

WHAT THE TERM "SON OF GOD" SIGNIFIES

 

The expression "Son of God", is an analogical term. It indicates origin, a close association, or identification. In Christian theology it describes the relationship of two persons of the triune God. It expresses an intimate relationship between two persons: God the Father, and God the Son - Jesus the Messiah.

 

Here are several scriptures illustrating this facet of their relationship:

 

John 17:5 - "And now Father, glorify me in Your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began."

 

Here Jesus stated that He was with the Father before the world began.

 

Colossians 1:13-20 "For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins. He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities all things were created by him and for him. He is before all things and in him all things hold together. And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead so that in everything He might have the supremacy. For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him and through him to reconcile to himself all things whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross."

 

Here, we see the term "Son of God", brought to light: "the image of the invisible God".

 

Hebrews 1:1-3 "In the past God spoke to our forefathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days He has spoken to us by His Son whom He appointed heir of all things and through whom He made the universe. The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of His being, sustaining all things by His powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven."

 

Again, we see the relationship between the Father and the Son disclosed, "the exact representation of His being".

 

John 1:1-3, 10, 14, 18 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through Him all things were made; without Him, nothing was made that has been made......(10) He was in the world and though the world was made through Him, the world did not recognize Him....(14) The Word became flesh and made His dwelling among us. We have seen His glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father full of grace and truth......(18) No one has ever seen God, but God the One and Only, who is at the Father's side has made Him known."

 

John 14:8, 10 "Don't you know me Phillip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, "Show us the Father"? Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me?"

 

Jesus plainly told Phillip, "Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father".

 

From these verses we see that in Christ, the invisible God is revealed. Jesus was with the Father before the world began. Christ, as God the Son, is the Creator of all things. God in all His fullness, dwelt in Christ, reconciling the world. We see that Christ, as the Son of God - God's representation, is God manifest and revealed to the world. Angels, prophets, and things can reveal to us something about God. But God alone can reveal God. It takes God to reveal Himself to mankind. What better way for the eternal revealer to be revealed to mankind on earth than by clothing His self-expresion in human form?

 

JESUS AS THE WORD OF GOD

 

Muslims believe that the Quran - their Word of God - is eternal. The Quran also calls Jesus the Word of God. Since Muslims believe that the Quran is eternal, yet is able to enter into the limitations of time and space, and become available in book form, could not Jesus as the Word of God, be made manifest in human form? If on earth, Muslims believe that the uncreated Word of God - i.e., the Quran - is found as a book making it both uncreated and created, then cannot the uncreated Word of God be revealed as a human, if God willed it? That God has willed this is revealed in the testimony of the Gospels - God's eternal self-expression, His Word, His Son, has entered human form as Jesus the Messiah.

 

God the Father and God the Son are both God, but they are different persons. They are equal in essence, indeed of one essence, yet one is subject to the other's authority. The human analogy goes no further than this - an earthly father and his son are both human to the full, yet the second must bow to the authority of the first. Jesus is subject to the Father's authority. When He came to earth He came as the Father's ambassador to redeem men from sin and, being found in human form, took His subjection to the Father's authority to the point of a son to a father's relationship.

 

As the Son of God, Christ, the second person of the Trinity, possesses the same essence as the Father, yet is subject to the Father as an earthly son is subject to his father. Jesus is not the Son of God because of His mighty works and miracles, but He did those works because He is the Son of God.

 

The prime duty of a son is to honor and obey his father, to serve him freely and fully. The ideas of being a servant and a son are found throughout the Bible. Jesus as God the Son, served God the Father not out of compulsion but because of His unity with the Father, served out of love.

[Spleefman]

MUSLIM ARGUMENTS AGAINST JESUS BEING THE SON OF GOD

 

Muslims frequently ask that if Jesus were really God's Son, or God in the flesh, why didn't Jesus know the date of the hour of judgment? Ref. Matthew 24:36.

 

"But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only."

 

Or if Jesus were God in the flesh, why did He say,

 

"The Son can don nothing of his own accord but only what the sees the Father doing,.....The Father is greater than I,.... I can do nothing on my own authority." John 5:19, 14:28, 5:30.

 

Muslims will ask rhetorical questions such as, "Wouldn't God know the last hour of Judgment?" Or, "If Jesus were God, why did He say, "the Father is greater than I"?"

 

The answer lies in what Christ's Sonship on earth entails. The passage that best addresses it is Philippians 2:5-8. "Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, who being in the form of God thought it not robbery to be equal with God, but made Himself of no reputation and took upon Him the form of a servant and was made in the likeness of men: and being found in fashion as a man He humbled Himself and became obedient unto death, even the death on the cross."

 

Here Christ emptied Himself. The Sonship of Christ is revealed in this: He was revealed as God in the flesh, and yet submitted to God the Father. He was limited as a man, and He glorified God the Father. The analogical term "Son" best describes Christ's relationship with God the Father.

 

Christ's exalted relationship is even seen in the very verse Muslims choose to attack His Sonship... In Mark 13:32 Christ says, "But of that day and hour knows no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father." Here, Jesus places Himself above men, and above the angels. Jesus describes Himself alone in a category in relation to God.

 

Likewise, Christ when saying that He does nothing of His own accord, states that "whatever the Father does, the Son does likewise." Christ establishes His Sonship and puts Himself in perfect harmony with God. Even Muhammad is declared in the Quran as a sinner in Sura 48:2, but Christ walked in perfect harmony with the Father.

 

As Muhammad failed to understand what "Son of God" signified, so today, many Muslims continue to misunderstand. The term "Son of God" does not mean that God had intercourse with Mary, or created sons for Himself, but that Jesus, as God, is the image of God, made manifest to men. As Muslims believe that the Quran is eternal, uncreated, and is the Word of God found in physical book form, they should be able to understand that Jesus is eternal, uncreated, and is the Living Word of God in physical living form.

 

CONCLUSION

 

Jesus manifested his eternal abiding glory to John - as opposed to the veiled form of a humble servant he had while he walked this earth - while John was imprisoned on the isle of Patmos, revealing himself as what he truly was and will forever be, God Almighty -

 

Revelations 1:8 "I am the Alpha and the Omega, says the Lord God, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.

 

Revelations 22:13, 16. "I am the Alpha and Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.".....(16) I Jesus have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches.

 

Jesus is the Son of God. This means that He is God, revealed to man. The term "Son of God" is an analogy, describing the relationship between two persons of God. Christ is the image of God to mankind. God - omnipotent, revealed Himself to mankind, in Christ.

[ALLAH IS GREAT]

Spleef I don't mean to embarass you baby but don't you think atleast you should try and be original?

 

http://answering-islam.org.uk/Silas/son2.htm

[ALLAH IS GREAT]

Muhammad, the founder of Islam, misunderstood what the term "Son of God" meant with respect to Christianity. He thought of it only in terms of sexual reproduction, i.e. that God fathered a child through sexual intercourse with Mary. Therefore he spoke out against it

 

And whoever wrote this obviously knew what a man who lived 1400 years ago thought .And Muhammed(s.a.w) was not the founder of Islam,all the prophets before him were muslims,including Jesus(as).They all believed in Allah and there is no distinction between them.

And why would the almighty God want to dwell among us?Why would He want to be born like a human,to eat,drink and go toilet like a human,and to die like a human?it doesn't make sense.These are not the qualities of God.

 

Honey,I asked for a sentence in the bible where it says,Jesus said,''Iam God,worship me''.I don't want to hear about what other men thought he meant or thought he said.It's wrong to worship somone who didn't say worship me.

 

ps:Spleef,we still cool right?

[Spleefman]

Spleef I don't mean to embarass you baby but don't you think atleast you should try and be original?

 

http://answering-islam.org.uk/Silas/son2.htm

 

 

i meant to post that ...thanks.......there is no fucking way I could have typed all that without getting an anurism!!!!!!

 

 

SORRY...but I did find it rather interesting!

[Spleefman]

And whoever wrote this obviously knew what a man who lived 1400 years ago thought .And Muhammed(s.a.w) was not the founder of Islam,all the prophets before him were muslims,including Jesus(as).They all believed in Allah and there is no distinction between them.

And why would the almighty God want to dwell among us?Why would He want to be born like a human,to eat,drink and go toilet like a human,and to die like a human?it doesn't make sense.These are not the qualities of God.

 

Honey,I asked for a sentence in the bible where it says,Jesus said,''Iam God,worship me''.I don't want to hear about what other men thought he meant or thought he said.It's wrong to worship somone who didn't say worship me.

 

ps:Spleef,we still cool right?

 

And he did say " there is no other way to the father but through me"...I was origianlly looking for the book and verse number, when I came across that paper....i found it interesting.

 

When Pilot asked if Christ was indeed who he proclaimed to be ...he said "I am".

 

And yes...we still cool!

[Crazywumbat]

Absolutely... to show you just how non-Christian these people are (they are non-islamic as well... they are just anti jew) DUHHHHH!!!!

 

How very Muslim of them, why stop with the lands they control? They have the whole world in mind, wipe them off the face of the earth instead of the face of the middle-east.

 

Hey Stupidwumbat, anybody can make a stupid blanket statement....

 

Did you read the bold print? It says theye are on a "Jihad", they welcome Islamists... They are by their own admission non-Christian.

 

And jihad on jews.

 

 

 

The Aryan nations are so non-Christian it's not even funny... refer to the same quote you just slapped up here. Your assumption that Arayan Nations is main-stream Christian is so far fetched, if any reader is stupid enough to believe that then God help them!

 

Absolutely not!

 

... Which KKK home page? there are thousands.... What ever they do, or say, doesn't mean a thing... They are not Mainstream Christianity. I know MANY hispanic Christians who have nothing to do with the KKK.... They do not give to the KKK, Aryan Nations, or any other white supreamicist group, are they any less Christian?

 

AIG on the other hand claims that Al-Queda is the same thing for islam. Several HUGE differences.

 

1) Al-Queda is well funded by islamic mosques and groups all over the world. The Aryan Nations is not.

 

2) Al-Queda does not specifically target any group of there own religion. The Aryan Nations will target any non-white Christian. If they target Christians as part of their hate, how can they be Christian? It makes no sense at all.

 

3) Al-Queda has millions of members, The Aryan Nations has a few thousand.

 

Common sense should also prevail here. The Aryan Nations is simply non-Christian. The KKK (Though there is no such single entity is and has been for the past 30 years) a benign and non-violent group. They were at one time very violent, attacking Christian Blacks, Christian Hispanics, Catholics were on there list of Hate as well... If Islam would follow in the same steps as the them (becoming more peaceful) I would have no problem with themn either.

 

There are? You have failed to mention any. Since the KKK is not a single entity it doesn't count. The Aryan Nations are non-Christian. So where are all of the Christian hate groups? They don't exist and I will tell you why... One the foremost tenets of Christianity is to "love thy neighbor" Jesus' teachings were all about love, forgiveness, tolerence and peace....

 

Again, you will never find one teaching of Christ were Jesus commands his followers to hate, despise, kill, or wage war on any person or bodies of people.

 

 

Ok, right on the Aryan Nation homepage:

the rules and conduct are based on Biblical Law, and the general views of the bulk of this organization is the acceptance of Aryan Messianic Identity, or other forms of what is called

[Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell]

You fuckin' hypocrite!So by their actions,they are automatically not christians?Even though they ''claim'' to be.

Ok, Listen up dummy!

 

1) The Aryan Nations is a group of people who hate anyone and everyone that is not 100% Caucasian. Period. They make no exception for Christian non-whites, muslim non-whites, or any other fucking religion. They accept Islamic Caucasians (Like the Persians, Tartars, etc. who are Muslim) They make no bones about it.

 

2) So now if you want to say that the Aryan Nations is not evil, it has only been perverted by a few "bad apples" that are perverting the peaceful doctrines of the Aryan Nations, then I'll tell you the same thing I'm saying about Islam. Islam is Evil and the Aryan Nations is Evil. That is all I have to say about that. You and Stupidwumbat don't fucking get it, but that's just too bad. The world is full of morons and getting stupider everyday... You both are in good company.

 

for So when we say that Islam does not condone violence,and these terrorists(al-qaeda) are not muslim due to their actions,you're quick to say Islam teaches them to do these crimes.

That is because just like the Aryan Nations teaches hate, Islam teaches hate. We have been over and over this topic for 6 months now.

 

Ask MJ why Islam teaches to kill apostates. MJ's anwser at least is truthful. You say it is not so even though it is so (look up the pig-shit verse yourself)

 

Why are you such a damn hypocrite?You can't tell us not to generalize christians coz of this group,when you generalize muslims coz of the actions carried out by Al-Qaeda!

It is not simply Al-Qaeda (although that would be enough) There is Hamas, Islamic Jihad, The entire nations of Syria, Egypt, Lybia, Saudia Arabia, Iraq(defunct... thank God!) Iran... The pig-shit book is full of kill, mame, destroy... wage war, kill apostates, behead infidels, etc. etc. etc. The pig-shit book was written by one man with one philosophy abnd that philosophy was basically submit or die!

 

WOW,can you people believe this dickhead?!!Why are you bringing muslims in this argument.We are speakin' of a christian group.Well done for tryin' to shove the blame on muslims even though these actions are carried out by christians.

Because..

1) They are not Christian... by their own admission. and by their actions. Hating anyone is not "loving thy neighbor".

2) They admit white muslims... are white muslims Christians? WTF???... ya'll are retarded. This is inescapable logic!

 

Round of applause,You did just that!

Whatever...

 

What admission?They said they are christians.

They said "We welcome muslims into our ranks."

They said "We are on a Jihad."

 

God!you're dumb.

Why is God dumb, Don't you mean "Allah"???

 

They probably used the word Jihad coz they also think the meaning is holy war.

They used it because they are trying to attract the white muslims (in my opinion) They have Arabic Language plastreed all over their website... They are trying real hard to look islamic!

 

So they,as christians,are waging a holy war on the jews.I don't see a sentence where they welcome ''Islamists''.

That's because you're illiterate! It's there, honey, just keep sounding out the letters until you hear it!

 

They say they are christian,what else should we believe?

You're going to believe whatever you want, so I don't care. They are not Christian. Period. If you say Al-Qaeda is not islamic then I'm happy for you...but my questions are:

1) Why are they so well funded?

2) Why are their ranks so swelled?

3) Why are they given so much aid and comfort?

 

Please give me a list of these mosques.You fuckin' liar.You ain't a christian,coz you're a lying,hating motherfucker!!

Look them up yourself, Knit-wit... There are thousands, the mosques in the US have now either stopped, or are channelling funds in undetected ways.

 

OH my God! I'll give you an example:Al-Qaeda bombed the London trains,which carry over 3,000,000 passengers each day.

And that makes themn good, or what?

 

And muslims were killed too.

Not by design.

 

So this is the most stupid reason you've given yet.

What reason? Al Qaeda blew up a train, so their not muslims?

 

The Aryan Nations are christians

1) They are not Christian.

2) They haven't blown up any trains that I know of.

 

,that's enough for me to know.MRIH,you can't call someone non-christian at the drop of the hat,when you,yourself act non-christian!!

But you can? WTF???? It's hardly a "drop of the hat" Jesus said: "Love those who persecute you" and "pray for your enemies" ... I don't think the Arayan Nations do either of these. Jesus further went on to say that you'd "know them by their fruits"... My questions are:1) What are the Fruits of the Arayan Nations? 2) What are the fruits of Islam? 3) What are the Fruits of Christendom?

 

Come up with something that has more substance.Coz this,''christians don't do this but muslims do'' theory is gettin' fuckin' boringgggg!!

So now you're bored! Call your fucking brother-in-law and tell him to blow something else up. Or better yet, why don't you do it yourself?

 

Honey,the commands and words of Jesus are not in any of your bibles.So,yeah I guess it would be hard to find anything productive!!

How about "Go ye unto all the nations" a direct quote by Jesus.

 

Come on,you worship him as God,yet there is nowhere that it says Jesus said,''I'm God,worship me''.All you gave me is the ''IAM'' bullshit.God is not the same as IAM!!

 

IAM.....what??

I don't know this topic jump shifted... oh yes I do, you are schizophrenic or ADD or something.

[Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell]

Ok, right on the Aryan Nation homepage:

Just because something is biblical does not make it Christian, dumbass. Would you say Judaism is Christian? It is biblical... very biblical, but it is NOT Christian...

 

Yes, the Church of Jesus Christ....how very un-christian of them...fucking dumbass.

I don't care what they call their group. It is not Christian. Might as well say it is "religious" and condemn all religions... they claim to be Christian... maybe... but what do their actions say. Their actions actions are very anti-Christian

 

Now compare that to Al Qaeda whose actions are very islamic! I don't care what Al-Queda, Hamas, Al-Jihad, The Taliban, or any other militant arm of islam "claim" to be.. the proof is in the pudding as it were.

 

Like Shakespeare said: "Would a rose by any ther name smell as sweet?" ... Killing murder, warfare and terrorism are all very much a part of Islam. They are not part of Christianity.

 

Now I'm no expert on Christianity,

THEN SHUT THE FUCK UP!

 

but "Pastor" is a Christin title, is it not?

Isn'r "President" a democratic title... used by Sadaam Hussein did that make him a democrat... moron.

 

Under the "ABout us" section.

Again these are just words ... actions, actions, actions.... That's how you know what something is.

 

Listen you fucking moron. You know that a duck is a duck, not because the fucking duck tells you he's a duck... You know it because he looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, waddles, swims in pairs... etc.... get it now you doofus?

 

Well now, I didn't know a non-christian could be a reverend or a pastor.

Well you do now! (If your brain has turned on)

 

Good god man, they belong to a fucking movement known as CHRISTIAN IDENTITY!!! HOW THE FUCK IS THAT NOT CHRISTIAN?!

They don't act like Christians!

 

http://www.religioustolerance.org/cr_ident.htm

 

Looking for more Christian groups that advocate the killings of those that oppose their views? Heres a website devoted to just that:

 

http://www.wicasta.com/thewatch/watch03.html

 

Hell do a 30 second search for Christian identity or Christian hate groups and you'll get more than enough sources.

Hate and Christianity do not mix. It is that simple.

 

 

Now in all fairness, the Aryan Nation website does say this:

 

 

It would seem that they are non Christian, however if you actually click o nthe link to the Priesthood right under that, it is filled with Biblical passages, Biblical commentary, and is run by PASTOR Jay Faber. It is full of junk from your CHRISTIAN bible so explain to me how it is not Christian now? Heres one link from it I thought youd appreciate MRIH:

 

"Jihad, in the Bible"

http://aryan-nations.org/holyorder/Jihad.htm

Doesn't matter. Like I said, anything taken out of context can say whatever. I don't care. I doesn't make it Christian.

 

So please, pull your head out of your ass, and WAKE THE FUCK UP! Your religion is full of just as many nutjobs and wackos as the Islamic religion is you stupid fucker.

YES, THERE ARE SO MANY TERRORIST ATTACKS ON THE MIDDLE EAST BY CHRISTIAN FUNDAMENTALISTS. You're stupidity makes me sick! I should have left you on my "ignore list"

 

But at least your trying to make sense... I'll graduate you to the rank of "Stupidamoeba"

[Crazywumbat]

Just because something is biblical does not make it Christian, dumbass. Would you say Judaism is Christian? It is biblical... very biblical, but it is NOT Christian...

 

I don't care what they call their group. It is not Christian. Might as well say it is "religious" and condemn all religions... they claim to be Christian... maybe... but what do their actions say. Their actions actions are very anti-Christian

 

Now compare that to Al Qaeda whose actions are very islamic! I don't care what Al-Queda, Hamas, Al-Jihad, The Taliban, or any other militant arm of islam "claim" to be.. the proof is in the pudding as it were.

 

Like Shakespeare said: "Would a rose by any ther name smell as sweet?" ... Killing murder, warfare and terrorism are all very much a part of Islam. They are not part of Christianity.

 

THEN SHUT THE FUCK UP!

 

Isn'r "President" a democratic title... used by Sadaam Hussein did that make him a democrat... moron.

 

Again these are just words ... actions, actions, actions.... That's how you know what something is.

 

Listen you fucking moron. You know that a duck is a duck, not because the fucking duck tells you he's a duck... You know it because he looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, waddles, swims in pairs... etc.... get it now you doofus?

 

Well you do now! (If your brain has turned on)

 

They don't act like Christians!

 

http://www.religioustolerance.org/cr_ident.htm

 

Hate and Christianity do not mix. It is that simple.

 

 

Doesn't matter. Like I said, anything taken out of context can say whatever. I don't care. I doesn't make it Christian.

 

YES, THERE ARE SO MANY TERRORIST ATTACKS ON THE MIDDLE EAST BY CHRISTIAN FUNDAMENTALISTS. You're stupidity makes me sick! I should have left you on my "ignore list"

 

But at least your trying to make sense... I'll graduate you to the rank of "Stupidamoeba"

 

Islamic terrorists go against the teachings of Islam as much as groups like the Aryan nation go against the teachings of Christianity. I have no problem with people following Islam or Christianity, but I do have problems with people using their religion to justify violence and murder. Whether you want to admit it or not, people in the Christian Identity hate groups BELIEVE they are Christian. They spread their hateful message IN THE NAME OF THE CHRISTIAN GOD. You claim that Islam is a religion of violence, yet a Muslim can say the same of Christianity with just as much proof, just as much conviction, and can be just as right or wrong depending on your viewpoint.

 

Actions, actions, actions. Through history, from its founding to modern day, Christianity has commited violent ACTIONS, preached violence, and spread hateful messages. If it looks violent, sounds violent, and acts violent, then it is violent, atleast according to you.

 

Hate and Christianity mix just as well as hate and any other religion. The crusades, the inquisitions, and hate groups like the Aryan Nation have proved this.

 

Doesn't matter. Like I said, anything taken out of context can say whatever. I don't care. I doesn't make it Christian.

 

Which is what I've been saying all along about Islam, but you seem to think that only your religion should benefit from the positive aspects of things, while every other religion is subject to the negative. You take Islamic texts out of context, and twist them to mean something violent. I can do the same to Christian texts.

 

Worse, there are terrorist attacks by these Christian hate groups on THEIR OWN SOIL, against Gays, Jews, Wiccans, and anyone else who doesn't adhere exactly to their beliefs. Ask around, I can garuntee there isn't a single Homosexual out there who hasn't been harrassed, or beaten up, or even threatened by assholes like the Aryan nation. The same goes for Jews, Wiccans, Muslims, and any other minority you can think of.

 

I've had enough of your "Violence goes against Christian doctrine, but is commited in fulfillment of Islamic doctrine." Violence goes against, and towards Islamic teachings just as much as Christian teachings. Just because you say it doesn't, and maybe even convince yourself to believe it doesn't, doesn't mean it isn't true.