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[ALLAH IS GREAT]

MRIH,I know christianity doesn't condone violence and the people who commit crimes go against the teachings of christianity.Sorry I'm not a fan of lying just to make people agree with me.I really don't understand why you're such a liar and why you are so hypocritical.The Qu'ran has spoken against any violence against innocent people.

 

''Because of that,We ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder,or to spread mischief in the land-It would be as if he killed all mankind,and if anyone saved a life,it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind.And indeed, there came to them clear proofs,evidences and signs,even then after that many of them continued to exceed the limits in the land.'' 6:32

 

So tell me MRIH which verses in the Qu'ran that advise people to kill, mame, destroy... wage war, kill apostates, behead infidels???

 

And you keep claiming that Islam tells us to kill anyone that doesn't convert,again provide your proof.

even the Prophet Muhammed(pbuh) was given good instructions:

 

''Invite(mankind,O Muhammed(pbuh) to the way of your Lord with wisdom and fair preaching,and argue with them in a way that is better.Truly, your Lord knows best who has gone astray from His path,and He is the Best Aware of those who are guided.''

 

''And if you punish(your enemy,O you believers in the Oneness of Allah),then punish them with the like of that which you were afflicted.But if you endure patiently,verily,it is better for As-Sabirun(the patient).''

 

''And endure you patiently(O Muhammed(pbuh),your patience is not but from Allah.And grieve not over them,and be not distressed because of what they plot.'' 16:125-127

 

And there are many many more....

MRIH,stop lying,coz i know lying is a big sin in christianity.

[Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell]

MRIH,I know christianity doesn't condone violence and the people who commit crimes go against the teachings of christianity.Sorry I'm not a fan of lying just to make people agree with me.I really don't understand why you're such a liar and why you are so hypocritical.The Qu'ran has spoken against any violence against innocent people.

 

''Because of that,We ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder,or to spread mischief in the land-It would be as if he killed all mankind,and if anyone saved a life,it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind.And indeed, there came to them clear proofs,evidences and signs,even then after that many of them continued to exceed the limits in the land.'' 6:32

 

So tell me MRIH which verses in the Qu'ran that advise people to kill, mame, destroy... wage war, kill apostates, behead infidels???

 

And you keep claiming that Islam tells us to kill anyone that doesn't convert,again provide your proof.

even the Prophet Muhammed(pbuh) was given good instructions:

 

''Invite(mankind,O Muhammed(pbuh) to the way of your Lord with wisdom and fair preaching,and argue with them in a way that is better.Truly, your Lord knows best who has gone astray from His path,and He is the Best Aware of those who are guided.''

 

''And if you punish(your enemy,O you believers in the Oneness of Allah),then punish them with the like of that which you were afflicted.But if you endure patiently,verily,it is better for As-Sabirun(the patient).''

 

''And endure you patiently(O Muhammed(pbuh),your patience is not but from Allah.And grieve not over them,and be not distressed because of what they plot.'' 16:125-127

 

And there are many many more....

MRIH,stop lying,coz i know lying is a big sin in christianity.

 

OK Fine, AIG... explain these away.

 

4:74 - Therefore let those fight in the way of Allah, who sell this world's life for the hereafter; and whoever fights in the way of Allah, then be he slain or be he victorious, We shall grant him a mighty reward.

 

9:111 - Surely Allah has bought of the believers their persons and their property for this, that they shall have the garden; they fight in Allah's way, so they slay and are slain; a promise which is binding on Him in the Taurat and the Injeel and the Quran; and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? Rejoice therefore in the pledge which you have made; and that is the mighty achievement.

 

9:123 - O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).

 

47:4 - So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners, and afterwards either set them free as a favor or let them ransom (themselves) until the war terminates. That (shall be so); and if Allah had pleased He would certainly have exacted what is due from them, but that He may try some of you by means of others; and (as for) those who are slain in the way of Allah, He will by no means allow their deeds to perish.

 

48:29 - Muhammad is the Apostle of Allah, and those with him are firm of heart against the unbelievers, compassionate among themselves; you will see them bowing down, prostrating themselves, seeking grace from Allah and pleasure; their marks are in their faces because of the effect of prostration; that is their description in the Taurat and their description in the Injeel; like as seed-produce that puts forth its sprout, then strengthens it, so it becomes stout and stands firmly on its stem, delighting the sowers that He may enrage the unbelievers on account of them; Allah has promised those among them who believe and do good, forgiveness and a great reward.

 

66:9 - O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites, and be hard against them; and their abode is hell; and evil is the resort.

 

 

When your done, I have a whole lot more!

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Oh for stupidity's sake...

 

"My fictional book says 'peace & blah blah blah', and even though the mullah people who claim to be 'experts' on my fictional book, support horrible acts in the name of my fictional book, those people really don't represent my fictional book... My fictional book is perfect and yours is shit. My fictional book is about the love of peace and those morons who only speak Arabic and chant 'Allah Hu Akhbar' while killing innocent people; well they aren't really followers of my fictional book. Your fictional book is shit."

 

But then...

 

"No, my fictional book is filled with the way the truth and the light. Yours is pig shit. My fictional book contains the stories of God who has to come here via the virgin birth canal of Mary so that he can be like a shamrock, 'small, green and in three pieces'. My fictional God is so kick ass that he allowed himself to BE KILLED so that he could rise from the dead to cleanse the world of all of its sin. Your fictional book talks of a pedophile camel fucker. Your fictional book is shit."

 

"Explain blah blah blah in your fictional book why don't you..."

 

"No, you explain blah blah blah in your fictional book why don't you..."

 

"Your fictional book is shit."

 

"Your fictional book is camel vomit."

 

Blah blah blah...

 

News flash Both of your books are works of fiction.

[ALLAH IS GREAT]

OK Fine, AIG... explain these away.

 

4:74 - Therefore let those fight in the way of Allah, who sell this world's life for the hereafter; and whoever fights in the way of Allah, then be he slain or be he victorious, We shall grant him a mighty reward.

 

9:111 - Surely Allah has bought of the believers their persons and their property for this, that they shall have the garden; they fight in Allah's way, so they slay and are slain; a promise which is binding on Him in the Taurat and the Injeel and the Quran; and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? Rejoice therefore in the pledge which you have made; and that is the mighty achievement.

 

9:123 - O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).

 

47:4 - So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners, and afterwards either set them free as a favor or let them ransom (themselves) until the war terminates. That (shall be so); and if Allah had pleased He would certainly have exacted what is due from them, but that He may try some of you by means of others; and (as for) those who are slain in the way of Allah, He will by no means allow their deeds to perish.

 

48:29 - Muhammad is the Apostle of Allah, and those with him are firm of heart against the unbelievers, compassionate among themselves; you will see them bowing down, prostrating themselves, seeking grace from Allah and pleasure; their marks are in their faces because of the effect of prostration; that is their description in the Taurat and their description in the Injeel; like as seed-produce that puts forth its sprout, then strengthens it, so it becomes stout and stands firmly on its stem, delighting the sowers that He may enrage the unbelievers on account of them; Allah has promised those among them who believe and do good, forgiveness and a great reward.

 

66:9 - O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites, and be hard against them; and their abode is hell; and evil is the resort.

 

 

When your done, I have a whole lot more!

 

MRIH,you keep presenting these same verses,and it was explained to you over and over.These verses were sent down to the Prophet(pbuh) when they were thrown out of Macca,tortured and their property taken and sold.Allah sent these verses down to tell them they have the right to fight back and fight for their land.I see no problem with that.

 

This verse you posted explains alot:''So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners, and afterwards either set them free as a favor or let them ransom (themselves) until the war terminates. ''

 

Key words when you meet in war.The non-muslims used to kill prisoners.but the muslims either set them free or ransomed them.MRIH,it does not say anywhere in the Qu'ran kill innocent people,blow yourselves up.You have this belief that we are told to attack any non-muslim on the street.That's ridiculous,we would be sinning if we killed innocent people and death would be our rightful punishment if we did so.

[Spleefman]

Well...as I said before. We can all call each other names, say our religion is better than your religion, or your's is crap and mine is real, or your book sucks, and mine dosen't.

 

The simple fact is none of us will have the proof until we drop dead. At that point, the whole argument is a moot point anyway. Which is exactly why I feel everybody should strive to get along the best we can, because when it all comes down to it....some belief or non-belief is right, and everybody else is wrong! We might get Koudos in the "life-hereafter" for not being a jerk to everyone that did not think like us.

 

We all must find something that brings us comfort, ease, and hope. Some find it through Allah, some find it through Jehova.

 

Some find it in the bottom of a bottle, some find it through a big fat joint.

 

It dosen't really matter as long as no one hurts someone else.

 

In both religions, Christiananity and Islam, people have been and still do continue to be hurt and or killed. However, you have to blame it on the buttholes that are practicing these acts, and not the religion.

 

There are plenty of verses in the Holy Bible that instruct severe punishment for some "sins", and also acts of war to honor God, etc. We all know the Qu'ran has these as well. As an evolving society, people with an itellectual level just above that of a third grader should be able to decipher the positive from the negative. In doing this, peace could actually be achieved between religions and cultures.

 

However, today's society lives by a "my dick is bigger than your's" mentality. It's always a contest as to who's right or wrong, instead of a society trying to live in peace and understanding.

 

As in the famous words of that idiot who got his ass kicked in front of the world...."Can't we all just get along?"

[Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell]

MRIH,you keep presenting these same verses,

Does that make them good? What the fuck is wrong with you... these are the satanic verses ALL OF FUCKING ISLAM uses to justify their fucking killing of us. eat shit and die if the truth bugs you.

 

and it was explained to you over and over.These verses were sent down to the Prophet(pbuh) when they were thrown out of Macca,tortured and their property taken and sold.Allah sent these verses down to tell them they have the right to fight back and fight for their land.I see no problem with that.

It doesn't matter where when or how the pig shit was dropped on the pedophile prophet(may piss be upon him)... The damn book says what it says. UBL agrees with me! You asked me to show you where the koran commands its followers to kill apostates and behead infidels... here it is plain and simple. Don't ask for proof, then recieve the truth, then simply say that you've seen the proof before. So when the pig-shit book commands you to "...smite the necks until when you have overcome them..." you're really not supposed to do it! .... I wish someone would tell the rest of you fucks that!

 

This verse you posted explains alot:''So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners, and afterwards either set them free as a favor or let them ransom (themselves) until the war terminates. ''

Yes, it basically says "behead the disbelievers".

 

Key words when you meet in war.

Are we to ignore the "those who disbelieve". I guess when you are to do the same to the believers should you meet in battle? I like your interpretation, though I read something totally different. If all you fucks read it the way you do then It'd be an OK religion (I guess)

 

The non-muslims used to kill prisoners.but the muslims either set them free or ransomed them.MRIH,it does not say anywhere in the Qu'ran kill innocent people,blow yourselves up.You have this belief that we are told to attack any non-muslim on the street.That's ridiculous,we would be sinning if we killed innocent people and death would be our rightful punishment if we did so.

AIG, please get off of your high-horse and explain this "fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness" Don't give me your "allah sent this to my pedophile prophet(may piss be upon him) before the we massacred the jews" bull shit, because it doesn't matter when it was defecated onto the world, it matters what it says and how millions of pig-shit worshippers interpret it. I want to know why you claim this to really mean "[live in peace around] those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you [peace and joy]"

[Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell]

Well...as I said before. We can all call each other names, say our religion is better than your religion, or your's is crap and mine is real, or your book sucks, and mine dosen't.

Spleef, I agree 100%... That's why you don't see me writing about budhists, hindus, jews, satanists or atheists... but this fucking islam teaches its followers to murder and wage war! I draw the line at that!

 

The simple fact is none of us will have the proof until we drop dead. At that point, the whole argument is a moot point anyway. Which is exactly why I feel everybody should strive to get along the best we can, because when it all comes down to it....some belief or non-belief is right, and everybody else is wrong! We might get Koudos in the "life-hereafter" for not being a jerk to everyone that did not think like us.

again, we find ourselves in agreement, however islam is a huge exception... "convert or die" is not a peaceful religion.

 

We all must find something that brings us comfort, ease, and hope. Some find it through Allah, some find it through Jehova.

and some find it through murder, terrorism and genocide!

 

Some find it in the bottom of a bottle, some find it through a big fat joint.

some find it with both! I prefer the spleefs!

 

It dosen't really matter as long as no one hurts someone else.

Now you're talking!

 

In both religions, Christiananity and Islam, people have been and still do continue to be hurt and or killed. However, you have to blame it on the buttholes that are practicing these acts, and not the religion.

Even when the religion itself says "Muhammad is the Apostle of Allah, and those with him are firm of heart against the unbelievers" and the vast majority of the followers of said religion turn into buttholes and interpret this to mean physically fight infidels?

 

There are plenty of verses in the Holy Bible that instruct severe punishment for some "sins", and also acts of war to honor God, etc.

Jesus never taught violence, vengence, retribution, warfare... Is it in the bible, sure, but they are not the teachings of Christianity!

 

We all know the Qu'ran has these as well. As an evolving society, people with an itellectual level just above that of a third grader should be able to decipher the positive from the negative. In doing this, peace could actually be achieved between religions and cultures.

Don't bank on it! Islam is incompatible with any other religion.. they attack Jews, Christians, Budhists, Hindus and Atheists at every corner.

 

However, today's society lives by a "my dick is bigger than your's" mentality. It's always a contest as to who's right or wrong, instead of a society trying to live in peace and understanding.

I'm all for it... when will islam be ready for it?

 

As in the famous words of that idiot who got his ass kicked in front of the world...."Can't we all just get along?"

beautifiul sentiment, but unrealistic as long as islam is around.

[Spleefman]

Thanks for the critique line by line MRIH.......Man!

 

I have a beautiful John Lennon moment....and you have to get all literal on me!

[ALLAH IS GREAT]

Does that make them good? What the fuck is wrong with you... these are the satanic verses ALL OF FUCKING ISLAM uses to justify their fucking killing of us. eat shit and die if the truth bugs you.

 

Damn,you're so lucky,coz I'm not going to insult your religion blindly.And you keep saying Jesus teaches us to be good and love,well fuckin' listen to him and act like a christian.Coz i've never met a ''christian'' like you.

 

It doesn't matter where when or how the pig shit was dropped on the pedophile prophet(may piss be upon him)... The damn book says what it says. UBL agrees with me! You asked me to show you where the koran commands its followers to kill apostates and behead infidels... here it is plain and simple. Don't ask for proof, then recieve the truth, then simply say that you've seen the proof before. So when the pig-shit book commands you to "...smite the necks until when you have overcome them..." you're really not supposed to do it! .... I wish someone would tell the rest of you fucks that!

 

You throw out the reasons behind this and all the good parts.Listen carefully,If I had lived at that time and those fuckers exiled me from my home and tortured me,I would fuckin' get out a machete and kill them.They deserved to die coz they killed.But you seem to close your ears to this.

 

 

Yes, it basically says "behead the disbelievers".

 

No asshole it says when you meet the dis-believers in battle.Why you makin' an issue of this.The past was full of religious wars.You still haven't explained your christian brothers raising the crusades and breaking the peace.Was that acceptable?

 

Are we to ignore the "those who disbelieve". I guess when you are to do the same to the believers should you meet in battle? I like your interpretation, though I read something totally different. If all you fucks read it the way you do then It'd be an OK religion (I guess)

 

Stop putting words in my mouth,you lying piece of shit!!

 

AIG, please get off of your high-horse and explain this "fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness" Don't give me your "allah sent this to my pedophile prophet(may piss be upon him) before the we massacred the jews" bull shit, because it doesn't matter when it was defecated onto the world, it matters what it says and how millions of pig-shit worshippers interpret it. I want to know why you claim this to really mean live in peace around] those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you peace and joy''.

 

The Qu'ran says that kill only in retaliation to murder.Unlike the bible,the Qu'ran does not contradict itself.The rule is,an eye for an eye.So I don't think this means kill innocent people on their way to work!!!

[ALLAH IS GREAT]

"...if anyone slew a person unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if anyone saved a life it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people." Qur'an 5: 32

 

"...take not life which Allah has made sacred except by way of justice and law: thus does He command you..." Qur'an 6: 151

 

"O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female and made you into nations and tribes that you may know each other (not that you may despise each other). Verily the most honored of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you..." Qur'an 49: 13

 

For those Muslims who read or know the above but follow not :

 

"Nor be of those who reject the Signs of Allah or you shall be of those who perish." Qur'an10:95

 

On the issue of defending oneself against insolent transgressions and oppressions beyond bounds, Allah commands :

 

"But indeed if any do help and defend themselves after a wrong (done) to them against such there is no cause of blame. The blame is only against those who oppress men with wrong-doing and insolently transgress beyond bounds through the land defying right and justice: for such there will be a Penalty grievous." Qur'an 42: 41-42

 

 

Apart from this, for a Muslim...NOTHING else and no other texts or speeches should matter... PERIOD.

 

Upon seeing a woman killed in the battlefield, the Prophet Muhammad denounced the act: "She should never have been killed" warning against killing women, children and the elderly. The Prophet's Companions followed his noble tradition, ordering their armies never to touch women, children or the elderly and never to use force against recluse monks, farmers or merchants.

 

"Do not start the fight, do not mangle [the enemies' corpses], do not uproot trees, do not demolish houses, do not slay sheep or cows save for eating" was the order given to Muslim armies on the way to the battlefield.

 

Islam holds the human soul in high esteem, and considers an attack against innocent human beings a grave sin.

[Spleefman]

Such a shame...a good John Lennon moment lost between the posts of bitterness and anger.

 

Personally...I think these two really dig each other!

[ALLAH IS GREAT]

again, we find ourselves in agreement, however islam is a huge exception... "convert or die" is not a peaceful religion.

 

MRIH,this allegation is getting boring.No-one can force anyone to believe.

Where do you get this from? The people in the past accepted Islam coz they saw truth in it.Faith comes from within.What you believe inside is the only thing that matters.So I don't think anyone can force you.

 

I've already posted this link somewhere.These are christians,atheists and hindus that converted into Islam,and they were not forced.There were non-muslims listening in the audience and one of them gets on the stage and says the Shahada(there is no other God except Allah and Muhammed is His messanger).No-one forced him to get up.So I suggest you watch the videos of the converts and you'll see they are happy and comfortable with Islam.

 

http://www.lightuponlight.com/islam/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=61

[ALLAH IS GREAT]

Such a shame...a good John Lennon moment lost between the posts of bitterness and anger.

 

Personally...I think these two really dig each other!

 

Hey I'm all up for peace,but it's your fellow ''christian'' here that can't seem to stop sputing hate and lies.

And I don't dig him.I hate liars and haters.

You've changed,so I dig you.

 

ps: Come on people,Crazy Wumbat doesn't deserve the Idiot box.Sorry CW,I guess this is what you get for not hating muslims with all your heart.

[Spleefman]

Let's be clear AIG...I still do not "trust" the practitioners of Islam in whole. I will however not pass out judgements of all who practice Islam. I realize that not all of Islamic followers support terrorism.

 

Then again I do not trust Baptists either!

 

I just have changed the way I used to condemn ALL of Islamic followers.

 

I can understand MRIH's anger and disgust, because I feel that way everytime I hear of suicide bombers blowing up innocent life. Whether it be Americans, Iraqi's, Jews....whatever.

 

I still have my battles with this. I do however hold any judgement to a whole group of people, due in fact that I am not supposed to do that as a christian, and I don't want that done to me ....ie, Not all Christians are dumb in-bred hillbillies that watch Robert Tilton, or ......not all christians are rich Republican, judgemental fucks who think their religion is better than everybody else's.

[Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell]

Damn,you're so lucky,coz I'm not going to insult your religion blindly.

Lucky! I oughta hit the track today! What a conceited moron you are, to think I'm lucky you aren't gonna spew your pig-shit all over your keyboard! Go make yourself useful and suck a dick!

 

And you keep saying Jesus teaches us to be good and love,well fuckin' listen to him and act like a christian.Coz i've never met a ''christian'' like you.

Just exactly what is it your tiny little brain thinks I should do?

 

You throw out the reasons behind this and all the good parts.

GET IT THREW YOUR THICK SKULL!!!!! If you pig-shit worshippers would ignore the bad parts the rest of us would too!

 

Listen carefully,If I had lived at that time and those fuckers exiled me from my home and tortured me,I would fuckin' get out a machete and kill them.They deserved to die coz they killed.But you seem to close your ears to this.

Of course you would! You're muslim and have been trained to hate and kill... no surprise here!

 

BTW... who are you to decide who should live and who should die? I thought only God had that right? Of course for the islamist, Allah is too weak, scared or lazy to do his own ethnic cleansing, so ya'll have to do it for him.

 

No asshole it says when you meet the dis-believers in battle.

No asshole, it says behead them.

 

Why you makin' an issue of this.

Because I don't want to be beheaded, and I damn sure don't want to convert!

 

The past was full of religious wars.

So is the present if you count islam!

 

You still haven't explained your christian brothers raising the crusades and breaking the peace.Was that acceptable?

I don't hjave to, the moors invaded the iberian peninsula in 900AD a full 200 years before the first crusade... The first crusade was called to defend the Christian Byzantines from muslim invaders... Peace was never broken because since islam was shit onto this planet, it has not seen one moment of peace!

 

Stop putting words in my mouth,you lying piece of shit!!

Did you not say that islam is peaceful... that's all I said you said... I'd rather you tell thge truth anyway, STOP BEING STUPID... or you'll go back to the idiot box along with your buddy Stupidamoeba!

 

The Qu'ran says that kill only in retaliation to murder.Unlike the bible,the Qu'ran does not contradict itself.The rule is,an eye for an eye.So I don't think this means kill innocent people on their way to work!!!

 

That is one reason, others are:

Kill the apostates.

Kill the unbelievers.

there are probably more, like kill the homosexuals; kill the adulterers; etc, etc. I don't really care.

[TerroristHater]

Wumbat,

 

Ir regard to the following: "Now I'm no expert on Christianity, but "Pastor" is a Christin title, is it not?" I felt the need to explain some things.

 

1.) Anybody with a positive bank balance and an address can send away for a certificate declaring them a "Pastor" or "Minister" or whatever.

 

The fact that a group known for racial hate has a slew of members calling themselves pastors does not mean that much. I could send a picture of my dog to these places, and as long as I remember to enclose a check, a package will come in the mail giving my dog the right to call himself "Pastor" Butch.

 

Lets not get hung up on titles

 

 

Cheers!

[Spleefman]

Pastor Spleef....I like the "ring" to it!

[Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell]

Wumbat,

 

Ir regard to the following: "Now I'm no expert on Christianity, but "Pastor" is a Christin title, is it not?" I felt the need to explain some things.

 

1.) Anybody with a positive bank balance and an address can send away for a certificate declaring them a "Pastor" or "Minister" or whatever.

 

The fact that a group known for racial hate has a slew of members calling themselves pastors does not mean that much. I could send a picture of my dog to these places, and as long as I remember to enclose a check, a package will come in the mail giving my dog the right to call himself "Pastor" Butch.

 

Lets not get hung up on titles

 

 

Cheers!

This is why Stupidamoeba deserves the idiot box!

[Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell]

Correction: one of the many reasons!

[Crazywumbat]

Wumbat,

 

Ir regard to the following: "Now I'm no expert on Christianity, but "Pastor" is a Christin title, is it not?" I felt the need to explain some things.

 

1.) Anybody with a positive bank balance and an address can send away for a certificate declaring them a "Pastor" or "Minister" or whatever.

 

The fact that a group known for racial hate has a slew of members calling themselves pastors does not mean that much. I could send a picture of my dog to these places, and as long as I remember to enclose a check, a package will come in the mail giving my dog the right to call himself "Pastor" Butch.

 

Lets not get hung up on titles

 

 

Cheers!

 

 

That doesn't matter. What does matter is that these people CLAIM they are Christian, they BELIEVE they are Christian, and whether you would like to admit it or not they ARE christian. They are a Christian hate group, plain and fucking simple, and nothing you, or anyone else, can say will change that FACT.

 

This is why Stupidamoeba deserves the idiot box!

 

Ok, if I'm such an idiot, how about responding to my last post instead of resorting to name-calling? With someone of your superior intellect, it obviously won't be hard to disprove what I said, so why havn''t you attempted to yet? Did what I say make too much sense to you?

[ALLAH IS GREAT]

Lucky! I oughta hit the track today! What a conceited moron you are, to think I'm lucky you aren't gonna spew your pig-shit all over your keyboard! Go make yourself useful and suck a dick!

Yeah only you are allowed to spew your shit on your keyboard.I won't insult christianity because some no good ''christian'' like yourself is advising people to join his hate campaign.

I'll just sit back and not generalize,you're the expert on that.I do have a new respect for Spleef,so I'll respect his religion not yours(whatever it is you follow and learn from).

 

Just exactly what is it your tiny little brain thinks I should do?

Try to tone down your hatred.It would make a huge difference to your rubbish character!!

 

GET IT THREW YOUR THICK SKULL!!!!! If you pig-shit worshippers would ignore the bad parts the rest of us would too!

Honey,there are no bad parts! Only the ones you've made up!

 

Of course you would! You're muslim and have been trained to hate and kill... no surprise here!

Yes MRIH sigh ,I'm trained to kill. I'm sorry people,I give up with this lost cause!

 

BTW... who are you to decide who should live and who should die? I thought only God had that right? Of course for the islamist, Allah is too weak, scared or lazy to do his own ethnic cleansing, so ya'll have to do it for him.

Yes,Allah has decided murderers should be murdered.It's called justice asshole!!Are you trying to feed us the bullshit that if you were tortured you would''turn the other cheek''?

 

No asshole, it says behead them.

No asshole,read the first line,it says when you meet the disbelievers in battle...I can go on with this forever asshole...people can see what the quote says,so stop being a dick!

 

Because I don't want to be beheaded, and I damn sure don't want to convert!

MRIH!LOOK OUT! A MACHETE IS HEADING RIGHT FOR YOUR NECK.Too late your head's rolling on the floor what a paranoid bitch!

 

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don't hjave to, the moors invaded the iberian peninsula in 900AD a full 200 years before the first crusade... The first crusade was called to defend the Christian Byzantines from muslim invaders... Peace was never broken because since islam was shit onto this planet, it has not seen one moment of peace!

No liar!! there was peace amongst the 3 religions(Islam,Christianity,Judaism),then your fellow christians raised the crusades!!!

 

Did you not say that islam is peaceful... that's all I said you said... I'd rather you tell thge truth anyway, STOP BEING STUPID... or you'll go back to the idiot box along with your buddy Stupidamoeba!

Truth! MRIH,truth doesn't come into your vocabulary!! I hope people are smart enough to get knowledge for themselves and not listen to a deluded hater who ''says'' he is a christian!!!

 

That is one reason, others are:

Kill the apostates.

Kill the unbelievers.

there are probably more, like kill the homosexuals; kill the adulterers; etc, etc. I don't really care.

That's your problem,you follow probability not fact. And we've already quoted what the bible advices on how to deal with adultresses.You know,the grewsome,''rip out their wombs'',Oh here I go again,GIVE ME THE BUCKET!!

[Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell]

I don't hjave to, the moors invaded the iberian peninsula in 900AD a full 200 years before the first crusade... The first crusade was called to defend the Christian Byzantines from muslim invaders... Peace was never broken because since islam was shit onto this planet, it has not seen one moment of peace!

 

No liar!! there was peace amongst the 3 religions(Islam,Christianity,Judaism),then your fellow christians raised the crusades!!!

 

AIG needs to go back into the idiot box PERMENANTLY !!!

[ALLAH IS GREAT]

AIG needs to go back into the idiot box PERMENANTLY !!!

 

Later Crusades

The first Crusaders crossed into Anatolia in 1097 and reached Jerusalem by the summer of 1099. The fighting was fierce, but the unsuspecting Muslims were no match for the bloodthirsty Crusaders, who killed not only fighting men, but also women and children. The victorious Crusaders established four colonies along the eastern Mediterranean including one in Jerusalem.

 

A second Crusade was launched when the Muslims recaptured one of the Christian colonies. This time the Muslims were prepared and defeated the Crusaders.

 

Saladin and the Muslim Recapture of Jerusalem

 

The Christians had recaptured the Holy Lands by the end of the second Crusade, but a Muslim general named Saladin launched a jihad that managed to recapture Jerusalem. Jihad is an Arabic word that means "struggle." Saladin was neither an Arab nor a Turk. He was Kurdish. The Kurds live between the Turks and Arabs in the mountainous lands of northern Iraq and eastern Turkey.

 

Saladin recaptured Jerusalem in 1187, prompting the Christians to launch a Third Crusade led by King Richard

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What peace?

 

The first crusade...

 

The rise of the Seljukian Turks, however, compromised the safety of pilgrims and even threatened the independence of the Byzantine Empire and of all Christendom. In 1070 Jerusalem was taken, and in 1091 Diogenes, the Greek emperor, was defeated and made captive at Mantzikert. Asia Minor and all of Syria became the prey of the Turks. Antioch succumbed in 1084, and by 1092 not one of the great metropolitan sees of Asia remained in the possession of the Christians. Although separated from the communion of Rome since the schism of Michael C

[Crazywumbat]

Islamic terrorists go against the teachings of Islam as much as groups like the Aryan nation go against the teachings of Christianity. I have no problem with people following Islam or Christianity, but I do have problems with people using their religion to justify violence and murder. Whether you want to admit it or not, people in the Christian Identity hate groups BELIEVE they are Christian. They spread their hateful message IN THE NAME OF THE CHRISTIAN GOD. You claim that Islam is a religion of violence, yet a Muslim can say the same of Christianity with just as much proof, just as much conviction, and can be just as right or wrong depending on your viewpoint.

 

Actions, actions, actions. Through history, from its founding to modern day, Christianity has commited violent ACTIONS, preached violence, and spread hateful messages. If it looks violent, sounds violent, and acts violent, then it is violent, atleast according to you.

 

Hate and Christianity mix just as well as hate and any other religion. The crusades, the inquisitions, and hate groups like the Aryan Nation have proved this.

 

 

 

Which is what I've been saying all along about Islam, but you seem to think that only your religion should benefit from the positive aspects of things, while every other religion is subject to the negative. You take Islamic texts out of context, and twist them to mean something violent. I can do the same to Christian texts.

 

Worse, there are terrorist attacks by these Christian hate groups on THEIR OWN SOIL, against Gays, Jews, Wiccans, and anyone else who doesn't adhere exactly to their beliefs. Ask around, I can garuntee there isn't a single Homosexual out there who hasn't been harrassed, or beaten up, or even threatened by assholes like the Aryan nation. The same goes for Jews, Wiccans, Muslims, and any other minority you can think of.

 

I've had enough of your "Violence goes against Christian doctrine, but is commited in fulfillment of Islamic doctrine." Violence goes against, and towards Islamic teachings just as much as Christian teachings. Just because you say it doesn't, and maybe even convince yourself to believe it doesn't, doesn't mean it isn't true.

 

Still waiting for your reply MRIH, anytime now...anytime now...