Tracker Posted July 27, 2005 Posted July 27, 2005 Muslims out there - please explain. Perhaps I am not fully informed. What I have read and heard is that you have to pray five times a day. Is that true? What the heck, is 'your' God hard of hearing or what? Does this make sense to you - REALLY? If this is true what in your "Qu'ran" says that this is the way? Please quote the exact passage or whatever that says this must be done. It seems so ridiculous to me . Help me understand. Quote
jokersarewild Posted July 27, 2005 Posted July 27, 2005 http://www.allaboutturkey.com/pray.htm http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Five-Pillars-of-Islam It is part of the 5 pillars of Islam. From what I understand, you also have 12 different prayers to say each of the five times you pray. 60 prayers altogether. Wow... Quote RoyalOrleans is my real dad!
ArabChick Posted July 27, 2005 Posted July 27, 2005 Salaam Tracker Salah:Prayer, worship of Allah. Muslims must perform salah 5 times a day. Before Salah, Muslims prepare themselves by performing Wudu (Ablution) which involves cleaning the hands, face, arms, head and feet here is a good link! http://thetruereligion.org Allah has ordered the Muslims to pray the five daily prayers (salat). It is something obligatory for every Muslim male and female. There are many virtues and benefits of the prayers. Among these benefits is that the prayer is obedience to Allah. When a Muslim obeys Allah and His Messenger Muhammad (sallAllaahu 'alayhi wa sallam), Allah in turn shows mercy to that person. In the Qur'an, Allaah says: "And obey All Quote Queen Of Arabia
Vortex Posted July 27, 2005 Posted July 27, 2005 Allah has ordered the Muslims to pray the five daily prayers (salat). Now not to belittle you...but a religion that "orders" you to do something, no matter how mundane, seems a bit extreme! doesnt it? Quote -I don't know about you...but I am SICK and tired of being nice and understanding!!! -The Liver is evil and must be punished! -The Early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese. How can your opinion be the correct one....if, infact, its only an opinion?!?!
Master_Jaffer Posted July 27, 2005 Posted July 27, 2005 Now not to belittle you...but a religion that "orders" you to do something, no matter how mundane, seems a bit extreme! doesnt it? No, not at all. The five prayers: Fajr (2 raka-a) Thuhur (4) Asr (4) Magrhib (3) I'isha (4) 2 + 4 + 4 + 3 + 4 = 17. It takes about 100 seconds per raka-a (I guess you could call it a "round."), so less than 30 minutes a day praying. Besides, by sunnah, we do six (one before going to sleep after I'isha.) There are also sunnahs after the prayers, which would bring it up to 1 hour total. Still not "extreme." Your worshipping GOD, for heavens sake, how could you worship him too much? The reasoning behind five prayers a day? Well, it keeps the weak believers out, because only a strong believer would set aside 30 - 60 minutes of their day for prayers, two hours on Fridays. Quote Muslim, and proud of it.
ALLAH IS GREAT Posted July 27, 2005 Posted July 27, 2005 Salah(prayer) is the 2nd and most important pillar of Islam. The second you say the 1st Kalima(there is no God but Allah), salah is mandatory on every Muslim. There are no excuses, not even when you are ill, on a journey or even in war. Allah (s.w.t.) has said in the Holy Qur Quote 'They intend to put out the Light of Allah with their mouths.But Allah will bring His Light to perfection even though the disbelievers hate it' ''Oh Allah!Make the best of my deeds my last deeds, and make the best of my life my last moments, and make the best day of my life the Day I meet You!''
Kryptonite Man Posted July 27, 2005 Posted July 27, 2005 AIG: Let me put it this way: When you locked horns with Hugh, you got OWNED!!!! Put another way, you were Alderaan and Hugh was THE DEATH STAR!!!! Quote I'm a liberal's worst nightmare. A black man with a brain!
Komrade Vostok Hazard Posted July 27, 2005 Posted July 27, 2005 It seems that this god likes to punish people left right and center. And praying gets you away from from evil? I KNOW HOW THAT WORKS! People are too busy praying to do anything worthwhile, and according to 100% of all religions worthwhile always = evil. This guy must be some kind of egomanic for him to want people to pray to him five times a day just because he created them. I DONT SEE FARMERS DEMANDING THAT THEIR CROPS PRAY TO THEM BECAUSE THEY GREW THEM Quote All bullshit, No Business.
Vortex Posted July 27, 2005 Posted July 27, 2005 Besides, by sunnah, we do six (one before going to sleep after I'isha.) There are also sunnahs after the prayers, which would bring it up to 1 hour total. Still not "extreme." Your worshipping GOD, for heavens sake, how could you worship him too much? I guess when a god has automatically cast you down you may think these extreme...so its a concept ill never grasp. But if you truely do that then i guess good for you!...I just cant fathom it and woulda been cast out because to me its a big waste of time (key words to me). Sides i woulda been cast out long before i wouldnt do that much praying, obviously! Quote -I don't know about you...but I am SICK and tired of being nice and understanding!!! -The Liver is evil and must be punished! -The Early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese. How can your opinion be the correct one....if, infact, its only an opinion?!?!
ALLAH IS GREAT Posted July 28, 2005 Posted July 28, 2005 I DONT SEE FARMERS DEMANDING THAT THEIR CROPS PRAY TO THEM BECAUSE THEY GREW THEM See you'll never understand.We should be grateful for everything we have. And I don't think farmers would demand crops to pray to them,if they do that then they have serious phsycological issues.This was a bad example,we ain't the same as plants.We have the ability to think and do actions,and we were lucky to be created.If God gives us everything we have,then why's taking 30 minutes of your time each day to thank Him such a bad thing? Quote 'They intend to put out the Light of Allah with their mouths.But Allah will bring His Light to perfection even though the disbelievers hate it' ''Oh Allah!Make the best of my deeds my last deeds, and make the best of my life my last moments, and make the best day of my life the Day I meet You!''
fullauto Posted July 28, 2005 Posted July 28, 2005 We will never understand... we demand proof and seek truth, so we will never understand... Quote Liberals... Saving the world one semester at a time "I'm not a racist... I'm a realist! And if you don't know the difference, You're an Idiot!" -- Fullauto Present - 1. (Noun) The point that divides disappointment from hope
OmegaManiac Posted July 28, 2005 Posted July 28, 2005 Wow, this is really interesting....................zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Quote
phreakwars Posted July 28, 2005 Posted July 28, 2005 Wow, this is really interesting....................zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Not to mention kind of a lame post. So Muslims pray 5 times a day...big deal... anybody offended ?? Is there any reason they SHOULDN'T ?? I think it has been answered already WHY they do it, I guess my next question would be... Why question it ?? . . Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars
bluPheonix Posted July 28, 2005 Posted July 28, 2005 See you'll never understand.We should be grateful for everything we have. yea man,greatful, for all the good things....... Global warming, the mafia, street gangs, handguns,child molestors, corperate greed, dubya, polloution, britney spears, heroin, suicide bombers, people who dress their kids like whores, nukes, corruption, murder, torture, getting your wang caught in your zipper, 13 year old mothers, salad forks, the NRA, Karl Rove, war, nazis, meth, jim jones, jimmy swagart, wako, sept 11, the IrA, london bombings, spain, egypt, IRAQ, vietnam, korea. and on, and on........ yea,God bless us, everyone. Quote
Tracker Posted July 28, 2005 Author Posted July 28, 2005 Allah (s.w.t.) has said in the Holy Qur Quote
Tracker Posted July 28, 2005 Author Posted July 28, 2005 Salaam Tracker Allah's mercy is something we are all in need of because it is the only way we will be saved from His punishment. Oh my goodness! Is your God so mean that he will 'punish' you if you do not pray? What planet is he from. Sorry, but I don't get it! God is great, God is all forgiving. As long as we (all of us) live our lives to be the best we can be - why on earth would your God PUNISH you simply because you do not pray 5 times a day. Does he not recognize all the rest of your being? All the good you do? All he cares about is being worshipped? Sounds ridiculous to me. How can it not sound ridiculous to you? Quote
ALLAH IS GREAT Posted July 28, 2005 Posted July 28, 2005 Allah (s.w.t.) has said in the Holy Qur Quote 'They intend to put out the Light of Allah with their mouths.But Allah will bring His Light to perfection even though the disbelievers hate it' ''Oh Allah!Make the best of my deeds my last deeds, and make the best of my life my last moments, and make the best day of my life the Day I meet You!''
Komrade Vostok Hazard Posted July 28, 2005 Posted July 28, 2005 why question it? because it makes these people look so obsessive it's scary. And it makes one wonder why these people tend to become extremist. Obsession can do that... Quote All bullshit, No Business.
ALLAH IS GREAT Posted July 28, 2005 Posted July 28, 2005 why question it? because it makes these people look so obsessive it's scary. And it makes one wonder why these people tend to become extremist. Obsession can do that... What?don't be stupid.It's not about obsession.There are millions of muslims that pray five times a day and are not extremists.Stop trying to use any excuse to say Islam makes people do this and that.It's just a religion.Whether you choose to follow it or not is up to you.And enough of the bullshit that you'll get killed if you don't convert.Damn,what levels people will go to just to make others hate something along with them.It's what makes this world a bad place. ''why question it?''.It's not you doing the praying.So enjoy your life of aimless wandering!!! Quote 'They intend to put out the Light of Allah with their mouths.But Allah will bring His Light to perfection even though the disbelievers hate it' ''Oh Allah!Make the best of my deeds my last deeds, and make the best of my life my last moments, and make the best day of my life the Day I meet You!''
Komrade Vostok Hazard Posted July 28, 2005 Posted July 28, 2005 I'm not out to change anyone. I don't really care what you do or what other people believe, but hey, I still have my opinions and my opinion says that such devotion is a clear sign of obsession to a very unhealthy degree, and not to mention, something like praying five times a day is quite strange in my view so that's why I question it. I never said Islam is the cause of extremism and people doing this and that, I said obsession is a probable cause for extremism and people doing this and that. Oh and I never said anything about getting killed if you don't convert. Quote All bullshit, No Business.
ALLAH IS GREAT Posted July 29, 2005 Posted July 29, 2005 Oh and I never said anything about getting killed if you don't convert. Sorry,I know you didn't say this.The message was directed at the people who say it.(MRIH).This idiot will lie about anything. Quote 'They intend to put out the Light of Allah with their mouths.But Allah will bring His Light to perfection even though the disbelievers hate it' ''Oh Allah!Make the best of my deeds my last deeds, and make the best of my life my last moments, and make the best day of my life the Day I meet You!''
Thermite Wielding Troll Posted August 4, 2005 Posted August 4, 2005 See you'll never understand.We should be grateful for everything we have....If God gives us everything we have,then why's taking 30 minutes of your time each day to thank Him such a bad thing? Hey! Something we agree on! Don't get fuzzy about it, I'm sure it won't last.... Quote
Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell Posted August 4, 2005 Posted August 4, 2005 Sorry,I know you didn't say this.The message was directed at the people who say it.(MRIH).This idiot will lie about anything. or pay the jitza tax! --- is that a lie as well, dumbfuck? Quote The first amendment provides our constitution with its voice. The second amendment provides its teeth.
ALLAH IS GREAT Posted August 4, 2005 Posted August 4, 2005 or pay the jitza tax! --- is that a lie as well, dumbfuck? It's spelt as JIZYA dumbass.I already explained what the Jizya tax was. Quote 'They intend to put out the Light of Allah with their mouths.But Allah will bring His Light to perfection even though the disbelievers hate it' ''Oh Allah!Make the best of my deeds my last deeds, and make the best of my life my last moments, and make the best day of my life the Day I meet You!''
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