Statutory rape, or Marital Bliss ??

[tizz]

HEHE the better stories are those of the older brother OMG did he have issues. LOL

[skategreen]

HEHE the better stories are those of the older brother OMG did he have issues. LOL

 

Nawwwwwwwww... yer tag line, "I had to talk a mother out of having me arrested ..." .. is simply beautiful. I'd like to ...embroider that..yeah...mabye a sampler is in order...

with borders of ivy and violets..

 

hmm..where's my crewel work?

[tizz]

LOL What kind of flowers would border that one? LMFAO

[ImWithStupid]

O.K. but here's another angle to look at... how they got married in the first damn place..

 

They went to the State below Nebraska, KANSAS, where evidently, there is a law in this state permitting a 14 year old to be married with parental consent.

 

Now, if NEBRASKA says NO GO the marriage is not legal because they are citizens of Nebraska, why could they not move to Kansas where there marriage WOULD be legal ??

 

The reason I ask is because this same situation can apply not only to the AGE of the people getting married, but the sexual orientation (gays) as well..

 

It would not be fair to be able to marry in one state if any other state does not recognise the marriage as valid.

 

But on the flip side, it doesn't really matter how old one can be to get married, the fact of the matter is, he was 21, fucking a 13 year old girl. He knocked her hick ass up, and her hick ass mom said, OK, SO NOW YOU CAN MARRY HER. And obviously went to Kansas to be present for the marriage.

 

I say its a flaw in the system and they beat the system to a certain extent, but he still should be prosecuted, since at the time before they were married, he WAS breaking the law, and she is STILL under age.

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Let me start by stating that I am involved with the legal system in Nebraska (professionally). One thing the media hasn't stated much, and it just goes to show how the media skews the news the way they want anymore. What ever happened to reporting all the facts not just what they want to say. Sorry off on a rant.

 

Anyway what the media isn't saying is that both of the people involved are lower functioning. Not retarded but kinda like Forrest Gump.

 

Next, if you are legally married in any state then the marriage is recognized by the United States and you are married in that state also. Unless of course it is a same sex marriage and your state has a small minded Amendment to It's Constitution against same sex marriages, but again I'm getting off on a rant.

 

By the letter of the law and statute in Nebraska, yes this is First Degree Sexual Assault. (If one person is over the age of 19 and the other is under the age of 16 whether she wanted it or not.) Now the form of government that we have, ie the executive branch that includes law enforcement and prosecuters, also allows for discretion on whether charge someone for a crime or not.

 

I have trouble believing that Attorney General Bruning has more important things to focus on in Nebraska then to prosecute a man in a situation where neither the supposed "victim" nor her parents have made a complaint or reported the "crime". Like maybe dealing with the huge methamphetamine problem or maybe trying to get that ridiculous Same Sex Marriage Ban amendment off of our constitution. In my opinion this is no different then having a law that prevents mixed race marriages.

[ImWithStupid]

Chapter 28. Crimes and Punishments.Sexual assault; legislative intent.

 

Sexual assault of a child; penalty.28-320.01. (1) A person commits sexual assault of a child if he or she subjects another person fourteen years of age or younger to sexual contact and the actor is at least nineteen years of age or older.(2) Sexual assault of a child is a Class IV felony for the first offense and a Class III felony for all subsequent offenses.

 

You see, it doesn't matter if she wanted it or not.The law states she is TOO YOUNG to consent to such an act...

 

And I'd like to add, a CLASS IV FELONY IN NEBRASKA, IS MAX 5 YEARS. The longest he will be in is 2 and 1/2 years, just long enough for this 14 year old to grow a few more brain cells, but not long enough that it would damage the relationship.

 

I'm sure they are happy, but the fact remains, before he LEGALLY married this girl, he committed a crime, I looked up more info on the case.. Evidently, she was 12 when he fucked her, and he was 19. Legal age of marriage in KANSAS, is 14, so for well over a year, he was REPEATEDLY,( I would suppose they didn't only fuck once ), breaking the law.

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This can also be filed as First Degree Sexual Assault.

 

State of Nebraska Statutes

 

Section 28-319

Sexual assault; first degree; penalty.

 

(1) Any person who subjects another person to sexual penetration (a) without consent of the victim, or (b) who knew or should have known that the victim was mentally or physically incapable of resisting or appraising the nature of his or her conduct, or © when the actor is nineteen years of age or older and the victim is less than sixteen years of age is guilty of sexual assault in the first degree.

 

(2) Sexual assault in the first degree is a Class II felony. The sentencing judge shall consider whether the actor caused serious personal injury to the victim in reaching a decision on the sentence.

 

(3) Any person who is found guilty of sexual assault in the first degree for a second time when the first conviction was pursuant to this section or any other state or federal law with essentially the same elements as this section shall be sentenced to not less than twenty-five years and shall not be eligible for parole.

 

A Class II Felony in Nebraska is a maximum penalty of 50 years imprisonment and a MINIMUM sentence or 1 year imprisonment so you lose the option of him getting probation and being able to provide for his wife and daughter whether he is ordered to stay away until she is 16 or not. Also if you prosecute now when there isn't a victim or parent of a victim making a complaint.

 

If things change and he turns out to be a degenerate and she is unhappy later then they can file the charges.

 

Say Attorney General Bruning files now, takes this to trial without a victim's testimony, and without popular support (most people polled now believe they should be left alone, what do you think the jury's verdict will be. It will probably be not guilty and then he won't be able to prosecute later if the relationship fall apart or the guy ends up a bad dad due to Double Jeopardy.

[ImWithStupid]

Yes someone getting pregenent and married that young is not fair to that kid at all. She wont even have a proper childhood and will have to grow up far too quickly and will probably resent the child and now in turn her child will not get a proper childhood......Their entire relationship is doomed to failure all because of some pediophile....

 

Let's say that she does grow up to resent the child. Does that mean that the child should be without her father who could love her and take care of her if he weren't in jail so she could be cared for by a resenting possibly abusive mother who is taking out her frustrations on the child. I don't see how that would help.

 

Another thing is this guy didn't just find this girl, seduce her and then end up cleaning up the mess later. They've known each other for about 8 years becuase she was his friends younger sister. The relationship didn't turn romantic untill shortly before she got pregnant.

[phreakwars]

What a bunch of BS, if you watched the interview on 20/20, the kid even admitted that he had messed around with OTHER underage girls. The only damn reason he married her was to keep his own ass out of the sling.

 

Of course, she was no innocent virgin herself either, she had been with 7, count em, 7 OTHER guys, before this moron, all while she was 13 or younger, you ain't gonna convince me of the bullshit story that they claim to be friends for years.

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[ImWithStupid]

What a bunch of BS, if you watched the interview on 20/20, the kid even admitted that he had messed around with OTHER underage girls. The only damn reason he married her was to keep his own ass out of the sling.

 

Of course, she was no innocent virgin herself either, she had been with 7, count em, 7 OTHER guys, before this moron, all while she was 13 or younger, you ain't gonna convince me of the bullshit story that they claim to be friends for years.

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I believe he actually said that he had been friends with other younger girls but not romantically involved.

 

He also said that he would mostly hang around younger people not just girls because he didn't relate to people his age, probably because he is lower functioning.

[ToriAllen]

Of course, she was no innocent virgin herself either, she had been with 7, count em, 7 OTHER guys, before this moron, all while she was 13 or younger, you ain't gonna convince me of the bullshit story that they claim to be friends for years.

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Four words:

Where were the parents...

I think they should get jail time for neglect.

[ImWithStupid]

So what you are saying is this 14 year old and her daughter would be better off if her husband, who is trying to help support them, his mother who is assisting them by letting them live in her basement and her parents were in jail?

 

I don't see how that would make anything better especially since nobody has reported that they were a victim of a crime.

 

I think this case is a perfect example of how people can be over governed and that is exactly why this country was formed. To get away from tyrannical leaders. It is very possible to cause more harm then good when people unwantingly interfere even if the action was made with the best intentions.

 

I also think cases like this are why the law allows for case by case judgement and discretion before charging people with a crime.

[phreakwars]

Let me start by stating that I am involved with the legal system in Nebraska (professionally)..

Is that you Sam ??

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[ImWithStupid]

No. Sorry.

[phreakwars]

Welcome to GF nonetheless.

 

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[ImWithStupid]

Thank you, I'm happy to find a site to have an intelligent conversation or debate.

[Outlaw2747]

Frankly I think both of them should be hung upside down tied to a fishing rod and fed to a bunch of hungry makos for being disgusting examples of human beings.

[sixes]

Frankly I think both of them should be hung upside down tied to a fishing rod and fed to a bunch of hungry makos for being disgusting examples of human beings.

 

Laughing @ Outlaw! You should have been the judge in this case. haha

[ToriAllen]

So what you are saying is this 14 year old and her daughter would be better off if her husband, who is trying to help support them, his mother who is assisting them by letting them live in her basement and her parents were in jail?

 

I don't see how that would make anything better especially since nobody has reported that they were a victim of a crime.

 

I think this case is a perfect example of how people can be over governed and that is exactly why this country was formed. To get away from tyrannical leaders. It is very possible to cause more harm then good when people unwantingly interfere even if the action was made with the best intentions.

 

I also think cases like this are why the law allows for case by case judgement and discretion before charging people with a crime.

The parent

[TerroristHater]

Here is an interesting story my wife was rambling on about to me, asking me if I saw it on the news, to which I replied "NO", so I looked the story up, and it is VERY interesting, to say the least.

://www.theomahachannel.com/newsarchive/4778303/detail.html

 

There are many questions that arise about the legalitys of this. My wifes says the courts should leave them alone. And I say, it's statutory rape, and should be prosecuted ??

 

What do you think ?

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I don't like it, but the prosecutor is a jackass and he's going to lose. She didn't get pregnant until AFTER she married him. As such, he CANNOT be charged with a crime.

 

It's sick that it happened, and it's refreshing that the accused did the right thing, however, inappropriate the relationship is. The prosecutor is being as asshole and he will end up with egg on his face for it.

 

They are LEGALLY MARRIED, which means, because of the Full Faith and Credit Clause, their marriage is recognized in whatever state they are in. The prosecutor is going to lose because of this fact.

 

They were LEGALLY MARRIED WITH PARENTAL CONSENT in another state and there is NOTHING the prosecutor can do or say about it.

 

Eventually, the state will end up getting sued senseless over the prosecutor's abuse of authority.

 

This is a sad situation, the girl will miss her childhood and probably suffer educationally, but in the end; what's done is done. The prosecutor is going learn this lesson the hard way.

 

-TH

 

P.S. My vote was made before I knew they were married. As such, it is incorrect and I apologize for that.

[ImWithStupid]

Family Surprised That Son, 22, Charged Over Pregnancy Of Wife, 14

Kosos Family Is Supporting Couple With Baby On Way

 

POSTED: 5:53 pm CDT July 27, 2005

UPDATED: 6:48 pm CDT July 27, 2005

 

FALLS CITY, Neb. -- Nebraska Attorney General Jon Bruning said Wednesday that the marriage between a 22-year-old man and a 14-year-old girl is

[tizz]

Nebraska must be one hell of a boring freaking state if this s teh biggest thing they have to worry about

[TerroristHater]

Family Surprised That Son, 22, Charged Over Pregnancy Of Wife, 14

Kosos Family Is Supporting Couple With Baby On Way

 

POSTED: 5:53 pm CDT July 27, 2005

UPDATED: 6:48 pm CDT July 27, 2005

 

FALLS CITY, Neb. -- Nebraska Attorney General Jon Bruning said Wednesday that the marriage between a 22-year-old man and a 14-year-old girl is

[phreakwars]

TH, your not paying attention, the guy was guilty of the crime before they were married, the proof of this, is he had gotten her pregnant. Sure they got married, and basically, it was to save his own ass, but you can't overlook the fact, that before this couple was married, he was commiting a crime. I don't believe this is a case where marriage should be a valid reason not to prosecute.

 

 

What kind of fucked up mother lets her daughter fuck an older guy anyways.., then have the fucking NERVE to say, well, now that you got her pregnant, I guess its OK that you marry her.

 

You would damn well bet if it were my daughter, the son of a bitch would have first had his ass kicked, and then charges thrown on him.

 

This is irresponsible parenting. If the prosecutor had any sense, he would ALSO charge this girls mother with a crime such as child endangerment or neglect for allowing a CRIMINAL ACTIVITY to take place when her daughter was not of an age to consent to such acts in the first place.

 

Pedophila is pedophila, just because a guy says he will marry the underage girl, does not make it any different.

 

What if she was 8 or 9 ??

 

Not to start the Muslim issue, but, Need I remind any of you of Aisha ??

 

In Kansas, she could be married off legally because there is no age limit, NONE !!

 

Does that give him the right to fuck an 8 year old ?

 

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[angie]

Oh look, it's happened again:

http://www.nbc30.com/news/5323287/detail.html

GAINESVILLE, Ga. -- A 37-year-old woman charged with child molestation after being accused of having a sexual relationship with a 15-year-old boy whom she married last week is scheduled to be in court later this month.

The Times of Gainesville quotes unidentified members of the boy's family as saying that Lynnette Clark is pregnant with the boy's child and that they were married Tuesday. The boy's grandmother -- Judy Hayles -- said she received a notice of the marriage from Dawson County because she is the boy's guardian.

Clark was arrested Wednesday and taken to the Hall County Detention Center. The Hall County Sheriff's Office did not immediately return phone calls today seeking further detail.

District Attorney Lee Darragh said the Georgia law on child molestation -- which said that a person under age 16 legally cannot consent to a sexual act -- does not take into consideration whether the minor is married.

Can you explain to me WHAT ON EARTH a 37 year old has in common with a 15 year old?! What is wrong with the family that they allowed this to happen for nearly TWO YEARS?!?!

[Lethalfind]

There can be no sanctity of marriage when one of the spouses is a pedophile...

The woman is not well mentally and should not be allowed to ruin this young mans life.

 

As I so often ask, where are the parents of this young man??

[hugo]

There can be no sanctity of marriage when one of the spouses is a pedophile...

The woman is not well mentally and should not be allowed to ruin this young mans life.

 

As I so often ask, where are the parents of this young man??

 

Actually she is a ephebophile, an individual attracted to adolescents. A pedophile's attraction is to prepubescents.