All you cunts who try to change me

[Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell]

I don't want you to change Komrade! We need a commie here to make the debates interresting.

[phreakwars]

My grandpa voted for FDR.

 

FDR loved Communism, and whats good enough for FDR is good enough for me.

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[eisanbt]

Communism WOULD be pretty cool but its too often a catalyst for totalatianism.

 

GO COMMUNIAL SOCIALISM!!!!

[Komrade Vostok Hazard]

Actually, you'd make a pretty kickass comic book character. May I draw a comic about you?

 

Go right ahead.

[RoyalOrleans]

I don't want you to change Komrade! We need a commie here to make the debates interresting.

 

I totally concur!

 

What alot of people don't realize is that we push those who are different away. I don't want to debate with a bunch of assholes that agree with me all the time. I certainly don't agree with what most people say, Komrade included.

 

Fuck all this understanding and sensitivity bullshit, what we need is someone to bring their brutal opinion. No more tip-toeing, no more kitten-gloves. That's the way things should be.

[Komrade Vostok Hazard]

And my opinion is that everyone should pull the fucking stick out of their asses

 

Issue Closed

[tizz]

It's one thing to debate issues with an opposing perspective, it is another if that perspective is from a standpoint of something that has allready been proven impossible on a global level. I would still like to hear our little "red" friend here, explain teh difference between communism and socialism and why he chooses to support comunism even though it has been proven globally that it cannot work on the larger scale.

[Komrade Vostok Hazard]

After temporarly removing TIZZ from my ignore list, and she's sitting there pounding her fists on the ground and kicking her heels wanting me to explain my choice in beliefs

 

let's see.....I like being a "Commie pinko faggot bastard (insert other grade-school lever remark here) Because:

 

I don't like seeing the working man get screwed out of jobs because of corporate downsizing when some fucking shareholder wants his third yacht

 

I don't like actors, models, athletes, manufactured popstars and other assholes who get paid millions to do non-work while people that are ESSENTIAL to society are in the poor house.

 

I don't like war wacky nutcases bombing the shit out of other countries and killing millions for oil.

 

I don't like some corporate sleezebag stomping out entire communities and fucking over local family owned businsesses who are just trying to feed their families.

 

I don't like privatized health care systems that are so costly that rich people are the only ones alive and the poor are left to rot and die.

 

I don't like corporate factory farms that mass produce animals in shitty conditions where they're drugged up, beaten and forced to lay in their own shit, and then when come butcher time, people eat disease, drug laden meat that can be potentially harmful.

 

I don't like privatized schools that enable only rich kids to get an education, leaving those less fortunate without a chance to get an education and to be able to get ahead.

 

I don't like some nazi shithead who thinks a fucking skin color causes all the problems in the world

 

I don't like how the rich people get so big and powerful that the average man has no chance at competing and therefore gets nowhere. As the rich grow in power, the gap between the haves and the have nots gets so big that soon enough all that will be left are some elitists sitting on top, while everyone is enslaved by them

 

Speaking of enslavement, I dont like little kids working in sweatshops because some fucking corporate stooge is too damn cheap to pay them a decent wage for working in shitty conditions doing repetitive tasks for 12 hours a day.

 

Is that enough reasons to allow me to be entitled to my beliefs oh great lord shit who sits in thine high horse while boosting a holier than thou attitude all thy time?

[tizz]

Ok so now let's here you describe the difference between socialism and comunism.

 

BTW in pure comunism NO ONE gets and education because then they would see it can't work . Any way... let's here it.

[Outlaw2747]

I cannot stand sugar coating the truth? How else are morons gonna learn? Sweeping shit under the carpet IS NOT gonna make the truth go away but it will just become a bigger problem, one that someone cannot handle. So people need to get the stick out of their ass and clean up after themselves.

 

I also find it FUNNY that someone makes millions for playing a sport and having fun, tell jokes, and act like a goofball on national television but someone who gets fired at by stupid sucidal bomber fucktards and helps preserve the freedom of their own country gets paid less than most people on minimum wage. It could be the whole "make a sacrifice without asking for anything in return" but I could be wrong.

[Komrade Vostok Hazard]

Communism: A disintegration of state into a people's society where everyone is equal

 

Socialism: A system where all industries are nationalized, but pay different wages. A nessicary transistion step for conversion from Capitalism to Communism

[tizz]

So socialism cannot exist without becoming comunism?

 

And you DO realize that in true comuism there is no education there s no internet there is no deviation from the plan. ALL are equal all work for teh same cause. No religion no seperate identity. Mothing that might separate one fro teh other or cause reason for jealousy or desire to be better because better might mean you are to god to do teh work.

 

I implore you to read "cambodian oddessy" Russia and china are not TRUE comunist states and I am just damn convinced you are not entirely aware of what true comunism is.

[Komrade Vostok Hazard]

I also find it FUNNY that someone makes millions for playing a sport and having fun, tell jokes, and act like a goofball on national television but someone who gets fired at by stupid sucidal bomber fucktards and helps preserve the freedom of their own country gets paid less than most people on minimum wage. It could be the whole "make a sacrifice without asking for anything in return" but I could be wrong.

 

 

I swear this guy is one of maybe a few people here who AREN'T dipshits.

 

But a better term than "funny" would be "completely sad state of affairs" to describe a system that has that much disrespect for people who keep the world safe but make them come home broke and limbless - or even in a bodybag while some dipshit is treated like a god because they play childrens games or make an idiot of themselves. When capitalism becomes a system where the heroes of society - doctors, firefighters, (non-corrupt) police officers, and ESPECIALLY soldiers and veterans get better status than some performing monkey, I will gladly embrace it.

[tizz]

Too bad in comunism you will not havve ANYONE elevated to a status higher than worker bee. No heroes, just drones.

 

Socailism on teh other hand simply aims to create a working class society while elliminating all other classes in the system and working toward teh bennefit of the whole rather than beneffiting a select few.

[Komrade Vostok Hazard]

So socialism cannot exist without becoming comunism?

 

And you DO realize that in true comuism there is no education there s no internet there is no deviation from the plan. ALL are equal all work for teh same cause. No religion no seperate identity. Mothing that might separate one fro teh other or cause reason for jealousy or desire to be better because better might mean you are to god to do teh work.

 

I implore you to read "cambodian oddessy" Russia and china are not TRUE comunist states and I am just damn convinced you are not entirely aware of what true comunism is.

 

 

It can exist without becoming communism. Communism just can't exist without starting out as socialism.

 

Deviation from the plan? Why would I want to deviate from a plan that I believe in?

 

No religion. I can live with that. VERY easily

 

No seperate identy. Maybe that will put an end to the racial tensions and pointless- but yet often violent conflicts with subcultures.

 

You also speak of the need to be better. As in successful. I've come to believe that when a capitalist/conservative/nazi says "successful" they mean being the greediest money grabbing materialist pack rat on the face of the earth. Maybe getting rid of this will give people some, oh I don't know....HUMANITY.

[tizz]

Hey I am not arguing the pitfalls of capitolism, I am more socialist than anything, but you do realize that because in comunism there is an effort to take aways most if not all things that seperate the people (giving temtation to classing them) there is also a desire to make one race. I can give you a great list of books detailing the lives of those who have survived the extremes of comunism. I am not busting you so much as I am still convinced you are unaware of teh realities of living under comunist rule. Even comunal socailism (look into Christiania http://www.christiania.org/ ) that might be a bit hippy dippy for ya but it IS social comunism and it does work as long as it is kept on a small scale. You just have given me nothing here that would lead me to believe you REALLY know what it is you are believing in.

[fullauto]

I don't want you to change Komrade! We need a commie here to make the debates interresting..

 

I agree... even though I HATE (with a capital TE) Communism/Socialism... and even though I think that he's WAY too young to understand why Communism doesn't work and why capitalism does, We do need an outspoken Communist here to 'round out' the sign in sheet...

[sovikolp]

maybe you should stop trying to shove your opinion down peoples throat and tell people to cut it the fuck out.

 

sorta the contradiction.

 

but i agree, i hate those closed minded bastards that doesn't get the hint.