GrayGal Posted August 10, 2005 Posted August 10, 2005 This is a poll on fox news...lets get everyones opinion on this http://www.sucksbbs.net/data/MetaMirrorCache/bf579d790688a5b6ce4acac92ae0b3e3.jpg Gray~Gal ..... You can only be young once. But you can always be immature. ~Dave Barry "I am free of all prejudices. I hate everyone equally." WC Fields. Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege. Unknown There is nothing more frightening than active ignorance. ~Goethe
RoyalOrleans Posted August 10, 2005 Posted August 10, 2005 I say pull out NOW! My financial well being has been saved hundreds of times by pulling out. 1 To be the Man, you've got to beat the Man. - Ric Flair Everybody knows I'm known for dropping science.
phreakwars Posted August 10, 2005 Posted August 10, 2005 Personally, I never pull out till the jobs done. Oh wait... wrong post . . https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars
Msixty Posted August 10, 2005 Posted August 10, 2005 i say we stay with it till we have done what we went there to do (option #2) we should for several reasons, one of which being that if we just leave the un-trained, brand new, bare assed Iraq will fall to shit because of the insurgents, and be in it worse than before in a state of constant war, and even worse they will blame us, and we really don't need more crazy fuckers going after our troops. another reason we need to stay in is to show the world that we finish what we start no matter what the odds against us, and also it will give us a huge political victory (and a much needed one at that) Your stupidity is My weapon WARNING! my mood and mental state are strongly influenced by music and T.V./movies..... i may seem the slightest bit insane.. just don't let me watch my favorite show and or listen to my music and it will all be alright.
angie Posted August 10, 2005 Posted August 10, 2005 I have mixed feelings on the issue. I would like to say pull out now, but that's because if we did, then my brother wouldn't get sent. He's been told he is going and is just waiting for the phone call. Depressing. On the other hand, that isn't the greatest of ideas. However, we should start preparing to leave, and get out as quickly as feasible. BUT I don't see our dipshit president doing that. http://www.darwinawards.com/ http://www.snopes.com http://www.breakthechain.org STOP THE SPAM!! Click Me You Know You Want To
ToriAllen Posted August 10, 2005 Posted August 10, 2005 I have mixed feelings on the issue. I would like to say pull out now, but that's because if we did, then my brother wouldn't get sent. He's been told he is going and is just waiting for the phone call. Depressing. On the other hand, that isn't the greatest of ideas. However, we should start preparing to leave, and get out as quickly as feasible. BUT I don't see our dipshit president doing that. Actually we are getting out as quickly as possible. You act like Bush is some kind of sadist that enjoys watching people die. What do think we are trying to accomplish? Do you think our government is planning to stay as long as they can to increase our national debt just for fun? Don't you think maybe those who are in charge of the war know a little more about it than the average citizen? Don't you think the analysts who get paid to look at every angle and figure out the outcomes of each circumstance might know a little more about what they are doing then the average Joe on the street? Some suggestions from analysts: If we pull out now the insurgents will claim victory and recruitment for their cause will increase, as will the threat to the US and many other countries all over the world. If we pull out now, leaving Iraq weak and vulnerable, a new tyrant will take charge. A country that is used to dictatorship and knows little about democracy or freedom would not be difficult for a terrorist group to take over. To leave now is pure selfishness. Don Smart men learn from their own mistakes; Wise men learn from others. I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.
snafu Posted August 10, 2005 Posted August 10, 2005 I say we stay there until we do something about Iran and even Saudi Arabia. We need the base there. I don "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws. That's just insane!" Penn & Teller NEVER FORGOTTEN
GrayGal Posted August 10, 2005 Author Posted August 10, 2005 Yeah i think we need to keep troops there so there isnt no more MASS slaughtering but i think the MAJORITY should come home. I know it will take time but i want my hubby home for a holiday or two, ya know? http://www.sucksbbs.net/data/MetaMirrorCache/bf579d790688a5b6ce4acac92ae0b3e3.jpg Gray~Gal ..... You can only be young once. But you can always be immature. ~Dave Barry "I am free of all prejudices. I hate everyone equally." WC Fields. Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege. Unknown There is nothing more frightening than active ignorance. ~Goethe
Hugh G. Rekshun Posted August 10, 2005 Posted August 10, 2005 As a Marine at heart and always in my mind...Semper Fi!! Fuck 'em and feed 'em beans! We will leave when the job is done...period! "May you sit naked in Hell for all eternity with your tender rectum resting squarely upon the sharp end of a red hot barbed stalagmite, all the while you are tormented forever by hideous demons who force you to listen to endless Barry Manilow and Elton John duets of Ashlee Simpson's greatest hits, let this fate befall all those who so much as plagiarize one single word from my work"
Msixty Posted August 10, 2005 Posted August 10, 2005 As a Marine at heart and always in my mind...Semper Fi!! Fuck 'em and feed 'em beans! We will leave when the job is done...period! and thats why i love the marines Your stupidity is My weapon WARNING! my mood and mental state are strongly influenced by music and T.V./movies..... i may seem the slightest bit insane.. just don't let me watch my favorite show and or listen to my music and it will all be alright.
RoyalOrleans Posted August 10, 2005 Posted August 10, 2005 and thats why i love the marines Being a marine myself and a student of such logic, I can't help but think why is our beloved armed forces dying day in and out for people that don't care? To be the Man, you've got to beat the Man. - Ric Flair Everybody knows I'm known for dropping science.
ALLAH IS GREAT Posted August 10, 2005 Posted August 10, 2005 Personally, I never pull out till the jobs done. Oh wait... wrong post . . LMAO? Pull out now phreak! I mean pull out of Iraq.Damn,you have a dirty mind. 'They intend to put out the Light of Allah with their mouths.But Allah will bring His Light to perfection even though the disbelievers hate it' ''Oh Allah!Make the best of my deeds my last deeds, and make the best of my life my last moments, and make the best day of my life the Day I meet You!''
tizz Posted August 10, 2005 Posted August 10, 2005 I was going to say go slow let them get their footing, but the truth is, I doubt there will ever be the kind of peace there that anyone is hoping for, and chances are within 6 months after we pull out (no matter when that happens) there will be a hostile take over and some country like Iran will end up with full political power over the country. I say give em. 6 months from now. Begin to pull out and if they can't get their shit together by then they never will (and it won't last anyway). I do think we owe them somekind of clean up in the form of actual help restructuring (the physical I mean) and make sure that we have replaced power, water, hospitals, schools, and some kind of economy and workforce, but I am not sure I military presence is necesary for that. Cash should do and maybe some help planning. We did fuck the place up, we should at least clean up a bit before we go "An intelligence that is not humane is the most dangerous thing in the world" Ashley Montague "No one should have to walk alone" Phuong Du "An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind" Ghandi "If I were asked to define an American in a single phrase, I would say 'An American is a person who has the right to be different' and I think that right is growing" William Manchester
ALLAH IS GREAT Posted August 11, 2005 Posted August 11, 2005 I do think we owe them somekind of clean up in the form of actual help restructuring (the physical I mean) and make sure that we have replaced power, water, hospitals, schools, and some kind of economy and workforce, but I am not sure I military presence is necesary for that. Could you add family members to that list please.They are highly replacable,cash should do! tsk I think my question is,why destroy in the first place? I'm not askin' this question to just america.This world has gone mad. seriously,don't you think women should be given a chance to run countries? I think there'll be a bit more compassion toward human life! 'They intend to put out the Light of Allah with their mouths.But Allah will bring His Light to perfection even though the disbelievers hate it' ''Oh Allah!Make the best of my deeds my last deeds, and make the best of my life my last moments, and make the best day of my life the Day I meet You!''
tizz Posted August 11, 2005 Posted August 11, 2005 Well, since I have yet to discover the secret to bending time and space, I am left to accept that what happened happened and all that can be done now is try to have a positive effect on the outcome of our sins. As for human lives, I am sorry but there isn't much that can be done there. hte truth of the matter is that US military presence isn't doing much at the moment but adding to an allready tense situation. like I said, I think in the end our presence now will have no effect on the future, good or bad. Thing will return to the all fucked up normal of the region. We can, however; off some assistance in rebuilding to the point where hospitals schools and shopping centers and such are replaced after we blew them to hell. Unfortunately nothing can be done for all the precious pices of human history that were once part of the museums and castles. They have gone the way of blown to shite! "An intelligence that is not humane is the most dangerous thing in the world" Ashley Montague "No one should have to walk alone" Phuong Du "An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind" Ghandi "If I were asked to define an American in a single phrase, I would say 'An American is a person who has the right to be different' and I think that right is growing" William Manchester
Msixty Posted August 11, 2005 Posted August 11, 2005 Being a marine myself and a student of such logic, I can't help but think why is our beloved armed forces dying day in and out for people that don't care? because its the right thing, and there are the few who still love this country, and what an American flag flying in battle stands for now the world needs to remember how our military has helped everyone GOD BLESS AMERICA AND OUR SOLDIERS i know its considered a stupid thing to wish for, but i really do want to be over in Iraq with the USMC fighting, damn age restrictions for the military, i guess ill just need to wait like every one else Your stupidity is My weapon WARNING! my mood and mental state are strongly influenced by music and T.V./movies..... i may seem the slightest bit insane.. just don't let me watch my favorite show and or listen to my music and it will all be alright.
Msixty Posted August 11, 2005 Posted August 11, 2005 don't you think women should be given a chance to run countries? I think there'll be a bit more compassion toward human life! and the world would get walked over, why? because damn near every woman is like a Democrat, THE WONT BE ABLE TO PULL THE TRIGGER WHEN THE TIME COMES you retarded fucks think that talking will work STOP WATCH IND SESAME STREET AND TUNE INTO THE HISTORY CHANNEL you might learn what really happens to people like you Your stupidity is My weapon WARNING! my mood and mental state are strongly influenced by music and T.V./movies..... i may seem the slightest bit insane.. just don't let me watch my favorite show and or listen to my music and it will all be alright.
tizz Posted August 11, 2005 Posted August 11, 2005 Ok and in IRAQ women are given positions of power in govt and what do they do? The head bitch with the most power is pushing for more Islamic law and fully supports the government allowing for the beating of women and the continued practive of female circumscision under the new Iraqi constitution. So much for women getting a good global reputation for political power! "An intelligence that is not humane is the most dangerous thing in the world" Ashley Montague "No one should have to walk alone" Phuong Du "An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind" Ghandi "If I were asked to define an American in a single phrase, I would say 'An American is a person who has the right to be different' and I think that right is growing" William Manchester
jokersarewild Posted August 11, 2005 Posted August 11, 2005 If we pull out instantly, there will probably be chaos and murdering. If we pull out gradually, there will still be chaos and murdering, but maybe less of it. Maybe... RoyalOrleans is my real dad!
ToriAllen Posted August 11, 2005 Posted August 11, 2005 Could you add family members to that list please.They are highly replacable,cash should do! tsk I think my question is,why destroy in the first place? I'm not askin' this question to just america.This world has gone mad. seriously,don't you think women should be given a chance to run countries? I think there'll be a bit more compassion toward human life! We were showing compassion by going over there in the first place. Do you know the statistics of how many innocent civilians died under Saddam Smart men learn from their own mistakes; Wise men learn from others. I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.
tizz Posted August 11, 2005 Posted August 11, 2005 Tori ARE YOU CRACKED???? or just confused between this and the last war. The LAST war was declared under the pretense of liberating the people of quawait, THIS war was declared (or not whatever) under the pretense that Iraq had WMD. Where have you been? Sure we got rid of Saddam, but you DO realize the new constitution is going to be just as bad (allready IS) at least from teh perspective of a westerner. Leberation only became the reason after no WMD were found. Do your homework. Even if people were freed from oppression, it did NOT have to happen as it did. Give me a freaking break. I have heard reasoning and justification for the war but this is just SILLY!!!! "An intelligence that is not humane is the most dangerous thing in the world" Ashley Montague "No one should have to walk alone" Phuong Du "An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind" Ghandi "If I were asked to define an American in a single phrase, I would say 'An American is a person who has the right to be different' and I think that right is growing" William Manchester
ToriAllen Posted August 11, 2005 Posted August 11, 2005 Tori ARE YOU CRACKED???? or just confused between this and the last war. The LAST war was declared under the pretense of liberating the people of quawait, THIS war was declared (or not whatever) under the pretense that Iraq had WMD. Where have you been? Sure we got rid of Saddam, but you DO realize the new constitution is going to be just as bad (allready IS) at least from teh perspective of a westerner. Leberation only became the reason after no WMD were found. Do your homework. Even if people were freed from oppression, it did NOT have to happen as it did. Give me a freaking break. I have heard reasoning and justification for the war but this is just SILLY!!!! No, but I think you are. I've followed the war from the beginning, and not just through the liberal media. The WMD's were one fear but not the complete reasoning for the war, nor was liberation, but they both tied into it. Which part of my previous response was it that indicated I thought liberation was the only objective going into the war? Perhaps you should do your homework. All of the congressional speeches that were made in support of going to war are public record. You really shouldn't believe everything you hear on TV. Smart men learn from their own mistakes; Wise men learn from others. I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.
tizz Posted August 11, 2005 Posted August 11, 2005 Well I watch about ten minutes of news a day in order to track the weather. So that argument is out. I do know that i listened to every word of every speech (minus the bullshit comentary) and liberation was NOT an issue until later. Sure they threw it is there to supress some of the attacks from the libs, but come on. If liberation was sooooooooo important and such an issue to us in the ME then why didn't we do that the first time? Use some logic. We gave saddam an ultimatum concerning WMD, not liberation. "An intelligence that is not humane is the most dangerous thing in the world" Ashley Montague "No one should have to walk alone" Phuong Du "An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind" Ghandi "If I were asked to define an American in a single phrase, I would say 'An American is a person who has the right to be different' and I think that right is growing" William Manchester
ToriAllen Posted August 11, 2005 Posted August 11, 2005 Well I watch about ten minutes of news a day in order to track the weather. So that argument is out. I do know that i listened to every word of every speech (minus the bullshit comentary) and liberation was NOT an issue until later. Sure they threw it is there to supress some of the attacks from the libs, but come on. If liberation was sooooooooo important and such an issue to us in the ME then why didn't we do that the first time? Use some logic. We gave saddam an ultimatum concerning WMD, not liberation. Let me reiterate this for you: "The WMD's were one fear but not the complete reasoning for the war, nor was liberation, but they both tied into it. Which part of my previous response was it that indicated I thought liberation was the only objective going into the war?" I never said liberation was the only reason we went to war. I never even said it was a main reason. My views on why we went to war are under For Anyone That Thinks War In Iraq Isn't Necessary. I do think it is ignorance to say our troops are over there for no reason or that we have somehow done something wrong, when it is obvious that this was not a mistake. Keep in mind we did not know about the human shredder that Saddam had or the mass grave of over 2,000 people going into the war. Smart men learn from their own mistakes; Wise men learn from others. I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.
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