TerroristHater Posted August 20, 2005 Posted August 20, 2005 I still stand by my statement: HE WAS STILL BREAKING THE LAW AND SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THERE COULD BE CONSEQUENCES. THEY WERE TOGTHER BEFORE HE TURNED 18. It's really heartless of you to think the way you do. They were two teenagers in love. I do not think that he needed to have his life ruined for it. It concerns me that you do not care that people who are INNOCENT should be forced to endure arbitrary punishment. Quote I'm not having a tantrum...I'm not...I'm not...I'm not...I'm going to sue your ass...whawwwwwwww. Iran's useless government will disarm or be destroyed. As a matter of personal preference; I prefer the latter. FUCK IRAN, FUCK TERRORISTS, AND FUCK ALL THOSE WHO SUPPORT THEM!!!
Msixty Posted August 20, 2005 Posted August 20, 2005 My shotgun will discriminate. mine wont, the Rem. 870 is not racist, it blows equal size holes in all deserving bastards Quote Your stupidity is My weapon WARNING! my mood and mental state are strongly influenced by music and T.V./movies..... i may seem the slightest bit insane.. just don't let me watch my favorite show and or listen to my music and it will all be alright.
TerroristHater Posted August 21, 2005 Posted August 21, 2005 SO terrorist here's a thought. Instead of arguing a law meant to protect children from sexual PREDATORS, why not argue the velidity of lableling people like your friend sexual offenders and putting them into the same catagory as violent sexual offenders ect... Why not argue that because of the circumstances one shoulr be able to have thier case re examined in order to be taken off the list? In this country, if oyu break the law, you must be able to accept that you may have certain privelages revoked (keep in mind the difference between what is a given right to ALL people and what is an earned privelage). I didn't go that route because retarted states like Florida do not have that option. Florida is completely blind to the fact that thier ridiculous, unconstitutional law is unfairly punshing people. They know this and they do not care. This is one of those laws that is good in theory, but not in practice. The governing body that passed this law needs to be forcibly removed from office. Their willingness to ignore the United States Constitution is unacceptable. Limiting access to chruches is UNCONCIONABLE and UNFORGIVEABLE. If they are not able to pass laws that are constitutional, they don't need to be passing laws at all. Laws in general do not differentiate between who is a threat and who is not. They tend to group by class. This has the effect of hurting innocent people. This was one of the major problems with domestic violence laws congress created in the mid 90s. Class grouping and broad, never-ending scopes, had the effect of costing good people thier jobs. A number of good police officers lost thier jobs over things that happend 15 to 20 years, before that statue was passed. This is both unforgiveable and totally unecessary. Until a law can be made, which adequately addresses EACH SEPERATE OFFENDER in a manner commensurate with the crime he commited and has been succsessfully limited by law (meaning that it expires after a given number of years); THEN AND ONLY THEN can these types of laws be considered. Regarding the Osceloa, Florida's illegal limiting of access to churches, I find this to be unconstitutional, and totally unacceptable. No law can be made, which mandates actions, consequences, or other requirements that are forbidden by the United States Constitution. For this reason, on it's face, the law in question must be stricken. -TH Quote I'm not having a tantrum...I'm not...I'm not...I'm not...I'm going to sue your ass...whawwwwwwww. Iran's useless government will disarm or be destroyed. As a matter of personal preference; I prefer the latter. FUCK IRAN, FUCK TERRORISTS, AND FUCK ALL THOSE WHO SUPPORT THEM!!!
TerroristHater Posted August 21, 2005 Posted August 21, 2005 Sex OffenderAss ClownI see we have made great progress since last I visited. If you don't like it DON'T COME BACK ASSHOLE! Quote I'm not having a tantrum...I'm not...I'm not...I'm not...I'm going to sue your ass...whawwwwwwww. Iran's useless government will disarm or be destroyed. As a matter of personal preference; I prefer the latter. FUCK IRAN, FUCK TERRORISTS, AND FUCK ALL THOSE WHO SUPPORT THEM!!!
TerroristHater Posted August 21, 2005 Posted August 21, 2005 what is wrong with you??why do dumbasses like you take up for scumbags like that? if a scumbag messed with my 2 daughters i can think of nothing except torture for them. I wasn't. I was taking up for YOU. However, if you feel the need to learn the hard way, please be my guest. Quote I'm not having a tantrum...I'm not...I'm not...I'm not...I'm going to sue your ass...whawwwwwwww. Iran's useless government will disarm or be destroyed. As a matter of personal preference; I prefer the latter. FUCK IRAN, FUCK TERRORISTS, AND FUCK ALL THOSE WHO SUPPORT THEM!!!
TerroristHater Posted August 21, 2005 Posted August 21, 2005 Because TH is an idiot. That's why. No, you facist cunt, I am not. Kindly move your nazi ass out of this country. Quote I'm not having a tantrum...I'm not...I'm not...I'm not...I'm going to sue your ass...whawwwwwwww. Iran's useless government will disarm or be destroyed. As a matter of personal preference; I prefer the latter. FUCK IRAN, FUCK TERRORISTS, AND FUCK ALL THOSE WHO SUPPORT THEM!!!
Lethalfind Posted August 21, 2005 Posted August 21, 2005 Terrorist Hater, maybe your stupid friend should have kept his dick in his pants. For this one person you think that the whole country should not be protected from peadophiles??? Get a clue and grow up. Ingnorance of the law is no excuse for breaking the law, he had to know what he was going was wrong. I don't beleive that people who are not ready to deal with the consequences of sex such as unwanted pregancies and sexually transmitted diseases should be having sex. I would have done the same thing that girls Mother did and probably more. I can assure you by that time I will have a gun and the guys around my daughter will be affraid to even think dirty. As far as the Federal Government and the individual states not having the right to legislate where peadophiles can live, that is frankly NOT TRUE, you need to do a little reading besides your comic books and this blog sight, we do IN FACT have those rights and we are exercising them. You may feel morally we should not however LEGALLY we do. If you don't like it, you have the freedom to GET THE FUCK OUT!! Find another country that is better to live in. As a parent I will do all I can to keep my daughter safe, that includes keep track of sickos in my area. In fact it is also completely legal to post a sign such as smutt butt did and I applaud her for it. As long as the basic information given on the county or state website is not altered, she merely stated "convicted peadophile" which was true, if she had stated he was a "murderer" and he was not convicted of that then that would not be legally right. As far as depriving these sick bastards of the right to practice the religion of their choice, how does making sure they don't live too close to a church mean they can't drive to church. My parents drug me to church until I was 16, we always had to get in the car and drive, we never lived close enough to walk, we always felt we had freedom to practice religion. My 8 year old daughters rights to grow up untouched by sick bastards like this should outweigh their rights to anything. My daughter and I live alone in a nice neighborhood. We have a security system however with the rising concerns about cases like BTK and other peadophiles, I have been thinking of getting a gun. How else would I stop someone like this from harming her? I am not in the physical shape to force him myself. I shouldn't be put in that position. A boy in our area was given a camera cell phone by his parents, one day as he was walking to school, (his parents let him walk a couple of blocks to school) a peadophile tried to pick him up, he took his picture and the peadophile (who was registered) was picked up and violated back to jail. Do I really have to get my 8 year old a camera cell phone in order for her to be protected? Let me also say that I would NEVER let my daughter walk or ride her bike to schoool, it was hard enough for me to let her take the bus. How about one of those GPS watches so I can track her via my home computer?? I shouldn't have to do that but what else are parents left to when the state can't control these bastards? Quote I am a pathetic piece of shit leeching single mom.
Msixty Posted August 21, 2005 Posted August 21, 2005 I have been thinking of getting a gun not a bad idea, but if you have kids you need to consider how to keep it ready for use, and keep them safe from it (not to mention the safety courses i suggest you go through to make sure you know what your doing and are able to use it effectively) Quote Your stupidity is My weapon WARNING! my mood and mental state are strongly influenced by music and T.V./movies..... i may seem the slightest bit insane.. just don't let me watch my favorite show and or listen to my music and it will all be alright.
tizz Posted August 21, 2005 Posted August 21, 2005 I think I will stick with my Red Rider BB Gun!! Quote "An intelligence that is not humane is the most dangerous thing in the world" Ashley Montague "No one should have to walk alone" Phuong Du "An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind" Ghandi "If I were asked to define an American in a single phrase, I would say 'An American is a person who has the right to be different' and I think that right is growing" William Manchester
Msixty Posted August 21, 2005 Posted August 21, 2005 I think I will stick with my Red Rider BB Gun!! and ill stick with my guns, well, i guess a 1911 would be a nice addition, but i don't see a red rider stopping anything....unless you get kidnapped or raped by soda cans Quote Your stupidity is My weapon WARNING! my mood and mental state are strongly influenced by music and T.V./movies..... i may seem the slightest bit insane.. just don't let me watch my favorite show and or listen to my music and it will all be alright.
TerroristHater Posted August 21, 2005 Posted August 21, 2005 Terrorist Hater, maybe your stupid friend should have kept his dick in his pants. For this one person you think that the whole country should not be protected from peadophiles??? Get a clue and grow up. Ingnorance of the law is no excuse for breaking the law, he had to know what he was going was wrong. I don't beleive that people who are not ready to deal with the consequences of sex such as unwanted pregancies and sexually transmitted diseases should be having sex. I would have done the same thing that girls Mother did and probably more. I can assure you by that time I will have a gun and the guys around my daughter will be affraid to even think dirty. As far as the Federal Government and the individual states not having the right to legislate where peadophiles can live, that is frankly NOT TRUE, you need to do a little reading besides your comic books and this blog sight, we do IN FACT have those rights and we are exercising them. You may feel morally we should not however LEGALLY we do. If you don't like it, you have the freedom to GET THE FUCK OUT!! Find another country that is better to live in. As a parent I will do all I can to keep my daughter safe, that includes keep track of sickos in my area. In fact it is also completely legal to post a sign such as smutt butt did and I applaud her for it. As long as the basic information given on the county or state website is not altered, she merely stated "convicted peadophile" which was true, if she had stated he was a "murderer" and he was not convicted of that then that would not be legally right. As far as depriving these sick bastards of the right to practice the religion of their choice, how does making sure they don't live too close to a church mean they can't drive to church. My parents drug me to church until I was 16, we always had to get in the car and drive, we never lived close enough to walk, we always felt we had freedom to practice religion. My 8 year old daughters rights to grow up untouched by sick bastards like this should outweigh their rights to anything. My daughter and I live alone in a nice neighborhood. We have a security system however with the rising concerns about cases like BTK and other peadophiles, I have been thinking of getting a gun. How else would I stop someone like this from harming her? I am not in the physical shape to force him myself. I shouldn't be put in that position. A boy in our area was given a camera cell phone by his parents, one day as he was walking to school, (his parents let him walk a couple of blocks to school) a peadophile tried to pick him up, he took his picture and the peadophile (who was registered) was picked up and violated back to jail. Do I really have to get my 8 year old a camera cell phone in order for her to be protected? Let me also say that I would NEVER let my daughter walk or ride her bike to schoool, it was hard enough for me to let her take the bus. How about one of those GPS watches so I can track her via my home computer?? I shouldn't have to do that but what else are parents left to when the state can't control these bastards? Ok, lethalfind, you facist fuck, PAY ATTENTION. This country was created on the promise of freedom and equlity. As such, our forefathers, while writting the Constitution, SPECIFICALLY MADE SURE THAT ALL MEN WERE EQUAL BEFORE THE LAW. As such, the rights of one person ARE NEVER worth more or less then those of another person. I do not like sex offenders any more then you do, but I cannot sit by and allow narrow minded individuals like yourself to violate the rights of others...even if it is for a good cause. Benjamin Franklin said ""They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." What this means is that people who trade thier liberties, rights under the law, and essential freedoms for A LITTLE BIT OF TEMPORARY SECURITY do not deserve to have either. He knew that once it was given up there was no way to get it back. I will not have ignorant asses like you and that hapless fuckstick, MRIH, giving up the freedoms so many good people have died to provide us with, for a little bit of temporary security. If you cannot handle that I suggest you move out of this country. Thanks. In regards to: As far as the Federal Government and the individual states not having the right to legislate where peadophiles can live, that is frankly NOT TRUE, you need to do a little reading besides your comic books and this blog sight, we do IN FACT have those rights and we are exercising them. You may feel morally we should not however LEGALLY we do. If you don't like it, you have the freedom to GET THE FUCK OUT!! Find another country that is better to live in. As a parent I will do all I can to keep my daughter safe, that includes keep track of sickos in my area. In fact it is also completely legal to post a sign such as smutt butt did and I applaud her for it. As long as the basic information given on the county or state website is not altered, she merely stated "convicted peadophile" which was true, if she had stated he was a "murderer" and he was not convicted of that then that would not be legally right. Frankly, YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO MAKE THIS LAW. The UNITED STATES CONSITITUTION ABOSLUTELY FORBIDS IT AND SINCE THE CONSTITUTION IS THE SUPREME LAW OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA ... YOU CANNOT MAKE THAT LAW. DEAL WITH IT OR GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE UNITED STATES. Quote I'm not having a tantrum...I'm not...I'm not...I'm not...I'm going to sue your ass...whawwwwwwww. Iran's useless government will disarm or be destroyed. As a matter of personal preference; I prefer the latter. FUCK IRAN, FUCK TERRORISTS, AND FUCK ALL THOSE WHO SUPPORT THEM!!!
tizz Posted August 21, 2005 Posted August 21, 2005 I took off a squirrel tail by mistake once with it EEEP! And I was also able to get my cousin in the arse once pretty good. I am SOOOOOOOOO not into guns but I like shooting targets and I enjoy archery. Quote "An intelligence that is not humane is the most dangerous thing in the world" Ashley Montague "No one should have to walk alone" Phuong Du "An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind" Ghandi "If I were asked to define an American in a single phrase, I would say 'An American is a person who has the right to be different' and I think that right is growing" William Manchester
Msixty Posted August 21, 2005 Posted August 21, 2005 I am SOOOOOOOOO not into guns. i hate you joking, but you like archery huh? hunting or recreational targeting? Quote Your stupidity is My weapon WARNING! my mood and mental state are strongly influenced by music and T.V./movies..... i may seem the slightest bit insane.. just don't let me watch my favorite show and or listen to my music and it will all be alright.
tizz Posted August 21, 2005 Posted August 21, 2005 Again. TH, I think you are arguing the wrong points here. You should be finding sources to back up the idea of seperating non violent sex crimes from violent ones and alowing those accused of harrassment and statutory rape to reopen their cases and have their nemes removed from any lists (especially in cases where the accusor agrees to it) There are DEFINATELY precidents to be found for that. As for violent sex criminals, they are not only more dangerous but also a lot more likely to repeat their crimes and should therefore be considered a constant threat to society. Quote "An intelligence that is not humane is the most dangerous thing in the world" Ashley Montague "No one should have to walk alone" Phuong Du "An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind" Ghandi "If I were asked to define an American in a single phrase, I would say 'An American is a person who has the right to be different' and I think that right is growing" William Manchester
TerroristHater Posted August 21, 2005 Posted August 21, 2005 and ill stick with my guns, well, i guess a 1911 would be a nice addition, but i don't see a red rider stopping anything....unless you get kidnapped or raped by soda cans Those are nice weapons, but they are so ... World War II... and aside from that ... finding ammunition that will fit a Bar 1911 is next to impossible. Good luck though (You have good taste in weapons) Quote I'm not having a tantrum...I'm not...I'm not...I'm not...I'm going to sue your ass...whawwwwwwww. Iran's useless government will disarm or be destroyed. As a matter of personal preference; I prefer the latter. FUCK IRAN, FUCK TERRORISTS, AND FUCK ALL THOSE WHO SUPPORT THEM!!!
tizz Posted August 21, 2005 Posted August 21, 2005 i hate you joking, but you like archery huh? hunting or recreational targeting? I would never hunt unless I had to, and I no longer own any equipment, so it's only when I get the chance and only paper targets. I am a pacifist, remember? Animals fall into that as well (those spiders and other creepy crawlies are on their own!) Quote "An intelligence that is not humane is the most dangerous thing in the world" Ashley Montague "No one should have to walk alone" Phuong Du "An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind" Ghandi "If I were asked to define an American in a single phrase, I would say 'An American is a person who has the right to be different' and I think that right is growing" William Manchester
Msixty Posted August 21, 2005 Posted August 21, 2005 Those are nice weapons, but they are so ... World War II... and aside from that ... finding ammunition that will fit a Bar 1911 is next to impossible. Good luck though (You have good taste in weapons) theres nothing wrong with classics, some guns they just made right the first time, and I'm looking into a newer model by S&W my step-dad might get me one if i get good grades this year (now don't i just sound like a little kid) Quote Your stupidity is My weapon WARNING! my mood and mental state are strongly influenced by music and T.V./movies..... i may seem the slightest bit insane.. just don't let me watch my favorite show and or listen to my music and it will all be alright.
Msixty Posted August 21, 2005 Posted August 21, 2005 I would never hunt unless I had to, and I no longer own any equipment, so it's only when I get the chance and only paper targets. I am a pacifist, remember? Animals fall into that as well (those spiders and other creepy crawlies are on their own!) i try to just put spiders and such on paper sheets and throw them out the door, they annoy me but i see no real reason to kill them (unless its just too much trouble then they go flat) and guns are fun to shoot at targets, its just more fun to see a bowling pin go spinning through the air or be vaporised Quote Your stupidity is My weapon WARNING! my mood and mental state are strongly influenced by music and T.V./movies..... i may seem the slightest bit insane.. just don't let me watch my favorite show and or listen to my music and it will all be alright.
TerroristHater Posted August 21, 2005 Posted August 21, 2005 theres nothing wrong with classics, some guns they just made right the first time, and I'm looking into a newer model by S&W my step-dad might get me one if i get good grades this year (now don't i just sound like a little kid) I hope you get those weapons. You're right, there is nothing wrong with the classics. You mave have difficulty finding ammo for them, but they are still worth owning. Quote I'm not having a tantrum...I'm not...I'm not...I'm not...I'm going to sue your ass...whawwwwwwww. Iran's useless government will disarm or be destroyed. As a matter of personal preference; I prefer the latter. FUCK IRAN, FUCK TERRORISTS, AND FUCK ALL THOSE WHO SUPPORT THEM!!!
TerroristHater Posted August 21, 2005 Posted August 21, 2005 Again. TH, I think you are arguing the wrong points here. You should be finding sources to back up the idea of seperating non violent sex crimes from violent ones and alowing those accused of harrassment and statutory rape to reopen their cases and have their nemes removed from any lists (especially in cases where the accusor agrees to it) There are DEFINATELY precidents to be found for that. As for violent sex criminals, they are not only more dangerous but also a lot more likely to repeat their crimes and should therefore be considered a constant threat to society. Perhaps so, but the law in and of itself is unconstitutional. We should never give up our rights for a little temporary safety. It's not a good trade. Once we give these rights up there is no getting them back. The law itself is unconstitutional. As a former Sailor who served his country proudly, I cannot stand the idea of people willingly giving away the liberties so many people bought with thier lives. When you really think about it the U.S. Constitution is a contract between the government and the people. It is a contract for which the freedoms it delivers where paid for in blood. Giving up these rights in such a foolish manner is quite literally a slap across the face of every solider, militiaman, minuteman, or common farmer who has ever died in defense of this country. Whether their sacrafice was made fighting for our country's independence or whether is was made yestarday in Iraq doesn't matter; what matters is that it was made in blood by somebody who so loved his country he was willing to die to protect it. When you support laws like this one you are forgetting everbody whoever died to defend your rights and freedoms. - TH Quote I'm not having a tantrum...I'm not...I'm not...I'm not...I'm going to sue your ass...whawwwwwwww. Iran's useless government will disarm or be destroyed. As a matter of personal preference; I prefer the latter. FUCK IRAN, FUCK TERRORISTS, AND FUCK ALL THOSE WHO SUPPORT THEM!!!
tizz Posted August 21, 2005 Posted August 21, 2005 Well I consider a sex crime unconstitutional as well. If oyu commit a crime like rape child molestation and teh like, you don't deserve the privelage of the rights held by those who are innocent of breaking the law. I would say it was unconstitutional to rip rights away from an innocent person, but not a sex offender (perhaps I am biased here do to personal experience but I say if you break the law you don't deserve the same rights I have) Hell I quit smoking pot when I went to college because I knew if I got caught I would loose my financial aide. There are consequences and if you CHOOSE to break the law you better be willing to take it like a man dammit! Quote "An intelligence that is not humane is the most dangerous thing in the world" Ashley Montague "No one should have to walk alone" Phuong Du "An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind" Ghandi "If I were asked to define an American in a single phrase, I would say 'An American is a person who has the right to be different' and I think that right is growing" William Manchester
TerroristHater Posted August 21, 2005 Posted August 21, 2005 Well I consider a sex crime unconstitutional as well. If oyu commit a crime like rape child molestation and teh like, you don't deserve the privelage of the rights held by those who are innocent of breaking the law. I would say it was unconstitutional to rip rights away from an innocent person, but not a sex offender (perhaps I am biased here do to personal experience but I say if you break the law you don't deserve the same rights I have) Hell I quit smoking pot when I went to college because I knew if I got caught I would loose my financial aide. There are consequences and if you CHOOSE to break the law you better be willing to take it like a man dammit! Sex crimes are illegal (as they should be) but they are not considered a constitutional matter. I respect your opinions, but there certain inalienable rights EVERY American is entitled to have no matter their status. Criminals in general lose some of thier rights, but they do not lose all of them. They still have the right to practice whatever religon they chose. The government of Florida does not have the right to interfear in that right, which is exactly what they have done. Don't you understand that when the government takes away the liberties of one class they take them away from all classes? What Osceola, Florida has done is trade liberty for a little temporary saftey. Exactly how many sex offenders do you think are going to follow this rule anyway? I will not see a group of Floridian fucksticks trade the liberty I fought to protect for some stupid mesure of mostly non-existant temporary saftey. -TH Quote I'm not having a tantrum...I'm not...I'm not...I'm not...I'm going to sue your ass...whawwwwwwww. Iran's useless government will disarm or be destroyed. As a matter of personal preference; I prefer the latter. FUCK IRAN, FUCK TERRORISTS, AND FUCK ALL THOSE WHO SUPPORT THEM!!!
Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell Posted August 21, 2005 Author Posted August 21, 2005 Criminals in general lose some of thier rights, but they do not lose all of them.You started this shit by saying they do not loose any of their rights... So I guess you have changed your oppinion... Which rights do they loose, and which ones do they keep, and who the hell is the judge of that? YOU? I shudder to think someone as stupid and wishy-washy as you would be in charge of choosing which rights criminals are to keep and which ones they loose. Quote The first amendment provides our constitution with its voice. The second amendment provides its teeth.
tizz Posted August 21, 2005 Posted August 21, 2005 Like I said, personal experience leaves me biased and I admit it. Quote "An intelligence that is not humane is the most dangerous thing in the world" Ashley Montague "No one should have to walk alone" Phuong Du "An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind" Ghandi "If I were asked to define an American in a single phrase, I would say 'An American is a person who has the right to be different' and I think that right is growing" William Manchester
TerroristHater Posted August 21, 2005 Posted August 21, 2005 You started this shit by saying they do not loose any of their rights... So I guess you have changed your oppinion... Which rights do they loose, and which ones do they keep, and who the hell is the judge of that? YOU? I shudder to think someone as stupid and wishy-washy as you would be in charge of choosing which rights criminals are to keep and which ones they loose. The Constitution mandates which rights go and which stay. Felons do not lose thier 1st Amendment rights, but most lose thier 2nd Amendment rights, as well as the right to vote (I do not remember which Amendment this falls under) however, they can petition the court and have their right to vote restored. Also... the only stupid person I see in here is you. You are a hate-mongering asshole who likes to go out of his way to send the wrong message. I'm guessing you're a KKK asshole or some other form of race-hating assclown who was toilet trained at gun point. You are the one that wants to trade liberty for a little extra safety. I would say that makes YOU the stupid one. I suggest you think long and hard about what you're giving up....then get a GED.... you dumb bastard. -TH Quote I'm not having a tantrum...I'm not...I'm not...I'm not...I'm going to sue your ass...whawwwwwwww. Iran's useless government will disarm or be destroyed. As a matter of personal preference; I prefer the latter. FUCK IRAN, FUCK TERRORISTS, AND FUCK ALL THOSE WHO SUPPORT THEM!!!
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