TerroristHater Posted August 21, 2005 Posted August 21, 2005 Like I said, personal experience leaves me biased and I admit it. Understandably so. Quote I'm not having a tantrum...I'm not...I'm not...I'm not...I'm going to sue your ass...whawwwwwwww. Iran's useless government will disarm or be destroyed. As a matter of personal preference; I prefer the latter. FUCK IRAN, FUCK TERRORISTS, AND FUCK ALL THOSE WHO SUPPORT THEM!!!
Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell Posted August 21, 2005 Author Posted August 21, 2005 The Constitution mandates which rights go and which stay.No it doesn't... the only reference to loosing any rights is that the governement can not deny a person of life, liberty or property without due process of law... (or didn't you know, "Law Master") Felons do not lose thier 1st Amendment rights, but most lose thier 2nd Amendment rights, as well as the right to vote (I do not remember which Amendment this falls under) however, they can petition the court and have their right to vote restored. So who decides which rights they retain or loose? It is NOT in the constitution... I'll tell you, moron boy... any right and all rights may be disparaged to a convicted felon. Also... the only stupid person I see in here is you.try a mirror. You are a hate-mongering asshole who likes to go out of his way to send the wrong message.opposing oppinion is niuther right nor wrong, moron... BTW did you vote in the why you are so stupid poll yet? enquiring minds want to know. I'm guessing you're a KKK asshole or some other form of race-hating assclown who was toilet trained at gun point.You should from guessing since your to stupid to base any hypothesis on fact. You are the one that wants to trade liberty for a little extra safety.No I want to trade PEDOPHILES liberty for security of my CHLIDREN. You dim witted welp of a baboon. I would say that makes YOU the stupid one.No, it makes my oppinion (which is based on fact) differ from yours (which is based on fantasy)... that makes YOU the stupid-ass that you are. I suggest you think long and hard about what you're giving up....then get a GED.... you dumb bastard.I would suggest you obtain your GED, but you should have a third grade education first, so I'll spare you, just remain stupid. Quote The first amendment provides our constitution with its voice. The second amendment provides its teeth.
TerroristHater Posted August 21, 2005 Posted August 21, 2005 No it doesn't... the only reference to loosing any rights is that the governement can not deny a person of life, liberty or property without due process of law... (or didn't you know, "Law Master") So who decides which rights they retain or loose? It is NOT in the constitution... I'll tell you, moron boy... any right and all rights may be disparaged to a convicted felon. try a mirror. opposing oppinion is niuther right nor wrong, moron... BTW did you vote in the why you are so stupid poll yet? enquiring minds want to know. You should from guessing since your to stupid to base any hypothesis on fact. No I want to trade PEDOPHILES liberty for security of my CHLIDREN. You dim witted welp of a baboon. No, it makes my oppinion (which is based on fact) differ from yours (which is based on fantasy)... that makes YOU the stupid-ass that you are. I would suggest you obtain your GED, but you should have a third grade education first, so I'll spare you, just remain stupid. No I want to trade PEDOPHILES liberty for security of my CHLIDREN. You dim witted welp of a baboon. <----- YOU FUCKING IGNORANT DUMBFUCK.... YOU ARE TRADING EVERYBODIES LIBERTY. NOT JUST THE PEDOPHILES. IT'S A SHAME YOU ARE TOO FUCKING STUPID TO REALIZE THAT. ONCE YOU LET THE GOVERNMENT TAKE AWAY FOR ONE CLASS OF PEOPLE THEY HAVE A PRECENDENT TO TAKE IT AWAY FROM THE REST OF US. AND I DO NOT WANT TO LOSE MY LIBERTY BECAUSE A STUPID FUCKING HALFWIT COCKSUCKER LIKE YOU LACKS THE FUCKING FORESIGHT TO SEE THE BIG FUCKING PICTURE. YOU FUCKING MORON FUCKWIT SON OF BITCH. NOT ONE FUCKING THING YOU HAVE EVER SAID HAS BEEN BASED ON FACT, BUT RATHER THE MINDLESS BABBLINGS OF A FUCKING IDIOT FACIST FUCKIWIT. IF YOU ARE NOT INTELLIGENT ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND THAT GIVING THE GOVERNMENT A PRECEDENT WITH WHICH TO TAKE AWAY EVERYBODYS LIBERTY YOU ARE TOO FUCKING STUPID TO BE AN AMERICAN. YOU DELUDED FUCKTARD. PLEASE JUST SHOOT YOURSELF AND GET IT OVERWITH Quote I'm not having a tantrum...I'm not...I'm not...I'm not...I'm going to sue your ass...whawwwwwwww. Iran's useless government will disarm or be destroyed. As a matter of personal preference; I prefer the latter. FUCK IRAN, FUCK TERRORISTS, AND FUCK ALL THOSE WHO SUPPORT THEM!!!
RegisteredAndEducated Posted August 21, 2005 Posted August 21, 2005 So if they can't stop people from moving into houses that are X amount of feet/yards from churches b/c it is against the law, tell me how restaurants, bars, and "package" stores are banned from selling alcohol within X distance of a church. I'm not sure if this is a national law, but it is definately a GA state law. I'll see if I can find it on the books and repost the exact code at another time... Quote Intelligent people think... how ignorance must be bliss.... idiots have it so easy, it's not fair... to have to think... WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE TO BE AMONG THOSE FORTUNATE MASSES..... Hey, "Non-believers" I've just got one thing to say to ya... If you're right, then what difference does it make, it wont matter when we're dead anyway... But if I'm right... Well, hey... Ya better be right...
hugo Posted August 21, 2005 Posted August 21, 2005 The Constitution mandates which rights go and which stay. Felons do not lose thier 1st Amendment rights, but most lose thier 2nd Amendment rights, as well as the right to vote (I do not remember which Amendment this falls under) however, they can petition the court and have their right to vote restored. Also... the only stupid person I see in here is you. You are a hate-mongering asshole who likes to go out of his way to send the wrong message. I'm guessing you're a KKK asshole or some other form of race-hating assclown who was toilet trained at gun point. You are the one that wants to trade liberty for a little extra safety. I would say that makes YOU the stupid one. I suggest you think long and hard about what you're giving up....then get a GED.... you dumb bastard. -TH You are incredibly stupid. Nothing in the Constitution states felons lose their 2nd Amendment rights, but keep their 1st. Nor does it say they lose the right to vote. In fact, in some states felons have the right to vote. By and large, felons lose the right to bear arms. This is because the courts find that the states have a significant interest in preventing violent crime and this overcomes the due process and equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment. The courts have properly left it up to the states to determine the restrictions placed on ex-cons in this area. Similarly, there are laws in many localities preventing sex offendors from living near schools or churches. These laws have generally been upheld. Most of these laws restict felons from living within 500 feet of a school or house of worship. The 2000 foot restriction has been overruled in at least one case because it was found it significantly harmed the ex sex offendor after he had already been sentenced. It did not rule on if sex offendors who committed their offense after the enactment of the law would be immune to such a law. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell Posted August 21, 2005 Author Posted August 21, 2005 NOT ONE FUCKING THING YOU HAVE EVER SAID HAS BEEN BASED ON FACT YOU DELUDED FUCKTARD. PLEASE JUST SHOOT YOURSELF AND GET IT OVERWITHC'mon TH... can't answer the questions? Too stupid, too lazy, can't focus? need your ridlin? C'mon "Law Master" show me where I'm wrong. Don't just throw out red herrings and scamper off... stand like a man and debate! Quote The first amendment provides our constitution with its voice. The second amendment provides its teeth.
tizz Posted August 21, 2005 Posted August 21, 2005 I live in a school zone and face much harsher punishments for drug charges than if I lived around the block. Are you telling me I should take that to the supreme court because it is unconstitutional? Damn and people say I am liberal LOL Quote "An intelligence that is not humane is the most dangerous thing in the world" Ashley Montague "No one should have to walk alone" Phuong Du "An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind" Ghandi "If I were asked to define an American in a single phrase, I would say 'An American is a person who has the right to be different' and I think that right is growing" William Manchester
TerroristHater Posted August 22, 2005 Posted August 22, 2005 So if they can't stop people from moving into houses that are X amount of feet/yards from churches b/c it is against the law, tell me how restaurants, bars, and "package" stores are banned from selling alcohol within X distance of a church. I'm not sure if this is a national law, but it is definately a GA state law. I'll see if I can find it on the books and repost the exact code at another time... The United States Consititution specifically forbids them from preventing people from accessing churches. It's a right, gauranteed to ALL AMERICANS (yes, even criminals, MRIH, you fucking ignorant dumb ass) and is one of the principals this country is fonded on. Georgia's ligour ordinances are probably the result of an overly religous governing official. Quote I'm not having a tantrum...I'm not...I'm not...I'm not...I'm going to sue your ass...whawwwwwwww. Iran's useless government will disarm or be destroyed. As a matter of personal preference; I prefer the latter. FUCK IRAN, FUCK TERRORISTS, AND FUCK ALL THOSE WHO SUPPORT THEM!!!
TerroristHater Posted August 22, 2005 Posted August 22, 2005 I live in a school zone and face much harsher punishments for drug charges than if I lived around the block. Are you telling me I should take that to the supreme court because it is unconstitutional? Damn and people say I am liberal LOL It has nothing to do with being LIBERAL, tizz, it has EVERYTHING to do with protecing our liberty. Unfortunately, some people (MRIH for example) are not smart enough to see how important that is. Quote I'm not having a tantrum...I'm not...I'm not...I'm not...I'm going to sue your ass...whawwwwwwww. Iran's useless government will disarm or be destroyed. As a matter of personal preference; I prefer the latter. FUCK IRAN, FUCK TERRORISTS, AND FUCK ALL THOSE WHO SUPPORT THEM!!!
angie Posted August 22, 2005 Posted August 22, 2005 Being a convicted felon CHANGES YOUR RIGHTS. When you COMMIT A FELONY you lose those rights. End of story. And you bet your ass if I decide to send my daughter to a church-based daycare, I want to be sure there are NO SEX OFFENDERS LIVING NEXT DOOR!! I would do my own check on the online database, regardless, but I don't see that as being unfair. It was their choice to break the law, they have to live with it. 1 Quote http://www.darwinawards.com/ http://www.snopes.com http://www.breakthechain.org STOP THE SPAM!! Click Me You Know You Want To
TerroristHater Posted August 22, 2005 Posted August 22, 2005 You are incredibly stupid. Nothing in the Constitution states felons lose their 2nd Amendment rights, but keep their 1st. Nor does it say they lose the right to vote. In fact, in some states felons have the right to vote. By and large, felons lose the right to bear arms. This is because the courts find that the states have a significant interest in preventing violent crime and this overcomes the due process and equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment. The courts have properly left it up to the states to determine the restrictions placed on ex-cons in this area. Similarly, there are laws in many localities preventing sex offendors from living near schools or churches. These laws have generally been upheld. Most of these laws restict felons from living within 500 feet of a school or house of worship. The 2000 foot restriction has been overruled in at least one case because it was found it significantly harmed the ex sex offendor after he had already been sentenced. It did not rule on if sex offendors who committed their offense after the enactment of the law would be immune to such a law. You are the stupid one. The Iowa supreme court threw out that law and others have since followed. Speaking as the brother of an ex-convict I can tell you FOR A FUCKING FACT that felons lose their right to vote. Also... the rights granted to Americans under the 1st amendment ARE NOT SUBJECT TO BEING TAKEN AWAY BASED ON WHAT CRIMES PEOPLE COMMIT. The states CANNOT MAKE LAWS WHICH RUN CONTRARY TO THE CONSTITUTION, WHICH IS WHAT THIS TYPE OF LAW SO CLEARLY DOES. GET THIS THROUGH YOU HEAD... THE CONSTITUTION TRUMPS ALL DUMB FUCK STATE LAWS CREATED BY DUMB FUCKING STATE LEVEL FUCKHOLES WHO ARE DECIDING LEGAL ISSUES BASED ON HOW THEY FEEL RATHER THEN WHAT THE LAW STATES. THE CONSTITUTION IS THE SUPREME LAW OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICAN AND NO HALF-WIT STATE FUCKHOLE IS GOING TO MAKE A LAW THAT RUNS CONTRARY TO IT. IF YOU DO NOT LIKE IT YOU CAN GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE UNITED STATES. Quote I'm not having a tantrum...I'm not...I'm not...I'm not...I'm going to sue your ass...whawwwwwwww. Iran's useless government will disarm or be destroyed. As a matter of personal preference; I prefer the latter. FUCK IRAN, FUCK TERRORISTS, AND FUCK ALL THOSE WHO SUPPORT THEM!!!
Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell Posted August 22, 2005 Author Posted August 22, 2005 YOU FUCKING IGNORANT DUMBFUCK.... YOU ARE TRADING EVERYBODIES LIBERTY. NOT JUST THE PEDOPHILES. IT'S A SHAME YOU ARE TOO FUCKING STUPID TO REALIZE THAT.Woah, moron-boy tone down the caps... the caps lock is for retards.. oh, my mistake, by all means use the caps lock... Anyway, Convicted pedophiles are not just another "class of people" they are convicted felons who have lost their rights. They should be mercilessly, and ruthlessly euthanized. ONCE YOU LET THE GOVERNMENT TAKE AWAY FOR ONE CLASS OF PEOPLE THEY HAVE A PRECENDENT TO TAKE IT AWAY FROM THE REST OF US.Well, they would have to label us all felons, with due proccess of law, to accomplish that. I wouldn't put it passed them to actually do that, but if it every gets to that point, then all hope is really lost anyway. AND I DO NOT WANT TO LOSE MY LIBERTY BECAUSE A STUPID FUCKING HALFWIT COCKSUCKER LIKE YOU LACKS THE FUCKING FORESIGHT TO SEE THE BIG FUCKING PICTURE.Again, you dim-wiited moron, if you don't like it then go move to france... I'm sure you make friends with all of the girly-men pedophiles that that country has to offer. YOU FUCKING MORON FUCKWIT SON OF BITCH. You are so clever, how do you think up these brilliant one-liners? NOT ONE FUCKING THING YOU HAVE EVER SAID HAS BEEN BASED ON FACT, BUT RATHER THE MINDLESS BABBLINGS OF A FUCKING IDIOT FACIST FUCKIWIT.Well I admit, I gave your mother an undeserved rating and ill-reasearched title of "baboon", She was probably just the high school slut that fucked the janitor in the mop closet and produced you... Not well researched, but since she only fed you sugar and left you for hours on end while she was out partying all night with the "boys" and left you with your "ADHD" problem, I'm not far off from the truth! IF YOU ARE NOT INTELLIGENT ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND THAT GIVING THE GOVERNMENT A PRECEDENT WITH WHICH TO TAKE AWAY EVERYBODYS LIBERTY YOU ARE TOO FUCKING STUPID TO BE AN AMERICAN.I really don't care what they do to convicted pedophiles. I will never be in their "class" as you so believe that you are. YOU DELUDED FUCKTARD.another brilliant one-liner! Ever think of writing for Leno? PLEASE JUST SHOOT YOURSELF AND GET IT OVERWITHBrilliant, simply brilliant! Quote The first amendment provides our constitution with its voice. The second amendment provides its teeth.
TerroristHater Posted August 22, 2005 Posted August 22, 2005 C'mon TH... can't answer the questions? Too stupid, too lazy, can't focus? need your ridlin? C'mon "Law Master" show me where I'm wrong. Don't just throw out red herrings and scamper off... stand like a man and debate! I have repeatedly pointed out how the US CONSTITUTION trumps the state laws and even federal laws. WHat you fail to realize is this: If you allow the government to pass a law that discrimiates against one class of people, you are giving them an open invitation to do the same thing to every other class of people. Once your idiocy allows them to circumvent the constitution for one class of people HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT WILL TAKE THEM TO MAKE A LAW THAT DISRCIMIATES AGAINST THE REST OF THE PEOPLE? Our libery is being stolen from us one piece at a time and by allowing or supporting this type of law you are feeding the monster that is stealing what our (or should I say MY) forefathers gave me when they drafted the constitution. In then end, this argument has nothing to do with pedophiles, but rather, the stealing of liberty from ALL AMERICANS. As a nation, the american people MUST seek to protect our liberty at ALL COSTS; EVEN IF IT MEANS SQAUSHING A LAW DESIGNED TO PROTECT CHILDREN FROM PEDOPHILES. Freedom is not now nor has it ever been FREE. The minute people like George W. Bush find a way to steal our liberty from us they WILL act on it. For that reason, and to prevent our country from becoming everything our forefathers left behind when they came to this country 200 years ago, WE MUST NOT ALLOW THE GOVERNMENT TO TAKE AWAY OUR LIBERTY. Please understand that the impact of such legislation. It will give governments FREE REIGN to discriminate against whomever they want whenever they want. Belive me when I tell you. It may start with the undesireable sections of the popluation but it WILL NOT end there. That is what I am saying. Do not let the government take away your liberty under the guise of protecting your children. Tell them no. Tell them you will not tolerate thier attempts to steal the rights granted to all Americans by Americas founding fathers. -TH Quote I'm not having a tantrum...I'm not...I'm not...I'm not...I'm going to sue your ass...whawwwwwwww. Iran's useless government will disarm or be destroyed. As a matter of personal preference; I prefer the latter. FUCK IRAN, FUCK TERRORISTS, AND FUCK ALL THOSE WHO SUPPORT THEM!!!
TerroristHater Posted August 22, 2005 Posted August 22, 2005 Woah, moron-boy tone down the caps... the caps lock is for retards.. oh, my mistake, by all means use the caps lock... Anyway, Convicted pedophiles are not just another "class of people" they are convicted felons who have lost their rights. They should be mercilessly, and ruthlessly euthanized. Well, they would have to label us all felons, with due proccess of law, to accomplish that. I wouldn't put it passed them to actually do that, but if it every gets to that point, then all hope is really lost anyway. Again, you dim-wiited moron, if you don't like it then go move to france... I'm sure you make friends with all of the girly-men pedophiles that that country has to offer. You are so clever, how do you think up these brilliant one-liners? Well I admit, I gave your mother an undeserved rating and ill-reasearched title of "baboon", She was probably just the high school slut that fucked the janitor in the mop closet and produced you... Not well researched, but since she only fed you sugar and left you for hours on end while she was out partying all night with the "boys" and left you with your "ADHD" problem, I'm not far off from the truth! I really don't care what they do to convicted pedophiles. I will never be in their "class" as you so believe that you are. another brilliant one-liner! Ever think of writing for Leno? Brilliant, simply brilliant! really don't care what they do to convicted pedophiles. I will never be in their "class" as you so believe that you are. IT WILL NOT STOP WITH THE PEDOPHILES... IT WILL SPREAD BEYOND THAT. CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT? ARE YOU REALLY SO FUCKING STUPID THAT YOU CANNOT FIGURE OUT THAT THE GOVERNMENT WILL USE THIS LAW A LAUNCHING PAD TO FREELY DISCRIMINATE AGAINST WHOMEVER WHENVER IT SUITS THEM TO FUCKING DO SO? - TH Quote I'm not having a tantrum...I'm not...I'm not...I'm not...I'm going to sue your ass...whawwwwwwww. Iran's useless government will disarm or be destroyed. As a matter of personal preference; I prefer the latter. FUCK IRAN, FUCK TERRORISTS, AND FUCK ALL THOSE WHO SUPPORT THEM!!!
TerroristHater Posted August 22, 2005 Posted August 22, 2005 Being a convicted felon CHANGES YOUR RIGHTS. When you COMMIT A FELONY you lose those rights. End of story. And you bet your ass if I decide to send my daughter to a church-based daycare, I want to be sure there are NO SEX OFFENDERS LIVING NEXT DOOR!! I would do my own check on the online database, regardless, but I don't see that as being unfair. It was their choice to break the law, they have to live with it. No, you stupid cunt, it does not. Felons lose SOME RIGHTS ... BUT NOT ALL RIGHTS ALL AMERICANS ... EVEN PEDOPHILES AND PEOPLE LIKE MRIH ARE ENTITLED TO THE FREEDOM OF RELIGON. I SUGGEST YOU FIGURE THAT OUT Quote I'm not having a tantrum...I'm not...I'm not...I'm not...I'm going to sue your ass...whawwwwwwww. Iran's useless government will disarm or be destroyed. As a matter of personal preference; I prefer the latter. FUCK IRAN, FUCK TERRORISTS, AND FUCK ALL THOSE WHO SUPPORT THEM!!!
Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell Posted August 22, 2005 Author Posted August 22, 2005 You are the stupid one.brilliant! I wish had your ability to come with such originality! The Iowa supreme court threw out that law and others have since followed. Speaking as the brother of an ex-convict I can tell you FOR A FUCKING FACT that felons lose their right to vote.voting rights are granted by the individual states as long as those states adhere to the constutionality of granting those rights, ie. age over 18, gender, race etc. If a state dissallows convicts to vote they certainly can, or they may vote... I believe there are a few states that actually allow prisoners to vote. Also... the rights granted to Americans under the 1st amendment ARE NOT SUBJECT TO BEING TAKEN AWAY BASED ON WHAT CRIMES PEOPLE COMMIT. I beg to differ, but by all means show your proof! The states CANNOT MAKE LAWS WHICH RUN CONTRARY TO THE CONSTITUTION, WHICH IS WHAT THIS TYPE OF LAW SO CLEARLY DOES.The law sounds constitutional to me. (read the 5th ammendment, "Law MAster") GET THIS THROUGH YOU HEAD... THE CONSTITUTION TRUMPS ALL DUMB FUCK STATE LAWS CREATED BY DUMB FUCKING STATE LEVEL FUCKHOLES WHO ARE DECIDING LEGAL ISSUES BASED ON HOW THEY FEEL RATHER THEN WHAT THE LAW STATES.Great! THE CONSTITUTION IS THE SUPREME LAW OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICAN AND NO HALF-WIT STATE FUCKHOLE IS GOING TO MAKE A LAW THAT RUNS CONTRARY TO IT.True. IF YOU DO NOT LIKE IT YOU CAN GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE UNITED STATES. Then leave. Quote The first amendment provides our constitution with its voice. The second amendment provides its teeth.
Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell Posted August 22, 2005 Author Posted August 22, 2005 No, you stupid cunt, it does not. Felons lose SOME RIGHTS ... BUT NOT ALL RIGHTS ALL AMERICANS ... EVEN PEDOPHILES AND PEOPLE LIKE MRIH ARE ENTITLED TO THE FREEDOM OF RELIGON. I SUGGEST YOU FIGURE THAT OUT I have asked you time and again... WHICH RIGHTS ARE LOST AND WHICH RIGHTS ARE RETAINED BY CONVICTED PEDOPHILES? .... AND MORE IMPORTANTLY .... YOUR PROOF. Quote The first amendment provides our constitution with its voice. The second amendment provides its teeth.
TerroristHater Posted August 22, 2005 Posted August 22, 2005 No, you stupid cunt, it does not. Felons lose SOME RIGHTS ... BUT NOT ALL RIGHTS ALL AMERICANS ... EVEN PEDOPHILES AND PEOPLE LIKE MRIH ARE ENTITLED TO THE FREEDOM OF RELIGON. I SUGGEST YOU FIGURE THAT OUT Also... you have to look at the BIG PICTURE and keep in mind that you cannot expect the government discriminate against just one class. Once you let the government do that to the pedophiles they WILL DO IT TO THE REST OF THE FREE WORLD. I am sorry you are not smart enough to realize what you are giving away. Which means you do not deserve liberty or safety. You deservce to move your dumb whore ass the fuck out this country and NEVER COME BACK. Quote I'm not having a tantrum...I'm not...I'm not...I'm not...I'm going to sue your ass...whawwwwwwww. Iran's useless government will disarm or be destroyed. As a matter of personal preference; I prefer the latter. FUCK IRAN, FUCK TERRORISTS, AND FUCK ALL THOSE WHO SUPPORT THEM!!!
tizz Posted August 22, 2005 Posted August 22, 2005 So in order to protect my own rights, i should fight for the rights of those that show NO regard for our society or the laws that govern it? You are looking at anarchy there. There MUST be consequences for our actions. Quote "An intelligence that is not humane is the most dangerous thing in the world" Ashley Montague "No one should have to walk alone" Phuong Du "An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind" Ghandi "If I were asked to define an American in a single phrase, I would say 'An American is a person who has the right to be different' and I think that right is growing" William Manchester
TerroristHater Posted August 22, 2005 Posted August 22, 2005 I have asked you time and again... WHICH RIGHTS ARE LOST AND WHICH RIGHTS ARE RETAINED BY CONVICTED PEDOPHILES? .... AND MORE IMPORTANTLY .... YOUR PROOF. AND I ANSWERED YOU AND YOU REPLIED TO ME. SO FUCK OFF. RIGHTS THAT ARE LOST The right to vote (in most states) The right to bear arms (in SOME states) There are more, but as stated above, it varies by the state (mostly the IQ of the people running the state) RIGHTS THAT ARE NOT LOST The right to freedom of religon (This includes access to or being in proximity of chruches, which is why Florida's law, much like a similar law in Iowa, WILL BE OVERTURNED. The right to freedom of speech (People are always free to say what they will) Now. In addition to this, we cannot allow the government to begin making laws, no matter how good intentioned those laws might be, that run contrary to the constitution. When we (ALL AMERICANS) are trading our liberty for a temporary and mostly useless saftey measure. That is what I care about. MY LIBERTY, which will suffer because nearsighted idiots like you cannot see past your own anger long enough to realize what you are giving away. Quote I'm not having a tantrum...I'm not...I'm not...I'm not...I'm going to sue your ass...whawwwwwwww. Iran's useless government will disarm or be destroyed. As a matter of personal preference; I prefer the latter. FUCK IRAN, FUCK TERRORISTS, AND FUCK ALL THOSE WHO SUPPORT THEM!!!
TerroristHater Posted August 22, 2005 Posted August 22, 2005 So in order to protect my own rights, i should fight for the rights of those that show NO regard for our society or the laws that govern it? You are looking at anarchy there. There MUST be consequences for our actions. No, I am not. You CANNOT protect your rights and NOT protect the rights of others at the same time. It's ALL OF US or NONE OF US. That is the way our system of government works. I agree that there must be consequences, but I will not allow those consequences to involve the loss of liberty... for ANYBODY... even people who deserve to lose it. Doing so INVITES THE GOVERNMENT TO STEAL THE REST OF OUR LIBERTY. That is what you MUST STRIVE TO UNDERSTAND. Quote I'm not having a tantrum...I'm not...I'm not...I'm not...I'm going to sue your ass...whawwwwwwww. Iran's useless government will disarm or be destroyed. As a matter of personal preference; I prefer the latter. FUCK IRAN, FUCK TERRORISTS, AND FUCK ALL THOSE WHO SUPPORT THEM!!!
Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell Posted August 22, 2005 Author Posted August 22, 2005 AND I ANSWERED YOU AND YOU REPLIED TO ME. SO FUCK OFF. RIGHTS THAT ARE LOST The right to vote (in most states) The right to bear arms (in SOME states) There are more, but as stated above, it varies by the state (mostly the IQ of the people running the state) RIGHTS THAT ARE NOT LOST The right to freedom of religon (This includes access to or being in proximity of chruches, which is why Florida's law, much like a similar law in Iowa, WILL BE OVERTURNED. The right to freedom of speech (People are always free to say what they will) Now. In addition to this, we cannot allow the government to begin making laws, no matter how good intentioned those laws might be, that run contrary to the constitution. When we (ALL AMERICANS) are trading our liberty for a temporary and mostly useless saftey measure. That is what I care about. MY LIBERTY, which will suffer because nearsighted idiots like you cannot see past your own anger long enough to realize what you are giving away. You half answered (why am not surprised.. you're a half wit) What is this based on? (At first you said no rights are lost, then you jump-shifted to some rights are actually lost... but you don't explain what was going on in your tiny brain to come up with which rights are lost or not) So please... Answer the question....... PROOF? Quote The first amendment provides our constitution with its voice. The second amendment provides its teeth.
Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell Posted August 22, 2005 Author Posted August 22, 2005 No, I am not. Yes, you are! You CANNOT protect your rights and NOT protect the rights of others at the same time.So you CANNOT protect your rights and NOT protect the rights of PEDOPHILES at the same time. It's ALL OF US or NONE OF US. That is the way our system of government works.In our ever inclusive and diversified society we must include PEDOPHILES in our neigborhoods? Should we offer them free sex with our children too? I agree that there must be consequences, but I will not allow those consequences to involve the loss of liberty... for ANYBODY... even people who deserve to lose it.No you don't, you believe PEDOPHILES are equal and deserve the same constitutional rights as the rest of society. (well some anyway... you still haven't told us how you came up with which ones, exactly... I think it was because chapels are in prisons?????) Doing so INVITES THE GOVERNMENT TO STEAL THE REST OF OUR LIBERTY.perhaps we should just do away with government altogether... in that case I'd just shoot the PEDOPHILES and anyone who would offer them protection. That is what you MUST STRIVE TO UNDERSTAND.We understand... Your whore of a mother produced a pedophile and a moron who blames his ills on ADHD. 1 Quote The first amendment provides our constitution with its voice. The second amendment provides its teeth.
hugo Posted August 22, 2005 Posted August 22, 2005 What ADHD boy fails to understand is that a similar Arkansas law has already been upheld though a judge has prevented authorities from evicting individuals who were residents when the law was passed. Not even the laws opponents have brought up religious freedom as an issue. The law does not prevent individuals from going to church...just from living near one. The major issue judges are hesitating on is the ex post facto situation which prevents an additional punishment after the individual has been sentenced. The situation is quite similar to preventing felons from gun ownership. Let me give ADHD boy a couple facts from National Review Felon Voters A growing movement. By David Lampo Should murderers, rapists, and thieves regain the right to vote once they've served their time? As hard as it is to believe, in 32 states they already do. Only 13 states now forbid convicted felons from voting, with just nine of these imposing lifetime bans. Two states, Vermont and Maine, even allow felons currently doing time to vote like any other citizen. If you think there's something wrong with letting murderers, rapists, and thieves help determine public policy, listen up, because the movement to restore voting rights to felons is growing, led mostly by African-American politicians and liberal reform groups, and it's coming to a state legislature near you. ADHD Boy, take a pill and focus, read something for a change. A lot of people forget about the 10th Amendment The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
TerroristHater Posted August 22, 2005 Posted August 22, 2005 What ADHD boy fails to understand is that a similar Arkansas law has already been upheld though a judge has prevented authorities from evicting individuals who were residents when the law was passed. Not even the laws opponents have brought up religious freedom as an issue. The law does not prevent individuals from going to church...just from living near one. The major issue judges are hesitating on is the ex post facto situation which prevents an additional punishment after the individual has been sentenced. The situation is quite similar to preventing felons from gun ownership. Let me give ADHD boy a couple facts from National Review Felon Voters A growing movement. By David Lampo ADHD Boy, take a pill and focus, read something for a change. A lot of people forget about the 10th Amendment'; Hugo, I want you to pay CLOSE ATTENTION to what I am about to say. THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNTIED STATES OF AMERICA IS THE SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND. AS SUCH, IT TRUMPS ALL LOCAL LAWS THAT RUN IN OPPOSITION TO IT. AS SUCH, WHAT THAT JUDGE SAYS IS TOTALLY AND COMPLETELY MEANINGLESS. IT IS NOT ALLOWED UNDER THE CONSTITUTION SO THAT JUDGE CAN GO FUCK HIS MOMMY. GET IT... YOU DUMB FUCK? Arkansas, like so many other redneck states, fails to follow the Constitution and as such are subject to being ordered by the UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT to kill thier backwards, redneck-created laws. GET THAT THROUGH YOUR FUCKING HEAD. Quote I'm not having a tantrum...I'm not...I'm not...I'm not...I'm going to sue your ass...whawwwwwwww. Iran's useless government will disarm or be destroyed. As a matter of personal preference; I prefer the latter. FUCK IRAN, FUCK TERRORISTS, AND FUCK ALL THOSE WHO SUPPORT THEM!!!
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