Plan B: The morning after pill

[tizz]

Tizz my dear...I respect you BUT your unyielding ability to rationalize your rampant desires to trample other people's liberties and rights to medical care and privacy in this circumstance, is as common as a penny.

 

Even though the immoral majority may feel otherwise, it is still wrong and no amount of "this benefit and that benefit" will ever convince me that you or anyone else is justified in inflicting your personal beliefs upon the personhood of another; especially in matters which have absolutely no direct effect upon you whatsoever!

 

This is my major complaint with society as a whole. Nobody knows when to keep quiet because it's none of their business.

 

 

How can you say that it is invadion of privacy or anything else when you don't even have to give your name? It has an effect on ME because I am a mother f a little girl who may someday be faced with the desision to use this pill or not. I would rather she discuss that desision with an OBGYN even if she can't come to me! ANYTIME she is going to be messing with her hormones and reproductive abilities I want her to talk to a doctor not just for the safety there but to cover the risks of everything else that has to do with sex. This desision DOES have EVERYTHING to do with me. Hormones have NO place being sold over the counter. Hell how many people that can't even read the directions or risks will get hold of this and do themselves harm? Why not sell Viagra over the counter and let all these kids end up in the hospital with erections that won't go away? Same thing right?

[tizz]

BTW -ball, evey cell in your body is a living organizm. Do you consider the death of your sperm when you jack off as destruction of the possibility for life?

[DizzyME]

BTW -ball, evey cell in your body is a living organizm. Do you consider the death of your sperm when you jack off as destruction of the possibility for life?

 

LOL I was wondering if that was going to come up.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

How can you say that it is invadion of privacy or anything else when you don't even have to give your name? It has an effect on ME because I am a mother f a little girl who may someday be faced with the desision to use this pill or not. I would rather she discuss that desision with an OBGYN even if she can't come to me! ...Why not sell Viagra over the counter and let all these kids end up in the hospital with erections that won't go away? Same thing right?

 

You get a "A" for impassioned plea...

 

Being able, as an adult, to walk into a drug store and purchase an over the counter medicine without anything other than I hand over my money to the clerk, is the only form of not having an invasion of privacy.

 

How you choose to raise your children and what you ask them to do with you is YOUR BUSINESS, not mine, not the government's, and certainly not anybody elses!

 

Viagra should be over the counter. The incidence of medication induced priaprism is so extremely rare it's not even an issue. Minors are not supposed to be allowed to purchase medications from drugstores so your worry becomes rather moot.

 

Can't you see the infringement on other people's lives from your point of view or are we beating the dead horse right about now?

[SoNyaThEBiTcH]

Viagara over the counter, ahahahahaMY FUCKING ASS, first of all i work in a pharmacy and about 80% who get that shit are adult black males, medicaid will no longer pay for viagara because they cannot detect who the sex offenders are. If the fucking drug was over the counter,now running at myjob 74 bucksfor 6 pills,we would just be heping society becomemore fuckedup with young teenage boys experimenting with shit they donot need, and allthe viagara would be stolen becauseno one wouldpay for it. Over the counter, what are you nuts? Viagara shouldnot be used by peoplewho do not need it simplybecause its not goodin the long run for your body, or your health system, and in some cases hasproved to be addicting. Why so maleprostitutes can please there fucking cunt whores, no fuck that. I just think that itis a side activity that should nbe covered byNO INSURANCE, certainlyvNOT MEDICAID.

 

Just likeplan B,put it over the counnter and women start using it like birth control, be fuckin responsibleandtake a daily pill,PLAN B ISNOT BIRTH CONTROL,andwomen need touse itmore responsibly. Fuck allthese extra plans,if women were fuckin nasty ass sluts, they wouldnt need MULTIPLE PILLS, just like when a doctor puts refills on your plan B prescription, meaning they have no faith in you, they know your a slut and you'll doit again, try taking real birth control, instead of killing babies after there already there, fuck that...

 

plan b makes me fuckin sick

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

...Viagara shouldnot be used by peoplewho do not need it simplybecause its not goodin the long run for your body, or your health system, and in some cases hasproved to be addicting...

 

You are entitled to your opinion, but this quote of yours, tried to give the impression that you work in a pharmacy and know something other than how to operate a cash register and therefore should be listened to. You don't so please quit pretending.

 

At 17, I am quite positive that you are neither a physician nor a pharmacist and therefore, totally unqualified to render any medical views.

 

Viagra has proven addicting? Please. It's a vasodilator (I know, it's a big word; look it up.) which has no effect whatsoever on the CNS and it therefore incapable of generating an addiction.

 

Happiness from the ability to have sex again most likely would result in a desire to have more sex, but this is far from an addiction. This is normal.

[RegisteredAndEducated]

I wholeheartedly disagree with the morning after pill. I cannot vote in this poll, because I don't even think it should exist. There should be a 3rd option for that. I don't mind contraception, and I use condoms every time, even if she is "on the pill." I wouldn't allow anybody I know to get an abortion, I hate abortion, and I hate people that have abortions. I have a reason to base my opinion on, my mother. She had an abortion when she was about 16, cause she was too damn drugged up and dumb to protect herself. She I should have a brother or sister that is about 4 years older than myself, but her stupidity has prevented me from having an older sibling.

 

If it were up to me, I'd have all forms of abortion illegal and all people who commit this horrible crime, put to death.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

I wholeheartedly disagree with the morning after pill. I cannot vote in this poll, because I don't even think it should exist. There should be a 3rd option for that. I don't mind contraception, and I use condoms every time, even if she is "on the pill." I wouldn't allow anybody I know to get an abortion, I hate abortion, and I hate people that have abortions. I have a reason to base my opinion on, my mother. She had an abortion when she was about 16, cause she was too damn drugged up and dumb to protect herself. She I should have a brother or sister that is about 4 years older than myself, but her stupidity has prevented me from having an older sibling.

 

If it were up to me, I'd have loo forms of abortion illegal and all people who commit this horrible crime, should be put to death.

 

 

Hmm...

 

Let me see if I understand you.

 

You hate abortion because in your mind, it deprived you of a sibling. So you feel that you have been cheated somehow.

 

You obviously support contraception use as a valid method to attempt to prevent pregnancy. (Given the fact of course that no contraception is 100% effective) yet I am unclear as to how you would face the reality of a contraceptive failure resulting in an unwanted pregnancy.

 

You continue to this day, to harbor hatred and disdain towards your mother because she suffered through an unwanted pregnancy (at 16!) and found an abortion to be a valuable option. You give her no break whatsoever for having been a young, gullible, and ignorant youth especially since you were no doubt, the epitome of brilliance at 16, thanks in some part to her tutelage? Hmm....

 

Then in your truly stunning "coup de grace", you claim that those who participate in an abortion, (which I can only deduce that you feel is a murder), are guilty beyond a doubt in your eyes and should be murdered!

 

Fascinating. Did I get this right?

[tizz]

I wholeheartedly disagree with the morning after pill. I cannot vote in this poll, because I don't even think it should exist. There should be a 3rd option for that. I don't mind contraception, and I use condoms every time, even if she is "on the pill." I wouldn't allow anybody I know to get an abortion, I hate abortion, and I hate people that have abortions. I have a reason to base my opinion on, my mother. She had an abortion when she was about 16, cause she was too damn drugged up and dumb to protect herself. She I should have a brother or sister that is about 4 years older than myself, but her stupidity has prevented me from having an older sibling.

 

If it were up to me, I'd have loo forms of abortion illegal and all people who commit this horrible crime, should be put to death.

 

UUMM I gues you missed where it was explained that the MApill IS contreception? It is meant to PREVENT not end a pregnancy and works in the same way as the birth control pill! It is NOT an abortion, it does NOT cause miscarraige, it PREVENTS pregnancy from ever happening. It is the same as pulling out or using a condom in that it PREVENTS the possibility (to a degree) of pregnancy. YOU are arguing against RU486 which is admitedly a whole different thing. THAT terminates a pregnancy.

[RegisteredAndEducated]

Hmm...

 

Let me see if I understand you.

 

You hate abortion because in your mind, it deprived you of a sibling. So you feel that you have been cheated somehow.

 

You obviously support contraception use as a valid method to attempt to prevent pregnancy. (Given the fact of course that no contraception is 100% effective) yet I am unclear as to how you would face the reality of a contraceptive failure resulting in an unwanted pregnancy.

 

You continue to this day, to harbor hatred and disdain towards your mother because she suffered through an unwanted pregnancy (at 16!) and found an abortion to be a valuable option. You give her no break whatsoever for having been a young, gullible, and ignorant youth especially since you were no doubt, the epitome of brilliance at 16, thanks in some part to her tutelage? Hmm....

 

Then in your truly stunning "coup de grace", you claim that those who participate in an abortion, (which I can only deduce that you feel is a murder), are guilty beyond a doubt in your eyes and should be murdered!

 

Fascinating. Did I get this right?

 

 

 

I despise abortion for this reason and more. I don

[Vaness]

MA should be over the counter, that way you PREVENT abortions and unwanted pregnancies, children left in dumpsters, all theses kids in foster care, orphanages, kids born with chemical dependencies because they're crackhead mom didn't care she was prego and didn't have enough for an abortion because she smoked all the money she had. Im not saying all but I think we would have less of these cases.

I dont see everyone that is against abortion or MA pills taking care of these kids that can't find somebody to adopt them. Or helping whores raise their children with values. But of course a-lot of these are also the ones complaining about ******s and welfare.

[tizz]

And all these illiterate folk or folks that don't know better will screw it up when they take because they are no tunder the care of a physician

[Vaness]

Well then they should sell them with a warning label just like cigs. Leave it up to them to care about their health. At least they'll screw themselves up instead of having a new life on earth and screwing with their lifes. I really don't think that an adult woman that is sleeping around with no condoms or any type of birth control is really concerned about the side effects. If she doesn't care about her own body why should I? I prefer that woman not to have any kids that she knows she won't be able to raise or she doesn't want them...whatever the reason it is.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

...If you don

[tizz]

Well then they should sell them with a warning label just like cigs. Leave it up to them to care about their health. At least they'll screw themselves up instead of having a new life on earth and screwing with their lifes. I really don't think that an adult woman that is sleeping around with no condoms or any type of birth control is really concerned about the side effects. If she doesn't care about her own body why should I? I prefer that woman not to have any kids that she knows she won't be able to raise or she doesn't want them...whatever the reason it is.

 

 

And do we not know the meaning of ILLITERATE??? In case you didn't know (obviously you don't) it means UNABLE TO READ! What good are warning labels and instrustions if a person cannot read them?

[Vaness]

Oh Tizz please if they're too ficking stupid to learn how to read, they won't understand the hormonal change or whatever the Dr. wants to tell them. What are you trying to say? "There is no point in warning labels because the poor illiterates can't understand" Those illiterates are prob. children of those women who didn't want to have kids and didn't take the time to teach them how to read.

I feel retarded to answering your post on the excuse of them being illiterate.

[ToriAllen]

Alright, ignoring the abortion and teen sex issues right now let me say that the pill should be a prescription drug. If used improperly, the pill can be fatal. Women who plan to use this drug should have to speak with a doctor first. The possibility for improper use is at least as great if not greater with this pill than with the normal birth control pill and therefore should be treated the same or with more caution.

[tizz]

Oh Tizz please if they're too ficking stupid to learn how to read, they won't understand the hormonal change or whatever the Dr. wants to tell them. What are you trying to say? "There is no point in warning labels because the poor illiterates can't understand" Those illiterates are prob. children of those women who didn't want to have kids and didn't take the time to teach them how to read.

I feel retarded to answering your post on the excuse of them being illiterate.

 

So being illiterate must mean you are stupid right? I am still deciding if you get bad rep for being a complete dolt here.

 

slap Wake up kid before I smack you around.

[SoNyaThEBiTcH]

um run cash register, dickhead, my name tag says DRUG ASSOCIATE, i count the drugs, pull the drugs, scan the drugs, and do drug orders, how the fuck are you going to tell me, and um yes viagara can be addicting, as can every other drug in the whole world if not used properly, viagara is simply for males who want to get more sex then there getting, which is FINE, if they pay for it there fuckin selves my tax money does not need to pay for hard ons...it pays for enough bull shit

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

I'm Yellow because I'm full of Pee Pee? No, that's not it....

 

I'm Yellow because I toilet papered Phreakwars trailer and trailer park? No, that's not it...

 

I'm Yellow because R/O pissed on my parade? No, that's not it...

 

I'm Yellow because I groped Tizz in the Premium Members Forum? No, that's not it, but it should have been!

 

I'm Yellow because all of the negative Brownie Points I've earned finally caught up with me? No, that's not it...

 

I know...I VOLUNTEERED to be Yellow (i.e. In the Idiot Box) for 24 hours so that Phreak could prove a point to Chairman Mao the Bitch and the other lame asses over at Brawl Hall. Our Idiot Box is a great tool, but it hardly bans a person from participating. It just dewclaws them for a little bit!

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

um run cash register, dickhead, my name tag says DRUG ASSOCIATE, i count the drugs, pull the drugs, scan the drugs, and do drug orders, how the fuck are you going to tell me, and um yes viagara can be addicting, as can every other drug in the whole world if not used properly, viagara is simply for males who want to get more sex then there getting, which is FINE, if they pay for it there fuckin selves my tax money does not need to pay for hard ons...it pays for enough bull shit

 

Sorry to take so long to get back to you but this was at the bottom of the "need to reply" lists.

 

Sonya...Just who the hell are you trying to bullshit? Huh? Your nametag says DRUG ASSOCIATE? SO FUCKING WHAT? You are a sales clerk! You have NO formal training in either medicine or Pharmacology whatsoever so quit pretending.

 

Oh, you pull the filled prescriptions and run the cash register so the people can pay for them. You can even transmit the Telxon unit information to the drug supply house by pressing the SEND button...Whooptie Doo Darling! You cannot even legally go into the drug area or count out pills into a bottle and you know it. You wouldn't know a Beta Blocker from a Protease Inhibitor from a systemic vasodilator, let alone how they worked and what their properties were.

 

No, then you won't mind explaining the attached graphic. Good luck...You're going to need it!

 

Claiming that every drug in the world can be addicting only further proves your ignorance of the truth of medicines.

 

Grow up and quit trying to bullshit everybody!

 

Read the drug information sheet on Viagra and you will find no reference to "habit forming" or "addictive properties". It isn't addictive.

 

http://pfizer.com/pfizer/download/uspi_viagra.pdf

 

I can already hear you asking "How do I know this" right? Well Missy, I don't personally but I'm the youngest of 9 children, and one of my sisters is a Pharm.D licensed pharmacist, and one of my brothers is a Ph.D. biochemist. I asked them. My sister told me what you really were even though I already suspected it, and my brother, well he just said you were full of shit and sent me the graphic for you to explain!

 

Oh, one last thing...at 17, you haven't even begun to pay taxes yet compared to the amount of tax money you've sucked up...

[TheJenn88]

I think it's a great option. I don't necessarily support, or "unsupport" abortion - but opinion on that aside, think of the medical system. Would you rather be spending millions a year on the system for numerous appointments between doctor and women, and money spent on medical supplies. It leads to a whole bunch of things negative - having to go to the doctor all the time. The woman could be missing work, thus hurting her income! That, in turn, hurts the economy because the money won't be recycled back in. That's going a bit far, but you get my drift. An over-the-counter pill provides a great solution to backups in clinics and such, and it's much more cost & time effective.

 

If a female was raped, and wanted to just hide it from the world, from her parents, family, friends, and maybe partner, it's a lot easier to do so by just swallowing a pill instead of going through the trauma of going to a hospital for it. It's better for personal privacy. Also, what if someone who lives at home, say, at the age of 17 gets pregnant/unprotected sex..shouldn't she just have the choice to take a pill, versus all the drama, and THEN an abortion?

 

All in all, the pill is very effective for time, money, and privacy.

Would I use it? Absolutely.

 

Oh yeah, also, what about all those kids my age who get pregnant and don't want to keep the kid? Some kids my age are forced to carry the child because her, or her family & society deem it as a shame to have an abortion. But she may be very poor, or very stupid (not kidding, a lot of kids who get pregnant at my age are idiots, and some aren't). Someone who's a drug user, let's say, may not go to a clinic to have an abortion, but could much more easily pop a pill, and that would benefit her, and spares the baby from having a shitty life.

 

Of course, issues are raised. What if the birth rate drops heavily because of all the women popping a pill without a second thought. Would that hurt our economy? Would that lead to too many of one gender being born? Or would it benefit? To that no one really has the answers. I think people would seek the pill as an opportunity, without a second thought - I know I would. But if it wasn't an option, I may keep the child.

 

Anyways, I know that this was a bunch of thoughts piled in to one post. Good luck

[tizz]

TheJenn88: If a female was raped, and wanted to just hide it from the world, from her parents, family, friends, and maybe partner, it's a lot easier to do so by just swallowing a pill instead of going through the trauma of going to a hospital for it. It's better for personal privacy. Also, what if someone who lives at home, say, at the age of 17 gets pregnant/unprotected sex..shouldn't she just have the choice to take a pill, versus all the drama, and THEN an abortion?

 

 

 

If she is allready pregos this pill will do her NO good

[TheJenn88]

TheJenn88: If a female was raped, and wanted to just hide it from the world, from her parents, family, friends, and maybe partner, it's a lot easier to do so by just swallowing a pill instead of going through the trauma of going to a hospital for it. It's better for personal privacy. Also, what if someone who lives at home, say, at the age of 17 gets pregnant/unprotected sex..shouldn't she just have the choice to take a pill, versus all the drama, and THEN an abortion?

 

 

 

If she is allready pregos this pill will do her NO good

Um, yeah, I know that. I mis-said it, in fact, i said "/unproteced sex" afterwards - because you get PREGNANT from that. I didn't mean..guh. whatever. I can't believe I even care enough to reply to you. I'm not under the delusion that it's an abortion pill.

[tizz]

I have had this debate with ALOT of people who are under the misconception that the MApill is RU486.