snafu Posted September 15, 2005 Posted September 15, 2005 Tori... Were is he in We Were Soldiers? I love that movie. I'll watch it tonight and look for him. Quote "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws. That's just insane!" Penn & Teller NEVER FORGOTTEN
ToriAllen Posted September 15, 2005 Posted September 15, 2005 I think either way is pretty bad. One minute they are fine and the next they aren't. That's rough. Dad went through a lot of ups and downs, and at one point, for about a year after his first surgery, we thought that was it. They thought the cancer was confined to the right kidney, and when it was removed, we were so relieved. That is when he really started to get involved in acting. I think it woke him up to how short life is. I think it woke us all up to how short life is. That is when we really started talking again. I forgot this pic. He was such a goofball. He had fallen asleep on the beach. And incase anyone is wondering, yes, I Quote Smart men learn from their own mistakes; Wise men learn from others. I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.
tizz Posted September 15, 2005 Posted September 15, 2005 Right now my stepfather is in the hospital not expected to make it another week cry he has been in since July 7th. i am having a hard time explaining it to my four year old who loves him dearly Quote "An intelligence that is not humane is the most dangerous thing in the world" Ashley Montague "No one should have to walk alone" Phuong Du "An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind" Ghandi "If I were asked to define an American in a single phrase, I would say 'An American is a person who has the right to be different' and I think that right is growing" William Manchester
skategreen Posted September 16, 2005 Author Posted September 16, 2005 I think either way is pretty bad. One minute they are fine and the next they aren't. That's rough. Dad went through a lot of ups and downs, and at one point, for about a year after his first surgery, we thought that was it. They thought the cancer was confined to the right kidney, and when it was removed, we were so relieved. That is when he really started to get involved in acting. I think it woke him up to how short life is. I think it woke us all up to how short life is. That is when we really started talking again. I forgot this pic. He was such a goofball. He had fallen asleep on the beach. And incase anyone is wondering, yes, I Quote The thought manifests as the word. The word manifests as the deed. The deed develops into habit. And the habit hardens into character. So watch the thought and its ways with care. And let it spring from love, born out of concern for all beings. - Buddha
skategreen Posted September 16, 2005 Author Posted September 16, 2005 Right now my stepfather is in the hospital not expected to make it another week cry he has been in since July 7th. i am having a hard time explaining it to my four year old who loves him dearly Sorry Tizzy. These are the times we must hold hands. Quote The thought manifests as the word. The word manifests as the deed. The deed develops into habit. And the habit hardens into character. So watch the thought and its ways with care. And let it spring from love, born out of concern for all beings. - Buddha
skategreen Posted September 16, 2005 Author Posted September 16, 2005 I'm Speechless and my eyes are leaking... You really are quite the dear one, aren't you? >CES gives good acknowledgments.< Quote The thought manifests as the word. The word manifests as the deed. The deed develops into habit. And the habit hardens into character. So watch the thought and its ways with care. And let it spring from love, born out of concern for all beings. - Buddha
ToriAllen Posted September 16, 2005 Posted September 16, 2005 Right now my stepfather is in the hospital not expected to make it another week cry he has been in since July 7th. i am having a hard time explaining it to my four year old who loves him dearly I'm sorry. The worst part is trying to explain to the kids. It took mine a while to stop asking when we could go see Umpa again. My son even asked me when he could go to heaven and visit Umpa. I tried to explain to him that things don't quite work that way, but it is so hard for children to understand. Quote Smart men learn from their own mistakes; Wise men learn from others. I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.
tizz Posted September 16, 2005 Posted September 16, 2005 I have ben using the movies "Brother Bear" and "Lion King" so I think she has resigned herself to thinking he will become one of the "Big Differs" (big dippers) and she will be able to talk to him every night. I think I like that best. SHe has been having a couple of really really SAD meltdowns over not being able to find her toys lately and I think it might have something to do with it because that is not like her. She alomost panniocked after agreeing to trade toys with a neighbor for the afternoon. She was fine until we had to leave and then she just got so sad. Quote "An intelligence that is not humane is the most dangerous thing in the world" Ashley Montague "No one should have to walk alone" Phuong Du "An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind" Ghandi "If I were asked to define an American in a single phrase, I would say 'An American is a person who has the right to be different' and I think that right is growing" William Manchester
Lethalfind Posted September 17, 2005 Posted September 17, 2005 I have to say that its hard to read this thread but its also comforting to have some place to go and speak about something that I ALWAYS keep to myself. My Dad had a heart attack on July 7, 1999. That was only 3 days after he and my Mom were the martials of the town parade for July 4. They took my daugther with them as they rode through town in the convertible. I remember being affraid that the police would stop them from holding her on their lap because they were sitting on the back of the convertible. I look back at those pictures and its strange to understand that only days later he had his heart attack. He had bypass surgery and we thought he was recovering when he had another attack was dead by the end of August. I hated seeing him dependent and he hated it as well. He hated not feeling well, that was SO not him. He went through so much pain. I can't say which is harder seeing someone suffer and then pass away or not knowing anything and them dying suddenly. Maybe it depends on the person. I know my Father would have prefered to die suddenly rather then go through 2 months of torture the way he did. I think its cool putting your Dads picture on here, I don't remember who did it but those were cool. I will have to figure out how to use my scanner and post some of my Dad with my Daughter. Quote I am a pathetic piece of shit leeching single mom.
ToriAllen Posted September 17, 2005 Posted September 17, 2005 I have to say that its hard to read this thread but its also comforting to have some place to go and speak about something that I ALWAYS keep to myself. My Dad had a heart attack on July 7, 1999. That was only 3 days after he and my Mom were the martials of the town parade for July 4. They took my daugther with them as they rode through town in the convertible. I remember being affraid that the police would stop them from holding her on their lap because they were sitting on the back of the convertible. I look back at those pictures and its strange to understand that only days later he had his heart attack. He had bypass surgery and we thought he was recovering when he had another attack was dead by the end of August. I hated seeing him dependent and he hated it as well. He hated not feeling well, that was SO not him. He went through so much pain. I can't say which is harder seeing someone suffer and then pass away or not knowing anything and them dying suddenly. Maybe it depends on the person. I know my Father would have prefered to die suddenly rather then go through 2 months of torture the way he did. I think its cool putting your Dads picture on here, I don't remember who did it but those were cool. I will have to figure out how to use my scanner and post some of my Dad with my Daughter. I would love to see those... Quote Smart men learn from their own mistakes; Wise men learn from others. I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.
wolvesslasher Posted September 17, 2005 Posted September 17, 2005 I am an ass. I have no respect for anything in life because I don't even respect myself. The only reason I am a jerk like this is for attention and because I know that I am so anti-social that should I die tomorrow, nobody would ever write beautiful things like this about me, and I hate that. I wonder why I am such a jerk... Quote
ToriAllen Posted September 17, 2005 Posted September 17, 2005 LIVE AND LET DIE!! Does insensitive asshole warrant the box? Quote Smart men learn from their own mistakes; Wise men learn from others. I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.
Lethalfind Posted September 17, 2005 Posted September 17, 2005 what a prick, he does deserve the box and a good slap across the face Quote I am a pathetic piece of shit leeching single mom.
wolvesslasher Posted September 17, 2005 Posted September 17, 2005 Yes, I love the Idiot Box. It suits me. Thank you! Quote
ToriAllen Posted September 17, 2005 Posted September 17, 2005 Try it and you'll be visiting your father in Hell!! That sounds like a dare. See, now that's the kind of shit-talk that makes the temptation unbearable. I can't wait to see what you think you can do... Quote Smart men learn from their own mistakes; Wise men learn from others. I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.
wolvesslasher Posted September 17, 2005 Posted September 17, 2005 I know that I'm whacko. Please put me in the Box for my own safety. Thank you. Quote
phreakwars Posted September 17, 2005 Posted September 17, 2005 I forgot this pic. He was such a goofball. He had fallen asleep on the beach. And incase anyone is wondering, yes, I Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars
angie Posted September 17, 2005 Posted September 17, 2005 Sounds like permanent idiot box to me. Or until he can prove he deserves otherwise. Made some stupid ass nasty comment in the "Remember" thread too. Quote http://www.darwinawards.com/ http://www.snopes.com http://www.breakthechain.org STOP THE SPAM!! Click Me You Know You Want To
Cogito Ergo Sum Posted September 17, 2005 Posted September 17, 2005 I think either way is pretty bad. One minute they are fine and the next they aren't. That's rough. Dad went through a lot of ups and downs, and at one point, for about a year after his first surgery, we thought that was it. They thought the cancer was confined to the right kidney, and when it was removed, we were so relieved. That is when he really started to get involved in acting. I think it woke him up to how short life is. I think it woke us all up to how short life is. That is when we really started talking again. I forgot this pic. He was such a goofball. He had fallen asleep on the beach. And incase anyone is wondering, yes, I Quote . I put no stock in religion. By the word "religion" I have seen the lunacy of fanatics of every denomination be called the will of god. I have seen too much "religion" in the eyes of too many murderers. Holiness is in right action, and courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves, and goodness. WE'VE SPENT HOW MUCH IN IRAQ? www.costofwar.com - http://icasualties.org/oif/ - http://iraqbodycount.net/
skategreen Posted September 18, 2005 Author Posted September 18, 2005 I have to say that its hard to read this thread but its also comforting to have some place to go and speak about something that I ALWAYS keep to myself. My Dad had a heart attack on July 7, 1999. That was only 3 days after he and my Mom were the martials of the town parade for July 4. They took my daugther with them as they rode through town in the convertible. I remember being affraid that the police would stop them from holding her on their lap because they were sitting on the back of the convertible. I look back at those pictures and its strange to understand that only days later he had his heart attack. He had bypass surgery and we thought he was recovering when he had another attack was dead by the end of August. I hated seeing him dependent and he hated it as well. He hated not feeling well, that was SO not him. He went through so much pain. I can't say which is harder seeing someone suffer and then pass away or not knowing anything and them dying suddenly. Maybe it depends on the person. I know my Father would have prefered to die suddenly rather then go through 2 months of torture the way he did. I think its cool putting your Dads picture on here, I don't remember who did it but those were cool. I will have to figure out how to use my scanner and post some of my Dad with my Daughter. I am so glad you have this place to go to. I know exactly what you mean, about the photos, and about ..the unreality of it all. And I can't say which would be harder either - your stories are no more easier to hear...but they are important to know. Quote The thought manifests as the word. The word manifests as the deed. The deed develops into habit. And the habit hardens into character. So watch the thought and its ways with care. And let it spring from love, born out of concern for all beings. - Buddha
skategreen Posted September 18, 2005 Author Posted September 18, 2005 The last time I saw my father, I held one of his white hankies clutched tightly, waving it high above my head, as he stood upon the deck of an old fishing boat, going out to sea. I had taken my two Goddaughters down to the dock with me to say goodbye. Just before we'd all left home, I'd sneaked into his room and hauled out a bunch of hankies so that I could show my little ones how to "properly" send a fisherman out to sea. Dad retired early and had returned to an old love, going out on a commercial fishing boat with "the guys" for 3 day stints, this one...turned out to be the last. We crawled all over the boat and explored, and in the wheelhouse I jotted a quick love note to Dad and posted it above the wheel. Just ten days later at the "roast" and wake, one of those fishin buddy guys levelled me as he told me of how Dad had found that note and carried it in his pocket for the whole trip, and how he'd pull it out, smile, and chuckle. ... I'd forgotten all about posting it... I'll never forget this one moment...just as the boat was pulling away...Dad was standing there on the deck..and suddenly, I noticed a slight stoop I'd never took note of before, a bend, and ...his bit of grey...he looked..just a bit ashen. A clutch gripped me, and I was suddenly a bit worried. I called out, "Dad! be careful! Take Care!!"...as I realized...he was getting older...maybe..this fishing stuff was a bit much... Dad laughed, called back, "I'll be fine!"..."don't worry about ME!" As the boat was setting off, we raised our hankies and hollered our goodbyes. As the boat rounded the end of the dock, we raced out to the the other side of the huge dock area, to get closer, madly waving our hankies, jumping up and down, joyfully shouting our love. He made it back from that trip...but a few days later, on his wedding anniversary, just as Mum was getting ready for their dinner out...he just passed, and it was all over. Several months later...I wrote about that day..the day it all changed. The names below have been changed..just for today. As I crawled into my little car and headed off home, I only had two things on my mind...a hot bath, lobster dip style, and a soothing cuppa tea in Granny Quote The thought manifests as the word. The word manifests as the deed. The deed develops into habit. And the habit hardens into character. So watch the thought and its ways with care. And let it spring from love, born out of concern for all beings. - Buddha
ToriAllen Posted September 19, 2005 Posted September 19, 2005 Tori... Were is he in We Were Soldiers? I love that movie. I'll watch it tonight and look for him. He was one of the Generals in the massive crowd of soldiers. He had a close up in the theater version but it got cut out of the video version. You can't really see him in the video/DVD version. He pointed out the back of his head from about 200meters, but I forget where he is... He said Mel was really short. Maybe 5 Quote Smart men learn from their own mistakes; Wise men learn from others. I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.
Cogito Ergo Sum Posted September 20, 2005 Posted September 20, 2005 ...He said Mel was really short. Maybe 5 Quote . I put no stock in religion. By the word "religion" I have seen the lunacy of fanatics of every denomination be called the will of god. I have seen too much "religion" in the eyes of too many murderers. Holiness is in right action, and courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves, and goodness. WE'VE SPENT HOW MUCH IN IRAQ? www.costofwar.com - http://icasualties.org/oif/ - http://iraqbodycount.net/
ToriAllen Posted September 20, 2005 Posted September 20, 2005 Hey! 5'9" is NOT short. It's AVERAGE. For a pigmy? Quote Smart men learn from their own mistakes; Wise men learn from others. I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.
Lethalfind Posted September 20, 2005 Posted September 20, 2005 Oh my god Skate, you can write so well. I'm at school about to edit a paper and had to check in, I'm sitting here fighting back the tears. That must have been like stabbing yourself repeatedly to write that but it was wonderful. I am learning that when people write what they know best, they write about their own life experience and it comes out like what you wrote, incredibly evocative. I remember some of the same things about my Dad, like days before his heart attack, we went to Lowes, I noticed how easily tired he was, how his colour was not right. He was unusually quiet. Those moments when you got those messages and couldn't get anyone on the phone, I can't imagine how bad that must have been !!! I too remember the last time I saw my Father, we thought he was out of the woods, on the way to recovery. I took that for granted. I stopped by on the way back from Wal-mart. I wish I had spent more time with him that day. I wish I had made sure my daugther had played more with him that day. Quote I am a pathetic piece of shit leeching single mom.
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