How should LOTTERY WINNINGS be divided?

[MissL]

I have 4 children. 2 from first marriage. 2 from 2nd marriage. I divorced the abusive childrens father when they were very small and had to raise them myself for 10 years before i got remarried. During this entire time i got NO child support. When my ex-husband left he cleaned out the bank accounts and left us with $20K in debts. I worked 2 and 3 jobs trying to raise the sons on my own. My ex-husband told me that i should raise them...and then one day he would steal the boys from me when they were all grown-up.

 

When the boys were teenagers, i remarried another man and have another 2 children (1 bio son and 1 step-son who lives with us every other weekend). My first 2 kids did not get along well with their new step dad. They was constant arguing. The stepdad was not nice to me either. He hid all of his wages and money from me so i had to work on my own to pay for groceries, bills and expenses for our son. I was like a single mom all over again except we shared the same house. I left him several times and almost divorced him twice but every time i got close he would apologize and say we can work it out so i decided to stay for the sake of our sons (didn't want them to come from broken home like my other sons). The boys got along ok with their step-brothers.

 

Then my ex-husband won the lottery! My boys went with him to collect the winnings and did not tell me about it ahead of time. I had to find out about it on the news!

 

Then my ex-husband gave my sons $1 Million each! The second son came to my house a few days later to help me around the house. He asked if i called my ex to congratulate him. I said NO! What business is it to me? But out of all of the people to win, why did it have to be my ex-husband? My son said to me that it was better for my ex-husband to win than his step-father! How can he say that? He only talked about what he wanted to do with "his" money but neither son wrote me a cheque....and nothing to the step-brothers also!

 

THREE WEEKS later i went to the bank and found out they deposited $50K to my account ($25K each out of their $2M windfall to their OWN MOTHER!). I immediately asked the teller to withdraw the money and i returned it to them without a word. After everything i did for them...all of the jobs and sacrifices i made...this is how they repaid me... It was a complete SLAP IN THE FACE! I think they were only giving it to me to ease their conscience....

 

Then i met with them and told them how selfish they have been acting and how disappointed i am in them. They told me they had to pay their bills and decide what to do with the money. THey told me that they only gave me "some" of the money and were going to give me the rest as a surprise on my birthday ($100K each)...but i didn't show up and spoiled their plans! Ha! I don't believe them! I told them they are making it up. If they REALLY wanted to give me the money it would have been done on the FIRST DAY...not 3 wks later! We argued some more and one son even told me to shut up! I was so hurt i left.

 

A couple days later was my grandsons birthday but i did not go. I did not need to be reminded of my exhusband. He is there and now he is the big hero! My son sent me flowers and a letter to "apologize" but i returned it unopened. I told him if he wants to apologize to me he should do it in person to my face and not hide behind flowers!

 

Instead my son decided to pout and neither of them spoke to me for 6 months. Every so often they would call me just to invite me to some other party they are having (birthday etc). I told them I WILL NO LONGER ATTEND FAMILY FUNCTIONS b/c i cannot keep up with their daddy. He is bribing them for their love with the money so they can have his company instead. I will NOT be there!

 

Finally at christmas, one of my sons came to me and said he was very sorry and that he wants me back in his life. I told him i accept his apology but it won't be so easy to get me back. They completely REJECTED ME AND HIS STEP-BROTHERS, so they will have to EARN our love and TRUST back very little bits at a time! At least he finally realized he needs his mom! But he still doesn't understand how much he hurt me! He tries to bribe me with gifts but i always return them.

 

What should i do to get them to understand how selfish they are being and how much pain they have caused me to go through? Its not about the money...its about the lack of RESPECT shown to me . Not even the decency to call and let me know ahead of time. Not even asking me for my opinion of what they should do.

 

I made sacrifices for them...working 2 and 3 jobs. Their father forgot all about us. Now he shows up with his millions and my boys think he's the big hero!

 

They should not have accepted the money from their father. But they were so greedy for the money, they would take the money rather than remember what he did to us during the divorce! They chose HIM over ME who raised them

 

Now all my boys do is show off with their new cars, vacations etc. They only think of me when they have a party. I don't need to go there to have everything shoved in my face! Mr. High and Mighty (my ex) is always there even though he didn't give us a penny when they needed milk and clothes.

 

My sons do not care that i have to WORK to earn my own way. They have forgotten all about me now that they don't have to worry about any finances. They have abandoned their own mother for their selfish desires!

[phreakwars]

Abandoned you ? Big deal, now you don't have to worry about giving them a damn thing. What if your ex never won the lottery ?? You'd probably be bitching that you can't get them to leave. Let them enjoy themselves with the happiness that they think money can bring... Are you jealous ?

 

The topic is called : How should LOTTERY WINNINGS be divided?

 

And to that, my answer would be... however the fuck the winner feels like it.

 

I have always found that most people who divorce say the other one is a jerk, when usually, it ends up being that both are jerks.

 

I'm not saying this is the case here, but then, I don't know you or give a fuck about you, so it doesn't matter.

 

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[builder]

My sons do not care that i have to WORK to earn my own way. They have forgotten all about me now that they don't have to worry about any finances. They have abandoned their own mother for their selfish desires!

 

You raised them. You don't own them.

 

"Your children are not your children. They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself... You may house their bodies but not their souls, for their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow, which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams."

 

Kahlil Gibran

[Lethalfind]

What the fuck is wrong you bitch??

 

You should just be glad their good for nothing Father gave them a fuckin dime, you don't have a right to claim one thin dime of it.

 

With your behavior since then I'm surprised they would have ONE thing to do with you.

 

I take care of my daughter because I want to, not in the hopes that she will one day repay me. If she gets rich, either from the lottery or from working, I don't expect one thing from her. I love her and I would never have my hand open to her...

 

You made your bed, you can lie in it, you married how many misreable men??? Then to make matters worse you stayed with the last worthless peice of shit you married AND had a child with him?? Now your life is such shit you expect your own kids to hand over money to you??? AND they have their own children to think about??

 

Are you for real, you selfish bitch!!!???

[eddo]

I have... I divorced ... had to raise them myself ... i got remarried. i got NO child support. I worked 2 and 3 jobs ... on my own. My ex-husband ... i should ... steal the boys from me ...

 

i remarried .. My first 2 kids ...was not nice to me either...hid all of his money from me... i had to work on my own ... I was like a single mom ... I left him ... i got close... i decided ...

 

did not tell me... I had to find out...

 

came to my house... I said NO! What business is it to me? ... my ex-husband... My son ... my ex-husband... neither son wrote me a cheque....

 

i went to the bank... my account.. their OWN MOTHER!... I immediately asked... i returned it... After everything i did for them...all of the jobs and sacrifices i made...this is how they repaid me... I think they...

 

i met... disappointed i am... told me... gave me... give me... my birthday...but i didn't ...I don't... I told... give me... told me ...I was... i left...

 

my grandsons... i did not... I did not... my exhusband... sent me... i returned... I told... to me.. my face...

 

my son... spoke to me... call me.. invite me... I told...I WILL NO... i cannot... I will...

 

my sons... to me... wants me... I told him... i accept... get me back... REJECTED ME... his mom... he hurt me... bribe me... i always...

 

i do... pain they have caused me... lack of RESPECT shown to me... let me know... asking me... my opinion...

 

...I made sacrifices...my boys...

 

than remember what he did to us during the divorce did he divorce the kids too??? ... chose HIM over ME who raised them..

 

think of me... I don't need... my face...give us a penny...

 

My sons... i have to WORK... my own way... forgotten all about me... abandoned their own mother...

 

looks to me like you got the selfish part down pat. and judging by what you said, you are showing all your kids a wonderful example of how to be selfish.

Good Work!

[Phantom]

The only bright side I can offer to this is to try to be happy for your children. If they play their cards right, they could be set for life. What parent wouldn't want that for their children? You shouldn't have to worry about their future anymore and that is a parent's dream.

 

On a side note, if I was the child and this happened to me, this money would be split 50/50 with my Mom. End of story. She wouldn't want to take it but I would make her.

 

Money. Tears families apart like nothing else.

[Lethalfind]

If it was my daughter and she had her own children, I wouldn't take a dime from her...

 

I would insist she put it in savings...rather then sqaunder it.

 

This person sounds like she has alot of resentment towards her children for having to take care of them without their Father, who was it again who had children with a dead beat Dad???

 

Don't you find it odd that this bastion of Motherhood came back and edited her post and included a 4th child??

 

The first time around she mentioned only 2 children with her first husband and 1 with her second husband...

[MissL]

The first post only included my biological children, but i also have 1 step-son (teenager...)..only lives with us 1/2 time on weekends..i do not know if i should include him or not...

 

I am sorry some of you feel that I am not good mother! I have had a very hard life and worked many many long hours so my sons could have the best of everything! I put them FIRST and me LAST my whole life....finally when they were grown i decided it was time for me! I have gone on a weightloss program and lost 50 lbs this year. I do not put up with rude people anymore and that includes my children. I am sorry i wasted so much of my life trying to make peace between my sons and their step-father. They were the reason my 2nd marriage was so difficult!

 

I thought I would be rewarded when they grew up and would love and respect me. I just come from the OLD SCHOOL where children take care of the parents in their old age...not the selfish, me, me, ME brats of this generation. All of you posters must be under 45.

 

I still take care of my mother and she is turning 75. I fly out and spend 2 months with her every summer doing things for her, cooking, cleaning, taking her shopping, to the doctor - everything b/c she is my MOTHER. I honor her with my time. She gave birth to me and deserves my love and respect. I don't expect her to come to visit me - I go to HER. I don't expect her to call me - i call her. I don't expect her to bring the grandkids to me - i took them to her!

 

If i won the lotto i would give her all of it (she wouldn't take it of course) but it is the THOUGHT that counts!

 

She too is disgusted with how my sons are acting and can't believe they have turned on me like they did. She wants nothing to do with them either.

 

But, this is a selfish, me first generation. I thought i raised my kids better but i was wrong...very wrong!

[Lethalfind]

Do you even hear yourself???

 

They are the reason your second marriage didn't work out???

 

What a self centered bitch you are...

 

I don't take care of and give my all so my daughter can return it someday...I do it because she is my daughter and I love her. I don't take stock about what I will get back someday.

 

If your children are self absorbed now, then I can see where they got it.

[hugo]

You raised them. You don't own them.

 

"Your children are not your children. They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself... You may house their bodies but not their souls, for their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow, which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams."

 

Kahlil Gibran

 

Kahlil Gibrari was a dumbass.

[builder]

Kahlil Gibrari was a dumbass.

 

Never heard of him.

 

Kahlil Gibran is a genious.

[RoyalOrleans]

The first post only included my biological children, but i also have 1 step-son (teenager...)..only lives with us 1/2 time on weekends..i do not know if i should include him or not...

 

I am sorry some of you feel that I am not good mother! I have had a very hard life and worked many many long hours so my sons could have the best of everything! I put them FIRST and me LAST my whole life....finally when they were grown i decided it was time for me! I have gone on a weightloss program and lost 50 lbs this year. I do not put up with rude people anymore and that includes my children. I am sorry i wasted so much of my life trying to make peace between my sons and their step-father. They were the reason my 2nd marriage was so difficult!

 

I thought I would be rewarded when they grew up and would love and respect me. I just come from the OLD SCHOOL where children take care of the parents in their old age...not the selfish, me, me, ME brats of this generation. All of you posters must be under 45.

 

I still take care of my mother and she is turning 75. I fly out and spend 2 months with her every summer doing things for her, cooking, cleaning, taking her shopping, to the doctor - everything b/c she is my MOTHER. I honor her with my time. She gave birth to me and deserves my love and respect. I don't expect her to come to visit me - I go to HER. I don't expect her to call me - i call her. I don't expect her to bring the grandkids to me - i took them to her!

 

If i won the lotto i would give her all of it (she wouldn't take it of course) but it is the THOUGHT that counts!

 

She too is disgusted with how my sons are acting and can't believe they have turned on me like they did. She wants nothing to do with them either.

 

But, this is a selfish, me first generation. I thought i raised my kids better but i was wrong...very wrong!

 

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This is the world's smallest violin playing just for you.

[atlantic]

You're not going to like this, but personally I would be happy that my son's got the money they got. It is your job to raise them as you brought them into this world. You should not expect them to pay you back. Although I know it suck's their dad won the money and not you, you have to view it as at least your son's have an advantage. A mother should never turn her back on her children either. Stop being bitter and see it for the gift it is.

[hugo]

Someone gives you 25K and you bitch about it?

[MissL]

On a side note, if I was the child and this happened to me, this money would be split 50/50 with my Mom. End of story. She wouldn't want to take it but I would make her.

 

Money. Tears families apart like nothing else.

 

At least one person on this board was raised right. She must be very proud of you!

 

Its not about the money for ME! I don't care about the money which is why i returned the $50K. I cannot be bribed with my ex-husbands money.

 

But my sons do not care about their step-brothers. They didn't give them a dime! I had to watch both of them feel so rejected as they showed off with their new cars, clothes, etc. What kind of brothers do not share with their own siblings? If i raised my boys right, they would have split the money 4 ways with their step-brothers.

 

Instead, they let the bitterness over their step-father get in the way of doing the right thing! That's why they said they are so happy their dad won the money then their step-father (aka. me and my other sons!) Its not my other sons fault the father/(their step-dad) is a jerk. They are punishing their brothers and being greedy selfish snobs!

 

Now my 3rd son is so hurt, he wants nothing to do with them...he told me "don't worry mom. when i move out and get a job i won't abandon you".

 

My sons wanted everyone to go for some counselling but i don't need it. I told them to go. I personally think they are jealous of my 3rd son b/c i can stay home with him and raise him and spend time with him. My first two kids i had to work 2-3 jobs so they were home alone with keys. They resent all of the time and attention i gave my 3rd boy.

 

So they are punishing him and hurting me. I am doing my best to raise my 3rd son right.

[Lethalfind]

You are a manipulative person, your words reek of it...

 

Your sons are better of without you in their lives...

[phreakwars]

You are a manipulative person, your words reek of it...

 

Your sons are better of without you in their lives...

Pay no attention to Lethal, she is a straight up retard who has no real opinion, she types shit just to be seen, nobody likes her, she doesn't even like herself..., convinced she doesn't need a man, because she looks like a man... but anyways..

 

Will you please quit fucking editing your original post ?

 

Better yet, I'll make it so you CAN'T edit it. 3 days in the box.

 

You are telling different stories here.. well, not different, but conditions are changing with each edit you do..

 

Suggests to me that this is causing you distress. If anybody but Lethal has given you hell about it, then you have probably deserved it.

 

Let me ONCE AGAIN read this whole fucking thread from the beginning and see how my opinion changes... 'SCUSE ME !----->

 

Oh, and I have moved this to the Private debates forum, if letch starts her shit, I'll simply lock her out of the conversation.

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[MissL]

I'm not changing my 'story'...just add clarification on who's kids are whose b/c some people were confused how many kids i have.

 

I have 3 bio and 1 step son...now first i post ONLY about my bio kids, but later i added the step son too...he only lives with us on weekends every other week and not much longer b/c he goes to college in the fall...

 

Of course i be distressed over this...you would be also if your brother got $1 Million and gave you nothing!

 

Everyone says they wouldn't expect anything...but those are just lies lies lies. Maybe it is hard to imagine b/c it does not happen to be your situation...but money changes people...love of money and family is forgotten.

 

Very difficult to see people who screwed me over now living the hi life and rubbing it in my face...you would not like it either...where is justice?

[phreakwars]

Ahh, so then your distressed for your son that got nothing.. hmm.. lets examine that shall we ?

 

The kid was not conceived by the ex, was born many years after you had another worthless man, and obviously your ex had carried on with his life, the guy shares his wealth with the kids that mean something to him ( his own), and your whining that it's not fair that, since his 2 kids also happen to be 1/2 brothers to your other kid, didn't also get a share of the winnings.

 

Big fucking boo hoo. The other son doesn't deserve shit anyway.

 

If I were married to some bitch years ago and had a couple kids with her, and we divorced, and she remarries and has another kid with someone else, I wouldn't do a fucking thing for the other kid. And you shouldn't expect your oldest sons to do anything either.

 

Raise them right ? You wanna talk about raising them right ? Since when is sharing wealth the right thing to do ? To each his fucking own.

 

Yeah, it of course sucks that it couldn't be different, but then that's life.

 

You should feel happy that your oldest sons are the only ones with money.

 

True story. I grew up fucking poor, didn't have jack shit. As all 6 of us kids got older, my younger brother got a great paying job where the rest of us worked factory level jobs working our middle class asses off for everything we got. One thing that happened with my brother, is he started to alienate from the family, living the "GOOD" life. Of course this upset my mom, because when it came to things like family functions and what have you, it was like having a snob in the family who never tried to be a part of the family.

 

My feelings on it, were my brother forgot where he came from. Eventually, my brother faded away from almost any given family function.

 

But then, nobody cared. That is not how he was raised, not how any of us were raised, but it is what he chose.

 

Life goes on.

 

He stops over at my house every now and then, but he doesn't visit his other brothers and sisters.

 

Probably because I'm the only one besides him who works. But, I keep shit real and treat everyone equal. Even snobby brothers who think they are better then the rest of the clan.

 

What does my brother come to visit for ? Simple, he visits for the things in life money doesn't buy.

 

Reality

 

If your concerned that the oldest kids might hold a bit of a grudge about the younger half sibling getting more attention from you... don't.

 

Things will level off after a while.

 

If you want your sons to respect you more, or your other son more, then instead of letting them try and buy you things, instead, YOU should buy them things... little simple things.. like back yard BBQ's, fucking card games... and things that cost hardly nothing but encourage participation and good ole conversation.

 

Of course you will have to put up with the snobby "I BOUGHT THIS AND THAT" bullshit, but the ultimate reward you will reap, is an appreciation for life from your sons... which is what I suspect you actually want.

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[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Dear Madame,

 

You have a seriously screwed up sense of what is right and wrong.

 

First off, a gift given from somebody else to somebody other than you, is quite simply, none of your damn business - regardless of your relationship to either of the parties. You are a busybody.

 

Your ex husband owes you and your new family NOTHING. Nothing at all.

 

Your sons owe you nothing at all either and it is so wrong of you to assume otherwise. You have allowed this situation to bring out the very worst in yourself. Jealousy, greed, manipulation, envy, you have the whole collection and then some.

 

Not everybody in this world can be rich just as not everybody can be poor. We are dealt the cards we are dealt and life goes on. Your actions and bitterness towards everybody in this whole stinking affair, shows just how superficial you truly are. You need to look into the mirror. Instead of being happy that your sons gave you $50k you became bitter and developed your sense of self-righteousness by giving it back.

 

If it had really been important to you, you could have given the $50k to your other sons. That would have been selfless and noble.

 

No, not you, you want to pout, and complain, and roll like a pig in your mud puddle of bitterness and spew it out onto as many people who will take it from you.

 

Not me you whinny ass bitch. You should slap yourself twice for your stupidity and manipulative ways.

 

It is you who should apologize to your sons. You were an ass and continue to be one.

 

Lastly, get this concept through your fucking head.

 

When parents divorce, stop inflicting your stupid petty bullshit issues with your ex onto your mutual children. It's WRONG!

 

Just because they do something with their father or interact with him in any way that they choose, doesn't diminish you. You diminish yourself with your silly antics. In addition, your sons have NO responsibility or connection to your other son you choose to make. Quit acting like they do. I will never understand the obsession of dumb ass women who think it is acceptable to make children with more than one man and then just assume that everybody else should view these "new" children as somehow being connected to them by virtue of being squirted out of the same vagina! How sick and twisted on your part. Then you take it to new levels of stupidity by actually trying to include your 1/2 time step-son. HE IS NOTHING TO YOUR SONS. No different than any other swinging dick walking on the street.

 

Also, quit blaming your children for YOUR woes. Children are never part of the parents problems. They are merely a convenient excuse for two adults behaving like children.

 

Try being happy for others good fortune instead of bitter about your own perceived hard life.

 

At this moment, some poor person starved to death in the streets somewhere in the world, and it wasn't you.

 

You are an ungrateful Bitch!

[snafu]

Dear Madame,

 

You have a seriously screwed up sense of what is right and wrong.

 

First off, a gift given from somebody else to somebody other than you, is quite simply, none of your damn business - regardless of your relationship to either of the parties. You are a busybody.

 

Your ex husband owes you and your new family NOTHING. Nothing at all.

 

Your sons owe you nothing at all either and it is so wrong of you to assume otherwise. You have allowed this situation to bring out the very worst in yourself. Jealousy, greed, manipulation, envy, you have the whole collection and then some.

 

Not everybody in this world can be rich just as not everybody can be poor. We are dealt the cards we are dealt and life goes on. Your actions and bitterness towards everybody in this whole stinking affair, shows just how superficial you truly are. You need to look into the mirror. Instead of being happy that your sons gave you $50k you became bitter and developed your sense of self-righteousness by giving it back.

 

If it had really been important to you, you could have given the $50k to your other sons. That would have been selfless and noble.

 

No, not you, you want to pout, and complain, and roll like a pig in your mud puddle of bitterness and spew it out onto as many people who will take it from you.

 

Not me you whinny ass bitch. You should slap yourself twice for your stupidity and manipulative ways.

 

It is you who should apologize to your sons. You were an ass and continue to be one.

 

Lastly, get this concept through your fucking head.

 

When parents divorce, stop inflicting your stupid petty bullshit issues with your ex onto your mutual children. It's WRONG!

 

Just because they do something with their father or interact with him in any way that they choose, doesn't diminish you. You diminish yourself with your silly antics. In addition, your sons have NO responsibility or connection to your other son you choose to make. Quit acting like they do. I will never understand the obsession of dumb ass women who think it is acceptable to make children with more than one man and then just assume that everybody else should view these "new" children as somehow being connected to them by virtue of being squirted out of the same vagina! How sick and twisted on your part. Then you take it to new levels of stupidity by actually trying to include your 1/2 time step-son. HE IS NOTHING TO YOUR SONS. No different than any other swinging dick walking on the street.

 

Also, quit blaming your children for YOUR woes. Children are never part of the parents problems. They are merely a convenient excuse for two adults behaving like children.

 

Try being happy for others good fortune instead of bitter about your own perceived hard life.

 

At this moment, some poor person starved to death in the streets somewhere in the world, and it wasn't you.

 

You are an ungrateful Bitch!

 

 

I knew you would display some true wisdom sooner or later. Line for line true wisdom.

[Lethalfind]

This woman brought her problems on herself and admitted as much...assuming she didn't go back and change it, she married the second man and stayed with him even though he was a worthless peice of shit...

 

BUT of course, she not only stayed with him but had another child with him...but of course she later says the problems with this new husband were the fault of her children from the first marriage...wow what a self absorbed bitch...

 

I hope your two sons take the money and run far away from YOU.

 

YOU brought this on yourself...you are the one at fault, you deserve the years of hell you got. No one tied you up and forced you to stay with two men that treated you badly, not the man, not the children you stupidly had with them, you did it, so you could paint yourself as the martyr...

 

No one buys your bullshit...at least not here.

 

I bet your husband treats you the way he does because even he sees what a bitch you are.

[phreakwars]

Once again, I believe you are A: wrong, and B: a fucking nimrod.

 

I think in her mind, she sees the struggle she endured, and the effort she put into being a mother. The misery, that , at least SHE felt was caused by being abandoned and in debt from a relationship, that for whatever reason went sour.

 

She probably feels her life should have amounted more, and that, because of the actions of her ex husband, she was forced to struggle through life.

 

Now here is where she contradicts herself...

 

When she talks about how she raised her kids .vs how they are acting..

 

So exactly how did you raise them ??

 

To share wealth with the family that raised them ?

 

1 million dollars.. doesn't really seem like alot of money to me.

 

If I had 1 million dollars, and only 1 million dollars. I sure as hell wouldn't split it with ANYBODY 50/50.

 

Hell, that would only leave me $500,000, half of which would probably go on a home.

 

I doubt I would live TOOO extravagantly the rest of my life on the rest.

 

But I would.... of course... give some of it away to family.... but how much ?

 

Man, well let me think... I have 5 other brothers and sisters, and my mom and her husband, and then maybe my uncles and aunts on my moms side... and oh hell...

 

After all is said and done, if I gave most of the closest ones $50,000 out of a million, my ass would be broke.

 

Now tell me, oh woman in distress, exactly how DID you raise your sons ?

 

Seems to me, if you raised them to be greedy, they wouldn't have offered you a dime to begin with.

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[Lethalfind]

Did someone hold a gun to her head to marry a worthless ass hole AND have two, not one but two kids with him? Did she not figure out he was worthless until AFTER the second one was born??

 

Then of course someone must have also had a gun to her head when she married the second ass hold, AND she clearly didn't figure out he was an ass hold before she had yet another kid...

 

Her life is shit, her kids treat her like shit...she is responsible. Pure and simple.

 

Read her posts, she blames everyone else, including her own children for the problems in her life, she even says it was her first two kids fault that her second marriage wasn't good...self absorbed bitch should never have been allowed to have children.

[phreakwars]

Wow.. your like, off in your own fucking world aren't you ?

 

Wow, that commentary was so amazingly stupid, I'm not sure whether it is possible for me to even make it sound even remotely well written.

 

Man, listen to yourself... "SHE IS SHIT, SHE IS WORTHLESS... BLAH BLAH BLAH... HATRED HATRED HATRED" .

 

Nah, she ain't worthless, she is confused.

 

You still haven't realized that GF 2007 is now known as CARE-A-LOT land. I think I told you this once before.

 

Looks like THIS particular topic just went into PRIVATE mode by INVITE only, I will post a link for members to SIGN UP to participate.

 

Letch is out of this conversation.

 

Edit: http://Off Topic Forum.com/showthread.php?t=205411 to sign up.

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