ISLAM,ask your questions.

[Hamza123]

The thing is, In order to educate people on Islam AIG, you have to be kind and level headed with them, or you will go no where but down and there hate level just increases. You need to be understanding of them and when you do so Allah will grant you, and them if they are as you are, a great number of Hasanat. (Good Deeds)

[phreakwars]

The thing is, In order to educate people on Islam AIG, you have to be kind and level headed with them, or you will go no where but down and there hate level just increases. You need to be understanding of them and when you do so Allah will grant you, and them if they are as you are, a great number of Hasanat. (Good Deeds)

Boy we sure corrupted the shit out of her didn't we ??

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[Hamza123]

Well, AIG has the same goal as I do... To help clear the mis-conceptions about Islam... If there is any overall change in it, than it's for sure the interpretation. In order to interpret the Qu'ran right, you must go back in time in your head. By doing so you will see and think with an open mind. You can do this by reading a consice history about Islam. An english Nun in the UK wrote a book about Islam which is great, it's consice, a little bit short but descriptive and totally accurate. If you would like the title and author please do not hesitate to ask!

[snafu]

I really like the way you portray your religion.

I would hope that it

[ALLAH IS GREAT]

The thing is, In order to educate people on Islam AIG, you have to be kind and level headed with them, or you will go no where but down and there hate level just increases. You need to be understanding of them and when you do so Allah will grant you, and them if they are as you are, a great number of Hasanat. (Good Deeds)

 

I appreciate your concern,but I've tried the level headed AIG and it didn't work. I debate with them,I don't insult.

And you say you ''hear'',from who? There are no surahs(chapters) missing because,the last verse from the Quran was sent down when the prophet was about to die.

 

''....this day those who disbelieve have given up all hope of your religion;so fear them not,but fear Me.This day,I have perfected your religion for you,completed My Favour upon you,and have chosen for you Islam as your religion...'' 5:3

 

Perfected!

[ALLAH IS GREAT]

These nut cases are hijacking your religion. Doesn

[Hamza123]

SNAFU, I really appreciate the way you talk with me. Thanks friend.

 

There is absolutley NO justification for terrorist attacks. Nothing in the Qu'ran says so... The sharp silence of Muslims around the world against these terrorist attacks is defying to the Qu'ran. Sometimes I think to myself, why do these people do this? They are supposed to be my brothers and sisters. Then reality hits me. I consider everyone my brother and sister, we are all written down on the same list. SNAFU, forcing you to believe in Islam or any religion is against Islam. I do not do so, instead I try to clear any mis-conceptions you might have. Muhammed said so himself, you will tend to a woonded non-Islamic person as if you were to tend to a woonded Islamic person. The real innocent civilians live in the shadows of these terrorsts, they need to rule them out. Just, some of the stuff you see on TV like celebrating might not always be a fair judgement but ultimatley thats for you to decide, I have never said anything bad about Christianity or Judasim, I only judge the people by there character and the things they do.

 

For example, saying the American Army is (insent henious comment here), is wrong, the vast majority of the soldiers are there becuase they wan't to help, just the gouvernment has other plans... Instead of killing soldiers or civilians, work together to make a better Middle East and a better reputation for Islam.

[Hamza123]

AIG, people will insult you and ridicule you for what you try to do. Insulting them back or ridculing them (not that you have, not sure) is just as bad. You must try your best to get through to these people. Keep a cool head sister.

 

My friends, we will never ask you to convert to Islam. We just want you to understand what the mis-conceptions are and what the truth is.

[ALLAH IS GREAT]

:)For example, saying the American Army is (insent henious comment here), is wrong, the vast majority of the soldiers are there becuase they wan't to help, just the gouvernment has other plans... Instead of killing soldiers or civilians, work together to make a better Middle East and a better reputation for Islam.

 

Problem is,the media only shows us the horrible ones.It goes both ways really.

They never tell people the good things,only focuss on the bad.So you can't blame both sides for hating each other.

[Hamza123]

I understand, thats why you must read as many books as you can about this subject, thats why I watch CNN and Al-Jazeera and I usually visit the Middle East (Lebanon and Dubai) my self. I think with an open mind and I never come to a conclusion. This sometimes slips my mind and the worst gets over my but I try my best not to do so. I want the people of Islam to shine there light for the world to see, I want the people of Islam to be free from the shadows of these terrorists and from constant occupation.

[snafu]

Ok I was being facetious. I new I would get a rise out of AIG. She gets a lot of flack and so she tries to defend anything that has to do with Islam. I think that

[Hamza123]

I was using CNN and Al-Jazeera more metaphorically lol But funny w/ fox! But anyways, Islam isn't on trial, it's whether or not people are willing or not willing. No one deserves a terrorist attacks, and no one deserves to have 25,000 of your innocent people killed. I like to answer questions rather than argue or debate becuase it USUALLY leads to some nasty things. Although debating is fun and can be mostly civilized. Throw me some questions, and God willing, I will try my best to answer them.

[snafu]

I was using CNN and Al-Jazeera more metaphorically lol But funny w/ fox! But anyways, Islam isn't on trial, it's whether or not people are willing or not willing. No one deserves a terrorist attacks, and no one deserves to have 25,000 of your innocent people killed. I like to answer questions rather than argue or debate becuase it USUALLY leads to some nasty things. Although debating is fun and can be mostly civilized. Throw me some questions, and God willing, I will try my best to answer them.

 

Thank you very much for your apathy.

One of my questions was about Shari Law. I find it very barbaric. If most Muslims would have their way this would be common law.

 

If Islam is to be the worlds religion how can such laws exsist in a civilized world?

[Hamza123]

SNAFU, I have no problem with keeping this kind of great talk going! See, you disagree with my relgion, thats perfectly fine, but you seem honest, you said so yourself the root of your hate was the terrorism. I respect you a lot for saying that because most people who disagree with the religion wouldn't. I appreciate that.

 

Sharia covers not only religious rituals, but many aspects of day-to-day life, politics, economics, banking, business or contract law, and social issues. However, this orthodox view of Islamic law is opposed by a minority of modern secular liberal movements within Islam. The term Sharia itself derives from the verb shara'a, which according to 'Omar's Dictionary of the Holy Qur'an connects to the idea of "spiritual law" (5:48) and "system of divine law; way of belief and practice" (45:18) in the Qur'an.

 

Such laws include no pork, no alcohal, no drugs etc. Since this is for MUSLIMS, than it should not have affect on the rest of the world. Since Islam can be practiced freely in the western worlds, you can take these laws such as not eating pork or alcohal and be able to express them. For Sunni Muslims, the primary sources of Islamic law are the Qur'an, the Hadith or directions of the Islamic prophet Muhammad, the unanimity of Muhammad's disciples on a certain issue (ijma), and Qiyas (drawing analogy from the essence of divine principles). Qiyas

[Hamza123]

Dear Friends,

 

Some Americans associate Islam with dictatorship, since so many Muslims live in countries that presently lack a real democratic process. Yet Muslims in the United States participate freely in a democracy without religious contradictions. Historically, the real obstacle to democracy in the traditional Muslim world has not been 'Islam.' It is poverty, lack of education, and corrupt and repressive regimes. Muslims living under oppressive regimes don't appear any happier with the arrangement than Americans would be; indeed, many Muslims have come here to escape them.

 

Also.

 

"They will question you concerning the holy month, and fighting in it. Say: 'Fighting in it is a heinous thing, but to bar people from God's way, to disbelieve in Him and the Holy Mosque and to expel its people from it - that is more heinous in God's sight; and persecution is more heinous than fighting." (Qur'an 2:217)

 

Islam by Karen Armstrong is probobly the best one out there for your history on it. Rated by the NY Times and Washington Post even.

[Hamza123]

One more thing, Islam, continuously says, "Honor the people of the book". "the book" Is not capitalized because people of "the book" include Christians, Judiasts and Muslims.

 

TO HELP UNDERSTAND ISLAM VIDEOS - Please View!

http://www.pbs.org/muhammad/video/ma_america220.html

http://www.pbs.org/muhammad/video/ma_violence_jihad220.html

http://www.pbs.org/muhammad/video/ma_jews220.html

http://www.pbs.org/muhammad/video/ma_otherrel220.html

http://www.pbs.org/muhammad/video/ma_quran220.html

[Anna Perenna]

I'm not gonna deny the fact that some women are oppressed,cos they are.But I don't get why people would blame a religion cos of the actions of misguided men who only want to dominate.

 

Since this thread is about Islam,do you believe it's Islam doing the oppressing or men who misinterprete everything to suit their desires,anna?

 

I don't know what to say about Ayan Hirsi.Partly because I haven't read everything she's said.

 

Ok, relax. I wasn't attacking you.

 

I agree that it isn't religion itself causing problems - it's MEN.

 

I was simply asking about Ayaan Hirsi because she's an ex Somali Muslim now living and working in Holland, as a politician, no less.

 

I thought perhaps you might identify with her, and I was wondering what you thought of her statements, that's all.

[snafu]

I like your interpretation on your religion adding others as brother and sister believers.

This is the kind of peace that Americans and I embrace.

I would stand beside you if I thought you would be persecuted for your religion.

But I don

[EnterNetProphet]

Throw me some questions, and God willing, I will try my best to answer them.

 

 

Greetings Hamza123 :-) I like to commend you on your replies.

 

But I have a question regarding sharia law....who is fit to judge?

[Hamza123]

Greetings Hamza123 :-) I like to commend you on your replies.

 

But I have a question regarding sharia law....who is fit to judge?

 

Salam friend! And Thanks! I appreciate your understand fellow.

 

Usually, Imams are the judges or anyone who is a certified judge of today's modern law. It says in the Qu'ran that times will change and there will be new obstacles so this will be a test and not only must we find a solution but we must learn to live with it. Although since Allah (God) sees all, he knows all and if anyone were to be judge wrongly, Allah will know. The only real judge Allah (God). Absolutely NO one can judge anything or anyone, unless this person has brought great scrunity to Muslims and Non-Muslims. The Qu'ran won't change, it's the minority of people that must. At the rate that is going right now, by the midst of the 21st century, Islamic people will have to come to terms with the rest of the world, as it is growing faster and faster everyday. Allah said you must accept the laws made by the nation, just so long the 5 Zakats of Islam are allowed and the Injil (Gospel) is also aloud. People would rather rant about Islam not known even what the world itself means, rather than trying to learn about it, from it's utter most source, the Qu'ran, and then of course some Islamic history books would help A LOT, and I mean, A GREAT DEAL, with any mis-conceptions you may have. Also please continue with the questions!

 

In the Qu'ran, it states that, surley those good people in the world, yes even those who are not Islamic, will recieve there reward on the day of judgement... Judiasm, Islam, and of course, Christianity, all believe in one God, and one God only. They all believe in the day of judgement so there for I have complied some Surah's from the Qu'ran that are manditory to read if you want to really understand what Islam is. I usually visit Atlanta and boy, Americans or some of the friendliest people in the world. Just, a group of people judge Islam by totally what they see on T.V. and not on any real findings. For example, IF some of you trust what the Congress has put out, well, I believe that they were tested during Hurricane Katrina, such a terrible Hurricane that killed thousands of innocent people.

 

[2:62]

Surely, those who believe, those who are Jewish, the

Christians, and the converts; anyone who (1) believes in

GOD, and (2) believes in the Last Day, and (3) leads a

righteous life, will receive their recompense from their

Lord. They have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve.

 

[3:64]

Say, "O followers of the scripture, let us come to a

logical agreement between us and you: that we shall not

worship except GOD; that we never set up any idols

besides Him, nor set up any human beings as lords beside

GOD." If they turn away, say, "Bear witness that we are

submitters."

 

[2:40]

O Children of Israel, remember My favor, which I bestowed

upon you, and fulfill your part of the covenant, that I

fulfill My part of the covenant, and reverence Me.

 

[2:47]

O Children of Israel, remember My favor which I bestowed

upon you, and that I blessed you more than any other

people.

 

[2:42]

Do not confound the truth with falsehood, nor shall you

conceal the truth, knowingly.

[Hamza123]

Also the rule in the Qu'ran is not to force people into Islam because if they wish they can become Muslims. But they have to embrace it themselves and help is always there! Just no force is allowed.

[Hamza123]

People ridicule, our religion so much. Instead of taking it out on the people, they could get out there and get educated on it as much as possible from the least possible biased sources. We all breathe the same air, we all have a heart. But we follow different beliefs and the same beliefs. Now that the threat of Saddam is gone... The armies stayed... Because of insurgents? Well, it's beggining to unfold. It's not the US Army's fault. The troops are there to try and do there job. They were told that they are trying to liberate the Iraqi people, and they try there best to do so... There are the few nutcases like the ones at the Abu Graib prison, but in general, they are doing what they believe they are doing, which is what is right. Now generally, you would think the Iraqi people would understand this... Most of them do. The minority doesn't, because they see their oil being taken for cheap, and their people being killed. They must understand that they have to stop this. They must not head in the route of the terrorists who mis-interpret the Qu'ran, but they must use the Qu'ran's great rulings to do good and spread love and wealth. They must all help each other in the soldiers. Saudi Arabia, well, I love the place, but the gouvernment is somewhat corrupt. They should help there brothers and sisters around the world which includes the US. They are the leading power in the Middle East, so they should be doing a better job than America of an effort to re-build the Middle East, especially Iraq. I can, yes I really can Imagine the west and east working together greatly. US needs oil, Middle East needs peace... America has peace, Middle East has oil. If they could work together, condemn terrorism, rule it out, route it out, and destroy the terrorists. We would be fine! And of course, if the world would be in agreement, lower oil prices and consumption considerably would be nice. Now some of you might be thinking that, "THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE YOU IDIOT!". Infact it's not, if you dig deep, you can see that it was just this that established the world today. A messed up world? No! Having this electricity that you people use to power your computer is an utter most luxury in a lot of places.

[EnterNetProphet]

Salam friend! And Thanks! I appreciate your understand fellow.

 

Usually, Imams are the judges or anyone who is a certified judge of today's modern law. .

 

hmmm I did'nt expect such long answer(hahaha)

 

Imams?

 

What if an innocent person is mistakenly judged to be a thief(upon false testimony given i.e baring false witness)..and has his/her hand cut off...what then?

 

And how does one police the Imams so there is no conflict of interest(i.e corruption) that will impair their judgement?.

 

Sharia law could be perverted and used for political/financial gain..how does one get redress in a situation like this?.( In this case an innocent person being beheaded)

 

If a panel of sunni Imams were to judge a shiah "accused" of murder...what do you think the judgement would be if the evidence was questionable?

 

You mentioned in your post that Hamzah123= "The Qu'ran won't change, it's the minority of people that must." <---- What did you mean by this?...and who are you referring to?

 

 

..Well I'm curious as to your thoughts...

[Hamza123]

hmmm I did'nt expect such long answer(hahaha)

 

Imams?

 

What if an innocent person is mistakenly judged to be a thief(upon false testimony given i.e baring false witness)..and has his/her hand cut off...what then?

 

And how does one police the Imams so there is no conflict of interest(i.e corruption) that will impair their judgement?.

 

Sharia law could be perverted and used for political/financial gain..how does one get redress in a situation like this?.( In this case an innocent person being beheaded)

 

If a panel of sunni Imams were to judge a shiah "accused" of murder...what do you think the judgement would be if the evidence was questionable?

 

You mentioned in your post that Hamzah123= "The Qu'ran won't change, it's the minority of people that must." <---- What did you mean by this?...and who are you referring to?

 

 

..Well I'm curious as to your thoughts...

Thanks for asking brudda.

 

It is rare to have a false charge in these circumstances seeing as how it is taken seriously when you lie. When one is beheaded or has his hand cutoff, the trial must last ages and ages. IF he is wrongly accused and prosecuted he will have an eternity in heaven since he could have improoved. I would rather live 70 years of hell in this life and live an eternity of heaven in the next... Of course if you see it that way.

 

Modern law like from western contries is influenced greatly on these laws also. Sharia Law is not ALWAYS necessary in some cases. Because, it states to give as much merci as possible and Allah will grant you the merci in return. Ali, who was Muhammed's son-in-law, was Shiite, he is still a holy figure to Al Sunna. In most cases they will be taken under Shiite laws, but there aren't many Shiites out there. If the evidence was "questionable" for this person, than they would take it to the supreme court composed of mostly Sunna and Some Shia which they have been known to be totally un-biased... Shiite would be judged also through Qu'ran the way a Sunna would be. They both believe in the same laws.

 

If you look at the crime rates and corruption and compare them to other western countries you would see what I mean from above. Like you said it could be perverted, but it isn't these days. When Saddam was around it usually was to some extent but not anymore.

 

When I said...

"The Qu'ran won't change, it's the minority of people that must."

I mean't that the Qu'ran will not change, it's the extremists who interpret the Qu'ran in a violent way that must change. Just as I could Interpret the Bible in sexual ways. Of course they are mean't spirtually. When someone critisizes the Qu'ran they are partially doing so to the Bible since the root of the Qu'ran is from the Bible/Gospel and the Torah.

[EnterNetProphet]

Thanks for asking brudda.

 

It is rare to have a false charge in these circumstances seeing as how it is taken seriously when you lie. When one is beheaded or has his hand cutoff, the trial must last ages and ages. IF he is wrongly accused and prosecuted he will have an eternity in heaven since he could have improoved. I would rather live 70 years of hell in this life and live an eternity of heaven in the next... Of course if you see it that way.

 

Modern law like from western contries is influenced greatly on these laws also. Sharia Law is not ALWAYS necessary in some cases. Because, it states to give as much merci as possible and Allah will grant you the merci in return. Ali, who was Muhammed's son-in-law, was Shiite, he is still a holy figure to Al Sunna. In most cases they will be taken under Shiite laws, but there aren't many Shiites out there. If the evidence was "questionable" for this person, than they would take it to the supreme court composed of mostly Sunna and Some Shia which they have been known to be totally un-biased... Shiite would be judged also through Qu'ran the way a Sunna would be. They both believe in the same laws.

 

If you look at the crime rates and corruption and compare them to other western countries you would see what I mean from above. Like you said it could be perverted, but it isn't these days. When Saddam was around it usually was to some extent but not anymore.

 

When I said...

 

I mean't that the Qu'ran will not change, it's the extremists who interpret the Qu'ran in a violent way that must change. Just as I could Interpret the Bible in sexual ways. Of course they are mean't spirtually. When someone critisizes the Qu'ran they are partially doing so to the Bible since the root of the Qu'ran is from the Bible/Gospel and the Torah.

 

Well Hamzah...I would not rather live in a "islamic country" having that philosophy of..."well allah knows I'm innocent...so chop away at least I will make it in paradise enshallah"...It does not address the issue of corrupt ulema or Imams..I would pretty much want justice in the physical realm...or better yet..these folk ahem "removed permanently".

 

If the"extremist" interpret the Qur'an based upon their own understanding....are they still muslims?....and what reason would they take up arms?......They must feel justified in doing so...heres an example of what I'm talking about.

 

Some reasons off the top of my head

 

Israel reconquers the holy lands---->who owns the land, the Israeli's or the palestinians?

 

America usually stations troops in saudi arabia from time to time..to sort out problems in the region..America being the infidels on saudi soil.

 

the west supports moderate govts in the arab world(by various means)----->The arabs in general actually prefer a watered down interpretation of the qur'an in general..so one could argue they are not muslims and are not following the hadith of mohammed or implementing shariah..seems to be a valid argument of muslim fundermentalists.

 

In your own eyes Hamzah...who is actually an Islamic country today?