Hamza123 Posted October 22, 2005 Posted October 22, 2005 Well Hamzah...I would not rather live in a "islamic country" having that philosophy of..."well allah knows I'm innocent...so chop away at least I will make it in paradise enshallah"...It does not address the issue of corrupt ulema or Imams..I would pretty much want justice in the physical realm...or better yet..these folk ahem "removed permanently". If the"extremist" interpret the Qur'an based upon their own understanding....are they still muslims?....and what reason would they take up arms?......They must feel justified in doing so...heres an example of what I'm talking about. Some reasons off the top of my head Israel reconquers the holy lands---->who owns the land, the Israeli's or the palestinians? America usually stations troops in saudi arabia from time to time..to sort out problems in the region..America being the infidels on saudi soil. the west supports moderate govts in the arab world(by various means)----->The arabs in general actually prefer a watered down interpretation of the qur'an in general..so one could argue they are not muslims and are not following the hadith of mohammed or implementing shariah..seems to be a valid argument of muslim fundermentalists. In your own eyes Hamzah...who is actually an Islamic country today? Hiya! Thanks for the questions again. Well, there is hardly much petty crime or murder, umm, and they will find out who is innocent and who isn't. And they only inflict these punishments on extreme charges. They interpret it in the extreme and violent way incase you missed that. For instace there are Sexual refferals in the Bible that talk about "Breasts". You can interpret this as a heart of a women or her pecks. If American troops were "infidels and hated" well, the minorty does but if the majority did, they would be attacked a lot... And not allowed on Saudi Soil to put there carriers etc... The thing is, the Arabs (I am one), don't take the Qur'an violently as the other Arabs do. There principles and implementation are not violent. Me and my family, we pray 5 times a day and regularaly attend Mosques. On the other hand, we always have family meetings and we always talk about how we can fit in more with the west and still keep our Islam. We go to theme parks, restaurants, the works! There is no perfect Islamic country, but there is the perfect kind of Islam. It's faith through faith. I take the Qu'ran, (which is meant for good) and do as much good as possible, and I try to avoid bad as much as possible. Arabs do not make up the majority of Muslims. Indonesians do! They are so peaceful and follow Islam the way it is supposed to. Also Dubai is a great example! Saudi Arabia's people may seem extreme to your western eyes, I hate to say that but it's true... Why? Because think of this. Islam is being ridiculed, therefore you hit the roots of it... Which is Saudi, and do bad things to too. Muslims, should never question the Bible/Gospel, although now Muslims expect many questionings from others about the Qu'ran, but it's aaalll good! We love the questions as they help you understand for your better interpretation. As long as it's un biased and true. If I lied to you about this kind of thing, than I would be going now here but the big man in the red suit! And no, not Santa! Hehe. As long as Islam can be practised freely, we don't care if it's Arab, Israeli or American. Thats the way I see it. 1 Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
EnterNetProphet Posted October 22, 2005 Posted October 22, 2005 Hiya! Thanks for the questions again. Well, there is hardly much petty crime or murder, umm, and they will find out who is innocent and who isn't. And they only inflict these punishments on extreme charges. They interpret it in the extreme and violent way incase you missed that. For instace there are Sexual refferals in the Bible that talk about "Breasts". You can interpret this as a heart of a women or her pecks. If American troops were "infidels and hated" well, the minorty does but if the majority did, they would be attacked a lot... And not allowed on Saudi Soil to put there carriers etc... The thing is, the Arabs (I am one), don't take the Qur'an violently as the other Arabs do. There principles and implementation are not violent. Me and my family, we pray 5 times a day and regularaly attend Mosques. On the other hand, we always have family meetings and we always talk about how we can fit in more with the west and still keep our Islam. We go to theme parks, restaurants, the works! There is no perfect Islamic country, but there is the perfect kind of Islam. It's faith through faith. I take the Qu'ran, (which is meant for good) and do as much good as possible, and I try to avoid bad as much as possible. Arabs do not make up the majority of Muslims. Indonesians do! They are so peaceful and follow Islam the way it is supposed to. Also Dubai is a great example! Saudi Arabia's people may seem extreme to your western eyes, I hate to say that but it's true... Why? Because think of this. Islam is being ridiculed, therefore you hit the roots of it... Which is Saudi, and do bad things to too. Muslims, should never question the Bible/Gospel, although now Muslims expect many questionings from others about the Qu'ran, but it's aaalll good! We love the questions as they help you understand for your better interpretation. As long as it's un biased and true. If I lied to you about this kind of thing, than I would be going now here but the big man in the red suit! And no, not Santa! Hehe. As long as Islam can be practised freely, we don't care if it's Arab, Israeli or American. Thats the way I see it. If only the Islamic world were like you Hamzah!!! scratches head Well Hamzah, you believe in your book and I will believe in mine..I will leave it at that. Quote
Hamza123 Posted October 22, 2005 Posted October 22, 2005 If only the Islamic world were like you Hamzah!!! scratches head Well Hamzah, you believe in your book and I will believe in mine..I will leave it at that. Thanks ENP! I only wish . When I believe in Islam, I believe in the reminders of Jesus, Abraham, Moses, David, and Muhammed. We surley have similarities . Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
ALLAH IS GREAT Posted October 22, 2005 Author Posted October 22, 2005 Ok I was being facetious. I new I would get a rise out of AIG. She gets a lot of flack and so she tries to defend anything that has to do with Islam. I think that Quote 'They intend to put out the Light of Allah with their mouths.But Allah will bring His Light to perfection even though the disbelievers hate it' ''Oh Allah!Make the best of my deeds my last deeds, and make the best of my life my last moments, and make the best day of my life the Day I meet You!''
Hamza123 Posted October 22, 2005 Posted October 22, 2005 I understand where you are comming from AIG. You get a lot of credit from me. Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
Lethalfind Posted October 24, 2005 Posted October 24, 2005 Are all people of your faith melodramatic, attention whores or is this a special attribute of your own...? Quote I am a pathetic piece of shit leeching single mom.
ALLAH IS GREAT Posted October 24, 2005 Author Posted October 24, 2005 Are all people of your faith melodramatic, attention whores or is this a special attribute of your own...? yawn your amazingly hurtful insults are wonderful. Quote 'They intend to put out the Light of Allah with their mouths.But Allah will bring His Light to perfection even though the disbelievers hate it' ''Oh Allah!Make the best of my deeds my last deeds, and make the best of my life my last moments, and make the best day of my life the Day I meet You!''
Hamza123 Posted October 24, 2005 Posted October 24, 2005 Are all people of your faith melodramatic, attention whores or is this a special attribute of your own...? Do you speak of me or AIG? I assure you our women are not whores nor do they prostitute themselves after getting hammered at the local pub. Incase some of you were wondering, Muhammeds wife Khadesha, talked back to him at times and he would listen. He took his wifes advise literaly even during battle times. The reason why it is now is because of the Roman Catholic influence on Islam. The Roman Catholic wives were as they are now with Islam. I am taking these words right out of a Christian Nun's book in the UK. I suggest if you want to know Islam, Read Islam - A Short History By, Karen Armstrong. No religion in the modern world is as feared and misunderstood as Islam. It haunts the popular Western imagination as an extreme faith that promotes authoritarian government, female oppression, civil war, and terrorism. Karen Armstrong's short history offers a vital corrective to this narrow view. The distillation of years of thinking and writing about Islam, it demonstrates that the world's fastest-growing faith is a much richer and more complex phenomenon than its modern fundamentalist strain might suggest. Islam: A Short History begins with the flight of Muhammad and his family from Medina in the seventh century and the subsequent founding of the first mosques. It recounts the origins of the split between Shii and Sunni Muslims, and the emergence of Sufi mysticism; the spread of Islam throughout North Africa, the Levant, and Asia; the shattering effect on the Muslim world of the Crusades; the flowering of imperial Islam in the fourteenth and fifteenth centuries into the world's greatest and most sophisticated power; and the origins and impact of revolutionary Islam. It concludes with an assessment of Islam today and its challenges. Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell Posted October 25, 2005 Posted October 25, 2005 I understand where you are comming from AIG. You get a lot of credit from me. Two fucking islamic jihadist peas in a pig-shit pod! Quote The first amendment provides our constitution with its voice. The second amendment provides its teeth.
Lethalfind Posted October 25, 2005 Posted October 25, 2005 Do you speak of me or AIG?. Sorry Hamza, I was not speaking of you, nor was I speaking of a whore in the traditional sense of the word. I did not mean to insinuate that AIG or other Muslim woman are of loose morals sexually. Quote I am a pathetic piece of shit leeching single mom.
Hamza123 Posted October 26, 2005 Posted October 26, 2005 Lol NP Leathal... MRIH I am not in an inner struggle so there for I am not practising Jihad... and Jihad is not holy war, I expected to debate with someone who knew this stuff already? Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell Posted October 26, 2005 Posted October 26, 2005 Lol NP Leathal... MRIH I am not in an inner struggle so there for I am not practising Jihad... and Jihad is not holy war, I expected to debate with someone who knew this stuff already? Damn, Hamza... you can spin and lie faster than AIG ever could! Are you saying there is no jihad (holy war) for a muslim, only some inner struggle? crosses fingers, closes eyes, and chants ... oh, please say "yes"... oh, please say "yes"... Quote The first amendment provides our constitution with its voice. The second amendment provides its teeth.
Hamza123 Posted October 26, 2005 Posted October 26, 2005 Damn, Hamza... you can spin and lie faster than AIG ever could! Are you saying there is no jihad (holy war) for a muslim, only some inner struggle? crosses fingers, closes eyes, and chants ... oh, please say "yes"... oh, please say "yes"... Heh, funny how you barley know me and you're making assumptions already. Now that AIG has left, you can start slinging shit at me. Maybe if you read my post... There is Jihad for Muslims, there inner struggle. Kital is Holy War or to kill. Not Jihad. The essential meaning of jihad is the spiritual, psychological and physical effort exerted by Muslims to be closer to God and thus achieve a just and harmonious society. Jihad literally means "striving" or "struggle" and is shorthand for Jihad fi Sabeel Allah (struggle for God's cause). Quit provoking me to arugue... I am close to breaking my spiritual fast. Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell Posted October 26, 2005 Posted October 26, 2005 Damn, where's all the C-4 when you need it , huh Kamza? Quote The first amendment provides our constitution with its voice. The second amendment provides its teeth.
Hamza123 Posted October 26, 2005 Posted October 26, 2005 Usually on the corner of China Town and Little Italy where all the real dealers are. Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell Posted October 26, 2005 Posted October 26, 2005 Usually on the corner of China Town and Little Italy where all the real dealers are. Did they teach you that in mujahadeen school? Quote The first amendment provides our constitution with its voice. The second amendment provides its teeth.
Hamza123 Posted October 26, 2005 Posted October 26, 2005 Ok WTF, I am not a murderer. Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell Posted October 26, 2005 Posted October 26, 2005 Ok WTF, I am not a murderer. Oh yeah. wink, wink Quote The first amendment provides our constitution with its voice. The second amendment provides its teeth.
Hamza123 Posted October 26, 2005 Posted October 26, 2005 I have nothing against you? Why do you choose to ridicule me? I have no intention of bringing harm to you or others? Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell Posted October 26, 2005 Posted October 26, 2005 I have nothing against you? Why do you choose to ridicule me? I have no intention of bringing harm to you or others? Boo fucking hoo! I ridicule you for the following reasons. 1) First and foremost you are an islamic appologist. 2) You are a liar. 3) You are quite naive 4) You act intelligent, but you are really stupid 5) You should be so embarassed at your own posts, but you are too stupid to see how embarassingily assinine they are 6) You follow the teachings of a pedophile and call him "prophet" (may piss and excrement be upon him for ever ~saalom) 7) The sick and twisted moderators are frothing at the mouth in anticipation of making you the next moderator! ... I don't care! 8) It get's to you and you cry, which brightens my day. 9) I am really ridiculing your stupidity, but you are taking it personally. 10) I ridicule, therefore I am. Quote The first amendment provides our constitution with its voice. The second amendment provides its teeth.
Hamza123 Posted October 26, 2005 Posted October 26, 2005 1) First and foremost you are an islamic appologist. Ah ok? 2) You are a liar. In your eyes ... Maybe becuase you hide from the truth? 3) You are quite naive You barley know me, or who I am. Thank Allah. 4) You act intelligent, but you are really stupid Once again thank Allah, you barley know me... Although you contradict yourself by arguing with me and then calling me stupid. 5) You should be so embarassed at your own posts, but you are too stupid to see how embarassingily assinine they are Embarrased from the truth that may seem ugly to you? 6) You follow the teachings of a pedophile and call him "prophet" (may piss and excrement be upon him for ever ~saalom) You know shit all about Muhammed let alone how to spell his name. 7) The sick and twisted moderators are frothing at the mouth in anticipation of making you the next moderator! ... I don't care! Perhaps the moderators are... sensible? Maybe thats why they are moderators. 8) It get's to you and you cry, which brightens my day. Boohoo. 9) I am really ridiculing your stupidity, but you are taking it personally. Why argue with me if I am so stupid... You are prolly like 20 years my senior... 10) I ridicule, therefore I am. Perhaps I should approach you differently... http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/4126/2784mp.gif Kafer Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
ALLAH IS GREAT Posted October 27, 2005 Author Posted October 27, 2005 1) First and foremost you are an islamic appologist. Um,he don't need to apologise for Islam.He's just trying to make you understand. 2) You are a liar. Don't worry Hamza.He says that about everyone he debates with.''You're a liar,cos you don't agree with me,whaaaaa'' 3) You are quite naive Anyone would rather be naive than bitter and hateful. 4) You act intelligent, but you are really stupid Stop speaking to yourself!!! 5) You should be so embarassed at your own posts, but you are too stupid to see how embarassingily assinine they are We'll wait while you check yourself out in the mirror. whisles 6) You follow the teachings of a pedophile and call him "prophet" (may piss and excrement be upon him for ever ~saalom) And you mistake a prophet for God(may peace and blessings be upon him). 7) The sick and twisted moderators are frothing at the mouth in anticipation of making you the next moderator! ... I don't care! Hee hee,I don't care! HA HA HA HA HA.Your face is becoming a rather dark shade of green MRIH. 8) It get's to you and you cry, which brightens my day. Course,you can see his face as clear as the sky. 9) I am really ridiculing your stupidity, but you are taking it personally. Sheesh,this bloke loves speaking to himself.You done yet loony? 10) I ridicule, therefore I am. ''IAM''? Apparently this means God,hamza. Quote 'They intend to put out the Light of Allah with their mouths.But Allah will bring His Light to perfection even though the disbelievers hate it' ''Oh Allah!Make the best of my deeds my last deeds, and make the best of my life my last moments, and make the best day of my life the Day I meet You!''
Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell Posted October 27, 2005 Posted October 27, 2005 1) First and foremost you are an islamic appologist. Ah ok? check 2) You are a liar. In your eyes ... Maybe becuase you hide from the truth? OK, you fucking retard... How dense are you? this is the third time. 1) You said Mohammed(may piss be upon him) only married old widowed women. LIAR 2) You said that appostacy is not a capital offense in the pig-shit religion. LIAR You said others as well check 3) You are quite naive You barley know me, or who I am. Thank Allah.barley is an ingredient in beer. check 4) You act intelligent, but you are really stupid Once again thank Allah, you barley know me... Although you contradict yourself by arguing with me and then calling me stupid.I contradict myself because you're stupid? No, it is you are stupid because of your religion. check 5) You should be so embarassed at your own posts, but you are too stupid to see how embarassingily assinine they are Embarrased from the truth that may seem ugly to you?whatever check 6) You follow the teachings of a pedophile and call him "prophet" (may piss and excrement be upon him for ever ~saalom) You know shit all about Muhammed let alone how to spell his name. OK, let me try it again ahem P E D O P H I L E P R O P H E T is that better? check 7) The sick and twisted moderators are frothing at the mouth in anticipation of making you the next moderator! ... I don't care! Perhaps the moderators are... sensible? Maybe thats why they are moderators.Got your hopes up? -Loser check 8) It get's to you and you cry, which brightens my day. Boohoo.check 9) I am really ridiculing your stupidity, but you are taking it personally. Why argue with me if I am so stupid... You are prolly like 20 years my senior... Because you are stupid. DUH! Why would I argue against intelligence? check 10) I ridicule, therefore I am. check Perhaps I should approach you differently... http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/4126/2784mp.gif Kafer check Quote The first amendment provides our constitution with its voice. The second amendment provides its teeth.
Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell Posted October 27, 2005 Posted October 27, 2005 Um,he don't need to apologise for Islam.He's just trying to make you understand.sure he does. just like you tried to do.... By the way, why are you still here... were'nt you leaving... or was that just more of your attention whoring? Don't worry Hamza.He says that about everyone he debates with.''You're a liar,cos you don't agree with me,whaaaaa''NO, AIG... I call liars liars, I call stupidity stupid, and I call islam pig shit. I thought you could read better than that! Anyone would rather be naive than bitter and hateful.I'm sure you would, because you are! Stop speaking to yourself!!! WTF? We'll wait while you check yourself out in the mirror. whisles Man I'm hot! And you mistake a prophet for God(may peace and blessings be upon him). So should strap on some C-4 and scream "ALLAH AKHBAR"??? Hee hee,I don't care! HA HA HA HA HA.Your face is becoming a rather dark shade of green MRIH. Now that is trully observant of you AIG, my oppinion of you just went from "dumb as a stump" to "dumb as an amoeba". Course,you can see his face as clear as the sky.Sure can. Sheesh,this bloke loves speaking to himself.You done yet loony?well, your listening... DUH... back to "dumb as a stump". ''IAM''? Apparently this means God,hamza. Your point is? Quote The first amendment provides our constitution with its voice. The second amendment provides its teeth.
Hamza123 Posted October 28, 2005 Posted October 28, 2005 check OK, you fucking retard... How dense are you? this is the third time. 1) You said Mohammed(may piss be upon him) only married old widowed women. LIAR 2) You said that appostacy is not a capital offense in the pig-shit religion. LIAR You said others as well check barley is an ingredient in beer. check I contradict myself because you're stupid? No, it is you are stupid because of your religion. check whatever check OK, let me try it again ahem P E D O P H I L E P R O P H E T is that better? check Got your hopes up? -Loser check check Because you are stupid. DUH! Why would I argue against intelligence? check check Calling me a Liar? Then stop stating that I am and proove me wrong... Calling me stupid? Yet you still don't know how to spell his name... Name calling? Were you abused or bullied in High School. From my socialogy class, it seems to me that you are letting out your years of abuse or some kind of neglect. Were you severely beat as a child? I am starting to feel sorry for you...mmm, Nah. Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
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