Guest sandman Posted April 4, 2007 Posted April 4, 2007 Air Force Fighter Pilot and Instructor Comes Out for 9/11 Truth http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2007/020407_b_Pilot.htm Monday April 2, 2007 Every day, additional military and government people come out for 9/11 truth. The latest is Col. Guy S. Razer. Col. Guy S. Razer, MS, U.S. Air Force (ret) - Retired U.S. Air Force fighter pilot (F-111, F-15E, F-16, B-1, F-18, Mig-29, and Suu-22). Flew combat missions over Iraq. Former instructor at the USAF Fighter Weapons School and NATO's Tactical Leadership Program. Col. Razer's statement: "After 4+ years of research since retirement in 2002, I am 100% convinced that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned, organized, and committed by treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest levels of our government. It is now time to take our country back. The "collapse" of WTC Building 7 [570 feet tall, 47 stories, and not hit by an airplane] shows beyond any doubt that the demolitions were pre-planned. There is simply no way to demolish a 47-story building (on fire) over a coffee break. It is also impossible to report the building's collapse before it happened, as BBC News did, unless it was pre-planned. Further damning evidence is Larry Silverstein's video taped confession in which he states "they made that decision to pull [WTC 7] and we watched the building collapse." We cannot let the pursuit of justice fail. Those of us in the military took an oath to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic". Just because we have retired does not make that oath invalid, so it is not just our responsibility, it is our duty to expose the real perpetrators of 9/11 and bring them to justice, no matter how hard it is, how long it takes, or how much we have to suffer to do it. We owe it to those who have gone before us who executed that same oath, and who are doing the same thing in Iraq and Afghanistan right now. Those of us who joined the military and faithfully executed orders that were given us had to trust our leaders. The violation and abuse of that trust is not only heinous, but ultimately the most accurate definition of treason!" Quote
Guest Al Dykes Posted April 4, 2007 Posted April 4, 2007 In article <qta62.ks0.19.1@news.alt.net>, sandman <sandman@hotmail.com> wrote: > >Air Force Fighter Pilot and Instructor Comes Out for 9/11 Truth > >http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2007/020407_b_Pilot.htm >Monday April 2, 2007 > >Every day, additional military and government people come out for 9/11 >truth. The latest is Col. Guy S. Razer. > > Col. Guy S. Razer, MS, U.S. Air Force (ret) - Retired U.S. Air Force >fighter pilot (F-111, F-15E, F-16, B-1, F-18, Mig-29, and Suu-22). Flew >combat missions over Iraq. Former instructor at the USAF Fighter Weapons >School and NATO's Tactical Leadership Program. > > Col. Razer's statement: > >"After 4+ years of research since retirement in 2002, I am 100% convinced >that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned, organized, and >committed by treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest >levels of our government. It is now time to take our country back. > >The "collapse" of WTC Building 7 [570 feet tall, 47 stories, and not hit by >an airplane] shows beyond any doubt that the demolitions were pre-planned. "not hit by an airplane" LMAO. What is this flyboy's expertise in the demolition of large buldings other than by bombing from xx thousands ft. -- a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001 Quote
Guest sandman Posted April 4, 2007 Posted April 4, 2007 The pilot says. "Treason." "sandman" <sandman@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:qta62.ks0.19.1@news.alt.net... > > Air Force Fighter Pilot and Instructor Comes Out for 9/11 Truth > > http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2007/020407_b_Pilot.htm > Monday April 2, 2007 > > Every day, additional military and government people come out for 9/11 > truth. The latest is Col. Guy S. Razer. > > Col. Guy S. Razer, MS, U.S. Air Force (ret) - Retired U.S. Air Force > fighter pilot (F-111, F-15E, F-16, B-1, F-18, Mig-29, and Suu-22). Flew > combat missions over Iraq. Former instructor at the USAF Fighter Weapons > School and NATO's Tactical Leadership Program. > > Col. Razer's statement: > > "After 4+ years of research since retirement in 2002, I am 100% convinced > that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned, organized, and > committed by treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest > levels of our government. It is now time to take our country back. > > The "collapse" of WTC Building 7 [570 feet tall, 47 stories, and not hit > by an airplane] shows beyond any doubt that the demolitions were > pre-planned. There is simply no way to demolish a 47-story building (on > fire) over a coffee break. It is also impossible to report the building's > collapse before it happened, as BBC News did, unless it was pre-planned. > Further damning evidence is Larry Silverstein's video taped confession in > which he states "they made that decision to pull [WTC 7] and we watched > the building collapse." > > We cannot let the pursuit of justice fail. Those of us in the military > took an oath to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States > against all enemies, foreign and domestic". Just because we have retired > does not make that oath invalid, so it is not just our responsibility, it > is our duty to expose the real perpetrators of 9/11 and bring them to > justice, no matter how hard it is, how long it takes, or how much we have > to suffer to do it. > > We owe it to those who have gone before us who executed that same oath, > and who are doing the same thing in Iraq and Afghanistan right now. Those > of us who joined the military and faithfully executed orders that were > given us had to trust our leaders. The violation and abuse of that trust > is not only heinous, but ultimately the most accurate definition of > treason!" > > > > > > > > > > Quote
Guest sandman Posted April 4, 2007 Posted April 4, 2007 "Al Dykes" <adykes@panix.com> wrote in message news:ev0ld1$n52$1@panix5.panix.com... > In article <qta62.ks0.19.1@news.alt.net>, sandman <sandman@hotmail.com> > wrote: >> >>Air Force Fighter Pilot and Instructor Comes Out for 9/11 Truth >> >>http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2007/020407_b_Pilot.htm >>Monday April 2, 2007 >> >>Every day, additional military and government people come out for 9/11 >>truth. The latest is Col. Guy S. Razer. >> >> Col. Guy S. Razer, MS, U.S. Air Force (ret) - Retired U.S. Air Force >>fighter pilot (F-111, F-15E, F-16, B-1, F-18, Mig-29, and Suu-22). Flew >>combat missions over Iraq. Former instructor at the USAF Fighter Weapons >>School and NATO's Tactical Leadership Program. >> >> Col. Razer's statement: >> >>"After 4+ years of research since retirement in 2002, I am 100% convinced >>that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned, organized, and >>committed by treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest >>levels of our government. It is now time to take our country back. >> >>The "collapse" of WTC Building 7 [570 feet tall, 47 stories, and not hit >>by >>an airplane] shows beyond any doubt that the demolitions were pre-planned. > > > "not hit by an airplane" LMAO. > > What is this flyboy's expertise in the demolition of large buldings > other than by bombing from xx thousands ft. > You're an Israeli. Quote
Guest Server 13 Posted April 4, 2007 Posted April 4, 2007 "sandman" <sandman@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:qtbee.73m.17.1@news.alt.net... > > "Al Dykes" <adykes@panix.com> wrote in message > news:ev0ld1$n52$1@panix5.panix.com... >> In article <qta62.ks0.19.1@news.alt.net>, sandman <sandman@hotmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>>Air Force Fighter Pilot and Instructor Comes Out for 9/11 Truth >>> >>>http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2007/020407_b_Pilot.htm >>>Monday April 2, 2007 >>> >>>Every day, additional military and government people come out for 9/11 >>>truth. The latest is Col. Guy S. Razer. >>> >>> Col. Guy S. Razer, MS, U.S. Air Force (ret) - Retired U.S. Air Force >>>fighter pilot (F-111, F-15E, F-16, B-1, F-18, Mig-29, and Suu-22). Flew >>>combat missions over Iraq. Former instructor at the USAF Fighter Weapons >>>School and NATO's Tactical Leadership Program. >>> >>> Col. Razer's statement: >>> >>>"After 4+ years of research since retirement in 2002, I am 100% convinced >>>that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned, organized, and >>>committed by treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest >>>levels of our government. It is now time to take our country back. >>> >>>The "collapse" of WTC Building 7 [570 feet tall, 47 stories, and not hit >>>by >>>an airplane] shows beyond any doubt that the demolitions were >>>pre-planned. >> >> >> "not hit by an airplane" LMAO. >> >> What is this flyboy's expertise in the demolition of large buldings >> other than by bombing from xx thousands ft. >> > > You're an Israeli. roflmao You'll need a lot more lipstick for this pig. Quote
Guest whofan Posted April 4, 2007 Posted April 4, 2007 On Apr 4, 12:44 pm, "sandman" <sand...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Air Force Fighter Pilot and Instructor Comes Out for 9/11 Truth > > http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2007/020407_b_Pilot.htm > Monday April 2, 2007 > > Every day, additional military and government people come out for 9/11 > truth. The latest is Col. Guy S. Razer. > > Col. Guy S. Razer, MS, U.S. Air Force (ret) - Retired U.S. Air Force > fighter pilot (F-111, F-15E, F-16, B-1, F-18, Mig-29, and Suu-22). Flew > combat missions over Iraq. Former instructor at the USAF Fighter Weapons > School and NATO's Tactical Leadership Program. > > Col. Razer's statement: > > "After 4+ years of research since retirement in 2002, I am 100% convinced > that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned, organized, and > committed by treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest > levels of our government. It is now time to take our country back. > > The "collapse" of WTC Building 7 [570 feet tall, 47 stories, and not hit by > an airplane] shows beyond any doubt that the demolitions were pre-planned. > There is simply no way to demolish a 47-story building (on fire) over a > coffee break. It is also impossible to report the building's collapse before > it happened, as BBC News did, unless it was pre-planned. Just shows that even AF pilots can be kooks too. At least some of the "pilots for truth" sound semi-credible......but this one, using the "proof" mentioned above sounds like just another Rosie Odonnell tinfoil hat wearing kook. On 911, reports that WTC7 appeared as though it could collapse at any moment started airing at around noon or 1pm. Reporters knew it would collapse just by the perilous appearance of the building....it wasn't a matter of if it would collapse, it was when. Yet this AF pilot kook uses the BBC thing as proof that the building was brought down by controlled demolition????? So that means that he believes that not only the US govt was involved in this "plot" but that the media....INCLUDING the BBC were in on it too??????????? Why in the world would any news organization require a script telling them to report that a 60 story building collapsed (or was about to collapse)??? Wouldn't they just naturally report this latest event in the catastrophe as it happened anyhow????? > Further damning > evidence is Larry Silverstein's video taped confession in which he states > "they made that decision to pull [WTC 7] and we watched the building > collapse." And this is where this Air Force pilot loses all of his credibility. He might as well be a pizza delivery man when refering to this "confession" as proof that the building was deliberately demolished. > > We cannot let the pursuit of justice fail. Those of us in the military took > an oath to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against > all enemies, foreign and domestic". Just because we have retired does not > make that oath invalid, so it is not just our responsibility, it is our duty > to expose the real perpetrators of 9/11 and bring them to justice, no matter > how hard it is, how long it takes, or how much we have to suffer to do it. He sounds like just another Bush administration hating moonbat. > > We owe it to those who have gone before us who executed that same oath, and > who are doing the same thing in Iraq and Afghanistan right now. Those of us > who joined the military and faithfully executed orders that were given us > had to trust our leaders. The violation and abuse of that trust is not only > heinous, but ultimately the most accurate definition of treason!" Watch the following. The guy that created this does a great job of debunking each of the theories that the Loose Change originally pointed out: http://www.lolloosechange.co.nr Quote
Guest Al Dykes Posted April 4, 2007 Posted April 4, 2007 In article <qtbee.73m.17.1@news.alt.net>, sandman <sandman@hotmail.com> wrote: > >"Al Dykes" <adykes@panix.com> wrote in message >news:ev0ld1$n52$1@panix5.panix.com... >> In article <qta62.ks0.19.1@news.alt.net>, sandman <sandman@hotmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>>Air Force Fighter Pilot and Instructor Comes Out for 9/11 Truth >>> >>>http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2007/020407_b_Pilot.htm >>>Monday April 2, 2007 >>> >>>Every day, additional military and government people come out for 9/11 >>>truth. The latest is Col. Guy S. Razer. >>> >>> Col. Guy S. Razer, MS, U.S. Air Force (ret) - Retired U.S. Air Force >>>fighter pilot (F-111, F-15E, F-16, B-1, F-18, Mig-29, and Suu-22). Flew >>>combat missions over Iraq. Former instructor at the USAF Fighter Weapons >>>School and NATO's Tactical Leadership Program. >>> >>> Col. Razer's statement: >>> >>>"After 4+ years of research since retirement in 2002, I am 100% convinced >>>that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned, organized, and >>>committed by treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest >>>levels of our government. It is now time to take our country back. >>> >>>The "collapse" of WTC Building 7 [570 feet tall, 47 stories, and not hit >>>by >>>an airplane] shows beyond any doubt that the demolitions were pre-planned. >> >> >> "not hit by an airplane" LMAO. >> >> What is this flyboy's expertise in the demolition of large buldings >> other than by bombing from xx thousands ft. >> > >You're an Israeli. > > Cite? :-) So what? -- a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001 Quote
Guest Al Dykes Posted April 4, 2007 Posted April 4, 2007 In article <1175707383.996207.168680@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, whofan <dgbrewer@gmail.com> wrote: >On Apr 4, 12:44 pm, "sandman" <sand...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> Air Force Fighter Pilot and Instructor Comes Out for 9/11 Truth >> >> http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2007/020407_b_Pilot.htm >> Monday April 2, 2007 >> >> Every day, additional military and government people come out for 9/11 >> truth. The latest is Col. Guy S. Razer. >> >> Col. Guy S. Razer, MS, U.S. Air Force (ret) - Retired U.S. Air Force >> fighter pilot (F-111, F-15E, F-16, B-1, F-18, Mig-29, and Suu-22). Flew >> combat missions over Iraq. Former instructor at the USAF Fighter Weapons >> School and NATO's Tactical Leadership Program. >> >> Col. Razer's statement: >> >> "After 4+ years of research since retirement in 2002, I am 100% convinced >> that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned, organized, and >> committed by treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest >> levels of our government. It is now time to take our country back. >> >> The "collapse" of WTC Building 7 [570 feet tall, 47 stories, and not hit by >> an airplane] shows beyond any doubt that the demolitions were pre-planned. >> There is simply no way to demolish a 47-story building (on fire) over a >> coffee break. It is also impossible to report the building's collapse before >> it happened, as BBC News did, unless it was pre-planned. > >Just shows that even AF pilots can be kooks too. At least some of the >"pilots for truth" sound semi-credible......but this one, using the >"proof" mentioned above sounds like just another Rosie Odonnell >tinfoil hat wearing kook. > >On 911, reports that WTC7 appeared as though it could collapse at any >moment started airing at around noon or 1pm. Reporters knew it would >collapse just by the perilous appearance of the building....it wasn't >a matter of if it would collapse, it was when. Yet this AF pilot kook >uses the BBC thing as proof that the building was brought down by >controlled demolition????? > Yup. It was reported that NYFD had laser ragnefinders on parts of the building and saw it beginning to collapse. "Controled demolition" would have been sudden and a suprise to the people monitering them. No advance notice on the rangefinders. Besides, people would have heard the BANG BANG BANG from the charges without seeing the fall of debris to associate with the noise. -- a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001 Quote
Guest Docky Wocky Posted April 4, 2007 Posted April 4, 2007 Kooks like this colonel are highly significant by virtue of the fact that they are alone in coming to the proper conspiracy kook conclusion. Where are the thousands of military personnel who would have had to be involved in a conspiracy? One? This flyboy is very suspect. Especially since he cannot bring along one corroborating witness, but has only come to his own kookie conclusion. Quote
Guest Hertz_Donut Posted April 4, 2007 Posted April 4, 2007 "sandman" <sandman@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:qtbee.73m.17.1@news.alt.net... > > "Al Dykes" <adykes@panix.com> wrote in message > news:ev0ld1$n52$1@panix5.panix.com... >> In article <qta62.ks0.19.1@news.alt.net>, sandman <sandman@hotmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>>Air Force Fighter Pilot and Instructor Comes Out for 9/11 Truth >>> >>>http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2007/020407_b_Pilot.htm >>>Monday April 2, 2007 >>> >>>Every day, additional military and government people come out for 9/11 >>>truth. The latest is Col. Guy S. Razer. >>> >>> Col. Guy S. Razer, MS, U.S. Air Force (ret) - Retired U.S. Air Force >>>fighter pilot (F-111, F-15E, F-16, B-1, F-18, Mig-29, and Suu-22). Flew >>>combat missions over Iraq. Former instructor at the USAF Fighter Weapons >>>School and NATO's Tactical Leadership Program. >>> >>> Col. Razer's statement: >>> >>>"After 4+ years of research since retirement in 2002, I am 100% convinced >>>that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned, organized, and >>>committed by treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest >>>levels of our government. It is now time to take our country back. >>> >>>The "collapse" of WTC Building 7 [570 feet tall, 47 stories, and not hit >>>by >>>an airplane] shows beyond any doubt that the demolitions were >>>pre-planned. >> >> >> "not hit by an airplane" LMAO. >> >> What is this flyboy's expertise in the demolition of large buldings >> other than by bombing from xx thousands ft. >> > > You're an Israeli. > You're an idiot... Honu Quote
Guest Scotius Posted April 4, 2007 Posted April 4, 2007 On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 09:44:48 -0700, "sandman" <sandman@hotmail.com> wrote: > >Air Force Fighter Pilot and Instructor Comes Out for 9/11 Truth > >http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2007/020407_b_Pilot.htm >Monday April 2, 2007 > >Every day, additional military and government people come out for 9/11 >truth. The latest is Col. Guy S. Razer. > > Col. Guy S. Razer, MS, U.S. Air Force (ret) - Retired U.S. Air Force >fighter pilot (F-111, F-15E, F-16, B-1, F-18, Mig-29, and Suu-22). Flew >combat missions over Iraq. Former instructor at the USAF Fighter Weapons >School and NATO's Tactical Leadership Program. > > Col. Razer's statement: > >"After 4+ years of research since retirement in 2002, I am 100% convinced >that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned, organized, and >committed by treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest >levels of our government. It is now time to take our country back. > >The "collapse" of WTC Building 7 [570 feet tall, 47 stories, and not hit by >an airplane] shows beyond any doubt that the demolitions were pre-planned. >There is simply no way to demolish a 47-story building (on fire) over a >coffee break. It is also impossible to report the building's collapse before >it happened, as BBC News did, unless it was pre-planned. Further damning >evidence is Larry Silverstein's video taped confession in which he states >"they made that decision to pull [WTC 7] and we watched the building >collapse." It was probably demolished because it's computers were being broken into. Do some real research. See if you can find out what satellites were over Manhattan at the time of the attacks. I did. > >We cannot let the pursuit of justice fail. Those of us in the military took >an oath to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against >all enemies, foreign and domestic". Just because we have retired does not >make that oath invalid, so it is not just our responsibility, it is our duty >to expose the real perpetrators of 9/11 and bring them to justice, no matter >how hard it is, how long it takes, or how much we have to suffer to do it. > >We owe it to those who have gone before us who executed that same oath, and >who are doing the same thing in Iraq and Afghanistan right now. Those of us >who joined the military and faithfully executed orders that were given us >had to trust our leaders. The violation and abuse of that trust is not only >heinous, but ultimately the most accurate definition of treason!" > > > > > > > > > Quote
Guest sandman Posted April 4, 2007 Posted April 4, 2007 It is estimated that 10,000 Israelis are monitoring the Internet political groups, in variety of languages. PLONK "Al Dykes" <adykes@panix.com> wrote in message news:ev0ld1$n52$1@panix5.panix.com... > In article <qta62.ks0.19.1@news.alt.net>, sandman <sandman@hotmail.com> > wrote: >> >>Air Force Fighter Pilot and Instructor Comes Out for 9/11 Truth >> >>http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2007/020407_b_Pilot.htm >>Monday April 2, 2007 >> >>Every day, additional military and government people come out for 9/11 >>truth. The latest is Col. Guy S. Razer. >> >> Col. Guy S. Razer, MS, U.S. Air Force (ret) - Retired U.S. Air Force >>fighter pilot (F-111, F-15E, F-16, B-1, F-18, Mig-29, and Suu-22). Flew >>combat missions over Iraq. Former instructor at the USAF Fighter Weapons >>School and NATO's Tactical Leadership Program. >> >> Col. Razer's statement: >> >>"After 4+ years of research since retirement in 2002, I am 100% convinced >>that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned, organized, and >>committed by treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest >>levels of our government. It is now time to take our country back. >> >>The "collapse" of WTC Building 7 [570 feet tall, 47 stories, and not hit >>by >>an airplane] shows beyond any doubt that the demolitions were pre-planned. > > > "not hit by an airplane" LMAO. > > What is this flyboy's expertise in the demolition of large buldings > other than by bombing from xx thousands ft. > > -- > Air Force Fighter Pilot and Instructor Comes Out for 9/11 Truth http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2007/020407_b_Pilot.htm Monday April 2, 2007 Every day, additional military and government people come out for 9/11 truth. The latest is Col. Guy S. Razer. Col. Guy S. Razer, MS, U.S. Air Force (ret) - Retired U.S. Air Force fighter pilot (F-111, F-15E, F-16, B-1, F-18, Mig-29, and Suu-22). Flew combat missions over Iraq. Former instructor at the USAF Fighter Weapons School and NATO's Tactical Leadership Program. Col. Razer's statement: "After 4+ years of research since retirement in 2002, I am 100% convinced that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned, organized, and committed by treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest levels of our government. It is now time to take our country back. The "collapse" of WTC Building 7 [570 feet tall, 47 stories, and not hit by an airplane] shows beyond any doubt that the demolitions were pre-planned. There is simply no way to demolish a 47-story building (on fire) over a coffee break. It is also impossible to report the building's collapse before it happened, as BBC News did, unless it was pre-planned. Further damning evidence is Larry Silverstein's video taped confession in which he states "they made that decision to pull [WTC 7] and we watched the building collapse." We cannot let the pursuit of justice fail. Those of us in the military took an oath to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic". Just because we have retired does not make that oath invalid, so it is not just our responsibility, it is our duty to expose the real perpetrators of 9/11 and bring them to justice, no matter how hard it is, how long it takes, or how much we have to suffer to do it. We owe it to those who have gone before us who executed that same oath, and who are doing the same thing in Iraq and Afghanistan right now. Those of us who joined the military and faithfully executed orders that were given us had to trust our leaders. The violation and abuse of that trust is not only heinous, but ultimately the most accurate definition of treason!" Quote
Guest sandman Posted April 4, 2007 Posted April 4, 2007 It is estimated that 10,000 Israelis are monitoring the Internet political groups, in variety of languages. PLONK "Server 13" <its@casual.com> wrote in message news:ev0mqt$icc$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu... > > "sandman" <sandman@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:qtbee.73m.17.1@news.alt.net... >> >> "Al Dykes" <adykes@panix.com> wrote in message >> news:ev0ld1$n52$1@panix5.panix.com... >>> In article <qta62.ks0.19.1@news.alt.net>, sandman <sandman@hotmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>>Air Force Fighter Pilot and Instructor Comes Out for 9/11 Truth >>>> >>>>http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2007/020407_b_Pilot.htm >>>>Monday April 2, 2007 >>>> >>>>Every day, additional military and government people come out for 9/11 >>>>truth. The latest is Col. Guy S. Razer. >>>> >>>> Col. Guy S. Razer, MS, U.S. Air Force (ret) - Retired U.S. Air Force >>>>fighter pilot (F-111, F-15E, F-16, B-1, F-18, Mig-29, and Suu-22). Flew >>>>combat missions over Iraq. Former instructor at the USAF Fighter Weapons >>>>School and NATO's Tactical Leadership Program. >>>> >>>> Col. Razer's statement: >>>> >>>>"After 4+ years of research since retirement in 2002, I am 100% >>>>convinced >>>>that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned, organized, and >>>>committed by treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest >>>>levels of our government. It is now time to take our country back. >>>> >>>>The "collapse" of WTC Building 7 [570 feet tall, 47 stories, and not hit >>>>by >>>>an airplane] shows beyond any doubt that the demolitions were >>>>pre-planned. >>> >>> >>> "not hit by an airplane" LMAO. >>> >>> What is this flyboy's expertise in the demolition of large buldings >>> other than by bombing from xx thousands ft. >>> >> >> You're an Israeli. > > roflmao You'll need a lot more lipstick for this pig. > Quote
Guest sandman Posted April 4, 2007 Posted April 4, 2007 It is estimated that 10,000 Israelis are monitoring the Internet political groups, in variety of languages. PLONK "Docky Wocky" <mrchuck@lst.net> wrote in message news:OnRQh.3025$F%1.2850@trnddc01... > Kooks like this colonel are highly significant by virtue of the fact that > they are alone in coming to the proper conspiracy kook conclusion. > > Where are the thousands of military personnel who would have had to be > involved in a conspiracy? > > One? > > This flyboy is very suspect. Especially since he cannot bring along one > corroborating witness, but has only come to his own kookie conclusion. > > Quote
Guest Joseph Welch Posted April 4, 2007 Posted April 4, 2007 "Hertz_Donut" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:ztadnSkK--MNbY7bnZ2dnUVZ_r2onZ2d@hawaiiantel.net... > You're an idiot... You're a traitor who has turned his back on his own country. You really should get the fuck out. You don't deserve to live in America. -- ____________________ George W. Bush has made the terrorists stronger, their influence wider, their numbers larger, and their motivation to attack the U.S. and other western interests greater. He has repeatedly abused his authority and violated his Oath of Office by turning his back on the United States Constitution; thereby surrendering to the terrorists by undermining American freedoms,values, and the very foundations of our system of government. Supporting Bush is treason. _____________________ JW "You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?" http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/welch-mccarthy.html The New Face of the Republican Party http://tinyurl.com/y2j2yr Quote
Guest David Morgan \(MAMS\) Posted April 4, 2007 Posted April 4, 2007 "sandman" <sandman@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:qta62.ks0.19.1@news.alt.net... > > Air Force Fighter Pilot and Instructor Comes Out for 9/11 Truth > > http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2007/020407_b_Pilot.htm > Monday April 2, 2007 > > Every day, additional military and government people come out for 9/11 > truth. The latest is Col. Guy S. Razer. > > Col. Guy S. Razer, MS, U.S. Air Force (ret) - Retired U.S. Air Force > fighter pilot (F-111, F-15E, F-16, B-1, F-18, Mig-29, and Suu-22). Flew > combat missions over Iraq. Former instructor at the USAF Fighter Weapons > School and NATO's Tactical Leadership Program. > > Col. Razer's statement: > > "After 4+ years of research since retirement in 2002, I am 100% convinced > that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned, organized, and > committed by treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest > levels of our government. It is now time to take our country back. > > The "collapse" of WTC Building 7 [570 feet tall, 47 stories, and not hit by > an airplane] shows beyond any doubt that the demolitions were pre-planned. > There is simply no way to demolish a 47-story building (on fire) over a > coffee break. It is also impossible to report the building's collapse before > it happened, as BBC News did, unless it was pre-planned. Further damning > evidence is Larry Silverstein's video taped confession in which he states > "they made that decision to pull [WTC 7] and we watched the building > collapse." > > We cannot let the pursuit of justice fail. Those of us in the military took > an oath to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against > all enemies, foreign and domestic". Just because we have retired does not > make that oath invalid, so it is not just our responsibility, it is our duty > to expose the real perpetrators of 9/11 and bring them to justice, no matter > how hard it is, how long it takes, or how much we have to suffer to do it. > > We owe it to those who have gone before us who executed that same oath, and > who are doing the same thing in Iraq and Afghanistan right now. Those of us > who joined the military and faithfully executed orders that were given us > had to trust our leaders. The violation and abuse of that trust is not only > heinous, but ultimately the most accurate definition of treason!" Though I am happy to see any voice raised in opposition to the US corporate political Coup D'Etat of 2000, deeply covered by the events of 911, this has been going on for some time. http://www.pilotsfor911truth.org/ Quote
Guest David Morgan \(MAMS\) Posted April 4, 2007 Posted April 4, 2007 "sandman" <sandman@hotmail.com> wrote in message... > You're an Israeli. At best, the idiot Dykes is a shill who is also guilty of treason by way of voluntary ignorance. Quote
Guest Ben Turner Posted April 4, 2007 Posted April 4, 2007 Scotius wrote: > > It was probably demolished because it's computers were being > broken into. Do some real research. See if you can find out what > satellites were over Manhattan at the time of the attacks. I did. > >> There were scores of financial transfers going on when Building 7 went down. The recovered hard drives are being reconstructed and they are beginning to get a good handle on where the money was being transferred and by whom. Your idea about the building being demolished because the computers were being hacked is ridiculous. Ridiculous to the point of smelling suspiciously like disinformation. The owner of a demolition company estimated it would 30 or 40 trained men to wire that building in one day -- that's with no fires or environmental problems. That's pretty much prima facie evidence that the building was wired in advance. Most likely it was well in advance with a small covert crew belonging to a three letter covert government group. Quote
Guest David Morgan \(MAMS\) Posted April 4, 2007 Posted April 4, 2007 "whofan" <dgbrewer@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1175707383.996207.168680@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > On Apr 4, 12:44 pm, "sandman" <sand...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Air Force Fighter Pilot and Instructor Comes Out for 9/11 Truth > > > > http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2007/020407_b_Pilot.htm > > Monday April 2, 2007 > > > > Every day, additional military and government people come out for 9/11 > > truth. The latest is Col. Guy S. Razer. > > > > Col. Guy S. Razer, MS, U.S. Air Force (ret) - Retired U.S. Air Force > > fighter pilot (F-111, F-15E, F-16, B-1, F-18, Mig-29, and Suu-22). Flew > > combat missions over Iraq. Former instructor at the USAF Fighter Weapons > > School and NATO's Tactical Leadership Program. > > > > Col. Razer's statement: > > > > "After 4+ years of research since retirement in 2002, I am 100% convinced > > that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned, organized, and > > committed by treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest > > levels of our government. It is now time to take our country back. > > > > The "collapse" of WTC Building 7 [570 feet tall, 47 stories, and not hit by > > an airplane] shows beyond any doubt that the demolitions were pre-planned. > > There is simply no way to demolish a 47-story building (on fire) over a > > coffee break. It is also impossible to report the building's collapse before > > it happened, as BBC News did, unless it was pre-planned. > On 911, reports that WTC7 appeared as though it could collapse at any > moment started airing at around noon or 1pm. Reporters knew it would > collapse just by the perilous appearance of the building....it wasn't > a matter of if it would collapse, it was when. You too, are a shill idiot. Never before in history, nor since 911, has ANY steel framed scyscraper EVER collapsed from fire and minor surface damage. There is no way humanly possible, given that no precedent had EVER been previously set (other than the twin towers earlier that day) in history, that ANYONE could have predicted or anticipated such a collapse. You are a lying fool. Get a start on educating yourself here............. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8172271955308136871 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8076200333701191665 http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/bbc_wtc7_videos.html http://www.911research.wtc7.net/cache/wtc/evidence/usgs_hotspots.html http://www.wtc7.net/background.html Quote
Guest David Morgan \(MAMS\) Posted April 4, 2007 Posted April 4, 2007 "whofan" <dgbrewer@gmail.com> wrote in message... > Just shows that even AF pilots can be kooks too. Is there ANY proof you can offer (besides your shill mouthpiece) to couter the facts of the matter? I didn't think so............... Quote
Guest David Morgan \(MAMS\) Posted April 4, 2007 Posted April 4, 2007 "Docky Wocky" <mrchuck@lst.net> wrote in message news:OnRQh.3025$F%1.2850@trnddc01... > Kooks like this colonel are highly significant by virtue of the fact that > they are alone in coming to the proper conspiracy kook conclusion. Alone ?!? You are the fool here.... resting within the remaining 22% of American fools who still deny the truth. The latest poll figures are now up to 78% of Americans believing that the US government was either complicit in, or allowed the events of 911 to take place... and most certainly IS involved in the cover-up of that hypothesis. Start with these, get an education, have proof of your assertions before placing your foot into your mouth, and call us back when you're finished.... http://www.911sharethetruth.com/ http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/index.html http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/Resources.html http://www.reopen911.org/ http://patriotsquestion911.com/ http://www.pilotsfor911truth.org http://www.911weknow.com/linkspage.htm http://question911.com/links.php http://www.flight77.info/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Researchers_questioning_the_official_account_of_9/11 http://www.answers.com/topic/researchers-questioning-the-official-account-of-9-11 http://www.WingTV.net http://911truth.org http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/Article/Interrogating_9-11_Five_Years_On.html http://worldtradecentertruth.com/ 911 FOR THE TRUTH: http://www.911forthetruth.com 911 RESEARCH: http://911research.wtc7.net The Science: Fires and Buildings: 911 PHYSICS http://www.physics911.org FIREFIGHTERS VS 911 COMMISSION <http://www.911lies.org/fire_fighters_911_wtc_tapes.html> Muslims suspend laws of physics: http://www.public-action.com/911/jmcm/physics_1.html http://www.serendipity.li/wot/mslp_ii.htm Network in Britain and Ireland which agregates the efforts of all those campaigning in Europe for 911 truth. http://www.nineeleven.co.uk http://www.vestigialconscience.com/ Misc. archived conspiracy evidence Project for a New American Century Planned Iraq War Long Ago.... Information Clearing House http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1665.htm MSNBC Article: http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6814437 The Project's Web Site http://www.newamericancentury.org/ 9-11 and the IMPOSSIBLE http://home.comcast.net/~skydrifter/exp.htm The Implosion (so-called 'collapse') of WTC Building 7, coupled with the absence of substantiating evidence of a 757 crashing into the Pentagon are probably the biggest government screw-ups. More links to Bldg 7 and the Pentagon mixed in below. http://www.911research.wtc7.net/cache/wtc/evidence/usgs_hotspots.html http://www.wtc7.net/background.html http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/bbc_wtc7_videos.html EXPLOSIVES?? http://69.28.73.17/thornarticles/powerdown.html http://www.nynewsday.com/news/local/manhattan/wtc/ny-nyaler122362178sep12,0,6794009.story http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/Tower2Pulled.mp3 http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/Tower1Pulled.mp3 http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/911.wtc.ann.thompson.cars.wmv http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/911.wtc.secondary.explosions.jeffrey.beatty.wmv http://www.lewrockwell.com/reynolds/reynolds12.html http://www.arcticbeacon.com/articles/article/1518131/28031.htm http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8172271955308136871 The World Trade Center Demolition and the So-Called War on Terrorism http://www.serendipity.li/wtc.htm News and Resources on 9/11: 911 ONLINE RESEARCH http://www.cooperativeresearch.org 911 REVIEW http://www.911review.org (available in multiple languages) 911 TRUTH Los Angeles http://www.911truthla.us 9/11 VISIBILITY PROJECT National Campaign Center http://www.septembereleventh.org American Free Press: http://www.americanfreepress.net/ KILLTOWN 911 REVIEW http://killtown.911review.org Karl W. B. Schwarz - Online Journal - Great Source on Financial Basis for 9/11 http://onlinejournal.com/ PORTLAND INDEPENDENT MEDIA CENTER http://portland.indymedia.org UNANSWERED QUESTIONS http://www.unansweredquestions.org INTERNATIONAL CITIZEN'S INQUIRY INTO 9/11 http://www.911inquiry.org PETITION OF SOLIDARITY http://justicefor911.org "WHAT FAILED" -On Plague Puppy: http://www.plaguepuppy.net/public_html/Confronting%20the%20Evidence/what_failed_and_how.htm Conspiracy News Net http://www.conspiracynewsnet.com/ http://www.whatreallyhappened.com http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/ Hijacking Catastophe - http://207.44.245.159/article6895.htm Black Boxes coverup http://globalresearch.ca/articles/BUN410B.html Failure to defend America: (more of Paul Thompson's Timeline) http://www.billstclair.com/911timeline/main/essayairdefense.html http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0306/S00031.htm 9-11 Motivation http://www.antiwar.com/orig/utley7.html 911: Coincidence Theory The Coincidence Theorist's Guide to 9/11 http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/archive/scoop/stories/60/5a/200408231012.3bb72110.html Dov Zakheim, Pentagon Comptroller, ran drone plane company. http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?noframes;read=53486 Craig Hill's New Video: "Treason, Inc." Craig Hill documents the lies and actions of the Bush adminstration that amount to treason. Order here: http://www.hillsenatenow.org/ Some Alternative News Sites: CITIZENS FOR LEGIT GOVERNMENT http://legitgov.org MICHAEL RUPPERT'S http://www.fromthewilderness.com MARK CRISPIN MILLER'S http://markcrispinmiller.blogspot.com/ http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/ http://www.alternet.org/ http://www.yellowtimes.org/ http://www.indymedia.org/en/index.shtml http://www.antiwar.com http://www.iraqwar.org/ http://www.tvnewslies.org/ http://www.prisonPlanet.com http://www.Infowars.com http://www.libertyforum.org The Emperors New Clothes http://www.tenc.net/ Some Conspiracy Theory Sites: 911 CITIZEN'S WATCH: http://www.911citizenswatch.org 911 STRIKE http://www.911-strike.com 911 SKEPTICS UNITE http://911skeptics.blogspot.com 911 SHARE THE TRUTH http://www.911sharethetruth.com PROPOSITION 911 http://www.proposition911.org SCOTT LEDGER'S TRUTH SITE: http://www.scottledger.com Scientific Evidence that Official 9/11 Story is a Lie http://www.ditrianum.org/Artikelen/artikel33en.htm Videos and Media: 911 BUSTERS http://www.911busters.com http://www.911busters.com/911-Commission.html DOWNLOAD VIDEOS HERE: http://question911.com/links.php SNOWSHOE DOCUMENTARY FILMS http://www.snowshoefilms.com/911coverup.html Watch the movie 'September 11 Revisited' online at http://www.twf.org -- click on link in left hand column; or see: http://www.911revisited.com/ 911 TRUTH RADIO http://www.911truthradio.com VIDEO ANALYSIS BY ALEX JONES: WTC7 - THE HIDDEN STORY OF BUILDING: 7 http://www.wtc7.net IN PLANE SITE: http://www.911inplanesite.com LOOSE CHANGE: http://www.loosechange911.com/ http://www.wtc7.net/videos.html http://www.911busters.com http://www.libertybound.com http://www.infowars.com/videos.html#MOT http://www.infowars.com/videos.html http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3995.htm http://www.globalresearch.ca/globaloutlook/coverup.html http://www.innworldreport.net http://www.911truthbristol.com/videos/films.html http://www.911tv.org THE POWER OF NIGHTMARES Part One - 59 Minutes <http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8217638438978899371> Part Two - 59 Minutes <http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2839463332690200955> Part Three - 59 Minutes <http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3649090417189127240> "EagarBeavers and Faulty Towers" http://www.plaguepuppy.net/public_html/Confronting%20the%20Evidence/what_failed_and_how.htm Webster Tarpley audio interview (low bit rate... easy to stream on dial-up) http://www.cloakanddagger.de/shows/webcast/_Tarpley_/CLOAK_TARPLEYNOV14.mp3 9/11 VISIBILITY PROJECT National Campaign Center: http://www.septembereleventh.org NEW YORK 9/11 Truth: http://www.summeroftruth.org or http://www.ny911truth.org Hot Politics - By Owen Whitman Libertarian website with many 9/11 and Iraq War articles. http://www.hotpolitics.com PENTAGON Until the wall collapsed, the hole in the Pentagon was a 17 ft circle (approximately) which penetrated 6 steel-reinforced concrete walls... directly into the newly beefed-up (structurally remodeled) area which was temporarily housing the NIS, who were then investigating the $2.3 TRILLION dollars in MISSING Pentagon funds. An issue, that like Enron, was immediately dropped from the news and swept under the carpet. Any public evidence of bodies or aircraft wreckage from the Pentagon is virtually non-existant. http://judicial-inc.biz/pentagon_flight.htm http://www.apfn.org/apfn/flight77.htm http://0911.site.voila.fr/ http://0911.site.voila.fr/index11.htm http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/pentagone/erreurs_en.htm http://www.loosechange911.com/pentagon.htm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1907955.stm http://www.thepowerhour.com/911_analysis/pentagon-911.htm http://www.serendipity.li/wtc3.htm http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/pentagon.html http://judicial-inc.biz/Dov_Zakheim_Fl_77.htm http://www.amics21.com/911/pentagon.html http://www.wanttoknow.info/911information http://www.PentagonResearch.com Thierry Meyssan, Original French Author Exposing the possible Pentagon Hoax http://www.pentagate.info/sommaire-en.html -- his website recently has been closed, but early news (April, 2002) of this Frenchman's book on the 'alleged' Pentagon crash is here... http://www.nationalreview.com/robbins/robbins040902.asp (Now you know why we had "freedom fries" for so long) 911 SEISMIC DATA: Seismic data was, of course, COMPLETELY OMITTED from both NIST and FEMA reports. http://www.rense.com/general67/forensic.htm http://uscrisis.lege.net/911/ http://anderson.ath.cx:8000/911/hj07.html <2002> http://www.rense.com/general28/ioff.htm http://911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/guardian2/wtc/seismic/WTC_LDEO_KIM.htm http://911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/guardian2/wtc/seismic/WTC_PENT_KIM.htm http://www.mgs.md.gov/esic/publications/download/911pentagon.pdf More on flight 93 http://killtown.911review.org/htb2.html http://letsroll911.org/phpwebsite/index.php?module=announce&ANN_user_op=view&ANN_id=34 THE 911 OSAMA CONFESSION TAPE... Have you asked yourself the same question regarding the original Osama / 911 'confession' tape? A small child could determine that this was completely faked. http://www.viewzone.com/osama.html http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osamatape.html http://www.mujca.com/osama.htm http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/farenheit911michaelmoore.html http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/realityzone/UFNOsamatapefake.htm http://tim.2wgroup.com/blog/archives/001006.html http://www.freedomisforeverybody.org/Osama%20bin%20CIA%20Agent.php?id=1521491 http://www.aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_ID=11633 http://www.ilaam.net/Sept11/TapeIsFraud.html Current Osama Info: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=SCH20060601&articleId=2555 http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=15490 http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=4592 http://educate-yourself.org/cn/osamafakedtape30may06.shtml http://www.rebelwarez.com/rebelblog/2006/09/08/bin-laden-tape-betrays-phony-hijacker-contradiction/ http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/PressRelease28May2006.html http://www.williambowles.info/spysrus/osama_fake.html http://www.ilaam.net/Sept11/TapeIsFraud.html http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=76&contentid=413&page=2 ON bin LADEN... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8853000/site/newsweek/ http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/030804fa_fact http://www.usatoday.com/news/sept11/2002/02/05/usat-binladen-frustration.htm http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7932.shtml http://www.rinf.com/columnists/news/cia-operative-says-bush-military-leaders-let-bin-laden-escape http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/03/24/pentagon.binladen/index.html http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/FJ26Ag01.html http://www.infowars.com/articles/iraq/let_laden_escape.htm http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A62618-2002Apr16¬Found=true http://www.oilempire.us/bushbinladen.html ON ZARQARI ... http://www.taylormarsh.com/archives_view.php?id=2301 http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/us-allowed-zarqawi-to-escape/2006/04/30/1146335608444.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/trey-ellis/who-will-finally-explain-_b_7585.html http://mediamatters.org/items/200410270007 http://www.democrats.com/zarqawi http://www.juancole.com/2005/12/one-that-got-away-cnn-is-reporting.html Where does GWB fit in? http://www.bushdid911.org WERE THE BUSH AND BinLADEN FAMILIES IN BUSINESS TOGETHER? http://www.oilempire.us/bush-binladen.html http://www.bushwatch.com/bushmoney.htm http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/conspiracytheories/saudi.html http://www.hereinreality.com/carlyle.html http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/articleshow?art_id=1030259305 http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=971322003 http://tvnewslies.org/html/bin_laden_ties.html http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/09_18_01_bushbin.html http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/10_09_01_carlyle.html http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/ http://www.judicialwatch.org/1685.shtml http://www.rense.com/general14/bushsformer.htm http://www.prisonplanet.com/bin_laden_family_link_to_bush.html http://www.inthesetimes.com/issue/25/25/feature3.shtml http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/WAL110A.html http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?011112fa_FACT3 http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3308.htm http://www.thedubyareport.com/bushbin.html http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0111-01.htm http://martiallaw911.info/archive/0-26-39.htm http://dir.salon.com/story/books/feature/2004/03/11/unger_1/index.html OLDER BUSH'S - doing business with Germany in WW-II Dial-up: http://70.84.33.210/%7Einfomedi/video/previews/150305martialpreview_mdm.wmv DSL: http://70.84.33.210/%7Einfomedi/video/previews/150305martialpreview.wmv The Presidential "Signing Statement" dictatorship... http://www.abanet.org/media/releases/news072406.html http://www.fff.org/comment/com0610c.asp http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20060113.html http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/signingstatements.php http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/060721/21signing.htm http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/07/25/dobbs.july26/index.html http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1149361,00.htm http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/04/30/bush_challenges_hundreds_of_laws/ http://www.coherentbabble.com/signingstatements/TOCindex.htm http://www.fff.org/comment/com0610c.asp http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/27/AR2006062700145.html http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,1828114,00.html?gusrc=rss http://www.antiwar.com/ips/fisher.php?articleid=9222 http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2007/02/13/the-signing-statement-dictatorship/ And over one million more.... http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=George+Bush%2C+signing+statements&btnG=Google+Search "National Security Letters" (gag orders) silence patriots, courts, media & business as they pry into America's private side. http://www.techlawjournal.com/topstories/2005/20050824a.asp http://writ.news.findlaw.com/ramasastry/20060109.html http://www.aclu.org/safefree/nationalsecurityletters/index.html http://www.aclu.org/safefree/patriot/17458res20040929.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/05/AR2005110501366.html http://reclaimdemocracy.org/articles_2004/national_security_letters.html http://www.sptimes.com/2005/11/13/Columns/National_security_let.shtml http://leahy.senate.gov/press/200512/120805.html And over 67 Million more.... http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=National+security+letter&btnG=Google+Search THE BOGUS FEMA AND NIST INVESTIGATIONS... This is the largest cover-up in American history, from a panel comprised mostly of Bush cabinet cronies with too many conflicting interests to be taken seriously. Who themselves, complain that there was too little money, too little time, and too much "pressure" to complete the report with enough accuracy. It's based on assumptions and contains overtly false information, and failed to answer the questions which when finally raised legally, forced the government to appoint the team... but long after the country was at was and the 911 evidence removed. http://vancouver.indymedia.org/?q=node/1634 http://911research.wtc7.net/resources/books/index.html http://www.septembereleventh.org/ http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2006/911-WTC-NIST-Lies30mar06.htm http://www.911review.com/coverup/nist.html http://visibility911.libsyn.com/ http://www.answers.com/topic/researchers-questioning-the-official-account-of-9-11 http://www.organicconsumers.org/politics/911012306.cfm http://www.justicefor911.org/Contents_and_Evidence_111904.php http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/print_friendly.php?p=opedne_sheila_s_060329_9_2f11____eliminating_.htm http://www.911citizenswatch.org/print.php?sid=895 http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041221155307646 http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20060405143535564 http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/Article/Interrogating_9-11_Five_Years_On.html http://forum.physorg.com/index.php?showtopic=4418&st=2040 http://forum.physorg.com/index.php?showtopic=4418&st=2010 http://worldtradecentertruth.com/Article_1_Ryan5.pdf#search=%22NIST%20report%20on%20911%2C%20Omissions%20and%20distortions%22 http://www.vtcommons.org/node/190 http://www.tpmcafe.com/node/28070 http://911smokingguns.com/ http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=21137 VOTE FRAUD Vote Fraud MSNBC Video 2004 - http://www.vestigialconscience.com/5.countdown_56k.mov http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_U.S._presidential_election_controversy_and_irregularities http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_United_States_presidential_election_controversy%2C_exit_polls http://nightweed.com/usavotefacts.html http://www.blackboxvoting.org http://www.alternet.org/bloggers/evan/40755/ http://itpolicy.princeton.edu/voting/summary.html http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/2004votefraud.html http://vote2004.eriposte.com/ http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2004/031104votefraud.htm http://www.votersunite.org/electionproblems.asp http://www.ideamouth.com/voterfraud.htm http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/2004_vote_fraud.html http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election_stolen http://www.projectcensored.org/newsflash/voter_fraud.html http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0411/S00124.htm http://www.legitgov.org/coup_2004.html http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/122404X.shtml http://www.thewe.cc/contents/more/archive/united_states_voting_procedures.html http://www.seminolechronicle.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2004/12/16/41c2fdb042ea1 Video / Bev Harris - http://prisonplanet.tv/audio/041104harris.htm http://www.counterpunch.org/swanson11082004.html http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1118-22.htm http://www.tvnewslies.org/html/election_2004.html http://www.epionline.org/news_detail.cfm?rid=84 http://www.truthinvoting.org/ http://blackvoternetwork.com/votefraud.htm http://www.flcv.com/fraudpat.html http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/110504Chin/110504chin.html More links at http://www.squadron13.com/JackDresser/electionfraud.htm And at bottom... http://www.pamrotella.com/polhist/elections2004.html "We cannot accept this result as legitimate, because it does not meet international standards. We call for a full review of the conduct of the election and the tallying." --Colin Powell on the 2004 election Outraged republican moderates: http://www.outragedmoderates.org/Page4.html Who in current government served their nation in combat? http://www.awolbush.com/ http://www.awolbush.com/cheney.html http://www.awolbush.com/whoserved.html http://www.democrats.com/display.cfm?id=165 http://www.rackjite.com/chawks.htm http://www.houstonpress.com/issues/1999-01-07/columns2.html/1/index.html MEDIA CONTROL 5 companies (well, 6 really) control ALL of the media you see or hear in the United States. Each of these makes so much money that there is little chance of them hurting. You can view the information on the controlling interests below. These are tough times in America and many things about media (like conglomerates and control) seriously need to be fixed, so that this country isn't jointly spoon fed the lies which could lead to it's demise. http://www.nowfoundation.org/issues/communications/tv/mediacontrol.html ILLUMINATI... (Also referred to as: "The New World Order") http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/illuminatiagendabestoverviewyet8jun02.shtml http://www.rotten.com/library/conspiracy/illuminati/ http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Illuminati.htm http://www.geocities.com/francis_uy/halliburton.html http://skepdic.com/illuminati.html http://www.mysteries-megasite.com/main/bigsearch/luminati.html http://poweredbychrist.homestead.com/files/bush/rituals.htm 'Illuminati' has been a part of world history for centuries and is highly threatening to a peaceful humanity. SKULL & BONES.... http://www.propagandamatrix.com/white_house_bonesman_leads_nation_into_the_dark.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_and_Bones http://www.jeremiahproject.com/newworldorder/nworder03.html http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/10/02/60minutes/main576332.shtml http://www.parascope.com/articles/0997/skullbones.htm http://www.freedomdomain.com/skullbones.html http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/bones.htm http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/8425/BONES.HTM http://www.rotten.com/library/conspiracy/skull-and-bones/ Casual commentary style reporting from March 28, 2006 "Eliminating the Impossible" By Sheila Samples http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/print_friendly.php?p=opedne_sheila_s_060329_9_2f11____eliminating_.htm Quote
Guest David Morgan \(MAMS\) Posted April 4, 2007 Posted April 4, 2007 "Ben Turner" <BenTurner@notvalid.address> wrote in message news:R3WQh.18334$PL.2350@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net... > Scotius wrote: > > > > > It was probably demolished because it's computers were being > > broken into. Do some real research. See if you can find out what > > satellites were over Manhattan at the time of the attacks. I did. > There were scores of financial transfers going on when Building 7 went down. > The recovered hard drives are being reconstructed and they are beginning to > get a good handle on where the money was being transferred and by whom. > > Your idea about the building being demolished because the computers were > being hacked is ridiculous. Ridiculous to the point of smelling suspiciously > like disinformation. > > The owner of a demolition company estimated it would 30 or 40 trained men to > wire that building in one day -- that's with no fires or environmental > problems. That's pretty much prima facie evidence that the building was > wired in advance. Most likely it was well in advance with a small covert > crew belonging to a three letter covert government group. Quite a nice observation; especially your second paragraph.... it shows some sense of thinking for yourself. 5-stars... ;-) Quote
Guest Hertz_Donut Posted April 4, 2007 Posted April 4, 2007 "Joseph Welch" <seattledemocracy@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:13183ienrckrl44@corp.supernews.com... > > "Hertz_Donut" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message > news:ztadnSkK--MNbY7bnZ2dnUVZ_r2onZ2d@hawaiiantel.net... > >> You're an idiot... > > You're a traitor who has turned his back on his own country. > > You really should get the fuck out. You don't deserve to live in America. > > Like I have told you before, coward...fuck off. I can't believe no one has put a cap in your ignorant ass yet. Honu Quote
Guest David Morgan \(MAMS\) Posted April 5, 2007 Posted April 5, 2007 > "Joseph Welch" <seattledemocracy@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:13183ienrckrl44@corp.supernews.com... > > "Hertz_Donut" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message > > news:ztadnSkK--MNbY7bnZ2dnUVZ_r2onZ2d@hawaiiantel.net... > >> > >> You're an idiot... > > You're a traitor who has turned his back on his own country. You obviously wouldn't know a traitor if one bit you on the ass... you probably even voted for the ones who occupy the US executive branch based on the coolest TV advertising. Quote
Guest Al Dykes Posted April 5, 2007 Posted April 5, 2007 In article <6_VQh.5346$i93.4816@trnddc05>, David Morgan \(MAMS\) <findme@m-a-m-s.comC/Odm> wrote: > >"sandman" <sandman@hotmail.com> wrote in message... > >> You're an Israeli. > > >At best, the idiot Dykes is a shill who is also guilty of treason by way of voluntary ignorance. > > Yes, Mr. "ground effect" pilot and expert navigator around Manhattan. -- a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001 Quote
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