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Guest Al Dykes
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In article <hcWQh.5352$i93.3709@trnddc05>,

David Morgan \(MAMS\) <findme@m-a-m-s.comC/Odm> wrote:

>

>"Docky Wocky" <mrchuck@lst.net> wrote in message news:OnRQh.3025$F%1.2850@trnddc01...

>

>> Kooks like this colonel are highly significant by virtue of the fact that

>> they are alone in coming to the proper conspiracy kook conclusion.

>

>Alone ?!?

>

>

>You are the fool here.... resting within the remaining 22% of American fools

 

 

Don't conflate the 27% support for Bush with any idea that 63% think

moonbeams knocked down the WTC towers.

 

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Guest Al Dykes
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In article <PeWQh.5353$i93.2535@trnddc05>,

David Morgan \(MAMS\) <findme@m-a-m-s.comC/Odm> wrote:

>

>"Ben Turner" <BenTurner@notvalid.address> wrote in message news:R3WQh.18334$PL.2350@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...

>> Scotius wrote:

>>

>> >

>> > It was probably demolished because it's computers were being

>> > broken into. Do some real research. See if you can find out what

>> > satellites were over Manhattan at the time of the attacks. I did.

>

>

>> There were scores of financial transfers going on when Building 7 went down.

>> The recovered hard drives are being reconstructed and they are beginning to

>> get a good handle on where the money was being transferred and by whom.

>>

>> Your idea about the building being demolished because the computers were

>> being hacked is ridiculous. Ridiculous to the point of smelling suspiciously

>> like disinformation.

>>

>> The owner of a demolition company estimated it would 30 or 40 trained men to

>> wire that building in one day -- that's with no fires or environmental

>> problems. That's pretty much prima facie evidence that the building was

>> wired in advance. Most likely it was well in advance with a small covert

>> crew belonging to a three letter covert government group.

>

>

>Quite a nice observation; especially your second paragraph.... it shows some

>sense of thinking for yourself.

>

 

Yet another child that has never manages facilities in a

big building.

 

Nobody that knows anything about construction or demolition says that

thermate/thermite/explosives were used, or needed, to collaspe

WTC1/2/7.

 

 

 

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Guest Al Dykes
Posted

In article <NYVQh.5345$i93.1058@trnddc05>,

David Morgan \(MAMS\) <findme@m-a-m-s.comC/Odm> wrote:

>

>"sandman" <sandman@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:qta62.ks0.19.1@news.alt.net...

>>

>> Air Force Fighter Pilot and Instructor Comes Out for 9/11 Truth

>>

>> http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2007/020407_b_Pilot.htm

>> Monday April 2, 2007

>>

>> Every day, additional military and government people come out for 9/11

>> truth. The latest is Col. Guy S. Razer.

>>

>> Col. Guy S. Razer, MS, U.S. Air Force (ret) - Retired U.S. Air Force

>> fighter pilot (F-111, F-15E, F-16, B-1, F-18, Mig-29, and Suu-22). Flew

>> combat missions over Iraq. Former instructor at the USAF Fighter Weapons

>> School and NATO's Tactical Leadership Program.

>>

>> Col. Razer's statement:

>>

>> "After 4+ years of research since retirement in 2002, I am 100% convinced

>> that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned, organized, and

>> committed by treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest

>> levels of our government. It is now time to take our country back.

>>

>> The "collapse" of WTC Building 7 [570 feet tall, 47 stories, and not hit by

>> an airplane] shows beyond any doubt that the demolitions were pre-planned.

>> There is simply no way to demolish a 47-story building (on fire) over a

>> coffee break. It is also impossible to report the building's collapse before

>> it happened, as BBC News did, unless it was pre-planned. Further damning

>> evidence is Larry Silverstein's video taped confession in which he states

>> "they made that decision to pull [WTC 7] and we watched the building

>> collapse."

>>

>> We cannot let the pursuit of justice fail. Those of us in the military took

>> an oath to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against

>> all enemies, foreign and domestic". Just because we have retired does not

>> make that oath invalid, so it is not just our responsibility, it is our duty

>> to expose the real perpetrators of 9/11 and bring them to justice, no matter

>> how hard it is, how long it takes, or how much we have to suffer to do it.

>>

>> We owe it to those who have gone before us who executed that same oath, and

>> who are doing the same thing in Iraq and Afghanistan right now. Those of us

>> who joined the military and faithfully executed orders that were given us

>> had to trust our leaders. The violation and abuse of that trust is not only

>> heinous, but ultimately the most accurate definition of treason!"

>

>

>Though I am happy to see any voice raised in opposition to the US corporate

>political Coup D'Etat of 2000, deeply covered by the events of 911, this has

>been going on for some time.

>

>http://www.pilotsfor911truth.org/

>

 

What is "this"?

 

 

 

 

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Guest Al Dykes
Posted

In article <H7WQh.5349$i93.1790@trnddc05>,

David Morgan \(MAMS\) <findme@m-a-m-s.comC/Odm> wrote:

>

>"whofan" <dgbrewer@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1175707383.996207.168680@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

>> On Apr 4, 12:44 pm, "sandman" <sand...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>> > Air Force Fighter Pilot and Instructor Comes Out for 9/11 Truth

>> >

>> > http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2007/020407_b_Pilot.htm

>> > Monday April 2, 2007

>> >

>> > Every day, additional military and government people come out for 9/11

>> > truth. The latest is Col. Guy S. Razer.

>> >

>> > Col. Guy S. Razer, MS, U.S. Air Force (ret) - Retired U.S. Air Force

>> > fighter pilot (F-111, F-15E, F-16, B-1, F-18, Mig-29, and Suu-22). Flew

>> > combat missions over Iraq. Former instructor at the USAF Fighter Weapons

>> > School and NATO's Tactical Leadership Program.

>> >

>> > Col. Razer's statement:

>> >

>> > "After 4+ years of research since retirement in 2002, I am 100% convinced

>> > that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned, organized, and

>> > committed by treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest

>> > levels of our government. It is now time to take our country back.

>> >

>> > The "collapse" of WTC Building 7 [570 feet tall, 47 stories, and not hit by

>> > an airplane] shows beyond any doubt that the demolitions were pre-planned.

>> > There is simply no way to demolish a 47-story building (on fire) over a

>> > coffee break. It is also impossible to report the building's collapse before

>> > it happened, as BBC News did, unless it was pre-planned.

>

>

>> On 911, reports that WTC7 appeared as though it could collapse at any

>> moment started airing at around noon or 1pm. Reporters knew it would

>> collapse just by the perilous appearance of the building....it wasn't

>> a matter of if it would collapse, it was when.

>

>

>You too, are a shill idiot. Never before in history, nor since 911, has ANY

>steel framed scyscraper EVER collapsed from fire and minor surface

>damage.

>

>There is no way humanly possible, given that no precedent had EVER been

>previously set (other than the twin towers earlier that day) in history, that

>ANYONE could have predicted or anticipated such a collapse. You are

>a lying fool.

>

 

 

When rangefinders pointed at WTC7 showed the builing shifting, NYFD

knew it was comming down. By 5PM there were lots of people watching.

 

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Guest Joseph Welch
Posted

"Hertz_Donut" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message

news:fvqdnVX0KtLsqInbnZ2dnUVZ_tCtnZ2d@hawaiiantel.net...

> Like I have told you before, coward...fuck off.

 

You are the coward - and the traitor you unAmerican terrorist-helping

scumbag.

> I can't believe no one has put a cap in your ignorant ass yet.

 

So you think I should be shot for my views, eh traitor? Spoken like a true

terrorist.

 

Clearly you don't deserve to live in this great nation, as you're against

everything that it stands for.

 

You really should get the fuck out of America. This country has done so

much for you and yet you turn your back on everything that it stands for.

 

You are scum.

 

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____________________

 

 

George W. Bush has made the terrorists stronger, their influence wider,

their numbers larger, and their motivation to attack the U.S. and other

western interests greater. He has repeatedly abused his authority and

violated his Oath of Office by turning his back on the United States

Constitution; thereby surrendering to the terrorists by undermining American

freedoms,values, and the very foundations of our system of government.

Supporting Bush is treason.

_____________________

 

 

JW

 

"You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have

you left no sense of decency?"

http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/welch-mccarthy.html

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Guest sandman
Posted

"David Morgan (MAMS)" <findme@m-a-m-s.comC/Odm> wrote in message

news:H7WQh.5349$i93.1790@trnddc05...

>

> "whofan" <dgbrewer@gmail.com> wrote in message

> news:1175707383.996207.168680@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

>> On Apr 4, 12:44 pm, "sandman" <sand...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>> > Air Force Fighter Pilot and Instructor Comes Out for 9/11 Truth

>> >

>> > http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2007/020407_b_Pilot.htm

>> > Monday April 2, 2007

>> >

>> > Every day, additional military and government people come out for 9/11

>> > truth. The latest is Col. Guy S. Razer.

>> >

>> > Col. Guy S. Razer, MS, U.S. Air Force (ret) - Retired U.S. Air Force

>> > fighter pilot (F-111, F-15E, F-16, B-1, F-18, Mig-29, and Suu-22). Flew

>> > combat missions over Iraq. Former instructor at the USAF Fighter

>> > Weapons

>> > School and NATO's Tactical Leadership Program.

>> >

>> > Col. Razer's statement:

>> >

>> > "After 4+ years of research since retirement in 2002, I am 100%

>> > convinced

>> > that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned, organized, and

>> > committed by treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest

>> > levels of our government. It is now time to take our country back.

>> >

>> > The "collapse" of WTC Building 7 [570 feet tall, 47 stories, and not

>> > hit by

>> > an airplane] shows beyond any doubt that the demolitions were

>> > pre-planned.

>> > There is simply no way to demolish a 47-story building (on fire) over a

>> > coffee break. It is also impossible to report the building's collapse

>> > before

>> > it happened, as BBC News did, unless it was pre-planned.

>

>

>> On 911, reports that WTC7 appeared as though it could collapse at any

>> moment started airing at around noon or 1pm. Reporters knew it would

>> collapse just by the perilous appearance of the building....it wasn't

>> a matter of if it would collapse, it was when.

>

>

> You too, are a shill idiot. Never before in history, nor since 911, has

> ANY

> steel framed scyscraper EVER collapsed from fire and minor surface

> damage.

>

> There is no way humanly possible, given that no precedent had EVER been

> previously set (other than the twin towers earlier that day) in history,

> that

> ANYONE could have predicted or anticipated such a collapse. You are

> a lying fool.

>

> Get a start on educating yourself here.............

>

>

>

> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8172271955308136871

> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8076200333701191665

> http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/bbc_wtc7_videos.html

> http://www.911research.wtc7.net/cache/wtc/evidence/usgs_hotspots.html

> http://www.wtc7.net/background.html

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

Those who support and defend the perpetrators, Israel and the Neocons, of

9/11 will never, ever be forgotten by the real America. And the special

punishment for this treason should be along the lines of being lined up on

the top of the Empire State Bldg, and having the choice of either jumping

over the side or being attacked with blow torches. Anything less would be

too humane. WE WILL NEVER FORGET WHO TOOK SIDES WITH THE PERPETRATORS AND

TAUNTED US.

 

http://www.stlukeorthodox.com/images/jpg/events/2002/july/memorial-5.jpg

Guest Defendario
Posted

Joseph Welch wrote:

> "Hertz_Donut" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message

> news:fvqdnVX0KtLsqInbnZ2dnUVZ_tCtnZ2d@hawaiiantel.net...

>

>> Like I have told you before, coward...fuck off.

>

> You are the coward - and the traitor you unAmerican terrorist-helping

> scumbag.

>

 

Hoe Gnu isn't an American. He's an IsReeLee psyops shill.

>> I can't believe no one has put a cap in your ignorant ass yet.

>

> So you think I should be shot for my views, eh traitor? Spoken like a true

> terrorist.

>

 

Of course. His idols are the Stern Gang and Irgun.

> Clearly you don't deserve to live in this great nation, as you're against

> everything that it stands for.

>

> You really should get the fuck out of America. This country has done so

> much for you and yet you turn your back on everything that it stands for.

>

> You are scum.

>

 

That's a quite accurate assessment. Plonk the zioTroll.

Guest Defendario
Posted

Al Dykes wrote:

> In article <hcWQh.5352$i93.3709@trnddc05>,

> David Morgan \(MAMS\) <findme@m-a-m-s.comC/Odm> wrote:

>> "Docky Wocky" <mrchuck@lst.net> wrote in message news:OnRQh.3025$F%1.2850@trnddc01...

>>

>>> Kooks like this colonel are highly significant by virtue of the fact that

>>> they are alone in coming to the proper conspiracy kook conclusion.

>> Alone ?!?

>>

>>

>> You are the fool here.... resting within the remaining 22% of American fools

>

>

> Don't conflate the 27% support for Bush with any idea that 63% think

> moonbeams knocked down the WTC towers.

>

 

The airplanes and fires sure as Hell didn't.

Guest Al Dykes
Posted

In article <57j0laF2c5e1nU2@mid.individual.net>,

Defendario <Defendario@netscape.com> wrote:

>Al Dykes wrote:

>> In article <hcWQh.5352$i93.3709@trnddc05>,

>> David Morgan \(MAMS\) <findme@m-a-m-s.comC/Odm> wrote:

>>> "Docky Wocky" <mrchuck@lst.net> wrote in message news:OnRQh.3025$F%1.2850@trnddc01...

>>>

>>>> Kooks like this colonel are highly significant by virtue of the fact that

>>>> they are alone in coming to the proper conspiracy kook conclusion.

>>> Alone ?!?

>>>

>>>

>>> You are the fool here.... resting within the remaining 22% of American fools

>>

>>

>> Don't conflate the 27% support for Bush with any idea that 63% think

>> moonbeams knocked down the WTC towers.

>>

>

>The airplanes and fires sure as Hell didn't.

>

 

 

Nobody with any expertise in construction or demolition agrees with

you.

 

 

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Guest Al Dykes
Posted

In article <57j0pmF2c5e1nU3@mid.individual.net>,

Defendario <Defendario@netscape.com> wrote:

>Al Dykes wrote:

>> In article <H7WQh.5349$i93.1790@trnddc05>,

>> David Morgan \(MAMS\) <findme@m-a-m-s.comC/Odm> wrote:

>>> "whofan" <dgbrewer@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1175707383.996207.168680@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

>>>> On Apr 4, 12:44 pm, "sandman" <sand...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>>>>> Air Force Fighter Pilot and Instructor Comes Out for 9/11 Truth

>>>>>

>>>>> http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2007/020407_b_Pilot.htm

>>>>> Monday April 2, 2007

>>>>>

>>>>> Every day, additional military and government people come out for 9/11

>>>>> truth. The latest is Col. Guy S. Razer.

>>>>>

>>>>> Col. Guy S. Razer, MS, U.S. Air Force (ret) - Retired U.S. Air Force

>>>>> fighter pilot (F-111, F-15E, F-16, B-1, F-18, Mig-29, and Suu-22). Flew

>>>>> combat missions over Iraq. Former instructor at the USAF Fighter Weapons

>>>>> School and NATO's Tactical Leadership Program.

>>>>>

>>>>> Col. Razer's statement:

>>>>>

>>>>> "After 4+ years of research since retirement in 2002, I am 100% convinced

>>>>> that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned, organized, and

>>>>> committed by treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest

>>>>> levels of our government. It is now time to take our country back.

>>>>>

>>>>> The "collapse" of WTC Building 7 [570 feet tall, 47 stories, and not hit by

>>>>> an airplane] shows beyond any doubt that the demolitions were pre-planned.

>>>>> There is simply no way to demolish a 47-story building (on fire) over a

>>>>> coffee break. It is also impossible to report the building's collapse before

>>>>> it happened, as BBC News did, unless it was pre-planned.

>>>

>>>> On 911, reports that WTC7 appeared as though it could collapse at any

>>>> moment started airing at around noon or 1pm. Reporters knew it would

>>>> collapse just by the perilous appearance of the building....it wasn't

>>>> a matter of if it would collapse, it was when.

>>>

>>> You too, are a shill idiot. Never before in history, nor since 911, has ANY

>>> steel framed scyscraper EVER collapsed from fire and minor surface

>>> damage.

>>>

>>> There is no way humanly possible, given that no precedent had EVER been

>>> previously set (other than the twin towers earlier that day) in history, that

>>> ANYONE could have predicted or anticipated such a collapse. You are

>>> a lying fool.

>>>

>>

>>

>> When rangefinders pointed at WTC7 showed the builing shifting, NYFD

>> knew it was comming down. By 5PM there were lots of people watching.

>>

>

>Rangefinders? LOL, but you imagine that rangefinders are normally used

>in firefighting?

>

 

For a potential building collapse, yes.

 

 

>Besides, that doesn't explain why the building took a perfect dive

>into its own basement. Nothing does, except for the obvious...

 

 

What else was it going to do? It was about as wide as it was high. It

burned out internally.

 

There was no "big hand" pushing it over.

 

 

 

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Guest Defendario
Posted

Al Dykes wrote:

> In article <H7WQh.5349$i93.1790@trnddc05>,

> David Morgan \(MAMS\) <findme@m-a-m-s.comC/Odm> wrote:

>> "whofan" <dgbrewer@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1175707383.996207.168680@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

>>> On Apr 4, 12:44 pm, "sandman" <sand...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>>>> Air Force Fighter Pilot and Instructor Comes Out for 9/11 Truth

>>>>

>>>> http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2007/020407_b_Pilot.htm

>>>> Monday April 2, 2007

>>>>

>>>> Every day, additional military and government people come out for 9/11

>>>> truth. The latest is Col. Guy S. Razer.

>>>>

>>>> Col. Guy S. Razer, MS, U.S. Air Force (ret) - Retired U.S. Air Force

>>>> fighter pilot (F-111, F-15E, F-16, B-1, F-18, Mig-29, and Suu-22). Flew

>>>> combat missions over Iraq. Former instructor at the USAF Fighter Weapons

>>>> School and NATO's Tactical Leadership Program.

>>>>

>>>> Col. Razer's statement:

>>>>

>>>> "After 4+ years of research since retirement in 2002, I am 100% convinced

>>>> that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned, organized, and

>>>> committed by treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest

>>>> levels of our government. It is now time to take our country back.

>>>>

>>>> The "collapse" of WTC Building 7 [570 feet tall, 47 stories, and not hit by

>>>> an airplane] shows beyond any doubt that the demolitions were pre-planned.

>>>> There is simply no way to demolish a 47-story building (on fire) over a

>>>> coffee break. It is also impossible to report the building's collapse before

>>>> it happened, as BBC News did, unless it was pre-planned.

>>

>>> On 911, reports that WTC7 appeared as though it could collapse at any

>>> moment started airing at around noon or 1pm. Reporters knew it would

>>> collapse just by the perilous appearance of the building....it wasn't

>>> a matter of if it would collapse, it was when.

>>

>> You too, are a shill idiot. Never before in history, nor since 911, has ANY

>> steel framed scyscraper EVER collapsed from fire and minor surface

>> damage.

>>

>> There is no way humanly possible, given that no precedent had EVER been

>> previously set (other than the twin towers earlier that day) in history, that

>> ANYONE could have predicted or anticipated such a collapse. You are

>> a lying fool.

>>

>

>

> When rangefinders pointed at WTC7 showed the builing shifting, NYFD

> knew it was comming down. By 5PM there were lots of people watching.

>

 

Rangefinders? LOL, but you imagine that rangefinders are normally used

in firefighting?

 

Besides, that doesn't explain why the building took a perfect dive

into its own basement. Nothing does, except for the obvious...

 

Which leads us to treason, doesn't it?

 

;D

Guest Al Dykes
Posted

In article <57j114F2c5e1nU4@mid.individual.net>,

Defendario <Defendario@netscape.com> wrote:

>ORIGINAL POSTLIST RESTORED

>

>Al Dykes wrote:

>> In article <R3WQh.18334$PL.2350@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net>,

>> Ben Turner <BenTurner@notvalid.address> wrote:

>>> Scotius wrote:

>>>

>>>> It was probably demolished because it's computers were being

>>>> broken into. Do some real research. See if you can find out what

>>>> satellites were over Manhattan at the time of the attacks. I did.

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> There were scores of financial transfers going on when Building 7 went down.

>>> The recovered hard drives are being reconstructed and they are beginning to

>>> get a good handle on where the money was being transferred and by whom.

>>

>>

>> Of course there were. The financial companies in WTC did that for a

>> living. You are insunuating that there was crime involved.

>>

>

>Obviously.

>

>> How so?

>>

>

>Insurance fraud and insider trading. Billions of dollars were involved.

>

 

Are you saying that the occuants knew they were about to blow up and

made trade for their advantage instead of running out of the building?

 

Are you saying that thousands of people inside the building knew,

and nobody outside the building did, beforehand.

 

Giggle.

 

 

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Guest Defendario
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ORIGINAL POSTLIST RESTORED

 

Al Dykes wrote:

> In article <R3WQh.18334$PL.2350@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net>,

> Ben Turner <BenTurner@notvalid.address> wrote:

>> Scotius wrote:

>>

>>> It was probably demolished because it's computers were being

>>> broken into. Do some real research. See if you can find out what

>>> satellites were over Manhattan at the time of the attacks. I did.

>>>

>>

>>

>> There were scores of financial transfers going on when Building 7 went down.

>> The recovered hard drives are being reconstructed and they are beginning to

>> get a good handle on where the money was being transferred and by whom.

>

>

> Of course there were. The financial companies in WTC did that for a

> living. You are insunuating that there was crime involved.

>

 

Obviously.

> How so?

>

 

Insurance fraud and insider trading. Billions of dollars were involved.

>

>

Guest Defendario
Posted

Al Dykes wrote:

> In article <57j0laF2c5e1nU2@mid.individual.net>,

> Defendario <Defendario@netscape.com> wrote:

>> Al Dykes wrote:

>>> In article <hcWQh.5352$i93.3709@trnddc05>,

>>> David Morgan \(MAMS\) <findme@m-a-m-s.comC/Odm> wrote:

>>>> "Docky Wocky" <mrchuck@lst.net> wrote in message news:OnRQh.3025$F%1.2850@trnddc01...

>>>>

>>>>> Kooks like this colonel are highly significant by virtue of the fact that

>>>>> they are alone in coming to the proper conspiracy kook conclusion.

>>>> Alone ?!?

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> You are the fool here.... resting within the remaining 22% of American fools

>>>

>>> Don't conflate the 27% support for Bush with any idea that 63% think

>>> moonbeams knocked down the WTC towers.

>>>

>> The airplanes and fires sure as Hell didn't.

>>

>

>

> Nobody with any expertise in construction or demolition agrees with

> you.

>

 

Nobody? I happen to work construction, and demolition is one of my

specialties.

 

Have sledge, will travel.

 

Who do you work for, Al? Why do you so ferociously uphold the Official

Conspiracy Lies of 9/11?

 

You don't really believe that bearded mystics in Afghanistan caused the

entire American Air Defense system to stand down, do you?

 

;D

>

Guest Defendario
Posted

Al Dykes wrote:

> In article <57j0pmF2c5e1nU3@mid.individual.net>,

> Defendario <Defendario@netscape.com> wrote:

>> Al Dykes wrote:

>>> In article <H7WQh.5349$i93.1790@trnddc05>,

>>> David Morgan \(MAMS\) <findme@m-a-m-s.comC/Odm> wrote:

>>>> "whofan" <dgbrewer@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1175707383.996207.168680@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

>>>>> On Apr 4, 12:44 pm, "sandman" <sand...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>> Air Force Fighter Pilot and Instructor Comes Out for 9/11 Truth

>>>>>>

>>>>>> http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2007/020407_b_Pilot.htm

>>>>>> Monday April 2, 2007

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Every day, additional military and government people come out for 9/11

>>>>>> truth. The latest is Col. Guy S. Razer.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Col. Guy S. Razer, MS, U.S. Air Force (ret) - Retired U.S. Air Force

>>>>>> fighter pilot (F-111, F-15E, F-16, B-1, F-18, Mig-29, and Suu-22). Flew

>>>>>> combat missions over Iraq. Former instructor at the USAF Fighter Weapons

>>>>>> School and NATO's Tactical Leadership Program.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Col. Razer's statement:

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "After 4+ years of research since retirement in 2002, I am 100% convinced

>>>>>> that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned, organized, and

>>>>>> committed by treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest

>>>>>> levels of our government. It is now time to take our country back.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> The "collapse" of WTC Building 7 [570 feet tall, 47 stories, and not hit by

>>>>>> an airplane] shows beyond any doubt that the demolitions were pre-planned.

>>>>>> There is simply no way to demolish a 47-story building (on fire) over a

>>>>>> coffee break. It is also impossible to report the building's collapse before

>>>>>> it happened, as BBC News did, unless it was pre-planned.

>>>>> On 911, reports that WTC7 appeared as though it could collapse at any

>>>>> moment started airing at around noon or 1pm. Reporters knew it would

>>>>> collapse just by the perilous appearance of the building....it wasn't

>>>>> a matter of if it would collapse, it was when.

>>>> You too, are a shill idiot. Never before in history, nor since 911, has ANY

>>>> steel framed scyscraper EVER collapsed from fire and minor surface

>>>> damage.

>>>>

>>>> There is no way humanly possible, given that no precedent had EVER been

>>>> previously set (other than the twin towers earlier that day) in history, that

>>>> ANYONE could have predicted or anticipated such a collapse. You are

>>>> a lying fool.

>>>>

>>>

>>> When rangefinders pointed at WTC7 showed the builing shifting, NYFD

>>> knew it was comming down. By 5PM there were lots of people watching.

>>>

>> Rangefinders? LOL, but you imagine that rangefinders are normally used

>> in firefighting?

>>

>

> For a potential building collapse, yes.

>

 

Why would anyone imagine that a fire would cause WTC 7 to collapse?

>

>

>> Besides, that doesn't explain why the building took a perfect dive

>> into its own basement. Nothing does, except for the obvious...

>

>

> What else was it going to do? It was about as wide as it was high. It

> burned out internally.

>

 

That's crap. That's not how an uncontrolled structural failure happens

at all. Why do you lie so much?

> There was no "big hand" pushing it over.

>

 

Gravity acts like a big hand, unless every single support fails

simultaneously, or at least a sufficient number of strategically

selected ones do.

>

>

Guest Defendario
Posted

Al Dykes wrote:

> In article <57j114F2c5e1nU4@mid.individual.net>,

> Defendario <Defendario@netscape.com> wrote:

>> ORIGINAL POSTLIST RESTORED

>>

>> Al Dykes wrote:

>>> In article <R3WQh.18334$PL.2350@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net>,

>>> Ben Turner <BenTurner@notvalid.address> wrote:

>>>> Scotius wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> It was probably demolished because it's computers were being

>>>>> broken into. Do some real research. See if you can find out what

>>>>> satellites were over Manhattan at the time of the attacks. I did.

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>> There were scores of financial transfers going on when Building 7 went down.

>>>> The recovered hard drives are being reconstructed and they are beginning to

>>>> get a good handle on where the money was being transferred and by whom.

>>>

>>> Of course there were. The financial companies in WTC did that for a

>>> living. You are insunuating that there was crime involved.

>>>

>> Obviously.

>>

>>> How so?

>>>

>> Insurance fraud and insider trading. Billions of dollars were involved.

>>

>

> Are you saying that the occuants knew they were about to blow up and

> made trade for their advantage instead of running out of the building?

>

 

Why do you imagine that the trades were placed from inside the building,

you moron? Your spinning has disoriented you.

> Are you saying that thousands of people inside the building knew,

> and nobody outside the building did, beforehand.

>

 

There weren't thousands of people inside WTC 7 goofus. Why would anyone

believe that garbage? The fact that some people knew about the 9/11

disaster beforehand is common knowledge. The Dancing jooz in Joisey

certainly were in the right place at the right time, with the right gear.

 

My My! Such a co-inky-dink!

 

;D

> Giggle.

>

 

Your hysteria is noted, shill.

>

Guest Tankfixer
Posted

In article <qti0e.hu4.19.1@news.alt.net>, sandman@hotmail.com mumbled

> It is estimated that 10,000 Israelis are monitoring the Internet political

> groups, in variety of languages.

 

Some days it seems there are that many morons to be monitored.

>

> PLONK

 

Secure in your beliefs eh coward?

 

>

> "Server 13" <its@casual.com> wrote in message

> news:ev0mqt$icc$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu...

> >

> > "sandman" <sandman@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> > news:qtbee.73m.17.1@news.alt.net...

> >>

> >> "Al Dykes" <adykes@panix.com> wrote in message

> >> news:ev0ld1$n52$1@panix5.panix.com...

> >>> In article <qta62.ks0.19.1@news.alt.net>, sandman <sandman@hotmail.com>

> >>> wrote:

> >>>>

> >>>>Air Force Fighter Pilot and Instructor Comes Out for 9/11 Truth

> >>>>

> >>>>http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2007/020407_b_Pilot.htm

> >>>>Monday April 2, 2007

> >>>>

> >>>>Every day, additional military and government people come out for 9/11

> >>>>truth. The latest is Col. Guy S. Razer.

> >>>>

> >>>> Col. Guy S. Razer, MS, U.S. Air Force (ret) - Retired U.S. Air Force

> >>>>fighter pilot (F-111, F-15E, F-16, B-1, F-18, Mig-29, and Suu-22). Flew

> >>>>combat missions over Iraq. Former instructor at the USAF Fighter Weapons

> >>>>School and NATO's Tactical Leadership Program.

> >>>>

> >>>> Col. Razer's statement:

> >>>>

> >>>>"After 4+ years of research since retirement in 2002, I am 100%

> >>>>convinced

> >>>>that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned, organized, and

> >>>>committed by treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest

> >>>>levels of our government. It is now time to take our country back.

> >>>>

> >>>>The "collapse" of WTC Building 7 [570 feet tall, 47 stories, and not hit

> >>>>by

> >>>>an airplane] shows beyond any doubt that the demolitions were

> >>>>pre-planned.

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> "not hit by an airplane" LMAO.

> >>>

> >>> What is this flyboy's expertise in the demolition of large buldings

> >>> other than by bombing from xx thousands ft.

> >>>

> >>

> >> You're an Israeli.

> >

> > roflmao You'll need a lot more lipstick for this pig.

> >

>

>

>

 

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Usenetsaurus n. an early pedantic internet mammal, who survived on a

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cascading "threads."

Guest Tankfixer
Posted

In article <qu6qa.uu5.19.1@news.alt.net>, sandman@hotmail.com mumbled

 

> punishment for this treason should be along the lines of being lined up on

> the top of the Empire State Bldg, and having the choice of either jumping

> over the side or being attacked with blow torches. Anything less would be

> too humane. WE WILL NEVER FORGET WHO TOOK SIDES WITH THE PERPETRATORS AND

> TAUNTED US.

 

And would you like that bow torch stuffed in your mouth, ear or up your

ass ?

 

I'll give you that choice.

 

freaking moron

 

 

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Guest Tankfixer
Posted

In article <_8WQh.5351$i93.3877@trnddc05>, findme@m-a-m-s.comC/Odm

mumbled

>

> "whofan" <dgbrewer@gmail.com> wrote in message...

>

> > Just shows that even AF pilots can be kooks too.

>

>

> Is there ANY proof you can offer (besides your shill mouthpiece) to couter

> the facts of the matter?

 

Facts ?

or opinion ?

 

 

 

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diet of static text and

cascading "threads."

Guest Tankfixer
Posted

In article <PeWQh.5353$i93.2535@trnddc05>, findme@m-a-m-s.comC/Odm

mumbled

 

> > The owner of a demolition company estimated it would 30 or 40 trained men to

> > wire that building in one day

 

 

So who was it

 

 

 

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diet of static text and

cascading "threads."

Guest Vandar
Posted

Defendario wrote:

> Al Dykes wrote:

>

>> In article <57j114F2c5e1nU4@mid.individual.net>,

>> Defendario <Defendario@netscape.com> wrote:

>>

>>> ORIGINAL POSTLIST RESTORED

>>>

>>> Al Dykes wrote:

>>>

>>>> In article <R3WQh.18334$PL.2350@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net>,

>>>> Ben Turner <BenTurner@notvalid.address> wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Scotius wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> It was probably demolished because it's computers were being

>>>>>> broken into. Do some real research. See if you can find out what

>>>>>> satellites were over Manhattan at the time of the attacks. I did.

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> There were scores of financial transfers going on when Building 7

>>>>> went down. The recovered hard drives are being reconstructed and

>>>>> they are beginning to

>>>>> get a good handle on where the money was being transferred and by

>>>>> whom.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Of course there were. The financial companies in WTC did that for a

>>>> living. You are insunuating that there was crime involved.

>>>>

>>> Obviously.

>>>

>>>> How so?

>>>>

>>> Insurance fraud and insider trading. Billions of dollars were involved.

>>>

>>

>> Are you saying that the occuants knew they were about to blow up and

>> made trade for their advantage instead of running out of the building?

>>

>

> Why do you imagine that the trades were placed from inside the building,

> you moron? Your spinning has disoriented you.

>

>> Are you saying that thousands of people inside the building knew,

>> and nobody outside the building did, beforehand.

>>

>

> There weren't thousands of people inside WTC 7 goofus. Why would anyone

> believe that garbage? The fact that some people knew about the 9/11

> disaster beforehand is common knowledge. The Dancing jooz in Joisey

> certainly were in the right place at the right time, with the right gear.

 

They were only seen after the first plane had hit the building. Like

hundreds of other camera owners in sight of the towers, they started

filming after the first plane hit.

Guest David Morgan \(MAMS\)
Posted

"Tankfixer" <paul.carrier@us.army.m> wrote in message...

> And would you like that bow torch stuffed in your mouth, ear or up your

> ass ?

>

> I'll give you that choice.

 

 

You're not from America, are you?

Guest David Morgan \(MAMS\)
Posted

"Tankfixer" <paul.carrier@us.army.m> wrote in message news:Rd%Qh.134536$_73.79781@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...

> In article <_8WQh.5351$i93.3877@trnddc05>, findme@m-a-m-s.comC/Odm

> mumbled

> >

> > "whofan" <dgbrewer@gmail.com> wrote in message...

> >

> > > Just shows that even AF pilots can be kooks too.

> >

> >

> > Is there ANY proof you can offer (besides your shill mouthpiece) to couter

> > the facts of the matter?

> Facts ?

 

The world is still waiting for those.

> or opinion ?

 

Tank fixers can be kooks as well, if they buy anything other than an

implosion as applies to Building 7's so-called 'collapse'.

 

 

"WTC 7 - The Smoking Gun of 9/11 - updated"

<

 

 

The Science: Fires and Buildings:

911 PHYSICS http://www.physics911.org

 

WTC7 - THE HIDDEN STORY OF BUILDING: 7 http://www.wtc7.net

 

http://www.wtc7.net/videos.html http://www.911truthbristol.com/videos/films.html

http://www.911tv.org http://www.911revisited.com/

http://www.snowshoefilms.com/911coverup.html

 

Muslims suspend laws of physics:

http://www.public-action.com/911/jmcm/physics_1.html

http://www.serendipity.li/wot/mslp_ii.htm

 

http://www.911research.wtc7.net/cache/wtc/evidence/usgs_hotspots.html

http://www.wtc7.net/background.html

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/bbc_wtc7_videos.html

 

 

Casual commentary style reporting from March 28, 2006

"Eliminating the Impossible" By Sheila Samples

http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/print_friendly.php?p=opedne_sheila_s_060329_9_2f11____eliminating_.htm

Guest David Morgan \(MAMS\)
Posted

> Al Dykes spat forth in article <hcWQh.5352$i93.3709@trnddc05>

> >

> > Don't conflate the 27% support for Bush with any idea that 63% think

> > moonbeams knocked down the WTC towers.

 

Not a chance..... a moonbeam is a helluva' lot smarter than George Bush.

Guest David Morgan \(MAMS\)
Posted

"Defendario" <Defendario@netscape.com> wrote...

> Al Dykes wrote:

> >

> > Nobody with any expertise in construction or demolition agrees with

> > you.

> You don't really believe that bearded mystics in Afghanistan caused the

> entire American Air Defense system to stand down, do you?

 

He's a nut case. Dick Cheney confused, misdirected, and otherwise

stood down the military and civilian ATC on 911.

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