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Guest Ned Flanders
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"Al Dykes" <adykes@panix.com> wrote in message

news:ev4hlf$4pk$1@panix5.panix.com...

 

<snip>

> Read up on how it warped.

>

> The builing was only about twice as high as it is wide, there was no

> big hand to push it over. How else do you expect it to fall.

 

Like a previously stated, asymmetrically.

If it collapsed from warping [as you say] it should have

fallen that way. Instead it went from fully erect to pancake

in seconds!

And yet you believe that diesel fires can do that.

 

> Besides, there is no demolition expert that says that explosives

> explain the way WTC7 collapsed.

 

 

Are you suggesting that explosives couldn't cause

that type of collapse?

 

> WTC7 was cantileavered over a pre-existing power substation, Most

> discussions consider this a weakness in the frame that was compounded

> bythe protracted fire and made worse by teh damage from falling

> debris.

>

> See the pics here.

>

> http://wtc.nist.gov/progress_report_june04/appendixl.pdf

 

 

Sorry.

The "dot gov" in the url shows that they will only support

their version of events.

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't the building 'haunted' by

various secret service offices?

 

 

<snip bull $hit FEMA apologetics>

 

You still haven't answered my questions:

What barrow do you have to push?

Or, what are you in denial of?

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Guest David Morgan \(MAMS\)
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"Ned Flanders" <iknowitsonlyrocknroll@butilikeit> wrote in message...

 

Thanks for stepping in and taking up some slack.

 

DM

 

 

> SEE:

> http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2007/090207broughtdown.htm

> SEE:

> http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2007/100207heardbombs.htm

> SEE:

>

> SEE:

> http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2006/230806wtccomplex.htm

> SEE:

> http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2007/260207building7.htm

>

> Why are enemies of free speech attempting to have Rosie O'Donnell

> thrown off the air simply for discussing this issue?

Guest Al Dykes
Posted

In article <oakRh.7665$i93.525@trnddc05>,

David Morgan \(MAMS\) <findme@m-a-m-s.comC/Odm> wrote:

>

>"Tankfixer" <paul.carrier@us.army.m> wrote in message....

>

>> So far the proponents of the "implosion" theory can't explain why no one

>> saw any evidence of the building being prepared.

>

>

>No one on the ground saw any evidence before the first smart bomb

>hit Bagdad, either.... but it damned sure hit now didn't it?

>

>

>

>

 

 

Have we invented a secret implosion bomb?

 

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a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m

Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001

Guest Ned Flanders
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"Al Dykes" <adykes@panix.com> wrote in message

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<remove previous banter, like the way that steel way removed from WTC>

> >> Because they had laser rangefinders painting it and could tell it was

> >> moving ?

> >> That it was unstable and might come down ?

> >

> >Very unlikely.

> >But if you believe it that's ok.

> >

>

> What is "unlikely" ?

 

I find it very unlikely that rangefinders could predict that

the building would collapse, when the owner admitted it

was "pulled". Both cannot be true. You can make up you own

mind, but you haven't convinced me.

 

Ned

Guest David Morgan \(MAMS\)
Posted

"Tankfixer" <paul.carrier@us.army.m> wrote in message...

> > If the collapse of the building was an accident, why were ground zero

> > personnel, firefighters and police told to vacate the area surrounding

> > Building 7 in advance because the structure was to be brought down?

> Because they had laser rangefinders painting it and could tell it was

> moving ? That it was unstable and might come down ?

 

 

Did your Uncle Sam teach you the "paint" word, little FIXER man?

 

In 1970, I could put a 30.06 round somewhere in your chest from 500

yards - - you wouldn't hear my shot until long after you had hit the deck....

and I din't need no stinking little red dot to do it, either.

 

I'm sure there was plenty of time to bring out the 'laser-levels from the wood shop on 911.....

 

Sheeesh.....

 

 

What a weak shill you are.

Guest Al Dykes
Posted

In article <4615cdea$0$16555$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>,

Ned Flanders <iknowitsonlyrocknroll@butilikeit> wrote:

>

>"Al Dykes" <adykes@panix.com> wrote in message

>news:ev4hlf$4pk$1@panix5.panix.com...

>

><snip>

>

>> Read up on how it warped.

>>

>> The builing was only about twice as high as it is wide, there was no

>> big hand to push it over. How else do you expect it to fall.

>

>Like a previously stated, asymmetrically.

>If it collapsed from warping [as you say] it should have

>fallen that way. Instead it went from fully erect to pancake

>in seconds!

>And yet you believe that diesel fires can do that.

>

>

>> Besides, there is no demolition expert that says that explosives

>> explain the way WTC7 collapsed.

>

>

>Are you suggesting that explosives couldn't cause

>that type of collapse?

>

 

There is no expert that says that explosives caused WTC7 to collapse.

Find one that says different.

>

>> WTC7 was cantileavered over a pre-existing power substation, Most

>> discussions consider this a weakness in the frame that was compounded

>> bythe protracted fire and made worse by teh damage from falling

>> debris.

>>

>> See the pics here.

>>

>> http://wtc.nist.gov/progress_report_june04/appendixl.pdf

>

>

>Sorry.

>The "dot gov" in the url shows that they will only support

>their version of events.

 

Did you ever try to tell a tenured professor what to think?

 

Your parania is showing, and you are insulting the intellectual

honesty and patriotism of hundreds if not a few thousand people that

contributed to the NIST reports in some way.

 

And many thousands to a few million people, worldwide with expertise

look at these NIST reports from their own professional perspectives

and speak out if they see something.

 

They frequently do, but don't conflate professioanl disagreements with

the idea that any of them think that explosives/thermate/thermite is

needed to explain the events of 9/11.

 

There are millions of people, worldwide, with relevent expertise that

take an interest in the collapse of WTC1/2/7 for professional reasons.

They work for other governments, academia, and private industry. None

of them have said that explosives were needed to explian WTC1/2/7.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m

Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001

Guest Al Dykes
Posted

In article <4615cf32$0$16555$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>,

Ned Flanders <iknowitsonlyrocknroll@butilikeit> wrote:

>

>"Al Dykes" <adykes@panix.com> wrote in message

>news:ev4hoh$aul$1@panix5.panix.com...

>

><remove previous banter, like the way that steel way removed from WTC>

>

>> >> Because they had laser rangefinders painting it and could tell it was

>> >> moving ?

>> >> That it was unstable and might come down ?

>> >

>> >Very unlikely.

>> >But if you believe it that's ok.

>> >

>>

>> What is "unlikely" ?

>

> I find it very unlikely that rangefinders could predict that

>the building would collapse, when the owner admitted it

>was "pulled". Both cannot be true. You can make up you own

>mind, but you haven't convinced me.

>

 

But they did. The building was changing shape for hours.

 

The building was a total loss. Silverstien was going to get his

insurance money even if the fire just burned itself out

and left a shell standing,

 

 

 

 

 

 

--

a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m

Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001

Guest David Morgan \(MAMS\)
Posted

"Ned Flanders" <iknowitsonlyrocknroll@butilikeit>...

> > > SEE:

> > >

 

 

Some 50 of my links to 911 related videos on YouTube went dead this week.

All (from a huge variety of different sources) are flagged, "removed for violation

of terms of service".

 

I guess that Gates is taking up where Rumsfeld left off. I don't see why not....

After all, he was one of the original financiers of Tim Osman (also known as:

Osama bin Laden).

Guest David Morgan \(MAMS\)
Posted

"Tankfixer" <paul.carrier@us.army.m> wrote in message news:KqhRh.19957$tD2.7738@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...

> In article <aI1Rh.3432$WL4.624@trnddc04>, findme@m-a-m-s.comC/Odm

> mumbled

> >

> > "Tankfixer" <paul.carrier@us.army.m> wrote in message news:Je%Qh.134538$_73.131854@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...

> > > In article <PeWQh.5353$i93.2535@trnddc05>, findme@m-a-m-s.comC/Odm

> > > mumbled

> >

> > > > > The owner of a demolition company estimated it would 30 or 40 trained men to

> > > > > wire that building in one day

> >

> > > So who was it

> >

> > Yiou mean who blew Building 7, WTC?

>

> No you ditz.

> Who is the "explosives expert" you are citing above.

 

You've been quoting the wrong text to the wrong poster for 36 hours....

are you sober little fixer ??

Guest David Morgan \(MAMS\)
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"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:46155a64$0$21074$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...

> "David Morgan (MAMS)" <findme@m-a-m-s.comC/Odm> wrote in message

> news:H7aRh.5818$jZ3.5740@trnddc06...

> >

> > "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> > news:4614ca28$0$9961$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...

> >

> >> So?

> >

> > You must be a genuine, American, braindead, Couch-Potato.

>

> Can't answer my question, I see.

 

 

If you can't figure out that it matters, you don't deserve an answer...

but just for you, here we go again.... http://www.pilotsfor911truth.org/

 

 

 

 

Here... go occupy yourself... ;-)

 

 

http://www.911sharethetruth.com/

 

http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/index.html

 

http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/Resources.html

 

http://www.reopen911.org/

 

http://patriotsquestion911.com/

 

http://www.pilotsfor911truth.org

 

http://www.911weknow.com/linkspage.htm

 

http://question911.com/links.php

 

http://www.flight77.info/

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Researchers_questioning_the_official_account_of_9/11

 

http://www.answers.com/topic/researchers-questioning-the-official-account-of-9-11

 

http://www.WingTV.net

 

http://911truth.org

 

http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/Article/Interrogating_9-11_Five_Years_On.html

 

http://worldtradecentertruth.com/

 

 

911 FOR THE TRUTH: http://www.911forthetruth.com

 

911 RESEARCH: http://911research.wtc7.net

 

The Science: Fires and Buildings:

911 PHYSICS http://www.physics911.org

 

FIREFIGHTERS VS 911 COMMISSION

<http://www.911lies.org/fire_fighters_911_wtc_tapes.html>

 

Muslims suspend laws of physics:

http://www.public-action.com/911/jmcm/physics_1.html

http://www.serendipity.li/wot/mslp_ii.htm

 

 

 

Network in Britain and Ireland which agregates the efforts of all those campaigning

in Europe for 911 truth. http://www.nineeleven.co.uk

 

http://www.vestigialconscience.com/ Misc. archived conspiracy evidence

 

 

 

Project for a New American Century Planned Iraq War Long Ago....

Information Clearing House http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1665.htm

MSNBC Article: http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6814437

The Project's Web Site http://www.newamericancentury.org/

 

 

9-11 and the IMPOSSIBLE http://home.comcast.net/~skydrifter/exp.htm

 

 

The Implosion (so-called 'collapse') of WTC Building 7, coupled with the

absence of substantiating evidence of a 757 crashing into the Pentagon

are probably the biggest government screw-ups. More links to Bldg 7

and the Pentagon mixed in below.

http://www.911research.wtc7.net/cache/wtc/evidence/usgs_hotspots.html

http://www.wtc7.net/background.html

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/bbc_wtc7_videos.html

 

 

EXPLOSIVES??

http://69.28.73.17/thornarticles/powerdown.html

http://www.nynewsday.com/news/local/manhattan/wtc/ny-nyaler122362178sep12,0,6794009.story

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/Tower2Pulled.mp3

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/Tower1Pulled.mp3

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/911.wtc.ann.thompson.cars.wmv

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/911.wtc.secondary.explosions.jeffrey.beatty.wmv

http://www.lewrockwell.com/reynolds/reynolds12.html

http://www.arcticbeacon.com/articles/article/1518131/28031.htm

 

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8172271955308136871

 

 

The World Trade Center Demolition and the So-Called War on Terrorism

http://www.serendipity.li/wtc.htm

 

 

 

News and Resources on 9/11:

 

911 ONLINE RESEARCH http://www.cooperativeresearch.org

 

911 REVIEW http://www.911review.org (available in multiple languages)

 

911 TRUTH Los Angeles http://www.911truthla.us

 

9/11 VISIBILITY PROJECT National Campaign Center http://www.septembereleventh.org

 

American Free Press: http://www.americanfreepress.net/

 

KILLTOWN 911 REVIEW http://killtown.911review.org

 

Karl W. B. Schwarz - Online Journal - Great Source on Financial Basis for 9/11

http://onlinejournal.com/

 

PORTLAND INDEPENDENT MEDIA CENTER http://portland.indymedia.org

 

UNANSWERED QUESTIONS http://www.unansweredquestions.org

 

INTERNATIONAL CITIZEN'S INQUIRY INTO 9/11 http://www.911inquiry.org

 

PETITION OF SOLIDARITY http://justicefor911.org

 

"WHAT FAILED" -On Plague Puppy:

http://www.plaguepuppy.net/public_html/Confronting%20the%20Evidence/what_failed_and_how.htm

 

Conspiracy News Net http://www.conspiracynewsnet.com/

 

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com

 

http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/

 

Hijacking Catastophe - http://207.44.245.159/article6895.htm

 

Black Boxes coverup http://globalresearch.ca/articles/BUN410B.html

 

 

Failure to defend America: (more of Paul Thompson's Timeline)

http://www.billstclair.com/911timeline/main/essayairdefense.html

http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0306/S00031.htm

 

 

9-11 Motivation

http://www.antiwar.com/orig/utley7.html

 

 

911: Coincidence Theory

The Coincidence Theorist's Guide to 9/11

http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/archive/scoop/stories/60/5a/200408231012.3bb72110.html

 

 

Dov Zakheim, Pentagon Comptroller, ran drone plane company.

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?noframes;read=53486

 

 

Craig Hill's New Video: "Treason, Inc."

Craig Hill documents the lies and actions of the Bush adminstration that amount to treason.

Order here: http://www.hillsenatenow.org/

 

 

 

Some Alternative News Sites:

 

CITIZENS FOR LEGIT GOVERNMENT http://legitgov.org

 

MICHAEL RUPPERT'S http://www.fromthewilderness.com

 

MARK CRISPIN MILLER'S http://markcrispinmiller.blogspot.com/

 

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/

http://www.alternet.org/

http://www.yellowtimes.org/

http://www.indymedia.org/en/index.shtml

http://www.antiwar.com

http://www.iraqwar.org/

http://www.tvnewslies.org/

http://www.prisonPlanet.com

http://www.Infowars.com

http://www.libertyforum.org

 

The Emperors New Clothes http://www.tenc.net/

 

 

 

Some Conspiracy Theory Sites:

 

911 CITIZEN'S WATCH: http://www.911citizenswatch.org

911 STRIKE http://www.911-strike.com

911 SKEPTICS UNITE http://911skeptics.blogspot.com

911 SHARE THE TRUTH http://www.911sharethetruth.com

PROPOSITION 911 http://www.proposition911.org

SCOTT LEDGER'S TRUTH SITE: http://www.scottledger.com

 

 

Scientific Evidence that Official 9/11 Story is a Lie http://www.ditrianum.org/Artikelen/artikel33en.htm

 

 

Videos and Media:

 

911 BUSTERS http://www.911busters.com

http://www.911busters.com/911-Commission.html

 

DOWNLOAD VIDEOS HERE: http://question911.com/links.php

 

SNOWSHOE DOCUMENTARY FILMS http://www.snowshoefilms.com/911coverup.html

 

Watch the movie 'September 11 Revisited' online at http://www.twf.org -- click on

link in left hand column; or see: http://www.911revisited.com/

 

911 TRUTH RADIO http://www.911truthradio.com

 

VIDEO ANALYSIS BY ALEX JONES:

WTC7 - THE HIDDEN STORY OF BUILDING: 7 http://www.wtc7.net

 

IN PLANE SITE: http://www.911inplanesite.com

 

LOOSE CHANGE: http://www.loosechange911.com/

 

http://www.wtc7.net/videos.html

http://www.911busters.com

http://www.libertybound.com

http://www.infowars.com/videos.html#MOT

http://www.infowars.com/videos.html

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3995.htm

http://www.globalresearch.ca/globaloutlook/coverup.html

http://www.innworldreport.net

http://www.911truthbristol.com/videos/films.html

http://www.911tv.org

 

 

THE POWER OF NIGHTMARES

Part One - 59 Minutes

<http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8217638438978899371>

Part Two - 59 Minutes

<http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2839463332690200955>

Part Three - 59 Minutes

<http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3649090417189127240>

 

"EagarBeavers and Faulty Towers"

http://www.plaguepuppy.net/public_html/Confronting%20the%20Evidence/what_failed_and_how.htm

 

Webster Tarpley audio interview (low bit rate... easy to stream on dial-up)

http://www.cloakanddagger.de/shows/webcast/_Tarpley_/CLOAK_TARPLEYNOV14.mp3

 

 

 

 

9/11 VISIBILITY PROJECT National Campaign Center:

http://www.septembereleventh.org

 

NEW YORK 9/11 Truth: http://www.summeroftruth.org

or http://www.ny911truth.org

 

Hot Politics - By Owen Whitman

Libertarian website with many 9/11 and Iraq War articles. http://www.hotpolitics.com

 

 

 

 

PENTAGON

Until the wall collapsed, the hole in the Pentagon was a 17 ft circle (approximately)

which penetrated 6 steel-reinforced concrete walls... directly into the newly beefed-up

(structurally remodeled) area which was temporarily housing the NIS, who were then

investigating the $2.3 TRILLION dollars in MISSING Pentagon funds. An issue, that

like Enron, was immediately dropped from the news and swept under the carpet.

Any public evidence of bodies or aircraft wreckage from the Pentagon is virtually

non-existant.

http://judicial-inc.biz/pentagon_flight.htm

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/flight77.htm

http://0911.site.voila.fr/

http://0911.site.voila.fr/index11.htm

http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/pentagone/erreurs_en.htm

http://www.loosechange911.com/pentagon.htm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1907955.stm

http://www.thepowerhour.com/911_analysis/pentagon-911.htm

http://www.serendipity.li/wtc3.htm

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/pentagon.html

http://judicial-inc.biz/Dov_Zakheim_Fl_77.htm

http://www.amics21.com/911/pentagon.html

http://www.wanttoknow.info/911information

http://www.PentagonResearch.com

 

 

Thierry Meyssan, Original French Author Exposing the possible Pentagon

Hoax http://www.pentagate.info/sommaire-en.html -- his website recently

has been closed, but early news (April, 2002) of this Frenchman's book on

the 'alleged' Pentagon crash is here...

http://www.nationalreview.com/robbins/robbins040902.asp

(Now you know why we had "freedom fries" for so long)

 

 

911 SEISMIC DATA:

Seismic data was, of course, COMPLETELY OMITTED from both NIST and FEMA reports.

http://www.rense.com/general67/forensic.htm

http://uscrisis.lege.net/911/

http://anderson.ath.cx:8000/911/hj07.html

<2002> http://www.rense.com/general28/ioff.htm

http://911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/guardian2/wtc/seismic/WTC_LDEO_KIM.htm

http://911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/guardian2/wtc/seismic/WTC_PENT_KIM.htm

http://www.mgs.md.gov/esic/publications/download/911pentagon.pdf

 

 

More on flight 93

http://killtown.911review.org/htb2.html

http://letsroll911.org/phpwebsite/index.php?module=announce&ANN_user_op=view&ANN_id=34

 

 

THE 911 OSAMA CONFESSION TAPE...

Have you asked yourself the same question regarding the

original Osama / 911 'confession' tape? A small child

could determine that this was completely faked.

http://www.viewzone.com/osama.html

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osamatape.html

http://www.mujca.com/osama.htm

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/farenheit911michaelmoore.html

http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/realityzone/UFNOsamatapefake.htm

http://tim.2wgroup.com/blog/archives/001006.html

http://www.freedomisforeverybody.org/Osama%20bin%20CIA%20Agent.php?id=1521491

http://www.aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_ID=11633

http://www.ilaam.net/Sept11/TapeIsFraud.html

 

 

Current Osama Info:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=SCH20060601&articleId=2555

http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=15490

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=4592

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/osamafakedtape30may06.shtml

http://www.rebelwarez.com/rebelblog/2006/09/08/bin-laden-tape-betrays-phony-hijacker-contradiction/

http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/PressRelease28May2006.html

http://www.williambowles.info/spysrus/osama_fake.html

http://www.ilaam.net/Sept11/TapeIsFraud.html

http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=76&contentid=413&page=2

 

ON bin LADEN...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8853000/site/newsweek/

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/030804fa_fact

http://www.usatoday.com/news/sept11/2002/02/05/usat-binladen-frustration.htm

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7932.shtml

http://www.rinf.com/columnists/news/cia-operative-says-bush-military-leaders-let-bin-laden-escape

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/03/24/pentagon.binladen/index.html

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/FJ26Ag01.html

http://www.infowars.com/articles/iraq/let_laden_escape.htm

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A62618-2002Apr16&notFound=true

http://www.oilempire.us/bushbinladen.html

 

 

ON ZARQARI ...

http://www.taylormarsh.com/archives_view.php?id=2301

http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/us-allowed-zarqawi-to-escape/2006/04/30/1146335608444.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/trey-ellis/who-will-finally-explain-_b_7585.html

http://mediamatters.org/items/200410270007

http://www.democrats.com/zarqawi

http://www.juancole.com/2005/12/one-that-got-away-cnn-is-reporting.html

 

 

Where does GWB fit in? http://www.bushdid911.org

 

 

WERE THE BUSH AND BinLADEN FAMILIES IN BUSINESS TOGETHER?

http://www.oilempire.us/bush-binladen.html

http://www.bushwatch.com/bushmoney.htm

http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/conspiracytheories/saudi.html

http://www.hereinreality.com/carlyle.html

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/articleshow?art_id=1030259305

http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=971322003

http://tvnewslies.org/html/bin_laden_ties.html

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/09_18_01_bushbin.html

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/10_09_01_carlyle.html

http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/

http://www.judicialwatch.org/1685.shtml

http://www.rense.com/general14/bushsformer.htm

http://www.prisonplanet.com/bin_laden_family_link_to_bush.html

http://www.inthesetimes.com/issue/25/25/feature3.shtml

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/WAL110A.html

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?011112fa_FACT3

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3308.htm

http://www.thedubyareport.com/bushbin.html

http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0111-01.htm

http://martiallaw911.info/archive/0-26-39.htm

http://dir.salon.com/story/books/feature/2004/03/11/unger_1/index.html

 

 

OLDER BUSH'S - doing business with Germany in WW-II

Dial-up: http://70.84.33.210/%7Einfomedi/video/previews/150305martialpreview_mdm.wmv

DSL: http://70.84.33.210/%7Einfomedi/video/previews/150305martialpreview.wmv

 

 

 

The Presidential "Signing Statement" dictatorship...

 

http://www.abanet.org/media/releases/news072406.html

http://www.fff.org/comment/com0610c.asp

http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20060113.html

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/signingstatements.php

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/060721/21signing.htm

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/07/25/dobbs.july26/index.html

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1149361,00.htm

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/04/30/bush_challenges_hundreds_of_laws/

http://www.coherentbabble.com/signingstatements/TOCindex.htm

http://www.fff.org/comment/com0610c.asp

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/27/AR2006062700145.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,1828114,00.html?gusrc=rss

http://www.antiwar.com/ips/fisher.php?articleid=9222

http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2007/02/13/the-signing-statement-dictatorship/

 

And over one million more....

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=George+Bush%2C+signing+statements&btnG=Google+Search

 

 

 

"National Security Letters" (gag orders) silence patriots, courts, media & business

as they pry into America's private side.

 

http://www.techlawjournal.com/topstories/2005/20050824a.asp

http://writ.news.findlaw.com/ramasastry/20060109.html

http://www.aclu.org/safefree/nationalsecurityletters/index.html

http://www.aclu.org/safefree/patriot/17458res20040929.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/05/AR2005110501366.html

http://reclaimdemocracy.org/articles_2004/national_security_letters.html

http://www.sptimes.com/2005/11/13/Columns/National_security_let.shtml

http://leahy.senate.gov/press/200512/120805.html

 

And over 67 Million more....

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=National+security+letter&btnG=Google+Search

 

 

 

 

THE BOGUS FEMA AND NIST INVESTIGATIONS...

This is the largest cover-up in American history, from a panel comprised mostly

of Bush cabinet cronies with too many conflicting interests to be taken seriously.

Who themselves, complain that there was too little money, too little time, and too

much "pressure" to complete the report with enough accuracy. It's based on

assumptions and contains overtly false information, and failed to answer the

questions which when finally raised legally, forced the government to appoint

the team... but long after the country was at was and the 911 evidence removed.

http://vancouver.indymedia.org/?q=node/1634

http://911research.wtc7.net/resources/books/index.html

http://www.septembereleventh.org/

http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2006/911-WTC-NIST-Lies30mar06.htm

http://www.911review.com/coverup/nist.html

http://visibility911.libsyn.com/

http://www.answers.com/topic/researchers-questioning-the-official-account-of-9-11

http://www.organicconsumers.org/politics/911012306.cfm

http://www.justicefor911.org/Contents_and_Evidence_111904.php

http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/print_friendly.php?p=opedne_sheila_s_060329_9_2f11____eliminating_.htm

http://www.911citizenswatch.org/print.php?sid=895

http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041221155307646

http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20060405143535564

http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/Article/Interrogating_9-11_Five_Years_On.html

http://forum.physorg.com/index.php?showtopic=4418&st=2040

http://forum.physorg.com/index.php?showtopic=4418&st=2010

http://worldtradecentertruth.com/Article_1_Ryan5.pdf#search=%22NIST%20report%20on%20911%2C%20Omissions%20and%20distortions%22

http://www.vtcommons.org/node/190

http://www.tpmcafe.com/node/28070

http://911smokingguns.com/

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=21137

 

 

 

 

VOTE FRAUD

Vote Fraud MSNBC Video 2004 - http://www.vestigialconscience.com/5.countdown_56k.mov

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_U.S._presidential_election_controversy_and_irregularities

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_United_States_presidential_election_controversy%2C_exit_polls

http://nightweed.com/usavotefacts.html

http://www.blackboxvoting.org

http://www.alternet.org/bloggers/evan/40755/

http://itpolicy.princeton.edu/voting/summary.html

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/2004votefraud.html

http://vote2004.eriposte.com/

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2004/031104votefraud.htm

http://www.votersunite.org/electionproblems.asp

http://www.ideamouth.com/voterfraud.htm

http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/2004_vote_fraud.html

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election_stolen

http://www.projectcensored.org/newsflash/voter_fraud.html

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0411/S00124.htm

http://www.legitgov.org/coup_2004.html

http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/122404X.shtml

http://www.thewe.cc/contents/more/archive/united_states_voting_procedures.html

http://www.seminolechronicle.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2004/12/16/41c2fdb042ea1

Video / Bev Harris - http://prisonplanet.tv/audio/041104harris.htm

http://www.counterpunch.org/swanson11082004.html

http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1118-22.htm

http://www.tvnewslies.org/html/election_2004.html

http://www.epionline.org/news_detail.cfm?rid=84

http://www.truthinvoting.org/

http://blackvoternetwork.com/votefraud.htm

http://www.flcv.com/fraudpat.html

http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/110504Chin/110504chin.html

 

More links at http://www.squadron13.com/JackDresser/electionfraud.htm

And at bottom... http://www.pamrotella.com/polhist/elections2004.html

 

"We cannot accept this result as legitimate, because it does not meet

international standards. We call for a full review of the conduct of the

election and the tallying." --Colin Powell on the 2004 election

 

 

Outraged republican moderates: http://www.outragedmoderates.org/Page4.html

 

 

Who in current government served their nation in combat?

http://www.awolbush.com/

http://www.awolbush.com/cheney.html

http://www.awolbush.com/whoserved.html

http://www.democrats.com/display.cfm?id=165

http://www.rackjite.com/chawks.htm

http://www.houstonpress.com/issues/1999-01-07/columns2.html/1/index.html

 

 

 

MEDIA CONTROL

5 companies (well, 6 really) control ALL of the media you see or hear

in the United States. Each of these makes so much money that

there is little chance of them hurting. You can view the information

on the controlling interests below. These are tough times in America

and many things about media (like conglomerates and control) seriously

need to be fixed, so that this country isn't jointly spoon fed the lies which

could lead to it's demise.

 

http://www.nowfoundation.org/issues/communications/tv/mediacontrol.html

 

 

 

ILLUMINATI... (Also referred to as: "The New World Order")

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati

http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/illuminatiagendabestoverviewyet8jun02.shtml

http://www.rotten.com/library/conspiracy/illuminati/

http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Illuminati.htm

http://www.geocities.com/francis_uy/halliburton.html

http://skepdic.com/illuminati.html

http://www.mysteries-megasite.com/main/bigsearch/luminati.html

http://poweredbychrist.homestead.com/files/bush/rituals.htm

'Illuminati' has been a part of world history for centuries and is

highly threatening to a peaceful humanity.

 

 

 

Casual commentary style reporting from March 28, 2006

"Eliminating the Impossible" By Sheila Samples

http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/print_friendly.php?p=opedne_sheila_s_060329_9_2f11____eliminating_.htm

Guest Al Dykes
Posted

In article <4615cdea$0$16555$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>,

Ned Flanders <iknowitsonlyrocknroll@butilikeit> wrote:

>

>"Al Dykes" <adykes@panix.com> wrote in message

>news:ev4hlf$4pk$1@panix5.panix.com...

>

><snip>

>

>> Read up on how it warped.

>>

>> The builing was only about twice as high as it is wide, there was no

>> big hand to push it over. How else do you expect it to fall.

>

>Like a previously stated, asymmetrically.

>If it collapsed from warping [as you say] it should have

>fallen that way. Instead it went from fully erect to pancake

>in seconds!

>And yet you believe that diesel fires can do that.

>

>

 

You insist on making the same point, over and over

by stampoing your feet and saying Must! Must! Must!

and showing no signs if attempting to understand

what same-day news reports and pictures say.

 

 

http://wtc.nist.gov/progress_report_june04/appendixl.pdf

 

--

a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m

Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001

Guest Vandar
Posted

Ned Flanders wrote:

> Silverstein claimed on TV that, "a decision was made to ~pull~ the

> building".

 

That's a lie.

Guest Ned Flanders
Posted

"Al Dykes" <adykes@panix.com> wrote in message

news:ev4jvi$933$1@panix5.panix.com...

 

<remove previous>

> You insist on making the same point, over and over

> by stampoing your feet and saying Must! Must! Must!

> and showing no signs if attempting to understand

> what same-day news reports and pictures say.

 

Wrong.

I have not said "Must! Must! Must!.

I have challenged your beliefs, and you are reacting not me.

 

> http://wtc.nist.gov/progress_report_june04/appendixl.pdf

 

Their's that 'dot gov' thing again... No sale.

Are you employed by the govt. to propagate their lies?

Or do you do it for another reason?

Guest Ned Flanders
Posted

"Al Dykes" <adykes@panix.com> wrote in message

news:ev4jii$7hj$1@panix5.panix.com...

 

<snip>

> Did you ever try to tell a tenured professor what to think?

>

> Your parania is showing, and you are insulting the intellectual

> honesty and patriotism of hundreds if not a few thousand people that

> contributed to the NIST reports in some way.

>

> And many thousands to a few million people, worldwide with expertise

> look at these NIST reports from their own professional perspectives

> and speak out if they see something.

>

> They frequently do, but don't conflate professioanl disagreements with

> the idea that any of them think that explosives/thermate/thermite is

> needed to explain the events of 9/11.

>

> There are millions of people, worldwide, with relevent expertise that

> take an interest in the collapse of WTC1/2/7 for professional reasons.

> They work for other governments, academia, and private industry. None

> of them have said that explosives were needed to explian WTC1/2/7.

 

And yet the firemen who were eye witnesses saw and

heard explosions. And the guy/company who supplied the

structural steel for the WTC got fired when he claimed that

there was no way that fires caused the collapse.

 

And the same government who claim WMD in Iraq said it

just fell down from fire, and you believe them. Good luck

with your beliefs.

 

 

You still haven't answered my questions:

What barrow do you have to push?

Or, what are you in denial of?

Guest Ned Flanders
Posted

"Vandar" <vandar69@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:sEkRh.6169$B25.3892@news01.roc.ny...

> Ned Flanders wrote:

>

> > Silverstein claimed on TV that, "a decision was made to ~pull~ the

> > building".

>

> That's a lie.

 

Why not spend a few minutes watching the footage?

You can see Larry Silverstien himself say it. Get a copy

of 'Martial Law' by Alex Jones and fastforward the first

53 minutes, then the clip from PBS news appears.

Watch it for yourself.

Guest Ned Flanders
Posted

"Al Dykes" <adykes@panix.com> wrote in message

news:ev4jmf$a2i$1@panix5.panix.com...

 

<snip>

> But they did. The building was changing shape for hours.

 

No it wasn't.

It looked very square all the way to the ground.

 

Now I'm supposed to believe it died like the terminator

in Terminator 2. You can believe what you like, but you

haven't convinced me.

Guest Ned Flanders
Posted

"David Morgan (MAMS)" <findme@m-a-m-s.comC/Odm> wrote in message

news:jmkRh.7669$i93.130@trnddc05...

 

> Some 50 of my links to 911 related videos on YouTube went dead this week.

> All (from a huge variety of different sources) are flagged, "removed for

violation

> of terms of service".

>

> I guess that Gates is taking up where Rumsfeld left off. I don't see why

not....

> After all, he was one of the original financiers of Tim Osman (also known

as:

> Osama bin Laden).

 

Why am I not surprised.

Gates has been in bed with the NSA for many years.

Guest Ned Flanders
Posted

"David Morgan (MAMS)" <findme@m-a-m-s.comC/Odm> wrote in message

news:ObkRh.7666$i93.4319@trnddc05...

>

> "Ned Flanders" <iknowitsonlyrocknroll@butilikeit> wrote in message...

>

> Thanks for stepping in and taking up some slack.

 

Thank you David for doing such a fine job yourself.

Guest David Morgan \(MAMS\)
Posted

"Ned Flanders" <iknowitsonlyrocknroll@butilikeit> wrote in message news:4615dddc$0$16553$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

> "David Morgan (MAMS)" <findme@m-a-m-s.comC/Odm> wrote in message

> news:jmkRh.7669$i93.130@trnddc05...

> > Some 50 of my links to 911 related videos on YouTube went dead this week.

> > All (from a huge variety of different sources) are flagged, "removed for

> > violation of terms of service".

> >

> > I guess that Gates is taking up where Rumsfeld left off. I don't see why not....

> > After all, he was one of the original financiers of Tim Osman (also known

> > as:Osama bin Laden).

> Why am I not surprised.

> Gates has been in bed with the NSA for many years.

 

Who better to oversee the University that houses the "Bush Presidential

Library"? He should have stayed there in pleasant retirement from his

previous government service. I honestly don't think he's as 'dingy' as

Rummy... but he's got a lot more experience in America's 'colorful' and

historic dealings with the middle east.

 

____________________________________

 

Remember this one?

 

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article12060.htm

Guest David Morgan \(MAMS\)
Posted

"Ned Flanders" <iknowitsonlyrocknroll@butilikeit> wrote in message news:4615dc8e$0$9775$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

>

> "Vandar" <vandar69@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> news:sEkRh.6169$B25.3892@news01.roc.ny...

> > Ned Flanders wrote:

> >

> > > Silverstein claimed on TV that, "a decision was made to ~pull~ the

> > > building".

> > That's a lie.

 

Here are the relevant portions, isolated for convenience:

 

Read it quoted : http://www.vestigialconscience.com/PullIt.html

Hear it said : http://www.vestigialconscience.com/PullIt.mp3

Watch him say it : http://www.vestigialconscience.com/pullit.mpg

Hear the key word again : http://www.vestigialconscience.com/PullIt2.mp3

 

> Why not spend a few minutes watching the footage?

> You can see Larry Silverstien himself say it. Get a copy

> of 'Martial Law' by Alex Jones and fastforward the first

> 53 minutes, then the clip from PBS news appears.

> Watch it for yourself.

 

You're asking the wrong person.

 

Al Dykes is a typical bozo.... Vandar is a shill name, known

for posting pundit disinformation on alt.conspiracy at any

given time spanning any 24-hour period. FWIW, I don't

see either of these clowns any longer and haven't for well

over a year. I have no idea what the latter is doing on any

of these groups unless he's scouting for me... I post with

my real name. The former is a fundamentalist Christian,

which at least gives him the excuse of being brainwashed.

 

Avoid Vandar like the plague.

Guest Ned Flanders
Posted

"David Morgan (MAMS)" <findme@m-a-m-s.comC/Odm> wrote in message

news:kslRh.5895$F%1.4149@trnddc01...

 

<slash>

 

> Who better to oversee the University that houses the "Bush Presidential

> Library"? He should have stayed there in pleasant retirement from his

> previous government service. I honestly don't think he's as 'dingy' as

> Rummy... but he's got a lot more experience in America's 'colorful' and

> historic dealings with the middle east.

>

> ____________________________________

>

> Remember this one?

>

> http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article12060.htm

 

Bush and his handlers hate free speech. It shines a light

into their darkness, like bugs under a heavy rock they cant

stand such light. They want to stop it, least it expose their

evil.

Guest Ned Flanders
Posted

"David Morgan (MAMS)" <findme@m-a-m-s.comC/Odm> wrote in message

news:kslRh.5895$F%1.4149@trnddc01...

 

<snip>

> Remember this one?

>

> http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article12060.htm

 

 

Here's a quote from the above article:

 

"The War Department is planning to insert itself into every area of the

Internet from blogs to chat rooms, from leftist web sites to editorial

commentary. Their rapid response team will be on hair-trigger alert to

dispute any tidbit of information that challenges the official storyline."

 

I wonder if the shills on this thread are paid by the government...?

Guest Roger
Posted

"David Morgan (MAMS)" <findme@m-a-m-s.comC/Odm> wrote in message

news:AqkRh.7671$i93.568@trnddc05...

>

> "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:46155a64$0$21074$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...

>> "David Morgan (MAMS)" <findme@m-a-m-s.comC/Odm> wrote in message

>> news:H7aRh.5818$jZ3.5740@trnddc06...

>> >

>> > "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>> > news:4614ca28$0$9961$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...

>> >

>> >> So?

>> >

>> > You must be a genuine, American, braindead, Couch-Potato.

>>

>> Can't answer my question, I see.

>

>

> If you can't figure out that it matters, you don't deserve an answer...

> but just for you, here we go again.... http://www.pilotsfor911truth.org/

>

>

>

>

> Here... go occupy yourself... ;-)

 

My question was asking for a reason for the significance of one person's

opinion.

 

You still haven't answered my question.

 

Seems you didn't even understand it.

 

>

>

> http://www.911sharethetruth.com/

>

> http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/index.html

>

> http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/Resources.html

>

> http://www.reopen911.org/

>

> http://patriotsquestion911.com/

>

> http://www.pilotsfor911truth.org

>

> http://www.911weknow.com/linkspage.htm

>

> http://question911.com/links.php

>

> http://www.flight77.info/

>

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Researchers_questioning_the_official_account_of_9/11

>

> http://www.answers.com/topic/researchers-questioning-the-official-account-of-9-11

>

> http://www.WingTV.net

>

> http://911truth.org

>

> http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/Article/Interrogating_9-11_Five_Years_On.html

>

> http://worldtradecentertruth.com/

>

>

> 911 FOR THE TRUTH: http://www.911forthetruth.com

>

> 911 RESEARCH: http://911research.wtc7.net

>

> The Science: Fires and Buildings:

> 911 PHYSICS http://www.physics911.org

>

> FIREFIGHTERS VS 911 COMMISSION

> <http://www.911lies.org/fire_fighters_911_wtc_tapes.html>

>

> Muslims suspend laws of physics:

> http://www.public-action.com/911/jmcm/physics_1.html

> http://www.serendipity.li/wot/mslp_ii.htm

>

>

>

> Network in Britain and Ireland which agregates the efforts of all those

> campaigning

> in Europe for 911 truth. http://www.nineeleven.co.uk

>

> http://www.vestigialconscience.com/ Misc. archived conspiracy evidence

>

>

>

> Project for a New American Century Planned Iraq War Long Ago....

> Information Clearing House

> http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1665.htm

> MSNBC Article: http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6814437

> The Project's Web Site http://www.newamericancentury.org/

>

>

> 9-11 and the IMPOSSIBLE http://home.comcast.net/~skydrifter/exp.htm

>

>

> The Implosion (so-called 'collapse') of WTC Building 7, coupled with the

> absence of substantiating evidence of a 757 crashing into the Pentagon

> are probably the biggest government screw-ups. More links to Bldg 7

> and the Pentagon mixed in below.

> http://www.911research.wtc7.net/cache/wtc/evidence/usgs_hotspots.html

> http://www.wtc7.net/background.html

> http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/bbc_wtc7_videos.html

>

>

> EXPLOSIVES??

> http://69.28.73.17/thornarticles/powerdown.html

> http://www.nynewsday.com/news/local/manhattan/wtc/ny-nyaler122362178sep12,0,6794009.story

> http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/Tower2Pulled.mp3

> http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/Tower1Pulled.mp3

> http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/911.wtc.ann.thompson.cars.wmv

> http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/911.wtc.secondary.explosions.jeffrey.beatty.wmv

> http://www.lewrockwell.com/reynolds/reynolds12.html

> http://www.arcticbeacon.com/articles/article/1518131/28031.htm

>

> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8172271955308136871

>

>

> The World Trade Center Demolition and the So-Called War on Terrorism

> http://www.serendipity.li/wtc.htm

>

>

>

> News and Resources on 9/11:

>

> 911 ONLINE RESEARCH http://www.cooperativeresearch.org

>

> 911 REVIEW http://www.911review.org (available in multiple languages)

>

> 911 TRUTH Los Angeles http://www.911truthla.us

>

> 9/11 VISIBILITY PROJECT National Campaign Center

> http://www.septembereleventh.org

>

> American Free Press: http://www.americanfreepress.net/

>

> KILLTOWN 911 REVIEW http://killtown.911review.org

>

> Karl W. B. Schwarz - Online Journal - Great Source on Financial Basis for

> 9/11

> http://onlinejournal.com/

>

> PORTLAND INDEPENDENT MEDIA CENTER http://portland.indymedia.org

>

> UNANSWERED QUESTIONS http://www.unansweredquestions.org

>

> INTERNATIONAL CITIZEN'S INQUIRY INTO 9/11 http://www.911inquiry.org

>

> PETITION OF SOLIDARITY http://justicefor911.org

>

> "WHAT FAILED" -On Plague Puppy:

> http://www.plaguepuppy.net/public_html/Confronting%20the%20Evidence/what_failed_and_how.htm

>

> Conspiracy News Net http://www.conspiracynewsnet.com/

>

> http://www.whatreallyhappened.com

>

> http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/

>

> Hijacking Catastophe - http://207.44.245.159/article6895.htm

>

> Black Boxes coverup http://globalresearch.ca/articles/BUN410B.html

>

>

> Failure to defend America: (more of Paul Thompson's Timeline)

> http://www.billstclair.com/911timeline/main/essayairdefense.html

> http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0306/S00031.htm

>

>

> 9-11 Motivation

> http://www.antiwar.com/orig/utley7.html

>

>

> 911: Coincidence Theory

> The Coincidence Theorist's Guide to 9/11

> http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/archive/scoop/stories/60/5a/200408231012.3bb72110.html

>

>

> Dov Zakheim, Pentagon Comptroller, ran drone plane company.

> http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?noframes;read=53486

>

>

> Craig Hill's New Video: "Treason, Inc."

> Craig Hill documents the lies and actions of the Bush adminstration that

> amount to treason.

> Order here: http://www.hillsenatenow.org/

>

>

>

> Some Alternative News Sites:

>

> CITIZENS FOR LEGIT GOVERNMENT http://legitgov.org

>

> MICHAEL RUPPERT'S http://www.fromthewilderness.com

>

> MARK CRISPIN MILLER'S http://markcrispinmiller.blogspot.com/

>

> http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/

> http://www.alternet.org/

> http://www.yellowtimes.org/

> http://www.indymedia.org/en/index.shtml

> http://www.antiwar.com

> http://www.iraqwar.org/

> http://www.tvnewslies.org/

> http://www.prisonPlanet.com

> http://www.Infowars.com

> http://www.libertyforum.org

>

> The Emperors New Clothes http://www.tenc.net/

>

>

>

> Some Conspiracy Theory Sites:

>

> 911 CITIZEN'S WATCH: http://www.911citizenswatch.org

> 911 STRIKE http://www.911-strike.com

> 911 SKEPTICS UNITE http://911skeptics.blogspot.com

> 911 SHARE THE TRUTH http://www.911sharethetruth.com

> PROPOSITION 911 http://www.proposition911.org

> SCOTT LEDGER'S TRUTH SITE: http://www.scottledger.com

>

>

> Scientific Evidence that Official 9/11 Story is a Lie

> http://www.ditrianum.org/Artikelen/artikel33en.htm

>

>

> Videos and Media:

>

> 911 BUSTERS http://www.911busters.com

> http://www.911busters.com/911-Commission.html

>

> DOWNLOAD VIDEOS HERE: http://question911.com/links.php

>

> SNOWSHOE DOCUMENTARY FILMS http://www.snowshoefilms.com/911coverup.html

>

> Watch the movie 'September 11 Revisited' online at http://www.twf.org --

> click on

> link in left hand column; or see: http://www.911revisited.com/

>

> 911 TRUTH RADIO http://www.911truthradio.com

>

> VIDEO ANALYSIS BY ALEX JONES:

> WTC7 - THE HIDDEN STORY OF BUILDING: 7 http://www.wtc7.net

>

> IN PLANE SITE: http://www.911inplanesite.com

>

> LOOSE CHANGE: http://www.loosechange911.com/

>

> http://www.wtc7.net/videos.html

> http://www.911busters.com

> http://www.libertybound.com

> http://www.infowars.com/videos.html#MOT

> http://www.infowars.com/videos.html

> http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3995.htm

> http://www.globalresearch.ca/globaloutlook/coverup.html

> http://www.innworldreport.net

> http://www.911truthbristol.com/videos/films.html

> http://www.911tv.org

>

>

> THE POWER OF NIGHTMARES

> Part One - 59 Minutes

> <http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8217638438978899371>

> Part Two - 59 Minutes

> <http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2839463332690200955>

> Part Three - 59 Minutes

> <http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3649090417189127240>

>

> "EagarBeavers and Faulty Towers"

> http://www.plaguepuppy.net/public_html/Confronting%20the%20Evidence/what_failed_and_how.htm

>

> Webster Tarpley audio interview (low bit rate... easy to stream on

> dial-up)

> http://www.cloakanddagger.de/shows/webcast/_Tarpley_/CLOAK_TARPLEYNOV14.mp3

>

>

>

>

> 9/11 VISIBILITY PROJECT National Campaign Center:

> http://www.septembereleventh.org

>

> NEW YORK 9/11 Truth: http://www.summeroftruth.org

> or http://www.ny911truth.org

>

> Hot Politics - By Owen Whitman

> Libertarian website with many 9/11 and Iraq War articles.

> http://www.hotpolitics.com

>

>

>

>

> PENTAGON

> Until the wall collapsed, the hole in the Pentagon was a 17 ft circle

> (approximately)

> which penetrated 6 steel-reinforced concrete walls... directly into the

> newly beefed-up

> (structurally remodeled) area which was temporarily housing the NIS, who

> were then

> investigating the $2.3 TRILLION dollars in MISSING Pentagon funds. An

> issue, that

> like Enron, was immediately dropped from the news and swept under the

> carpet.

> Any public evidence of bodies or aircraft wreckage from the Pentagon is

> virtually

> non-existant.

> http://judicial-inc.biz/pentagon_flight.htm

> http://www.apfn.org/apfn/flight77.htm

> http://0911.site.voila.fr/

> http://0911.site.voila.fr/index11.htm

> http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/pentagone/erreurs_en.htm

> http://www.loosechange911.com/pentagon.htm

> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1907955.stm

> http://www.thepowerhour.com/911_analysis/pentagon-911.htm

> http://www.serendipity.li/wtc3.htm

> http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/pentagon.html

> http://judicial-inc.biz/Dov_Zakheim_Fl_77.htm

> http://www.amics21.com/911/pentagon.html

> http://www.wanttoknow.info/911information

> http://www.PentagonResearch.com

>

>

> Thierry Meyssan, Original French Author Exposing the possible Pentagon

> Hoax http://www.pentagate.info/sommaire-en.html -- his website recently

> has been closed, but early news (April, 2002) of this Frenchman's book on

> the 'alleged' Pentagon crash is here...

> http://www.nationalreview.com/robbins/robbins040902.asp

> (Now you know why we had "freedom fries" for so long)

>

>

> 911 SEISMIC DATA:

> Seismic data was, of course, COMPLETELY OMITTED from both NIST and FEMA

> reports.

> http://www.rense.com/general67/forensic.htm

> http://uscrisis.lege.net/911/

> http://anderson.ath.cx:8000/911/hj07.html

> <2002> http://www.rense.com/general28/ioff.htm

> http://911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/guardian2/wtc/seismic/WTC_LDEO_KIM.htm

> http://911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/guardian2/wtc/seismic/WTC_PENT_KIM.htm

> http://www.mgs.md.gov/esic/publications/download/911pentagon.pdf

>

>

> More on flight 93

> http://killtown.911review.org/htb2.html

> http://letsroll911.org/phpwebsite/index.php?module=announce&ANN_user_op=view&ANN_id=34

>

>

> THE 911 OSAMA CONFESSION TAPE...

> Have you asked yourself the same question regarding the

> original Osama / 911 'confession' tape? A small child

> could determine that this was completely faked.

> http://www.viewzone.com/osama.html

> http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osamatape.html

> http://www.mujca.com/osama.htm

> http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/farenheit911michaelmoore.html

> http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/realityzone/UFNOsamatapefake.htm

> http://tim.2wgroup.com/blog/archives/001006.html

> http://www.freedomisforeverybody.org/Osama%20bin%20CIA%20Agent.php?id=1521491

> http://www.aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_ID=11633

> http://www.ilaam.net/Sept11/TapeIsFraud.html

>

>

> Current Osama Info:

> http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=SCH20060601&articleId=2555

> http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=15490

> http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=4592

> http://educate-yourself.org/cn/osamafakedtape30may06.shtml

> http://www.rebelwarez.com/rebelblog/2006/09/08/bin-laden-tape-betrays-phony-hijacker-contradiction/

> http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/PressRelease28May2006.html

> http://www.williambowles.info/spysrus/osama_fake.html

> http://www.ilaam.net/Sept11/TapeIsFraud.html

> http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=76&contentid=413&page=2

>

> ON bin LADEN...

> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8853000/site/newsweek/

> http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/030804fa_fact

> http://www.usatoday.com/news/sept11/2002/02/05/usat-binladen-frustration.htm

> http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7932.shtml

> http://www.rinf.com/columnists/news/cia-operative-says-bush-military-leaders-let-bin-laden-escape

> http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/03/24/pentagon.binladen/index.html

> http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/FJ26Ag01.html

> http://www.infowars.com/articles/iraq/let_laden_escape.htm

> http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A62618-2002Apr16&notFound=true

> http://www.oilempire.us/bushbinladen.html

>

>

> ON ZARQARI ...

> http://www.taylormarsh.com/archives_view.php?id=2301

> http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/us-allowed-zarqawi-to-escape/2006/04/30/1146335608444.html

> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/trey-ellis/who-will-finally-explain-_b_7585.html

> http://mediamatters.org/items/200410270007

> http://www.democrats.com/zarqawi

> http://www.juancole.com/2005/12/one-that-got-away-cnn-is-reporting.html

>

>

> Where does GWB fit in? http://www.bushdid911.org

>

>

> WERE THE BUSH AND BinLADEN FAMILIES IN BUSINESS TOGETHER?

> http://www.oilempire.us/bush-binladen.html

> http://www.bushwatch.com/bushmoney.htm

> http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/conspiracytheories/saudi.html

> http://www.hereinreality.com/carlyle.html

> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/articleshow?art_id=1030259305

> http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=971322003

> http://tvnewslies.org/html/bin_laden_ties.html

> http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/09_18_01_bushbin.html

> http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/10_09_01_carlyle.html

> http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/

> http://www.judicialwatch.org/1685.shtml

> http://www.rense.com/general14/bushsformer.htm

> http://www.prisonplanet.com/bin_laden_family_link_to_bush.html

> http://www.inthesetimes.com/issue/25/25/feature3.shtml

> http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/WAL110A.html

> http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?011112fa_FACT3

> http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3308.htm

> http://www.thedubyareport.com/bushbin.html

> http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0111-01.htm

> http://martiallaw911.info/archive/0-26-39.htm

> http://dir.salon.com/story/books/feature/2004/03/11/unger_1/index.html

>

>

> OLDER BUSH'S - doing business with Germany in WW-II

> Dial-up:

> http://70.84.33.210/%7Einfomedi/video/previews/150305martialpreview_mdm.wmv

> DSL:

> http://70.84.33.210/%7Einfomedi/video/previews/150305martialpreview.wmv

>

>

>

> The Presidential "Signing Statement" dictatorship...

>

> http://www.abanet.org/media/releases/news072406.html

> http://www.fff.org/comment/com0610c.asp

> http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20060113.html

> http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/signingstatements.php

> http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/060721/21signing.htm

> http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/07/25/dobbs.july26/index.html

> http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1149361,00.htm

> http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/04/30/bush_challenges_hundreds_of_laws/

> http://www.coherentbabble.com/signingstatements/TOCindex.htm

> http://www.fff.org/comment/com0610c.asp

> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/27/AR2006062700145.html

> http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,1828114,00.html?gusrc=rss

> http://www.antiwar.com/ips/fisher.php?articleid=9222

> http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2007/02/13/the-signing-statement-dictatorship/

>

> And over one million more....

> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=George+Bush%2C+signing+statements&btnG=Google+Search

>

>

>

> "National Security Letters" (gag orders) silence patriots, courts, media

> & business

> as they pry into America's private side.

>

> http://www.techlawjournal.com/topstories/2005/20050824a.asp

> http://writ.news.findlaw.com/ramasastry/20060109.html

> http://www.aclu.org/safefree/nationalsecurityletters/index.html

> http://www.aclu.org/safefree/patriot/17458res20040929.html

> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/05/AR2005110501366.html

> http://reclaimdemocracy.org/articles_2004/national_security_letters.html

> http://www.sptimes.com/2005/11/13/Columns/National_security_let.shtml

> http://leahy.senate.gov/press/200512/120805.html

>

> And over 67 Million more....

> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=National+security+letter&btnG=Google+Search

>

>

>

>

> THE BOGUS FEMA AND NIST INVESTIGATIONS...

> This is the largest cover-up in American history, from a panel comprised

> mostly

> of Bush cabinet cronies with too many conflicting interests to be taken

> seriously.

> Who themselves, complain that there was too little money, too little time,

> and too

> much "pressure" to complete the report with enough accuracy. It's based

> on

> assumptions and contains overtly false information, and failed to answer

> the

> questions which when finally raised legally, forced the government to

> appoint

> the team... but long after the country was at was and the 911 evidence

> removed.

> http://vancouver.indymedia.org/?q=node/1634

> http://911research.wtc7.net/resources/books/index.html

> http://www.septembereleventh.org/

> http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2006/911-WTC-NIST-Lies30mar06.htm

> http://www.911review.com/coverup/nist.html

> http://visibility911.libsyn.com/

> http://www.answers.com/topic/researchers-questioning-the-official-account-of-9-11

> http://www.organicconsumers.org/politics/911012306.cfm

> http://www.justicefor911.org/Contents_and_Evidence_111904.php

> http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/print_friendly.php?p=opedne_sheila_s_060329_9_2f11____eliminating_.htm

> http://www.911citizenswatch.org/print.php?sid=895

> http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041221155307646

> http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20060405143535564

> http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/Article/Interrogating_9-11_Five_Years_On.html

> http://forum.physorg.com/index.php?showtopic=4418&st=2040

> http://forum.physorg.com/index.php?showtopic=4418&st=2010

> http://worldtradecentertruth.com/Article_1_Ryan5.pdf#search=%22NIST%20report%20on%20911%2C%20Omissions%20and%20distortions%22

> http://www.vtcommons.org/node/190

> http://www.tpmcafe.com/node/28070

> http://911smokingguns.com/

> http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=21137

>

>

>

>

> VOTE FRAUD

> Vote Fraud MSNBC Video 2004 -

> http://www.vestigialconscience.com/5.countdown_56k.mov

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_U.S._presidential_election_controversy_and_irregularities

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_United_States_presidential_election_controversy%2C_exit_polls

> http://nightweed.com/usavotefacts.html

> http://www.blackboxvoting.org

> http://www.alternet.org/bloggers/evan/40755/

> http://itpolicy.princeton.edu/voting/summary.html

> http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/2004votefraud.html

> http://vote2004.eriposte.com/

> http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2004/031104votefraud.htm

> http://www.votersunite.org/electionproblems.asp

> http://www.ideamouth.com/voterfraud.htm

> http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/2004_vote_fraud.html

> http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election_stolen

> http://www.projectcensored.org/newsflash/voter_fraud.html

> http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0411/S00124.htm

> http://www.legitgov.org/coup_2004.html

> http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/122404X.shtml

> http://www.thewe.cc/contents/more/archive/united_states_voting_procedures.html

> http://www.seminolechronicle.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2004/12/16/41c2fdb042ea1

> Video / Bev Harris - http://prisonplanet.tv/audio/041104harris.htm

> http://www.counterpunch.org/swanson11082004.html

> http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1118-22.htm

> http://www.tvnewslies.org/html/election_2004.html

> http://www.epionline.org/news_detail.cfm?rid=84

> http://www.truthinvoting.org/

> http://blackvoternetwork.com/votefraud.htm

> http://www.flcv.com/fraudpat.html

> http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/110504Chin/110504chin.html

>

> More links at http://www.squadron13.com/JackDresser/electionfraud.htm

> And at bottom... http://www.pamrotella.com/polhist/elections2004.html

>

> "We cannot accept this result as legitimate, because it does not

> meet

> international standards. We call for a full review of the conduct

> of the

> election and the tallying." --Colin Powell on the 2004 election

>

>

> Outraged republican moderates:

> http://www.outragedmoderates.org/Page4.html

>

>

> Who in current government served their nation in combat?

> http://www.awolbush.com/

> http://www.awolbush.com/cheney.html

> http://www.awolbush.com/whoserved.html

> http://www.democrats.com/display.cfm?id=165

> http://www.rackjite.com/chawks.htm

> http://www.houstonpress.com/issues/1999-01-07/columns2.html/1/index.html

>

>

>

> MEDIA CONTROL

> 5 companies (well, 6 really) control ALL of the media you see or hear

> in the United States. Each of these makes so much money that

> there is little chance of them hurting. You can view the information

> on the controlling interests below. These are tough times in America

> and many things about media (like conglomerates and control) seriously

> need to be fixed, so that this country isn't jointly spoon fed the lies

> which

> could lead to it's demise.

>

> http://www.nowfoundation.org/issues/communications/tv/mediacontrol.html

>

>

>

> ILLUMINATI... (Also referred to as: "The New World Order")

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati

> http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/illuminatiagendabestoverviewyet8jun02.shtml

> http://www.rotten.com/library/conspiracy/illuminati/

> http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Illuminati.htm

> http://www.geocities.com/francis_uy/halliburton.html

> http://skepdic.com/illuminati.html

> http://www.mysteries-megasite.com/main/bigsearch/luminati.html

> http://poweredbychrist.homestead.com/files/bush/rituals.htm

> 'Illuminati' has been a part of world history for centuries and is

> highly threatening to a peaceful humanity.

>

>

>

> Casual commentary style reporting from March 28, 2006

> "Eliminating the Impossible" By Sheila Samples

> http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/print_friendly.php?p=opedne_sheila_s_060329_9_2f11____eliminating_.htm

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

Guest David Morgan \(MAMS\)
Posted

"Ned Flanders" <iknowitsonlyrocknroll@butilikeit> wrote in message news:4615e6ee$0$16558$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

>

> "David Morgan (MAMS)" <findme@m-a-m-s.comC/Odm> wrote in message

> news:kslRh.5895$F%1.4149@trnddc01...

>

> <snip>

>

> > Remember this one?

> >

> > http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article12060.htm

>

>

> Here's a quote from the above article:

>

> "The War Department is planning to insert itself into every area of the

> Internet from blogs to chat rooms, from leftist web sites to editorial

> commentary. Their rapid response team will be on hair-trigger alert to

> dispute any tidbit of information that challenges the official storyline."

>

> I wonder if the shills on this thread are paid by the government...?

 

 

There is one recent entry that is highly suspect.

Guest David Morgan \(MAMS\)
Posted

"Ned Flanders" <iknowitsonlyrocknroll@butilikeit> wrote in message news:4615e660$0$5746$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

>

> "David Morgan (MAMS)" <findme@m-a-m-s.comC/Odm> wrote in message

> news:kslRh.5895$F%1.4149@trnddc01...

>

> <slash>

>

>

> > Who better to oversee the University that houses the "Bush Presidential

> > Library"? He should have stayed there in pleasant retirement from his

> > previous government service. I honestly don't think he's as 'dingy' as

> > Rummy... but he's got a lot more experience in America's 'colorful' and

> > historic dealings with the middle east.

> >

> > ____________________________________

> >

> > Remember this one?

> >

> > http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article12060.htm

>

> Bush and his handlers hate free speech. It shines a light

> into their darkness, like bugs under a heavy rock they cant

> stand such light.

 

 

May I ask where you are posting from? I feel that this 5-way crossposting

should come to an end soon.

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