Guest Ned Flanders Posted April 6, 2007 Posted April 6, 2007 "Al Dykes" <adykes@panix.com> wrote in message news:ev4hlf$4pk$1@panix5.panix.com... <snip> > Read up on how it warped. > > The builing was only about twice as high as it is wide, there was no > big hand to push it over. How else do you expect it to fall. Like a previously stated, asymmetrically. If it collapsed from warping [as you say] it should have fallen that way. Instead it went from fully erect to pancake in seconds! And yet you believe that diesel fires can do that. > Besides, there is no demolition expert that says that explosives > explain the way WTC7 collapsed. Are you suggesting that explosives couldn't cause that type of collapse? > WTC7 was cantileavered over a pre-existing power substation, Most > discussions consider this a weakness in the frame that was compounded > bythe protracted fire and made worse by teh damage from falling > debris. > > See the pics here. > > http://wtc.nist.gov/progress_report_june04/appendixl.pdf Sorry. The "dot gov" in the url shows that they will only support their version of events. Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't the building 'haunted' by various secret service offices? <snip bull $hit FEMA apologetics> You still haven't answered my questions: What barrow do you have to push? Or, what are you in denial of? Quote
Guest David Morgan \(MAMS\) Posted April 6, 2007 Posted April 6, 2007 "Ned Flanders" <iknowitsonlyrocknroll@butilikeit> wrote in message... Thanks for stepping in and taking up some slack. DM > SEE: > http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2007/090207broughtdown.htm > SEE: > http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2007/100207heardbombs.htm > SEE: > > SEE: > http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2006/230806wtccomplex.htm > SEE: > http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2007/260207building7.htm > > Why are enemies of free speech attempting to have Rosie O'Donnell > thrown off the air simply for discussing this issue? Quote
Guest Al Dykes Posted April 6, 2007 Posted April 6, 2007 In article <oakRh.7665$i93.525@trnddc05>, David Morgan \(MAMS\) <findme@m-a-m-s.comC/Odm> wrote: > >"Tankfixer" <paul.carrier@us.army.m> wrote in message.... > >> So far the proponents of the "implosion" theory can't explain why no one >> saw any evidence of the building being prepared. > > >No one on the ground saw any evidence before the first smart bomb >hit Bagdad, either.... but it damned sure hit now didn't it? > > > > Have we invented a secret implosion bomb? -- a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001 Quote
Guest Ned Flanders Posted April 6, 2007 Posted April 6, 2007 "Al Dykes" <adykes@panix.com> wrote in message news:ev4hoh$aul$1@panix5.panix.com... <remove previous banter, like the way that steel way removed from WTC> > >> Because they had laser rangefinders painting it and could tell it was > >> moving ? > >> That it was unstable and might come down ? > > > >Very unlikely. > >But if you believe it that's ok. > > > > What is "unlikely" ? I find it very unlikely that rangefinders could predict that the building would collapse, when the owner admitted it was "pulled". Both cannot be true. You can make up you own mind, but you haven't convinced me. Ned Quote
Guest David Morgan \(MAMS\) Posted April 6, 2007 Posted April 6, 2007 "Tankfixer" <paul.carrier@us.army.m> wrote in message... > > If the collapse of the building was an accident, why were ground zero > > personnel, firefighters and police told to vacate the area surrounding > > Building 7 in advance because the structure was to be brought down? > Because they had laser rangefinders painting it and could tell it was > moving ? That it was unstable and might come down ? Did your Uncle Sam teach you the "paint" word, little FIXER man? In 1970, I could put a 30.06 round somewhere in your chest from 500 yards - - you wouldn't hear my shot until long after you had hit the deck.... and I din't need no stinking little red dot to do it, either. I'm sure there was plenty of time to bring out the 'laser-levels from the wood shop on 911..... Sheeesh..... What a weak shill you are. Quote
Guest Al Dykes Posted April 6, 2007 Posted April 6, 2007 In article <4615cdea$0$16555$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>, Ned Flanders <iknowitsonlyrocknroll@butilikeit> wrote: > >"Al Dykes" <adykes@panix.com> wrote in message >news:ev4hlf$4pk$1@panix5.panix.com... > ><snip> > >> Read up on how it warped. >> >> The builing was only about twice as high as it is wide, there was no >> big hand to push it over. How else do you expect it to fall. > >Like a previously stated, asymmetrically. >If it collapsed from warping [as you say] it should have >fallen that way. Instead it went from fully erect to pancake >in seconds! >And yet you believe that diesel fires can do that. > > >> Besides, there is no demolition expert that says that explosives >> explain the way WTC7 collapsed. > > >Are you suggesting that explosives couldn't cause >that type of collapse? > There is no expert that says that explosives caused WTC7 to collapse. Find one that says different. > >> WTC7 was cantileavered over a pre-existing power substation, Most >> discussions consider this a weakness in the frame that was compounded >> bythe protracted fire and made worse by teh damage from falling >> debris. >> >> See the pics here. >> >> http://wtc.nist.gov/progress_report_june04/appendixl.pdf > > >Sorry. >The "dot gov" in the url shows that they will only support >their version of events. Did you ever try to tell a tenured professor what to think? Your parania is showing, and you are insulting the intellectual honesty and patriotism of hundreds if not a few thousand people that contributed to the NIST reports in some way. And many thousands to a few million people, worldwide with expertise look at these NIST reports from their own professional perspectives and speak out if they see something. They frequently do, but don't conflate professioanl disagreements with the idea that any of them think that explosives/thermate/thermite is needed to explain the events of 9/11. There are millions of people, worldwide, with relevent expertise that take an interest in the collapse of WTC1/2/7 for professional reasons. They work for other governments, academia, and private industry. None of them have said that explosives were needed to explian WTC1/2/7. -- a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001 Quote
Guest Al Dykes Posted April 6, 2007 Posted April 6, 2007 In article <4615cf32$0$16555$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>, Ned Flanders <iknowitsonlyrocknroll@butilikeit> wrote: > >"Al Dykes" <adykes@panix.com> wrote in message >news:ev4hoh$aul$1@panix5.panix.com... > ><remove previous banter, like the way that steel way removed from WTC> > >> >> Because they had laser rangefinders painting it and could tell it was >> >> moving ? >> >> That it was unstable and might come down ? >> > >> >Very unlikely. >> >But if you believe it that's ok. >> > >> >> What is "unlikely" ? > > I find it very unlikely that rangefinders could predict that >the building would collapse, when the owner admitted it >was "pulled". Both cannot be true. You can make up you own >mind, but you haven't convinced me. > But they did. The building was changing shape for hours. The building was a total loss. Silverstien was going to get his insurance money even if the fire just burned itself out and left a shell standing, -- a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001 Quote
Guest David Morgan \(MAMS\) Posted April 6, 2007 Posted April 6, 2007 "Ned Flanders" <iknowitsonlyrocknroll@butilikeit>... > > > SEE: > > > Some 50 of my links to 911 related videos on YouTube went dead this week. All (from a huge variety of different sources) are flagged, "removed for violation of terms of service". I guess that Gates is taking up where Rumsfeld left off. I don't see why not.... After all, he was one of the original financiers of Tim Osman (also known as: Osama bin Laden). Quote
Guest David Morgan \(MAMS\) Posted April 6, 2007 Posted April 6, 2007 "Tankfixer" <paul.carrier@us.army.m> wrote in message news:KqhRh.19957$tD2.7738@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net... > In article <aI1Rh.3432$WL4.624@trnddc04>, findme@m-a-m-s.comC/Odm > mumbled > > > > "Tankfixer" <paul.carrier@us.army.m> wrote in message news:Je%Qh.134538$_73.131854@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... > > > In article <PeWQh.5353$i93.2535@trnddc05>, findme@m-a-m-s.comC/Odm > > > mumbled > > > > > > > The owner of a demolition company estimated it would 30 or 40 trained men to > > > > > wire that building in one day > > > > > So who was it > > > > Yiou mean who blew Building 7, WTC? > > No you ditz. > Who is the "explosives expert" you are citing above. You've been quoting the wrong text to the wrong poster for 36 hours.... are you sober little fixer ?? Quote
Guest David Morgan \(MAMS\) Posted April 6, 2007 Posted April 6, 2007 "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:46155a64$0$21074$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > "David Morgan (MAMS)" <findme@m-a-m-s.comC/Odm> wrote in message > news:H7aRh.5818$jZ3.5740@trnddc06... > > > > "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:4614ca28$0$9961$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > > > >> So? > > > > You must be a genuine, American, braindead, Couch-Potato. > > Can't answer my question, I see. If you can't figure out that it matters, you don't deserve an answer... but just for you, here we go again.... http://www.pilotsfor911truth.org/ Here... go occupy yourself... ;-) http://www.911sharethetruth.com/ http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/index.html http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/Resources.html http://www.reopen911.org/ http://patriotsquestion911.com/ http://www.pilotsfor911truth.org http://www.911weknow.com/linkspage.htm http://question911.com/links.php http://www.flight77.info/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Researchers_questioning_the_official_account_of_9/11 http://www.answers.com/topic/researchers-questioning-the-official-account-of-9-11 http://www.WingTV.net http://911truth.org http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/Article/Interrogating_9-11_Five_Years_On.html http://worldtradecentertruth.com/ 911 FOR THE TRUTH: http://www.911forthetruth.com 911 RESEARCH: http://911research.wtc7.net The Science: Fires and Buildings: 911 PHYSICS http://www.physics911.org FIREFIGHTERS VS 911 COMMISSION <http://www.911lies.org/fire_fighters_911_wtc_tapes.html> Muslims suspend laws of physics: http://www.public-action.com/911/jmcm/physics_1.html http://www.serendipity.li/wot/mslp_ii.htm Network in Britain and Ireland which agregates the efforts of all those campaigning in Europe for 911 truth. http://www.nineeleven.co.uk http://www.vestigialconscience.com/ Misc. archived conspiracy evidence Project for a New American Century Planned Iraq War Long Ago.... Information Clearing House http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1665.htm MSNBC Article: http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6814437 The Project's Web Site http://www.newamericancentury.org/ 9-11 and the IMPOSSIBLE http://home.comcast.net/~skydrifter/exp.htm The Implosion (so-called 'collapse') of WTC Building 7, coupled with the absence of substantiating evidence of a 757 crashing into the Pentagon are probably the biggest government screw-ups. More links to Bldg 7 and the Pentagon mixed in below. http://www.911research.wtc7.net/cache/wtc/evidence/usgs_hotspots.html http://www.wtc7.net/background.html http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/bbc_wtc7_videos.html EXPLOSIVES?? http://69.28.73.17/thornarticles/powerdown.html http://www.nynewsday.com/news/local/manhattan/wtc/ny-nyaler122362178sep12,0,6794009.story http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/Tower2Pulled.mp3 http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/Tower1Pulled.mp3 http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/911.wtc.ann.thompson.cars.wmv http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/911.wtc.secondary.explosions.jeffrey.beatty.wmv http://www.lewrockwell.com/reynolds/reynolds12.html http://www.arcticbeacon.com/articles/article/1518131/28031.htm http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8172271955308136871 The World Trade Center Demolition and the So-Called War on Terrorism http://www.serendipity.li/wtc.htm News and Resources on 9/11: 911 ONLINE RESEARCH http://www.cooperativeresearch.org 911 REVIEW http://www.911review.org (available in multiple languages) 911 TRUTH Los Angeles http://www.911truthla.us 9/11 VISIBILITY PROJECT National Campaign Center http://www.septembereleventh.org American Free Press: http://www.americanfreepress.net/ KILLTOWN 911 REVIEW http://killtown.911review.org Karl W. B. Schwarz - Online Journal - Great Source on Financial Basis for 9/11 http://onlinejournal.com/ PORTLAND INDEPENDENT MEDIA CENTER http://portland.indymedia.org UNANSWERED QUESTIONS http://www.unansweredquestions.org INTERNATIONAL CITIZEN'S INQUIRY INTO 9/11 http://www.911inquiry.org PETITION OF SOLIDARITY http://justicefor911.org "WHAT FAILED" -On Plague Puppy: http://www.plaguepuppy.net/public_html/Confronting%20the%20Evidence/what_failed_and_how.htm Conspiracy News Net http://www.conspiracynewsnet.com/ http://www.whatreallyhappened.com http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/ Hijacking Catastophe - http://207.44.245.159/article6895.htm Black Boxes coverup http://globalresearch.ca/articles/BUN410B.html Failure to defend America: (more of Paul Thompson's Timeline) http://www.billstclair.com/911timeline/main/essayairdefense.html http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0306/S00031.htm 9-11 Motivation http://www.antiwar.com/orig/utley7.html 911: Coincidence Theory The Coincidence Theorist's Guide to 9/11 http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/archive/scoop/stories/60/5a/200408231012.3bb72110.html Dov Zakheim, Pentagon Comptroller, ran drone plane company. http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?noframes;read=53486 Craig Hill's New Video: "Treason, Inc." Craig Hill documents the lies and actions of the Bush adminstration that amount to treason. Order here: http://www.hillsenatenow.org/ Some Alternative News Sites: CITIZENS FOR LEGIT GOVERNMENT http://legitgov.org MICHAEL RUPPERT'S http://www.fromthewilderness.com MARK CRISPIN MILLER'S http://markcrispinmiller.blogspot.com/ http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/ http://www.alternet.org/ http://www.yellowtimes.org/ http://www.indymedia.org/en/index.shtml http://www.antiwar.com http://www.iraqwar.org/ http://www.tvnewslies.org/ http://www.prisonPlanet.com http://www.Infowars.com http://www.libertyforum.org The Emperors New Clothes http://www.tenc.net/ Some Conspiracy Theory Sites: 911 CITIZEN'S WATCH: http://www.911citizenswatch.org 911 STRIKE http://www.911-strike.com 911 SKEPTICS UNITE http://911skeptics.blogspot.com 911 SHARE THE TRUTH http://www.911sharethetruth.com PROPOSITION 911 http://www.proposition911.org SCOTT LEDGER'S TRUTH SITE: http://www.scottledger.com Scientific Evidence that Official 9/11 Story is a Lie http://www.ditrianum.org/Artikelen/artikel33en.htm Videos and Media: 911 BUSTERS http://www.911busters.com http://www.911busters.com/911-Commission.html DOWNLOAD VIDEOS HERE: http://question911.com/links.php SNOWSHOE DOCUMENTARY FILMS http://www.snowshoefilms.com/911coverup.html Watch the movie 'September 11 Revisited' online at http://www.twf.org -- click on link in left hand column; or see: http://www.911revisited.com/ 911 TRUTH RADIO http://www.911truthradio.com VIDEO ANALYSIS BY ALEX JONES: WTC7 - THE HIDDEN STORY OF BUILDING: 7 http://www.wtc7.net IN PLANE SITE: http://www.911inplanesite.com LOOSE CHANGE: http://www.loosechange911.com/ http://www.wtc7.net/videos.html http://www.911busters.com http://www.libertybound.com http://www.infowars.com/videos.html#MOT http://www.infowars.com/videos.html http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3995.htm http://www.globalresearch.ca/globaloutlook/coverup.html http://www.innworldreport.net http://www.911truthbristol.com/videos/films.html http://www.911tv.org THE POWER OF NIGHTMARES Part One - 59 Minutes <http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8217638438978899371> Part Two - 59 Minutes <http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2839463332690200955> Part Three - 59 Minutes <http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3649090417189127240> "EagarBeavers and Faulty Towers" http://www.plaguepuppy.net/public_html/Confronting%20the%20Evidence/what_failed_and_how.htm Webster Tarpley audio interview (low bit rate... easy to stream on dial-up) http://www.cloakanddagger.de/shows/webcast/_Tarpley_/CLOAK_TARPLEYNOV14.mp3 9/11 VISIBILITY PROJECT National Campaign Center: http://www.septembereleventh.org NEW YORK 9/11 Truth: http://www.summeroftruth.org or http://www.ny911truth.org Hot Politics - By Owen Whitman Libertarian website with many 9/11 and Iraq War articles. http://www.hotpolitics.com PENTAGON Until the wall collapsed, the hole in the Pentagon was a 17 ft circle (approximately) which penetrated 6 steel-reinforced concrete walls... directly into the newly beefed-up (structurally remodeled) area which was temporarily housing the NIS, who were then investigating the $2.3 TRILLION dollars in MISSING Pentagon funds. An issue, that like Enron, was immediately dropped from the news and swept under the carpet. Any public evidence of bodies or aircraft wreckage from the Pentagon is virtually non-existant. http://judicial-inc.biz/pentagon_flight.htm http://www.apfn.org/apfn/flight77.htm http://0911.site.voila.fr/ http://0911.site.voila.fr/index11.htm http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/pentagone/erreurs_en.htm http://www.loosechange911.com/pentagon.htm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1907955.stm http://www.thepowerhour.com/911_analysis/pentagon-911.htm http://www.serendipity.li/wtc3.htm http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/pentagon.html http://judicial-inc.biz/Dov_Zakheim_Fl_77.htm http://www.amics21.com/911/pentagon.html http://www.wanttoknow.info/911information http://www.PentagonResearch.com Thierry Meyssan, Original French Author Exposing the possible Pentagon Hoax http://www.pentagate.info/sommaire-en.html -- his website recently has been closed, but early news (April, 2002) of this Frenchman's book on the 'alleged' Pentagon crash is here... http://www.nationalreview.com/robbins/robbins040902.asp (Now you know why we had "freedom fries" for so long) 911 SEISMIC DATA: Seismic data was, of course, COMPLETELY OMITTED from both NIST and FEMA reports. http://www.rense.com/general67/forensic.htm http://uscrisis.lege.net/911/ http://anderson.ath.cx:8000/911/hj07.html <2002> http://www.rense.com/general28/ioff.htm http://911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/guardian2/wtc/seismic/WTC_LDEO_KIM.htm http://911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/guardian2/wtc/seismic/WTC_PENT_KIM.htm http://www.mgs.md.gov/esic/publications/download/911pentagon.pdf More on flight 93 http://killtown.911review.org/htb2.html http://letsroll911.org/phpwebsite/index.php?module=announce&ANN_user_op=view&ANN_id=34 THE 911 OSAMA CONFESSION TAPE... Have you asked yourself the same question regarding the original Osama / 911 'confession' tape? A small child could determine that this was completely faked. http://www.viewzone.com/osama.html http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osamatape.html http://www.mujca.com/osama.htm http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/farenheit911michaelmoore.html http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/realityzone/UFNOsamatapefake.htm http://tim.2wgroup.com/blog/archives/001006.html http://www.freedomisforeverybody.org/Osama%20bin%20CIA%20Agent.php?id=1521491 http://www.aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_ID=11633 http://www.ilaam.net/Sept11/TapeIsFraud.html Current Osama Info: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=SCH20060601&articleId=2555 http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=15490 http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=4592 http://educate-yourself.org/cn/osamafakedtape30may06.shtml http://www.rebelwarez.com/rebelblog/2006/09/08/bin-laden-tape-betrays-phony-hijacker-contradiction/ http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/PressRelease28May2006.html http://www.williambowles.info/spysrus/osama_fake.html http://www.ilaam.net/Sept11/TapeIsFraud.html http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=76&contentid=413&page=2 ON bin LADEN... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8853000/site/newsweek/ http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/030804fa_fact http://www.usatoday.com/news/sept11/2002/02/05/usat-binladen-frustration.htm http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7932.shtml http://www.rinf.com/columnists/news/cia-operative-says-bush-military-leaders-let-bin-laden-escape http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/03/24/pentagon.binladen/index.html http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/FJ26Ag01.html http://www.infowars.com/articles/iraq/let_laden_escape.htm http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A62618-2002Apr16¬Found=true http://www.oilempire.us/bushbinladen.html ON ZARQARI ... http://www.taylormarsh.com/archives_view.php?id=2301 http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/us-allowed-zarqawi-to-escape/2006/04/30/1146335608444.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/trey-ellis/who-will-finally-explain-_b_7585.html http://mediamatters.org/items/200410270007 http://www.democrats.com/zarqawi http://www.juancole.com/2005/12/one-that-got-away-cnn-is-reporting.html Where does GWB fit in? http://www.bushdid911.org WERE THE BUSH AND BinLADEN FAMILIES IN BUSINESS TOGETHER? http://www.oilempire.us/bush-binladen.html http://www.bushwatch.com/bushmoney.htm http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/conspiracytheories/saudi.html http://www.hereinreality.com/carlyle.html http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/articleshow?art_id=1030259305 http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=971322003 http://tvnewslies.org/html/bin_laden_ties.html http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/09_18_01_bushbin.html http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/10_09_01_carlyle.html http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/ http://www.judicialwatch.org/1685.shtml http://www.rense.com/general14/bushsformer.htm http://www.prisonplanet.com/bin_laden_family_link_to_bush.html http://www.inthesetimes.com/issue/25/25/feature3.shtml http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/WAL110A.html http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?011112fa_FACT3 http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3308.htm http://www.thedubyareport.com/bushbin.html http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0111-01.htm http://martiallaw911.info/archive/0-26-39.htm http://dir.salon.com/story/books/feature/2004/03/11/unger_1/index.html OLDER BUSH'S - doing business with Germany in WW-II Dial-up: http://70.84.33.210/%7Einfomedi/video/previews/150305martialpreview_mdm.wmv DSL: http://70.84.33.210/%7Einfomedi/video/previews/150305martialpreview.wmv The Presidential "Signing Statement" dictatorship... http://www.abanet.org/media/releases/news072406.html http://www.fff.org/comment/com0610c.asp http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20060113.html http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/signingstatements.php http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/060721/21signing.htm http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/07/25/dobbs.july26/index.html http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1149361,00.htm http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/04/30/bush_challenges_hundreds_of_laws/ http://www.coherentbabble.com/signingstatements/TOCindex.htm http://www.fff.org/comment/com0610c.asp http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/27/AR2006062700145.html http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,1828114,00.html?gusrc=rss http://www.antiwar.com/ips/fisher.php?articleid=9222 http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2007/02/13/the-signing-statement-dictatorship/ And over one million more.... http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=George+Bush%2C+signing+statements&btnG=Google+Search "National Security Letters" (gag orders) silence patriots, courts, media & business as they pry into America's private side. http://www.techlawjournal.com/topstories/2005/20050824a.asp http://writ.news.findlaw.com/ramasastry/20060109.html http://www.aclu.org/safefree/nationalsecurityletters/index.html http://www.aclu.org/safefree/patriot/17458res20040929.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/05/AR2005110501366.html http://reclaimdemocracy.org/articles_2004/national_security_letters.html http://www.sptimes.com/2005/11/13/Columns/National_security_let.shtml http://leahy.senate.gov/press/200512/120805.html And over 67 Million more.... http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=National+security+letter&btnG=Google+Search THE BOGUS FEMA AND NIST INVESTIGATIONS... This is the largest cover-up in American history, from a panel comprised mostly of Bush cabinet cronies with too many conflicting interests to be taken seriously. Who themselves, complain that there was too little money, too little time, and too much "pressure" to complete the report with enough accuracy. It's based on assumptions and contains overtly false information, and failed to answer the questions which when finally raised legally, forced the government to appoint the team... but long after the country was at was and the 911 evidence removed. http://vancouver.indymedia.org/?q=node/1634 http://911research.wtc7.net/resources/books/index.html http://www.septembereleventh.org/ http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2006/911-WTC-NIST-Lies30mar06.htm http://www.911review.com/coverup/nist.html http://visibility911.libsyn.com/ http://www.answers.com/topic/researchers-questioning-the-official-account-of-9-11 http://www.organicconsumers.org/politics/911012306.cfm http://www.justicefor911.org/Contents_and_Evidence_111904.php http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/print_friendly.php?p=opedne_sheila_s_060329_9_2f11____eliminating_.htm http://www.911citizenswatch.org/print.php?sid=895 http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041221155307646 http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20060405143535564 http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/Article/Interrogating_9-11_Five_Years_On.html http://forum.physorg.com/index.php?showtopic=4418&st=2040 http://forum.physorg.com/index.php?showtopic=4418&st=2010 http://worldtradecentertruth.com/Article_1_Ryan5.pdf#search=%22NIST%20report%20on%20911%2C%20Omissions%20and%20distortions%22 http://www.vtcommons.org/node/190 http://www.tpmcafe.com/node/28070 http://911smokingguns.com/ http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=21137 VOTE FRAUD Vote Fraud MSNBC Video 2004 - http://www.vestigialconscience.com/5.countdown_56k.mov http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_U.S._presidential_election_controversy_and_irregularities http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_United_States_presidential_election_controversy%2C_exit_polls http://nightweed.com/usavotefacts.html http://www.blackboxvoting.org http://www.alternet.org/bloggers/evan/40755/ http://itpolicy.princeton.edu/voting/summary.html http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/2004votefraud.html http://vote2004.eriposte.com/ http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2004/031104votefraud.htm http://www.votersunite.org/electionproblems.asp http://www.ideamouth.com/voterfraud.htm http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/2004_vote_fraud.html http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election_stolen http://www.projectcensored.org/newsflash/voter_fraud.html http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0411/S00124.htm http://www.legitgov.org/coup_2004.html http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/122404X.shtml http://www.thewe.cc/contents/more/archive/united_states_voting_procedures.html http://www.seminolechronicle.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2004/12/16/41c2fdb042ea1 Video / Bev Harris - http://prisonplanet.tv/audio/041104harris.htm http://www.counterpunch.org/swanson11082004.html http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1118-22.htm http://www.tvnewslies.org/html/election_2004.html http://www.epionline.org/news_detail.cfm?rid=84 http://www.truthinvoting.org/ http://blackvoternetwork.com/votefraud.htm http://www.flcv.com/fraudpat.html http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/110504Chin/110504chin.html More links at http://www.squadron13.com/JackDresser/electionfraud.htm And at bottom... http://www.pamrotella.com/polhist/elections2004.html "We cannot accept this result as legitimate, because it does not meet international standards. We call for a full review of the conduct of the election and the tallying." --Colin Powell on the 2004 election Outraged republican moderates: http://www.outragedmoderates.org/Page4.html Who in current government served their nation in combat? http://www.awolbush.com/ http://www.awolbush.com/cheney.html http://www.awolbush.com/whoserved.html http://www.democrats.com/display.cfm?id=165 http://www.rackjite.com/chawks.htm http://www.houstonpress.com/issues/1999-01-07/columns2.html/1/index.html MEDIA CONTROL 5 companies (well, 6 really) control ALL of the media you see or hear in the United States. Each of these makes so much money that there is little chance of them hurting. You can view the information on the controlling interests below. These are tough times in America and many things about media (like conglomerates and control) seriously need to be fixed, so that this country isn't jointly spoon fed the lies which could lead to it's demise. http://www.nowfoundation.org/issues/communications/tv/mediacontrol.html ILLUMINATI... (Also referred to as: "The New World Order") http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/illuminatiagendabestoverviewyet8jun02.shtml http://www.rotten.com/library/conspiracy/illuminati/ http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Illuminati.htm http://www.geocities.com/francis_uy/halliburton.html http://skepdic.com/illuminati.html http://www.mysteries-megasite.com/main/bigsearch/luminati.html http://poweredbychrist.homestead.com/files/bush/rituals.htm 'Illuminati' has been a part of world history for centuries and is highly threatening to a peaceful humanity. Casual commentary style reporting from March 28, 2006 "Eliminating the Impossible" By Sheila Samples http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/print_friendly.php?p=opedne_sheila_s_060329_9_2f11____eliminating_.htm Quote
Guest Al Dykes Posted April 6, 2007 Posted April 6, 2007 In article <4615cdea$0$16555$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>, Ned Flanders <iknowitsonlyrocknroll@butilikeit> wrote: > >"Al Dykes" <adykes@panix.com> wrote in message >news:ev4hlf$4pk$1@panix5.panix.com... > ><snip> > >> Read up on how it warped. >> >> The builing was only about twice as high as it is wide, there was no >> big hand to push it over. How else do you expect it to fall. > >Like a previously stated, asymmetrically. >If it collapsed from warping [as you say] it should have >fallen that way. Instead it went from fully erect to pancake >in seconds! >And yet you believe that diesel fires can do that. > > You insist on making the same point, over and over by stampoing your feet and saying Must! Must! Must! and showing no signs if attempting to understand what same-day news reports and pictures say. http://wtc.nist.gov/progress_report_june04/appendixl.pdf -- a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001 Quote
Guest Vandar Posted April 6, 2007 Posted April 6, 2007 Ned Flanders wrote: > Silverstein claimed on TV that, "a decision was made to ~pull~ the > building". That's a lie. Quote
Guest Ned Flanders Posted April 6, 2007 Posted April 6, 2007 "Al Dykes" <adykes@panix.com> wrote in message news:ev4jvi$933$1@panix5.panix.com... <remove previous> > You insist on making the same point, over and over > by stampoing your feet and saying Must! Must! Must! > and showing no signs if attempting to understand > what same-day news reports and pictures say. Wrong. I have not said "Must! Must! Must!. I have challenged your beliefs, and you are reacting not me. > http://wtc.nist.gov/progress_report_june04/appendixl.pdf Their's that 'dot gov' thing again... No sale. Are you employed by the govt. to propagate their lies? Or do you do it for another reason? Quote
Guest Ned Flanders Posted April 6, 2007 Posted April 6, 2007 "Al Dykes" <adykes@panix.com> wrote in message news:ev4jii$7hj$1@panix5.panix.com... <snip> > Did you ever try to tell a tenured professor what to think? > > Your parania is showing, and you are insulting the intellectual > honesty and patriotism of hundreds if not a few thousand people that > contributed to the NIST reports in some way. > > And many thousands to a few million people, worldwide with expertise > look at these NIST reports from their own professional perspectives > and speak out if they see something. > > They frequently do, but don't conflate professioanl disagreements with > the idea that any of them think that explosives/thermate/thermite is > needed to explain the events of 9/11. > > There are millions of people, worldwide, with relevent expertise that > take an interest in the collapse of WTC1/2/7 for professional reasons. > They work for other governments, academia, and private industry. None > of them have said that explosives were needed to explian WTC1/2/7. And yet the firemen who were eye witnesses saw and heard explosions. And the guy/company who supplied the structural steel for the WTC got fired when he claimed that there was no way that fires caused the collapse. And the same government who claim WMD in Iraq said it just fell down from fire, and you believe them. Good luck with your beliefs. You still haven't answered my questions: What barrow do you have to push? Or, what are you in denial of? Quote
Guest Ned Flanders Posted April 6, 2007 Posted April 6, 2007 "Vandar" <vandar69@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:sEkRh.6169$B25.3892@news01.roc.ny... > Ned Flanders wrote: > > > Silverstein claimed on TV that, "a decision was made to ~pull~ the > > building". > > That's a lie. Why not spend a few minutes watching the footage? You can see Larry Silverstien himself say it. Get a copy of 'Martial Law' by Alex Jones and fastforward the first 53 minutes, then the clip from PBS news appears. Watch it for yourself. Quote
Guest Ned Flanders Posted April 6, 2007 Posted April 6, 2007 "Al Dykes" <adykes@panix.com> wrote in message news:ev4jmf$a2i$1@panix5.panix.com... <snip> > But they did. The building was changing shape for hours. No it wasn't. It looked very square all the way to the ground. Now I'm supposed to believe it died like the terminator in Terminator 2. You can believe what you like, but you haven't convinced me. Quote
Guest Ned Flanders Posted April 6, 2007 Posted April 6, 2007 "David Morgan (MAMS)" <findme@m-a-m-s.comC/Odm> wrote in message news:jmkRh.7669$i93.130@trnddc05... > Some 50 of my links to 911 related videos on YouTube went dead this week. > All (from a huge variety of different sources) are flagged, "removed for violation > of terms of service". > > I guess that Gates is taking up where Rumsfeld left off. I don't see why not.... > After all, he was one of the original financiers of Tim Osman (also known as: > Osama bin Laden). Why am I not surprised. Gates has been in bed with the NSA for many years. Quote
Guest Ned Flanders Posted April 6, 2007 Posted April 6, 2007 "David Morgan (MAMS)" <findme@m-a-m-s.comC/Odm> wrote in message news:ObkRh.7666$i93.4319@trnddc05... > > "Ned Flanders" <iknowitsonlyrocknroll@butilikeit> wrote in message... > > Thanks for stepping in and taking up some slack. Thank you David for doing such a fine job yourself. Quote
Guest David Morgan \(MAMS\) Posted April 6, 2007 Posted April 6, 2007 "Ned Flanders" <iknowitsonlyrocknroll@butilikeit> wrote in message news:4615dddc$0$16553$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... > "David Morgan (MAMS)" <findme@m-a-m-s.comC/Odm> wrote in message > news:jmkRh.7669$i93.130@trnddc05... > > Some 50 of my links to 911 related videos on YouTube went dead this week. > > All (from a huge variety of different sources) are flagged, "removed for > > violation of terms of service". > > > > I guess that Gates is taking up where Rumsfeld left off. I don't see why not.... > > After all, he was one of the original financiers of Tim Osman (also known > > as:Osama bin Laden). > Why am I not surprised. > Gates has been in bed with the NSA for many years. Who better to oversee the University that houses the "Bush Presidential Library"? He should have stayed there in pleasant retirement from his previous government service. I honestly don't think he's as 'dingy' as Rummy... but he's got a lot more experience in America's 'colorful' and historic dealings with the middle east. ____________________________________ Remember this one? http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article12060.htm Quote
Guest David Morgan \(MAMS\) Posted April 6, 2007 Posted April 6, 2007 "Ned Flanders" <iknowitsonlyrocknroll@butilikeit> wrote in message news:4615dc8e$0$9775$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... > > "Vandar" <vandar69@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:sEkRh.6169$B25.3892@news01.roc.ny... > > Ned Flanders wrote: > > > > > Silverstein claimed on TV that, "a decision was made to ~pull~ the > > > building". > > That's a lie. Here are the relevant portions, isolated for convenience: Read it quoted : http://www.vestigialconscience.com/PullIt.html Hear it said : http://www.vestigialconscience.com/PullIt.mp3 Watch him say it : http://www.vestigialconscience.com/pullit.mpg Hear the key word again : http://www.vestigialconscience.com/PullIt2.mp3 > Why not spend a few minutes watching the footage? > You can see Larry Silverstien himself say it. Get a copy > of 'Martial Law' by Alex Jones and fastforward the first > 53 minutes, then the clip from PBS news appears. > Watch it for yourself. You're asking the wrong person. Al Dykes is a typical bozo.... Vandar is a shill name, known for posting pundit disinformation on alt.conspiracy at any given time spanning any 24-hour period. FWIW, I don't see either of these clowns any longer and haven't for well over a year. I have no idea what the latter is doing on any of these groups unless he's scouting for me... I post with my real name. The former is a fundamentalist Christian, which at least gives him the excuse of being brainwashed. Avoid Vandar like the plague. Quote
Guest Ned Flanders Posted April 6, 2007 Posted April 6, 2007 "David Morgan (MAMS)" <findme@m-a-m-s.comC/Odm> wrote in message news:kslRh.5895$F%1.4149@trnddc01... <slash> > Who better to oversee the University that houses the "Bush Presidential > Library"? He should have stayed there in pleasant retirement from his > previous government service. I honestly don't think he's as 'dingy' as > Rummy... but he's got a lot more experience in America's 'colorful' and > historic dealings with the middle east. > > ____________________________________ > > Remember this one? > > http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article12060.htm Bush and his handlers hate free speech. It shines a light into their darkness, like bugs under a heavy rock they cant stand such light. They want to stop it, least it expose their evil. Quote
Guest Ned Flanders Posted April 6, 2007 Posted April 6, 2007 "David Morgan (MAMS)" <findme@m-a-m-s.comC/Odm> wrote in message news:kslRh.5895$F%1.4149@trnddc01... <snip> > Remember this one? > > http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article12060.htm Here's a quote from the above article: "The War Department is planning to insert itself into every area of the Internet from blogs to chat rooms, from leftist web sites to editorial commentary. Their rapid response team will be on hair-trigger alert to dispute any tidbit of information that challenges the official storyline." I wonder if the shills on this thread are paid by the government...? Quote
Guest Roger Posted April 6, 2007 Posted April 6, 2007 "David Morgan (MAMS)" <findme@m-a-m-s.comC/Odm> wrote in message news:AqkRh.7671$i93.568@trnddc05... > > "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:46155a64$0$21074$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >> "David Morgan (MAMS)" <findme@m-a-m-s.comC/Odm> wrote in message >> news:H7aRh.5818$jZ3.5740@trnddc06... >> > >> > "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> > news:4614ca28$0$9961$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >> > >> >> So? >> > >> > You must be a genuine, American, braindead, Couch-Potato. >> >> Can't answer my question, I see. > > > If you can't figure out that it matters, you don't deserve an answer... > but just for you, here we go again.... http://www.pilotsfor911truth.org/ > > > > > Here... go occupy yourself... ;-) My question was asking for a reason for the significance of one person's opinion. You still haven't answered my question. Seems you didn't even understand it. > > > http://www.911sharethetruth.com/ > > http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/index.html > > http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/Resources.html > > http://www.reopen911.org/ > > http://patriotsquestion911.com/ > > http://www.pilotsfor911truth.org > > http://www.911weknow.com/linkspage.htm > > http://question911.com/links.php > > http://www.flight77.info/ > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Researchers_questioning_the_official_account_of_9/11 > > http://www.answers.com/topic/researchers-questioning-the-official-account-of-9-11 > > http://www.WingTV.net > > http://911truth.org > > http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/Article/Interrogating_9-11_Five_Years_On.html > > http://worldtradecentertruth.com/ > > > 911 FOR THE TRUTH: http://www.911forthetruth.com > > 911 RESEARCH: http://911research.wtc7.net > > The Science: Fires and Buildings: > 911 PHYSICS http://www.physics911.org > > FIREFIGHTERS VS 911 COMMISSION > <http://www.911lies.org/fire_fighters_911_wtc_tapes.html> > > Muslims suspend laws of physics: > http://www.public-action.com/911/jmcm/physics_1.html > http://www.serendipity.li/wot/mslp_ii.htm > > > > Network in Britain and Ireland which agregates the efforts of all those > campaigning > in Europe for 911 truth. http://www.nineeleven.co.uk > > http://www.vestigialconscience.com/ Misc. archived conspiracy evidence > > > > Project for a New American Century Planned Iraq War Long Ago.... > Information Clearing House > http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1665.htm > MSNBC Article: http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6814437 > The Project's Web Site http://www.newamericancentury.org/ > > > 9-11 and the IMPOSSIBLE http://home.comcast.net/~skydrifter/exp.htm > > > The Implosion (so-called 'collapse') of WTC Building 7, coupled with the > absence of substantiating evidence of a 757 crashing into the Pentagon > are probably the biggest government screw-ups. More links to Bldg 7 > and the Pentagon mixed in below. > http://www.911research.wtc7.net/cache/wtc/evidence/usgs_hotspots.html > http://www.wtc7.net/background.html > http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/bbc_wtc7_videos.html > > > EXPLOSIVES?? > http://69.28.73.17/thornarticles/powerdown.html > http://www.nynewsday.com/news/local/manhattan/wtc/ny-nyaler122362178sep12,0,6794009.story > http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/Tower2Pulled.mp3 > http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/Tower1Pulled.mp3 > http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/911.wtc.ann.thompson.cars.wmv > http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/911.wtc.secondary.explosions.jeffrey.beatty.wmv > http://www.lewrockwell.com/reynolds/reynolds12.html > http://www.arcticbeacon.com/articles/article/1518131/28031.htm > > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8172271955308136871 > > > The World Trade Center Demolition and the So-Called War on Terrorism > http://www.serendipity.li/wtc.htm > > > > News and Resources on 9/11: > > 911 ONLINE RESEARCH http://www.cooperativeresearch.org > > 911 REVIEW http://www.911review.org (available in multiple languages) > > 911 TRUTH Los Angeles http://www.911truthla.us > > 9/11 VISIBILITY PROJECT National Campaign Center > http://www.septembereleventh.org > > American Free Press: http://www.americanfreepress.net/ > > KILLTOWN 911 REVIEW http://killtown.911review.org > > Karl W. B. Schwarz - Online Journal - Great Source on Financial Basis for > 9/11 > http://onlinejournal.com/ > > PORTLAND INDEPENDENT MEDIA CENTER http://portland.indymedia.org > > UNANSWERED QUESTIONS http://www.unansweredquestions.org > > INTERNATIONAL CITIZEN'S INQUIRY INTO 9/11 http://www.911inquiry.org > > PETITION OF SOLIDARITY http://justicefor911.org > > "WHAT FAILED" -On Plague Puppy: > http://www.plaguepuppy.net/public_html/Confronting%20the%20Evidence/what_failed_and_how.htm > > Conspiracy News Net http://www.conspiracynewsnet.com/ > > http://www.whatreallyhappened.com > > http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/ > > Hijacking Catastophe - http://207.44.245.159/article6895.htm > > Black Boxes coverup http://globalresearch.ca/articles/BUN410B.html > > > Failure to defend America: (more of Paul Thompson's Timeline) > http://www.billstclair.com/911timeline/main/essayairdefense.html > http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0306/S00031.htm > > > 9-11 Motivation > http://www.antiwar.com/orig/utley7.html > > > 911: Coincidence Theory > The Coincidence Theorist's Guide to 9/11 > http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/archive/scoop/stories/60/5a/200408231012.3bb72110.html > > > Dov Zakheim, Pentagon Comptroller, ran drone plane company. > http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?noframes;read=53486 > > > Craig Hill's New Video: "Treason, Inc." > Craig Hill documents the lies and actions of the Bush adminstration that > amount to treason. > Order here: http://www.hillsenatenow.org/ > > > > Some Alternative News Sites: > > CITIZENS FOR LEGIT GOVERNMENT http://legitgov.org > > MICHAEL RUPPERT'S http://www.fromthewilderness.com > > MARK CRISPIN MILLER'S http://markcrispinmiller.blogspot.com/ > > http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/ > http://www.alternet.org/ > http://www.yellowtimes.org/ > http://www.indymedia.org/en/index.shtml > http://www.antiwar.com > http://www.iraqwar.org/ > http://www.tvnewslies.org/ > http://www.prisonPlanet.com > http://www.Infowars.com > http://www.libertyforum.org > > The Emperors New Clothes http://www.tenc.net/ > > > > Some Conspiracy Theory Sites: > > 911 CITIZEN'S WATCH: http://www.911citizenswatch.org > 911 STRIKE http://www.911-strike.com > 911 SKEPTICS UNITE http://911skeptics.blogspot.com > 911 SHARE THE TRUTH http://www.911sharethetruth.com > PROPOSITION 911 http://www.proposition911.org > SCOTT LEDGER'S TRUTH SITE: http://www.scottledger.com > > > Scientific Evidence that Official 9/11 Story is a Lie > http://www.ditrianum.org/Artikelen/artikel33en.htm > > > Videos and Media: > > 911 BUSTERS http://www.911busters.com > http://www.911busters.com/911-Commission.html > > DOWNLOAD VIDEOS HERE: http://question911.com/links.php > > SNOWSHOE DOCUMENTARY FILMS http://www.snowshoefilms.com/911coverup.html > > Watch the movie 'September 11 Revisited' online at http://www.twf.org -- > click on > link in left hand column; or see: http://www.911revisited.com/ > > 911 TRUTH RADIO http://www.911truthradio.com > > VIDEO ANALYSIS BY ALEX JONES: > WTC7 - THE HIDDEN STORY OF BUILDING: 7 http://www.wtc7.net > > IN PLANE SITE: http://www.911inplanesite.com > > LOOSE CHANGE: http://www.loosechange911.com/ > > http://www.wtc7.net/videos.html > http://www.911busters.com > http://www.libertybound.com > http://www.infowars.com/videos.html#MOT > http://www.infowars.com/videos.html > http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3995.htm > http://www.globalresearch.ca/globaloutlook/coverup.html > http://www.innworldreport.net > http://www.911truthbristol.com/videos/films.html > http://www.911tv.org > > > THE POWER OF NIGHTMARES > Part One - 59 Minutes > <http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8217638438978899371> > Part Two - 59 Minutes > <http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2839463332690200955> > Part Three - 59 Minutes > <http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3649090417189127240> > > "EagarBeavers and Faulty Towers" > http://www.plaguepuppy.net/public_html/Confronting%20the%20Evidence/what_failed_and_how.htm > > Webster Tarpley audio interview (low bit rate... easy to stream on > dial-up) > http://www.cloakanddagger.de/shows/webcast/_Tarpley_/CLOAK_TARPLEYNOV14.mp3 > > > > > 9/11 VISIBILITY PROJECT National Campaign Center: > http://www.septembereleventh.org > > NEW YORK 9/11 Truth: http://www.summeroftruth.org > or http://www.ny911truth.org > > Hot Politics - By Owen Whitman > Libertarian website with many 9/11 and Iraq War articles. > http://www.hotpolitics.com > > > > > PENTAGON > Until the wall collapsed, the hole in the Pentagon was a 17 ft circle > (approximately) > which penetrated 6 steel-reinforced concrete walls... directly into the > newly beefed-up > (structurally remodeled) area which was temporarily housing the NIS, who > were then > investigating the $2.3 TRILLION dollars in MISSING Pentagon funds. An > issue, that > like Enron, was immediately dropped from the news and swept under the > carpet. > Any public evidence of bodies or aircraft wreckage from the Pentagon is > virtually > non-existant. > http://judicial-inc.biz/pentagon_flight.htm > http://www.apfn.org/apfn/flight77.htm > http://0911.site.voila.fr/ > http://0911.site.voila.fr/index11.htm > http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/pentagone/erreurs_en.htm > http://www.loosechange911.com/pentagon.htm > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1907955.stm > http://www.thepowerhour.com/911_analysis/pentagon-911.htm > http://www.serendipity.li/wtc3.htm > http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/pentagon.html > http://judicial-inc.biz/Dov_Zakheim_Fl_77.htm > http://www.amics21.com/911/pentagon.html > http://www.wanttoknow.info/911information > http://www.PentagonResearch.com > > > Thierry Meyssan, Original French Author Exposing the possible Pentagon > Hoax http://www.pentagate.info/sommaire-en.html -- his website recently > has been closed, but early news (April, 2002) of this Frenchman's book on > the 'alleged' Pentagon crash is here... > http://www.nationalreview.com/robbins/robbins040902.asp > (Now you know why we had "freedom fries" for so long) > > > 911 SEISMIC DATA: > Seismic data was, of course, COMPLETELY OMITTED from both NIST and FEMA > reports. > http://www.rense.com/general67/forensic.htm > http://uscrisis.lege.net/911/ > http://anderson.ath.cx:8000/911/hj07.html > <2002> http://www.rense.com/general28/ioff.htm > http://911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/guardian2/wtc/seismic/WTC_LDEO_KIM.htm > http://911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/guardian2/wtc/seismic/WTC_PENT_KIM.htm > http://www.mgs.md.gov/esic/publications/download/911pentagon.pdf > > > More on flight 93 > http://killtown.911review.org/htb2.html > http://letsroll911.org/phpwebsite/index.php?module=announce&ANN_user_op=view&ANN_id=34 > > > THE 911 OSAMA CONFESSION TAPE... > Have you asked yourself the same question regarding the > original Osama / 911 'confession' tape? A small child > could determine that this was completely faked. > http://www.viewzone.com/osama.html > http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osamatape.html > http://www.mujca.com/osama.htm > http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/farenheit911michaelmoore.html > http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/realityzone/UFNOsamatapefake.htm > http://tim.2wgroup.com/blog/archives/001006.html > http://www.freedomisforeverybody.org/Osama%20bin%20CIA%20Agent.php?id=1521491 > http://www.aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_ID=11633 > http://www.ilaam.net/Sept11/TapeIsFraud.html > > > Current Osama Info: > http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=SCH20060601&articleId=2555 > http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=15490 > http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=4592 > http://educate-yourself.org/cn/osamafakedtape30may06.shtml > http://www.rebelwarez.com/rebelblog/2006/09/08/bin-laden-tape-betrays-phony-hijacker-contradiction/ > http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/PressRelease28May2006.html > http://www.williambowles.info/spysrus/osama_fake.html > http://www.ilaam.net/Sept11/TapeIsFraud.html > http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=76&contentid=413&page=2 > > ON bin LADEN... > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8853000/site/newsweek/ > http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/030804fa_fact > http://www.usatoday.com/news/sept11/2002/02/05/usat-binladen-frustration.htm > http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7932.shtml > http://www.rinf.com/columnists/news/cia-operative-says-bush-military-leaders-let-bin-laden-escape > http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/03/24/pentagon.binladen/index.html > http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/FJ26Ag01.html > http://www.infowars.com/articles/iraq/let_laden_escape.htm > http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A62618-2002Apr16¬Found=true > http://www.oilempire.us/bushbinladen.html > > > ON ZARQARI ... > http://www.taylormarsh.com/archives_view.php?id=2301 > http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/us-allowed-zarqawi-to-escape/2006/04/30/1146335608444.html > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/trey-ellis/who-will-finally-explain-_b_7585.html > http://mediamatters.org/items/200410270007 > http://www.democrats.com/zarqawi > http://www.juancole.com/2005/12/one-that-got-away-cnn-is-reporting.html > > > Where does GWB fit in? http://www.bushdid911.org > > > WERE THE BUSH AND BinLADEN FAMILIES IN BUSINESS TOGETHER? > http://www.oilempire.us/bush-binladen.html > http://www.bushwatch.com/bushmoney.htm > http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/conspiracytheories/saudi.html > http://www.hereinreality.com/carlyle.html > http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/articleshow?art_id=1030259305 > http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=971322003 > http://tvnewslies.org/html/bin_laden_ties.html > http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/09_18_01_bushbin.html > http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/10_09_01_carlyle.html > http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/ > http://www.judicialwatch.org/1685.shtml > http://www.rense.com/general14/bushsformer.htm > http://www.prisonplanet.com/bin_laden_family_link_to_bush.html > http://www.inthesetimes.com/issue/25/25/feature3.shtml > http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/WAL110A.html > http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?011112fa_FACT3 > http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3308.htm > http://www.thedubyareport.com/bushbin.html > http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0111-01.htm > http://martiallaw911.info/archive/0-26-39.htm > http://dir.salon.com/story/books/feature/2004/03/11/unger_1/index.html > > > OLDER BUSH'S - doing business with Germany in WW-II > Dial-up: > http://70.84.33.210/%7Einfomedi/video/previews/150305martialpreview_mdm.wmv > DSL: > http://70.84.33.210/%7Einfomedi/video/previews/150305martialpreview.wmv > > > > The Presidential "Signing Statement" dictatorship... > > http://www.abanet.org/media/releases/news072406.html > http://www.fff.org/comment/com0610c.asp > http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20060113.html > http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/signingstatements.php > http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/060721/21signing.htm > http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/07/25/dobbs.july26/index.html > http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1149361,00.htm > http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/04/30/bush_challenges_hundreds_of_laws/ > http://www.coherentbabble.com/signingstatements/TOCindex.htm > http://www.fff.org/comment/com0610c.asp > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/27/AR2006062700145.html > http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,1828114,00.html?gusrc=rss > http://www.antiwar.com/ips/fisher.php?articleid=9222 > http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2007/02/13/the-signing-statement-dictatorship/ > > And over one million more.... > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=George+Bush%2C+signing+statements&btnG=Google+Search > > > > "National Security Letters" (gag orders) silence patriots, courts, media > & business > as they pry into America's private side. > > http://www.techlawjournal.com/topstories/2005/20050824a.asp > http://writ.news.findlaw.com/ramasastry/20060109.html > http://www.aclu.org/safefree/nationalsecurityletters/index.html > http://www.aclu.org/safefree/patriot/17458res20040929.html > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/05/AR2005110501366.html > http://reclaimdemocracy.org/articles_2004/national_security_letters.html > http://www.sptimes.com/2005/11/13/Columns/National_security_let.shtml > http://leahy.senate.gov/press/200512/120805.html > > And over 67 Million more.... > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=National+security+letter&btnG=Google+Search > > > > > THE BOGUS FEMA AND NIST INVESTIGATIONS... > This is the largest cover-up in American history, from a panel comprised > mostly > of Bush cabinet cronies with too many conflicting interests to be taken > seriously. > Who themselves, complain that there was too little money, too little time, > and too > much "pressure" to complete the report with enough accuracy. It's based > on > assumptions and contains overtly false information, and failed to answer > the > questions which when finally raised legally, forced the government to > appoint > the team... but long after the country was at was and the 911 evidence > removed. > http://vancouver.indymedia.org/?q=node/1634 > http://911research.wtc7.net/resources/books/index.html > http://www.septembereleventh.org/ > http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2006/911-WTC-NIST-Lies30mar06.htm > http://www.911review.com/coverup/nist.html > http://visibility911.libsyn.com/ > http://www.answers.com/topic/researchers-questioning-the-official-account-of-9-11 > http://www.organicconsumers.org/politics/911012306.cfm > http://www.justicefor911.org/Contents_and_Evidence_111904.php > http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/print_friendly.php?p=opedne_sheila_s_060329_9_2f11____eliminating_.htm > http://www.911citizenswatch.org/print.php?sid=895 > http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041221155307646 > http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20060405143535564 > http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/Article/Interrogating_9-11_Five_Years_On.html > http://forum.physorg.com/index.php?showtopic=4418&st=2040 > http://forum.physorg.com/index.php?showtopic=4418&st=2010 > http://worldtradecentertruth.com/Article_1_Ryan5.pdf#search=%22NIST%20report%20on%20911%2C%20Omissions%20and%20distortions%22 > http://www.vtcommons.org/node/190 > http://www.tpmcafe.com/node/28070 > http://911smokingguns.com/ > http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=21137 > > > > > VOTE FRAUD > Vote Fraud MSNBC Video 2004 - > http://www.vestigialconscience.com/5.countdown_56k.mov > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_U.S._presidential_election_controversy_and_irregularities > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_United_States_presidential_election_controversy%2C_exit_polls > http://nightweed.com/usavotefacts.html > http://www.blackboxvoting.org > http://www.alternet.org/bloggers/evan/40755/ > http://itpolicy.princeton.edu/voting/summary.html > http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/2004votefraud.html > http://vote2004.eriposte.com/ > http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2004/031104votefraud.htm > http://www.votersunite.org/electionproblems.asp > http://www.ideamouth.com/voterfraud.htm > http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/2004_vote_fraud.html > http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election_stolen > http://www.projectcensored.org/newsflash/voter_fraud.html > http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0411/S00124.htm > http://www.legitgov.org/coup_2004.html > http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/122404X.shtml > http://www.thewe.cc/contents/more/archive/united_states_voting_procedures.html > http://www.seminolechronicle.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2004/12/16/41c2fdb042ea1 > Video / Bev Harris - http://prisonplanet.tv/audio/041104harris.htm > http://www.counterpunch.org/swanson11082004.html > http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1118-22.htm > http://www.tvnewslies.org/html/election_2004.html > http://www.epionline.org/news_detail.cfm?rid=84 > http://www.truthinvoting.org/ > http://blackvoternetwork.com/votefraud.htm > http://www.flcv.com/fraudpat.html > http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/110504Chin/110504chin.html > > More links at http://www.squadron13.com/JackDresser/electionfraud.htm > And at bottom... http://www.pamrotella.com/polhist/elections2004.html > > "We cannot accept this result as legitimate, because it does not > meet > international standards. We call for a full review of the conduct > of the > election and the tallying." --Colin Powell on the 2004 election > > > Outraged republican moderates: > http://www.outragedmoderates.org/Page4.html > > > Who in current government served their nation in combat? > http://www.awolbush.com/ > http://www.awolbush.com/cheney.html > http://www.awolbush.com/whoserved.html > http://www.democrats.com/display.cfm?id=165 > http://www.rackjite.com/chawks.htm > http://www.houstonpress.com/issues/1999-01-07/columns2.html/1/index.html > > > > MEDIA CONTROL > 5 companies (well, 6 really) control ALL of the media you see or hear > in the United States. Each of these makes so much money that > there is little chance of them hurting. You can view the information > on the controlling interests below. These are tough times in America > and many things about media (like conglomerates and control) seriously > need to be fixed, so that this country isn't jointly spoon fed the lies > which > could lead to it's demise. > > http://www.nowfoundation.org/issues/communications/tv/mediacontrol.html > > > > ILLUMINATI... (Also referred to as: "The New World Order") > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati > http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/illuminatiagendabestoverviewyet8jun02.shtml > http://www.rotten.com/library/conspiracy/illuminati/ > http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Illuminati.htm > http://www.geocities.com/francis_uy/halliburton.html > http://skepdic.com/illuminati.html > http://www.mysteries-megasite.com/main/bigsearch/luminati.html > http://poweredbychrist.homestead.com/files/bush/rituals.htm > 'Illuminati' has been a part of world history for centuries and is > highly threatening to a peaceful humanity. > > > > Casual commentary style reporting from March 28, 2006 > "Eliminating the Impossible" By Sheila Samples > http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/print_friendly.php?p=opedne_sheila_s_060329_9_2f11____eliminating_.htm > > > > > > > > > Quote
Guest David Morgan \(MAMS\) Posted April 6, 2007 Posted April 6, 2007 "Ned Flanders" <iknowitsonlyrocknroll@butilikeit> wrote in message news:4615e6ee$0$16558$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... > > "David Morgan (MAMS)" <findme@m-a-m-s.comC/Odm> wrote in message > news:kslRh.5895$F%1.4149@trnddc01... > > <snip> > > > Remember this one? > > > > http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article12060.htm > > > Here's a quote from the above article: > > "The War Department is planning to insert itself into every area of the > Internet from blogs to chat rooms, from leftist web sites to editorial > commentary. Their rapid response team will be on hair-trigger alert to > dispute any tidbit of information that challenges the official storyline." > > I wonder if the shills on this thread are paid by the government...? There is one recent entry that is highly suspect. Quote
Guest David Morgan \(MAMS\) Posted April 6, 2007 Posted April 6, 2007 "Ned Flanders" <iknowitsonlyrocknroll@butilikeit> wrote in message news:4615e660$0$5746$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... > > "David Morgan (MAMS)" <findme@m-a-m-s.comC/Odm> wrote in message > news:kslRh.5895$F%1.4149@trnddc01... > > <slash> > > > > Who better to oversee the University that houses the "Bush Presidential > > Library"? He should have stayed there in pleasant retirement from his > > previous government service. I honestly don't think he's as 'dingy' as > > Rummy... but he's got a lot more experience in America's 'colorful' and > > historic dealings with the middle east. > > > > ____________________________________ > > > > Remember this one? > > > > http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article12060.htm > > Bush and his handlers hate free speech. It shines a light > into their darkness, like bugs under a heavy rock they cant > stand such light. May I ask where you are posting from? I feel that this 5-way crossposting should come to an end soon. Quote
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