tizz Posted October 14, 2005 Posted October 14, 2005 I answered the question before it was asked. I am not looking to justify my beliefes for anyone. I was simply trying to offer a little truth to bypass misconception. I am not in the mood to argue it. I am turning the other cheek Quote "An intelligence that is not humane is the most dangerous thing in the world" Ashley Montague "No one should have to walk alone" Phuong Du "An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind" Ghandi "If I were asked to define an American in a single phrase, I would say 'An American is a person who has the right to be different' and I think that right is growing" William Manchester
Lethalfind Posted October 18, 2005 Author Posted October 18, 2005 Websters Tenth Edition states Pacifism: Opposition to war or violence as a means of settling disputes; specifically: refusal to bear arms on moral or religious grounds: An attitude or policy of nonresistance. Interesting but that leaves me wondering what does a pacifist think we should do if an attempt has been made to settle a dispute diplomatically and has failed. What if lives are in danger, what if a thousand things? Are we supposed to sit here and take all the shit that is handed to us?? Quote I am a pathetic piece of shit leeching single mom.
tizz Posted October 18, 2005 Posted October 18, 2005 Well, if REAL diplomacy and not the almighty buck is ever used, we'll see what happens IF it fail. A pacifist may take the road of LEAST resistence but that does not mean they will lie down in the road to be smooshed like a brain dead squirrel. Quote "An intelligence that is not humane is the most dangerous thing in the world" Ashley Montague "No one should have to walk alone" Phuong Du "An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind" Ghandi "If I were asked to define an American in a single phrase, I would say 'An American is a person who has the right to be different' and I think that right is growing" William Manchester
Lethalfind Posted October 18, 2005 Author Posted October 18, 2005 thats what I was thinking, does America use Diplomacy or a pissing contest... Quote I am a pathetic piece of shit leeching single mom.
Humchuckninny Posted October 18, 2005 Posted October 18, 2005 I think you can only apply pascifism to greater conflicts, and not to "trivial" things on a personal level. To me, pascifism is suicide. Quote
tizz Posted October 18, 2005 Posted October 18, 2005 To be a pacifist you must first be an optimist Quote "An intelligence that is not humane is the most dangerous thing in the world" Ashley Montague "No one should have to walk alone" Phuong Du "An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind" Ghandi "If I were asked to define an American in a single phrase, I would say 'An American is a person who has the right to be different' and I think that right is growing" William Manchester
tizz Posted October 18, 2005 Posted October 18, 2005 I think you can only apply pascifism to greater conflicts, and not to "trivial" things on a personal level. To me, pascifism is suicide. If you do not attempt to use pacifism in the smallest of conflicts you will never gain the experience to use it when it really counts. Like with everything else in life, it takes hard work and practice and more than a few failures Quote "An intelligence that is not humane is the most dangerous thing in the world" Ashley Montague "No one should have to walk alone" Phuong Du "An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind" Ghandi "If I were asked to define an American in a single phrase, I would say 'An American is a person who has the right to be different' and I think that right is growing" William Manchester
Lethalfind Posted October 19, 2005 Author Posted October 19, 2005 Again, I am speaking as someone who is not sure of what it is to really live like this but it would seem that if your a pacifist you would use this approach in any type of conflict when posible. There has to be a differance in someone who is a pacifist and someone who is suicidal however. My Father was a minister (gasp from the audience) and he really practiced the turn the other cheek in his daily life. He didn't hold peoples past transcretions against them either. He was far from perfect but he did live what he believed to the best of his ability. Quote I am a pathetic piece of shit leeching single mom.
Humchuckninny Posted October 19, 2005 Posted October 19, 2005 Not necissarily that pascifism and suicide are synonyms, but more that if you are a pascifist you would welcome death before defending yourself. If you're able to prevent your own death, and you do not, then I would consider that suicide. I'm not sure how many true pascifists would survive to greater conflicts. It seems like most of them would be dead before they got past most of the smaller ones. Quote
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