Symbol of my religion--and yours

[Silver_dragon87]

As today I walked past the--to my eyes--lurid cross in the upstairs hallway at least a dozen times, I'd like to leave a brief (hopefully ) post about what pisses me off today. Simply put, I'm sick if being assaulted by the symbol of Christianity and, to tell the truth, all religion. Though as you already know I don't find that other religions flaunt themselves as shamelessly as the aforementioned Christians. Anyway, it's really starting to piss me off. It's fucking everywhere. And not just in the forms of crosses--on the walls, around the necks of sheep (forgive my insults if you wouldn't mind; this is a rant and I'm venting so I'm not as polite as I probably should be)--but also in the lyrics of the monotonous wailing of the country music these Albertans seem to enjoy. In the speeches of actors, in the hopes of boobs on the news, every, pardon the pun, goddamn place I look.

 

Even just to cover the tiny subject of crosses--if it's so dear to you, so special, such a part of your life that you don't need any validation because you know you're on the right path, why the fuck do you have to rub it in everyone's face? Why are Christians so arrogant in themselves that they feel they must display their 'right path' wherever they go? Is there not something more intimate about tucking it UNDER your shirt, thereby keeping it closer to you blah blah blah?

 

If you knew me, which you don't and won't, you might know that I wear the symbol of MY religion for all to see. I do this for a few reasons: to freak out the Christians here who think it's a symbol of 'witchcraft and Satan' and demons and other such nonsense, and as a big 'fuck you' to all said Christians. If they want to play the rub-it-in-your-nose game, I will to. I also do it because it's a very bitchin' ruby red.

 

Anyway, this is what pisses me off today. Everything in this province at least is hijacked by Christianity--and as I write this I find, in fact, that I'd be GLAD for another religion to take its place. I would be more than happy to hear MORE about Islam and Judaism and, even more so, Buddhism (your God forbid we should spread a message of peace and serenity) or any other less popular, more difficult, more spiritual, less full of shit religion. I'm sick of it--take your Jesus and shove him; I don't give a damn. Stop trying to save my soul; it doesn't need your charity! Christ on a crutch!

 

..........Yeah. So that's what's annoying me today. Don't like it, TS, because I can be pissed off by whatever I wish to be pissed off by. And I know this will start a veritable festival of the slinging of the shit, so have at thee, have at me, have at whatever the fuck you want. I'm pissed, you should be pissed too.

[phreakwars]

Just do like I do and practice Diesm, Christianity tends to make me ill.

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[EnterNetProphet]

Nice to hear your still breathing fire SD(as usual) hahahahaha

[builder]

Christianity=idolatry=sin.

 

Catholicism=paganism=profit.

 

Deism=symbolism=cognitive conciousness.

 

Buddhism=peaceful contemplation=serenity.

[smutt butt]

As today I walked past the--to my eyes--lurid cross in the upstairs hallway at least a dozen times, I'd like to leave a brief (hopefully ) post about what pisses me off today. Simply put, I'm sick if being assaulted by the symbol of Christianity and, to tell the truth, all religion. Though as you already know I don't find that other religions flaunt themselves as shamelessly as the aforementioned Christians. Anyway, it's really starting to piss me off. It's fucking everywhere. And not just in the forms of crosses--on the walls, around the necks of sheep (forgive my insults if you wouldn't mind; this is a rant and I'm venting so I'm not as polite as I probably should be)--but also in the lyrics of the monotonous wailing of the country music these Albertans seem to enjoy. In the speeches of actors, in the hopes of boobs on the news, every, pardon the pun, goddamn place I look.

 

Even just to cover the tiny subject of crosses--if it's so dear to you, so special, such a part of your life that you don't need any validation because you know you're on the right path, why the fuck do you have to rub it in everyone's face? Why are Christians so arrogant in themselves that they feel they must display their 'right path' wherever they go? Is there not something more intimate about tucking it UNDER your shirt, thereby keeping it closer to you blah blah blah?

 

If you knew me, which you don't and won't, you might know that I wear the symbol of MY religion for all to see. I do this for a few reasons: to freak out the Christians here who think it's a symbol of 'witchcraft and Satan' and demons and other such nonsense, and as a big 'fuck you' to all said Christians. If they want to play the rub-it-in-your-nose game, I will to. I also do it because it's a very bitchin' ruby red.

 

Anyway, this is what pisses me off today. Everything in this province at least is hijacked by Christianity--and as I write this I find, in fact, that I'd be GLAD for another religion to take its place. I would be more than happy to hear MORE about Islam and Judaism and, even more so, Buddhism (your God forbid we should spread a message of peace and serenity) or any other less popular, more difficult, more spiritual, less full of shit religion. I'm sick of it--take your Jesus and shove him; I don't give a damn. Stop trying to save my soul; it doesn't need your charity! Christ on a crutch!

 

..........Yeah. So that's what's annoying me today. Don't like it, TS, because I can be pissed off by whatever I wish to be pissed off by. And I know this will start a veritable festival of the slinging of the shit, so have at thee, have at me, have at whatever the fuck you want. I'm pissed, you should be pissed too.

 

at least you don't have worry about someone coming out of a church with a bomb strapped to themselves.

[chartreusechick]

If you knew me, which you don't and won't, you might know that I wear the symbol of MY religion for all to see. I do this for a few reasons: to freak out the Christians here who think it's a symbol of 'witchcraft and Satan' and demons and other such nonsense, and as a big 'fuck you' to all said Christians. If they want to play the rub-it-in-your-nose game, I will to. I also do it because it's a very bitchin' ruby red.

 

 

Where the hell have I been?! I thought you were an atheist! What are you?

[Silver_dragon87]

I am an atheist--an atheist pagan. Just because I don't worship any divine being doesn't mean I don't have a religion, technically. Pagans are an assorted group who basically don't fall under any other religion--we can be atheists if we wish to be. Though you could say that I DO worship a divine force, that being nature, which we are outside of. At any rate, you're not reading things--I AM an atheist, but also a pagan. Hence, when they see the star, Christians chuck a spaz and cry witchcraft. Most irritating.

 

PS: builder, how dare you equate catholicism with paganism! I'm genuinely offended. If I had an alter and it were tended by young boys, I most certainly would NOT try to fondle them.

[angie]

For one thing, many people who practice Paganism also practice withcraft. Thus the 'witchcraft' label isn't so far off.

Secondly, isn't being an 'atheist' pagan a bit of an oxymoron?

Atheism is characterized by an absence of belief in the existence of gods. This absence of belief generally comes about either through deliberate choice, or from an inherent inability to believe religious teachings which seem literally incredible. It is not a lack of belief born out of simple ignorance of religious teachings.

Paganism encompasses a belief in multiple deities, or the dual deities. It embraces the masculine and feminine aspect. So do explain, I am completely lost as to how you can be both.

Oh, and Builder has every right to associate Paganism with Catholicism. There are many associations that can be made between Pagan practices/holidays and those of the Catholic Church. The holiday Ostara/Eostre (the celebration of the Vernal Equinox, honors the goddess, and celebrates the rebirth of the Earth) was around long before "Easter"..they fall uncannily close together. Here's a bit of reading for you:

http://www.witchvox.com/va/dt_va.html?a=usma&c=holidays&id=1991

For example, the traditional coloring and giving of eggs at Easter has very pagan associations. For eggs are clearly one of the most potent symbols of fertility, and spring is the season when animals begin to mate and flowers and trees pollinate and reproduce. In England and Northern Europe, eggs were often employed in folk magic when women wanted to be blessed with children. There is a great scene in the film The Wicker Man where a woman sits upon a tombstone in the cemetery, holding a child against her bared breasts with one hand, and holding up an egg in the other, rocking back and forth as she stares at the scandalized (and very uptight!) Sargent Howie. Many cultures have a strong tradition of egg coloring; among Greeks, eggs are traditionally dyed dark red and given as gifts.

[EnterNetProphet]

I am an atheist--an atheist pagan. Just because I don't worship any divine being doesn't mean I don't have a religion, technically. Pagans are an assorted group who basically don't fall under any other religion--we can be atheists if we wish to be. Though you could say that I DO worship a divine force, that being nature, which we are outside of. At any rate, you're not reading things--I AM an atheist, but also a pagan. Hence, when they see the star, Christians chuck a spaz and cry witchcraft. Most irritating.

 

PS: builder, how dare you equate catholicism with paganism! I'm genuinely offended. If I had an alter and it were tended by young boys, I most certainly would NOT try to fondle them.

 

Actually builder is on to something...

 

..so you are an atheist/pagan and you wear a pentagram? just to piss christians off? ...I think you have come to the right forum..hahahahahaha

think positive vibes SD...what you project to the world..gets reflected back (look in the mirror and see what other ppl see)..wear your pentagram with pride if you must...but there must be a sincere reason for wearing it.

 

anyway dragons are suppose to be wise...they have my respect

[chartreusechick]

I am an atheist--an atheist pagan. Just because I don't worship any divine being doesn't mean I don't have a religion, technically. Pagans are an assorted group who basically don't fall under any other religion--we can be atheists if we wish to be. Though you could say that I DO worship a divine force, that being nature, which we are outside of. At any rate, you're not reading things--I AM an atheist, but also a pagan. Hence, when they see the star, Christians chuck a spaz and cry witchcraft. Most irritating.

 

PS: builder, how dare you equate catholicism with paganism! I'm genuinely offended. If I had an alter and it were tended by young boys, I most certainly would NOT try to fondle them.

 

Say what you will, but I still do not understand how you could worship a divine force, be it nature or a god, and still consider yourself an atheist. Would you clarify? I'm not catching on.

[TheJenn88]

As today I walked past the--to my eyes--lurid cross in the upstairs hallway at least a dozen times, I'd like to leave a brief (hopefully ) post about what pisses me off today. Simply put, I'm sick if being assaulted by the symbol of Christianity and, to tell the truth, all religion. Though as you already know I don't find that other religions flaunt themselves as shamelessly as the aforementioned Christians. Anyway, it's really starting to piss me off. It's fucking everywhere. And not just in the forms of crosses--on the walls, around the necks of sheep (forgive my insults if you wouldn't mind; this is a rant and I'm venting so I'm not as polite as I probably should be)--but also in the lyrics of the monotonous wailing of the country music these Albertans seem to enjoy. In the speeches of actors, in the hopes of boobs on the news, every, pardon the pun, goddamn place I look.

 

Even just to cover the tiny subject of crosses--if it's so dear to you, so special, such a part of your life that you don't need any validation because you know you're on the right path, why the fuck do you have to rub it in everyone's face? Why are Christians so arrogant in themselves that they feel they must display their 'right path' wherever they go? Is there not something more intimate about tucking it UNDER your shirt, thereby keeping it closer to you blah blah blah?

 

If you knew me, which you don't and won't, you might know that I wear the symbol of MY religion for all to see. I do this for a few reasons: to freak out the Christians here who think it's a symbol of 'witchcraft and Satan' and demons and other such nonsense, and as a big 'fuck you' to all said Christians. If they want to play the rub-it-in-your-nose game, I will to. I also do it because it's a very bitchin' ruby red.

 

Anyway, this is what pisses me off today. Everything in this province at least is hijacked by Christianity--and as I write this I find, in fact, that I'd be GLAD for another religion to take its place. I would be more than happy to hear MORE about Islam and Judaism and, even more so, Buddhism (your God forbid we should spread a message of peace and serenity) or any other less popular, more difficult, more spiritual, less full of shit religion. I'm sick of it--take your Jesus and shove him; I don't give a damn. Stop trying to save my soul; it doesn't need your charity! Christ on a crutch!

 

..........Yeah. So that's what's annoying me today. Don't like it, TS, because I can be pissed off by whatever I wish to be pissed off by. And I know this will start a veritable festival of the slinging of the shit, so have at thee, have at me, have at whatever the fuck you want. I'm pissed, you should be pissed too.

 

 

Yes, Christianity is leaking under our doors, and wafting through the vents in the school washrooms and causing a reak, yeah.

 

But dude, loosen up! Take comfort that you aren't as dumb as some of those hardcore freaky religious people. Just laugh at the symbols, they don't reach out and bite you. But by all means, if you see a Christian burning a gay, by all means, bite them.

 

Don't worry, be happy. Life is too short to care about petty crutches for man. (again, unless they do something stupendously outrageous)

[RoyalOrleans]

Typical angst-ridden teenage repertoire. You're just upset at the world and would like nothing better than to lash out at folk you don't even know. Perhaps you need a good reality check? Or a strap to the rear end.

 

I went through an entire host of beliefs and theories before I became a card carrying atheist. Nothing is more serene and beneficial than never wondering who made who, who begot what, etc...

 

Man evolved from ape. If you want proof, go down to your local DMV and take a gander at the sad-sacks there.

[angie]

Typical angst-ridden teenage repertoire. You're just upset at the world and would like nothing better than to lash out at folk you don't even know. Perhaps you need a good reality check? Or a strap to the rear end.

 

I went through an entire host of beliefs and theories before I became a card carrying atheist. Nothing is more serene and beneficial than never wondering who made who, who begot what, etc...

 

Man evolved from ape. If you want proof, go down to your local DMV and take a gander at the sad-sacks there.

 

Well, let's not forget she IS a 'pagan' atheist . Which still dumbfounds me.

[RoyalOrleans]

Well, let's not forget she IS a 'pagan' atheist . Which still dumbfounds me.

 

It's like losing your virginity to a scary clown rapist, you shouldn't tell nobody about it.

[ToriAllen]

I am a Christian and a Catholic-in-training (still waiting to be confirmed). I do not push my Religion in others faces, or base every decision I make on what the Church says is correct. I have found it to be very easy to believe in both God and Science. I don

[daisypapaya]

"at least you don't have worry about someone coming out of a church with a bomb strapped to themselves."- I know you're talking about muslims, but what about christian religious zealots who murder doctors in abortion clinics?

[Lethalfind]

Silver, I'm with ya.

When they come to my door handing out their bullshit leaflets, I yell at them to get out of the development because they are not welcome. One time I turned on the sprinkler system so they had to get wet as they ran to the street.

Why do people always assume that I want to hear what they have to say?? I'm an intelligent person, I can read things for myself. I don't have to have some sad, mislead programed person shove it down my throat.

Let me just say for the world that I am immune to all that bullshit having grown up imersed in it. I have heard every angle and don't wish to hear anymore.

Silver, I too look at people and liken them to sheep. They are so programmed to accept all that bullshit on faith that I wonder what color the sky is in their world. We can't be looking at the same sky because I know I see a different world then they do.

[smutt butt]

"at least you don't have worry about someone coming out of a church with a bomb strapped to themselves."- I know you're talking about muslims, but what about christian religious zealots who murder doctors in abortion clinics?

 

how many times a day do you here about someone killing in the name of jesus?

 

how many times a day do you here about some filthy muslim killing other filthy muslims?

 

i'm not even going into killing a so called doctor thing.

[angie]

Tori/Outlaw: I can't speak for everyone, but I know for sure that the atheists I know (personally) are offended by what religion represents, and the people who live by it. We DO believe that religion is a fairy-tale--and are thus offended that people not only allow themselves to be brainwashed by such blatant stupidity, but also insist on rubbing our faced in it! You can't walk down the street without some religion, 99% of the time with reference to Jesus, being thrown in your face. We'd be perfectly happy to let you all live your lives--unlike those "it is my duty to save your soul" fuckers--if you'd live it QUIETLY. Religious people always demand respect for their beliefs--well it'd be nice if we could have some of the same.

 

So...praytell, which one is it? Atheist, or pagan? I'd love to hear this. It ought to be good.

[Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell]

So...praytell, which one is it? Atheist, or pagan? I'd love to hear this. It ought to be good.

She's OBVIOUSLY not an atheist, or she wouldn't be so damn offended by "symbols" ... just like Tori said, she should be as offended by crosses as we are offended by the tooth fairy! ... seeing that crosses offends her, I would say she is very much a NON-Atheist as far as her belief in the supernatural is concerned... I would say she is more agnostic in that she doesn't know what to believe.

 

Can you imagine getting all bent of shape at the sight of santa clause with a bell at walmart just before Christmas? (Thanks Tori, that was the perfect analogy)

[RoyalOrleans]

So...praytell, which one is it? Atheist, or pagan? I'd love to hear this. It ought to be good.

 

If I call someone a gay homosexual, that would be somewhat redundant and cancel each other out. Subsequently making the person a heterosexual.

 

If I call SD87 an atheist-pagan, then that would inevitably makes her a baptist.

[Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell]

If I call someone a gay homosexual, that would be somewhat redundant and cancel each other out. Subsequently making the person a heterosexual.

 

If I call SD87 an atheist-pagan, then that would inevitably makes her a baptist.

I think it would make her an ATTENTION-WHORE!

[Outlaw2747]

Pseudoatheist would be a proper term.

[RoyalOrleans]

I think it would make her an ATTENTION-WHORE!

 

You have a flare for the obvious, MRIH. Tell us something GF doesn't already know.

[eisanbt]

Paganism IS a religion under the contex of worshipping nature. No debine being is NEEDED for a something to be a religion. I believe there is a list posted on one of the fourms here of things that are defined as 'god' (or godly) one of which is nature and an observance for it etc.. You can find secs of christiens who worship nature as god incarnate, heck try reading 'The Dialouges' by Plato it covers that sort of thing (Concerning christienity not Peganism or wicka mind you...) The only no-religion religions really are Buddism/Taoism as they are more philosphies of living and don't concern themselves with a higher power. (In that respect, they are athiests)

 

As for your Alberta situation, GET THE HELL OUT OF THERE! Its the most right-wing religion/nutcase province full of blue steak and rodeos! Hell, Nova Scotia is quite right and you trump the hell out of us. You want a switch-up, hop over to BC or Quebec, smoke some pot and get seduced by seemingly interesting frenchmen!