What is islam?

[Hamza123]

Thats what I mean, terrorists like to dodge the point that the Qu'ran brings up and distort it... Sall good though. You are doing just what the terrorists do in that post,(not sure if you meant it...) just they put it into action... Distorting the sacred words... Good 1. I don't care if it's you, Osama himself, Bush, or the king of Saudi, all these people need a good talking, maybe a slapping for the way they've done things... Of course the rest can get of easy, just not Osama.

 

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Area-51 is to America as Hajj is to Islam.

 

Well, my religion (won't say ) Forbids me to argue over a subject like this if it will make people angry or bring out there bad nature/intentions. I said what I wanted, if I upset you... With all due apologies, I am sorry, but truley, I had to put the truth out there, it's like a leach on your jugular. Don't see me as a terrorist, but as a fellow GF'er. I have absolutely, 100% no intention to hurt anyone with my human nature or religion. Yet it seems otherwise! Regardless if America allowed Islam or not, I wouldn't wish death or any grief upon any of my foes or enemies. Judge me not of what people "like me" have done or said, but judge me of what I have said and my reasons for doing so. Regardless if you follow that motto or not, you're still a human being in my eyes, so I have no right to judge you or categorize you. For example, judge AIG not by what I have said but what she has said, and judge me not by what AIG has said, but what I have said... It's going to be interesting to see what the future unfolds.

[Lethalfind]

lethalfind<----------------Racist Cunt...LOL per AIG anyway.

[snafu]

Hamza123...

And you say your 16 years old?

Pretty good!

I

[Lethalfind]

Hamza, you are parroting the facts that have been force fed you by the leaders of your religion. Anyone (not just Muslims) who are incapable of answering their questions without being led by a religion is lost to common sense and will never be a real value in life.

 

You need to be able to stand on your own two feet, if your religion dissappeared tomorrow, who would you be??

 

I was raised Christian, if they dissappeared tomorrow, I would be the same bitch I am right now, only a little relieved that they won't be coming to my door anymore with pamphlets. Its like there is some central registry for backsliders that has my name on it and every sad fuckin act around comes by because they think I haven't heard what they have said...If I had a big dog, I think I would set him loose on them.

[Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell]

Hamza,

 

You are basically the same lying sack of shit that the rest of the islamic appoligists are. Your pig-shit book (aka, the koran, aka, the q'ran) is chalk full of blood-thirsty death and carnage. The posts are numerous, and for everyone of you shit-bag followers of the pedophile jin-fucking prophet(may piss and excrement be upon him) I have had to post them over and over again.

 

Do yourself a favor and LEAVE that pig-shit demonic ideology before it is too late...

 

Contrary to the islamic appologists rantings, I DO NOT hate muslims. but I do in fact hate ISLAM. The world would be so much better off without it!

[builder]

You're an absolute cock, and your post proves that point entirlely.

 

You are basically the same lying sack of shit that the rest of the islamic appoligists are. Your pig-shit book (aka, the koran, aka, the q'ran) is chalk full of blood-thirsty death and carnage. The posts are numerous, and for everyone of you shit-bag followers of the pedophile jin-fucking prophet(may piss and excrement be upon him) I have had to post them over and over again.

 

Do yourself a favor and LEAVE that pig-shit demonic ideology before it is too late...

 

Contrary to the islamic appologists rantings, I DO NOT hate muslims. but I do in fact hate ISLAM. The world would be so much better off without it!

[Lethalfind]

One of the choices was Islam is Gods Will...

 

I have an honest question I should post in another thread.

Are you sure God has a will for us?

[Hamza123]

Hamza,

 

You are basically the same lying sack of shit that the rest of the islamic appoligists are. Your pig-shit book (aka, the koran, aka, the q'ran) is chalk full of blood-thirsty death and carnage. The posts are numerous, and for everyone of you shit-bag followers of the pedophile jin-fucking prophet(may piss and excrement be upon him) I have had to post them over and over again.

 

Do yourself a favor and LEAVE that pig-shit demonic ideology before it is too late...

 

Contrary to the islamic appologists rantings, I DO NOT hate muslims. but I do in fact hate ISLAM. The world would be so much better off without it!

 

An unbiased examination of Prophet's life and his marriages to his wives blatantly rejects the notion of his lifestyle fitting that of a paedophile. All his brides were aged widows. The Qu'ran strongly subjects away INCORRECT and man made (partiuclarily western) Hadiths that tell lies about Aisha and Abu Bakr, and Muhammed (PBUH)

 

 

You're christian right? Your words and attacks defy Christianity...

 

I DO NOT hate muslims.

 

Pfffft... You contradict yourself?

 

You are basically the same lying sack of shit that the rest of the islamic appoligists are.

 

I don't attack anyone at all... I have put up a defense for my religion and I get... Well let this be a debate... I hope this won't change any out of this topic relations.

 

Lethal, with or without these people to this day right now, I would still be a Muslim, but If I was raised in a Christian or Jewish family than of course, I would be in either religion. Islam wasn't forced on me. I could convert for all I care. Our family is Lebanese and it's pretty big. My Uncle is a christian yet the family loves him and he loves us just as if he were a Muslim. Once again, I am not critisizing any of you, only trying to clear mis-conceptions...Yet I am being attacked... Just goes to show you who is wrong.

 

If you would like to find out about the Prophet Muhammed's great history please visit. http://www.islamonline.net/English/In_Depth/mohamed/1424/index.shtml

[Hamza123]

Hamza123...

And you say your 16 years old?

Pretty good!

I

[Lethalfind]

An unbiased examination of Prophet's life and his marriages to his wives blatantly rejects the notion of his lifestyle fitting that of a paedophile. All his brides were aged widows. The Qu'ran strongly subjects away INCORRECT and man made (partiuclarily western) Hadiths that tell lies about Aisha and Abu Bakr, and Muhammed (PBUH)

 

 

You're christian right? Your words and attacks defy Christianity...

 

 

 

Pfffft... You contradict yourself?

 

 

 

I don't attack anyone at all... I have put up a defense for my religion and I get... Well let this be a debate... I hope this won't change any out of this topic relations.

 

Lethal, with or without these people to this day right now, I would still be a Muslim, but If I was raised in a Christian or Jewish family than of course, I would be in either religion. Islam wasn't forced on me. I could convert for all I care. Our family is Lebanese and it's pretty big. My Uncle is a christian yet the family loves him and he loves us just as if he were a Muslim. Once again, I am not critisizing any of you, only trying to clear mis-conceptions...Yet I am being attacked... Just goes to show you who is wrong.

 

If you would like to find out about the Prophet Muhammed's great history please visit. http://www.islamonline.net/English/In_Depth/mohamed/1424/index.shtml

 

I am not a Christian. I am not religious. Please think whatever you want of me, I'm a bitch, racist whatever but don't label me with being a Christian.

 

I also think you need to give up trying to get the general public on this blog sight to have any understanding of the Muslim faith. At this point and maybe forever the wounds are too deep, our men continue to die for nothing. Innocent people by the thousands lost their lives in 9-11. You will not convince us its all OK. Maybe I shouldn't try and speak for other people but I think that the way people post is a pretty good guide to how they feel. I am certainly not saying everyone on here feels that way but those of us that are vocal about how feelings of rage, will continue to feel that way until there is some REAL success in putting down this threat. I do honestly believe until the Islamic Terrorists are handed their hat, they will continue to be a problem. AND of course the perfectly acceptable Muslim familys who secretly think what was done was great, they will have to be put back in their place as well, most likely outside the US and the UK. I don't think our two peoples can co-exist. We have failed to do so, so far, 9-11 made that imposible.

You seem like a nice person, not explosive but we will never co-exist in the real world.

[Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell]

You're an absolute cock, and your post proves that point entirlely.

...builder... I do admire you for one thing. You have the ability to post the most absurd and stupid statements, totally unfounded and baseless oppinions, stated as facts. Yet, all of these women here on GF think you're intelligent, cute and witty... This ability is uncanny, and frankly... I'm envoius!

[Hamza123]

I am not a Christian. I am not religious. Please think whatever you want of me, I'm a bitch, racist whatever but don't label me with being a Christian.

 

I also think you need to give up trying to get the general public on this blog sight to have any understanding of the Muslim faith. At this point and maybe forever the wounds are too deep, our men continue to die for nothing. Innocent people by the thousands lost their lives in 9-11. You will not convince us its all OK. Maybe I shouldn't try and speak for other people but I think that the way people post is a pretty good guide to how they feel. I am certainly not saying everyone on here feels that way but those of us that are vocal about how feelings of rage, will continue to feel that way until there is some REAL success in putting down this threat. I do honestly believe until the Islamic Terrorists are handed their hat, they will continue to be a problem. AND of course the perfectly acceptable Muslim familys who secretly think what was done was great, they will have to be put back in their place as well, most likely outside the US and the UK. I don't think our two peoples can co-exist. We have failed to do so, so far, 9-11 made that imposible.

You seem like a nice person, not explosive but we will never co-exist in the real world.

 

I understand. Point fired, point fired-back. It's an on going cycle going no where, perhaps we should let the future answer all the questions, within due time, the truth will be revealed and hopefuly it will satisfy everyone, except the terrorists. Most of my friends are either Christian or have no religion, yet they respect me soley as a person and thats what I ask of people... Yet they decide to do otherwise if they find out you're a Muslim... And for what? I'm not going to eat you.

[Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell]

An unbiased examination of Prophet's life and his marriages to his wives blatantly rejects the notion of his lifestyle fitting that of a paedophile. All his brides were aged widows. The Qu'ran strongly subjects away INCORRECT and man made (partiuclarily western) Hadiths that tell lies about Aisha and Abu Bakr, and Muhammed (PBUH)

So Aysha was an aged widow... NOT, you are still a liar! I am not surprised by this since Mohammed(may piss be upon him) worshipped the father of liars (satan)

 

 

You're christian right? Your words and attacks defy Christianity...

1) Yes, I am a Christian.

2) My words defy ISLAM you illiterate twit!

 

 

 

Pfffft... You contradict yourself?

More lies from the follower of pedophile lying prophet(may piss be upon him) Where did ever say that I hate muslims? ... I'll tell you, you numb-skull --- NO WHERE!

 

 

 

I don't attack anyone at all... I have put up a defense for my religion and I get... Well let this be a debate... I hope this won't change any out of this topic relations.

You still believe in lies, and don't seem to mind lying to us (unless you actually are stupid enough to believe that your pig-shit religion is peaceful).

 

 

 

Lethal, with or without these people to this day right now, I would still be a Muslim, but If I was raised in a Christian or Jewish family than of course, I would be in either religion. Islam wasn't forced on me. I could convert for all I care. Our family is Lebanese and it's pretty big. My Uncle is a christian yet the family loves him and he loves us just as if he were a Muslim. Once again, I am not critisizing any of you, only trying to clear mis-conceptions...Yet I am being attacked... Just goes to show you who is wrong.

WRONG AGAIN! butt-head. You are being attacked for your LIES... get it through your thick and islam soaked brain... I am not attacking YOU, only your LIES!

 

1) Lie#1 Islam is peaceful.. this lie just flies in the face of logic.

2) Lie#2 I contradict myself because I say I don't hate muslims... You don't even know me, you half-wit. Find one post (taken in context) where I say I hate muslims...

3) Lie#3 Aesha was an aged widow when Mohammed(may piss be upon him) molested her... (wasn't she 6) Even your retarded mentor AIG, knew that one!

 

Stop your fake martyrdom crap... it'll fool that moron builder, but it won't fool anyone with any sense!

 

If you would like to find out about the Prophet Muhammed's great history please visit. http://www.islamonline.net/English/In_Depth/mohamed/1424/index.shtml

 

Now after you poisoned your mind with that one, you can get the anecdote at this site: Try this one:

http://www.lamblion.com/New08.php

[cybacaT]

Hameater

 

All his brides were aged widows.

 

Please provide more detail here...because every reference I've ever read, including Islamic or Islamic apologist websites state that Aisha/Ayesha was 6 years old when Mohammed married her...and only 9 when he had sex with her for the first time (he was 54 at that time).

 

So if a 54 year old man having sex with a 9 year old girl isn't paedophilia, then you must have a different definition to mine...

 

Sahih Muslim Book 008, Number 3310:

'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old.

 

Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64

Narrated 'Aisha:

that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).

 

Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 65

Narrated 'Aisha:

that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that 'Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death)." what you know of the Quran (by heart)'

 

Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 88

Narrated 'Ursa:

The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with 'Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).

 

 

Islam wasn't forced on me.

Was it a free will choice? At what age did you make that choice?

 

 

I could convert for all I care.

Only if the muslims you live with ignore the Quran's commandment to kill those who leave Islam.

 

 

 

Our family is Lebanese and it's pretty big. My Uncle is a christian yet the family loves him and he loves us just as if he were a Muslim.

That's common amongst many religions - Jews, Christians, Muslims alike. It happens because people nominate themselves as a religion but don't actually follow it's teachings or believe it's teachings, so they don't really care what religion anyone else is. I call them cultural followers - they claim to be a certain religion because their family was, and the customs related to that religion are adopted as standard practice in the family.

 

 

 

Once again, I am not critisizing any of you, only trying to clear mis-conceptions...

 

It's good to have you here to clear up any misconceptions - just so long as you are prepared to have some of your misconceptions about Islam corrected also...

[builder]

cybacaT wrote:

That's common amongst many religions - Jews, Christians, Muslims alike. It happens because people nominate themselves as a religion but don't actually follow it's teachings or believe it's teachings, so they don't really care what religion anyone else is. I call them cultural followers - they claim to be a certain religion because their family was, and the customs related to that religion are adopted as standard practice in the family.

 

Seventh Day Adventists tear families apart over their beliefs or non-beliefs.

 

They are Christians too? Yes?

[cybacaT]

Seventh Day Adventists tear families apart over their beliefs or non-beliefs.

 

Sorry builder - not sure what your point is...

 

What I'm saying is that when people are only nominally following their religion - be it christian, 7th day adventist, muslim, jew, etc - of course it makes it easier to tolerate people who leave the faith.

 

So...it's not surprising that a nominal muslim like Hameater has a christian uncle who's accepted in the family.

[builder]

Sorry builder - not sure what your point is...

 

What I'm saying is that when people are only nominally following their religion - be it christian, 7th day adventist, muslim, jew, etc - of course it makes it easier to tolerate people who leave the faith.

 

So...it's not surprising that a nominal muslim like Hameater has a christian uncle who's accepted in the family.

 

I understood your point. My point is that a christian org such as the one I mentioned actively ex-communicates any member of any family who goes "astray".

 

Is that a christian thing to do? Splitting a family over religious differences is for the dark ages.

[ALLAH IS GREAT]

Hamza,I really like your efforts and admire your patience.But don't be suprised if you're attacked.People attack that which is better and different from them.

[ALLAH IS GREAT]

Snafu from Islam ask your question:You can pick out the verses that you want but if you

[builder]

...builder... I do admire you for one thing. You have the ability to post the most absurd and stupid statements, totally unfounded and baseless oppinions, stated as facts. Yet, all of these women here on GF think you're intelligent, cute and witty... This ability is uncanny, and frankly... I'm envoius!

 

Wehn you realize that I have the POWAH, I can give you some pionters.

[Outlaw2747]

Hamza,I really like your efforts and admire your patience.But don't be suprised if you're attacked.People attack that which is better and different from them.

 

I admire Hamza's courage and all but AIG, I hope you don't consider Islam to be "better" than everyone else's beliefs. Different maybe but better wouldn't be a good choice of words sweetheart.

[ALLAH IS GREAT]

I admire Hamza's courage and all but AIG, I hope you don't consider Islam to be "better" than everyone else's beliefs. Different maybe but better wouldn't be a good choice of words sweetheart.

 

I'm just telling you what I think.Everyone thinks their faith is better than other faiths,is that not so?

Why do people follow one faith(Islam,christianity....)? Cos they believe it's better than all the other faiths and better for them.

I'm not rediculing other faiths.

[Outlaw2747]

I'm just telling you what I think. Everyone thinks their faith is better than other faiths,is that not so?

Why do people follow one faith (Islam,christianity....)? Cos they believe it's better than all the other faiths and better for them.

I'm not ridiculing other faiths.

 

Hmmm makes sense. Nice approach.

[Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell]

I'm just telling you what I think.Everyone thinks their faith is better than other faiths,is that not so?

Why do people follow one faith(Islam,christianity....)? Cos they believe it's better than all the other faiths and better for them.

I'm not rediculing other faiths.

It all depends on your frame of reference.

 

1) If you think killing death and carnage is good and holy, then islam is better.

2) If you think that loving your neighbor as yourself is good and holy, then Christianity is for you.

[ALLAH IS GREAT]

It all depends on your frame of reference.

 

1) If you think killing death and carnage is good and holy, then islam is better.

2) If you think that loving your neighbor as yourself is good and holy, then Christianity is for you.

 

Loving your neighbour.The ultimate excuse.Why should I be a christian? Because it tells you to love your neighbour.

Please explain those verses from your bible.