Government Morons Piss Me Off...

[fullauto]

I'll be right in to help out MRIH... I still just reeling from the thaought that CES, a man I have great respect for, could hold such a foolish position...

 

I'm hoping he comes to his senses before I pop in....

[Komrade Vostok Hazard]

This crap sounds like something out of some rivethead's wet dream.

 

manmade drones that think for themselves? How in the hell is this even scientifically possible?

[Anna Perenna]

No, instead, the current collection of warmongering assholes, led by the man who ducked any wartime service, are seeking to develop WEAPONS OF DESTRUCTION...KILLING MACHINES. Fucking Great...

 

Oh this makes me so furious!

 

How dare you criticise The Chief?

 

You TERRORIST!

 

God bless Warmerica.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

I'll be right in to help out MRIH... I still just reeling from the thaought that CES, a man I have great respect for, could hold such a foolish position...

 

I'm hoping he comes to his senses before I pop in....

 

 

And just what is this "foolish position" you claim that I have?

[fullauto]

I think it's foolish to think that every technology has only 1 outcome and that it is bad...

 

Just because the military invented the TCP protocal doesn't mean that the internet is evil!

 

Yes, technology such as the nuclear fission, and knowlege such as Eugenics has been used to do some pretty bad things... But There has also been some realy good to both of those...

 

Nuclear technology will hopefully lead to cold fusion, and has been ground breaking in the medical field...

 

Eugenics has paved the way for advances with some genetic diseases, and helps up regulate a good breeding population in some endangered species...

 

To say that ANY technology has only evil implications is a bit short sighted....

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

You missed the point by a mile.

 

I do not say that technology is bad. In fact, I think it is a good thing for the most part.

 

What I THINK is bad, is seeking out the creation of WEAPONS which are capable of functioning on a battlefield without human intervention or operation. i.e. killing machines and/or robotic warriors.

 

To construct such a thing, invites eventual disaster because to properly work, it would require a self-learning and thinking computer, on par with neural networks and/or quantum computing modalities; technologies currently being developed today at Wichita State University and other places in the world.

 

The concept of a "Mr. Data" from Start Trek, or more likely, a "Terminator" killing robot, is not that far fetched and I believe only a matter of time.

 

Did you watch the video clips I posted? What did they say to you or cause you to think?

 

Some, will argue that we will never have that technological ability, but I like to remind myself of the once empirically stated position that the Pentium processing platform would never exceed 1 gigahertz (GHz)...well, the little box here under my desk is humming away at a mere 2.4 GHz and all for about $500 new.

 

Chip technology is progressing at unheard of rates simply because the manufacturing technology is getting better all of the time. I predict that before too long, we will have desktop chips operating in the terahertz (THz) range.

 

Concurrently, as chip speed increases, the complexity of software also increases, and the net result is pure computational power, the fundamental building block of these types of machines.

 

Lastly, you are totally incorrect in your statement that "the military invented the TCP protocol". Nothing could be further from the truth.

 

IP and TCP were created at universities around the world, via a collection of scientists, but culminated under the direction of Vinton Cerf and Robert Kahn.

 

In 1972, Vinton (Vint) Cerf was a DARPA scientist at Stanford University when he was appointed chairman of the newly created International Network Working Group (INWG), inspired by the earlier Network Working Group, and with a charter to establish common technical standards to enable any computer to connect to the ARPANET.

 

(DARPA is NOT a military organization; DARPA was designed to be an anathema to the conventional military and R&D structure and, in fact, to be a deliberate counterpoint to traditional thinking and approaches.)

 

So, specifically, in May, 1974, the Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineers (IEEE) published a paper titled "A Protocol for Packet Network Interconnection." The authors, Vinton Cerf and Robert Kahn were the pioneers who advanced this technology and began their refinement of this technology.

 

In his own words, Vinton Cerf stated:

 

"The very earliest work on the TCP protocols was done at three

places. The initial design work was done in my lab at Stanford.

The first draft came out in the fall of 1973 for review by INWG

at a meeting at University of Sussex (September 1973). A paper by

Bob Kahn and me appeared in May 1974 in IEEE Transactions on

Communications and the first specification of the TCP protocol

was published as an Internet Experiment Note in December 1974.

We began doing concurrent implementations at Stanford, BBN, and

University College London. So effort at developing the Internet

protocols was international from the beginning. In July 1975,

the ARPANET was transferred by DARPA to the Defense

Communications Agency (now the Defense Information Systems

Agency) as an operational network.

 

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