Religion

[ImWithStupid]

Ahhhh... you're a film fan too - how observant of you! 10/10 and 12 gold stars!!! I never 'claimed' to be original - I'm only one of millions of people in this world. When a quote is worth using, it's worth using well... it doesn't matter where it comes from... only that it has the desired effect!

 

American History X is actually one of my favorite movies of all time.

 

In my case - yeah, I used this quote on the particular morning this happened, because it was the first thing that entered my head! What is language worth, if it's not to be used??? People use quotes and phrases practically every day of their fucking lives, but I guess by your standards EVERYONE must be 'unoriginal' and guilty as charged?!?!

 

I have nothing against using a good quote when it applies well. The fact that your reaction, in the story, seemed a little extreme a bit much combined with the fact that I recognized the quote, caused me to have some doubt to the validity of your story.

 

I apologise profusely at not being able to astound you with an eloquent well-turned Oscar Wilde witticism in this situation... Of course, when some idiots come ringing at your doorbell at 7:30am, trying to sell you indoctrination (after you've only had roughly 4 hours sleep), I'd be REALLY fucking impressed if YOU could 'be original' at a moments notice on just waking up!

 

No apology needed. I was just giving you a couple of jabs.

 

I don't feel intimidated or fearful of these idiots in the slightest - they only 'piss me off!'. Am I wrong in thinking this forum is somewhere for everyone with a PC to rant their distate at a multitude of things?

 

You are totally right about this being forum to rant, hence the name. I was just trying to get a feel for your personality. So, by all means vent your frustrations and discontent.

 

I understand you may or may not agree with my opinions, but if you really think my opinions are boring and uninspirational, feel free to totally ignore my posts and find some other threads where you may feel more intellectually at home...

 

Now that's what I like to hear. I called you out, you stuck to your guns, you didn't get too upset and resort to juvenile name calling or anything and I think you even figured out what I was doing. Good show.

 

I'll give you 5 yards back but I'm still charging you with the loss of a down because chasin' the "church ladies" with your junk out is just wrong man.

 

See ya around the site.

[RoyalOrleans]

I understand you may or may not agree with my opinions, but if you really think my opinions are boring and uninspirational, feel free to totally ignore my posts and find some other threads where you may feel more intellectually at home...

 

Your opinions are ill-conceived and one-sided. You sound worse than the lead gossiper in a sewing circle. A little, whiney puppy is what you sound like.

 

Your opinion of religion probably stems from a bad break up with a mouth-breathing Jesus freak that would not give it up to you. It could also stem from your father who may be an evangalist of some sort. It could come from your mother who made you wear a bowtie every Sunday. Yeah... it could be a whole host of things.

 

My question to you, Tyler Durden, is; are you going to bark all day, little doggy, or are you going to bite?

[ImWithStupid]

My question to you, Tyler Durden, is; are you going to bark all day, little doggy, or are you going to bite?

 

Nice,

 

Now Tyler, here is an example of a movie quote used well. Very good choice also RO. Mr. Blonde is the definition of the term "Stud" in that movie. Of course that's just me voicing my opinion again and don't forget you have the same right to ignore my posts, that you so graciously gave to me.

 

 

I understand you may or may not agree with my opinions, but if you really think my opinions are boring and uninspirational, feel free to totally ignore my posts and find some other threads where you may feel more intellectually at home...

[Tyler Durden]

My question to you, Tyler Durden, is; are you going to bark all day, little doggy, or are you going to bite?

 

You mean, am I going to actually kill someone over my beliefs??? Like a fucking extremist? I think not! The only way that would happen is if one of these clowns actually approached me with intent of malice... in which case - it's eye for an eye. This isn't a point of view just extended to religious freaks - it applies to 'anyone' who approaches me with intent of physical violence for any reason.

 

Is it wrong to protect yourself in such a situation? Christianity would have you believe so with their, 'turn the other cheek' policy. Why should I lie down like a dog to be beaten by a stick when someone wishes me harm? It reeks of retardity not to fight for self-preservation under any circumstances when you're physically capable?

 

Of course my opinions are one-sided... the thing is though, in this debate what is the alternative? There's a choice of either dealing with REALITY or FICTION? I choose reality every time! Fantasy is maybe alright to play with once in a while for amusement, but when it comes to consuming your soul to the distraction of all else... that is a concept I can't and won't adhere to.

 

I understand that taking my knob out and chasing a couple of religious freaks from my door with it, maybe comes across as being a tad too extreme for some people to deal with. Although, this is only a day at the beach compared to what a 'less restrained' anti-religious zealot would be capable of inflicting! I personally get fucking sick of these god-botherers banging on my fucking door at ungodly hours, and standing around on street corners bleating about their long dead zygote and their singular opinions taken from only ONE book. The world as a whole has a lot more to offer someone with an open mind... and I accept it gratefully.

 

Yeah, I DO have a problem with ALL religion - I admit it... but it's a personal choice that I don't expect everyone to follow or agree with...

 

feel free to convince me otherwise... I welcome it - because after all, who's to say I'M right???

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Tyler Durden said:

I understand that taking my knob out and chasing a couple of religious freaks from my door with it, maybe comes across as being a tad too extreme for some people to deal with.

 

No, not at all; that was the funny bit. The Mormons did that shit in Australia for a coupla years. They've "black-booked" 90 % of our country. We stole their pushbikes, inked their white shirts, welcomed them in for coffee, and held them captive, while we danced naked, consuming alcohol and drugs.

 

They just didn't get our form of hospitality. We dropped the middle M and called them Morons. It fits well.

[ImWithStupid]

Yeah, I DO have a problem with ALL religion - I admit it... but it's a personal choice that I don't expect everyone to follow or agree with...

 

I'd still like to hear how an athiest came to the decision to get a tattoo depicting religious symbols. Regardless of the content, just having them there seems a little hipocritical to your beliefs, or lack there of anyway.

[Tyler Durden]

I'd still like to hear how an athiest came to the decision to get a tattoo depicting religious symbols. Regardless of the content, just having them there seems a little hipocritical to your beliefs, or lack there of anyway.

 

To cut a long story short, in my infancy I was raised with a biased opinion since birth. In hindsight... one of my parents believed in lies and the other the truth. Unfortunately, the one believing in lies chose a school for me to attend that took great liberties to expand further on these lies and embellish them on my school friends and I frequently. Not by forceful, sadistic or dictatorship means... more subliminal. Being a child you really have no control over this... your parents decision is final, etc.

 

Even at an early age, I found to my distaste that the lies I was being fed didn't quite add up to the truth. The 'BFG or Invisible Man' (absent landlord) who was promised would 'always be there', simply - wasn't there. This was not a cry for help or a personal trauma I went through or anything... merely a simple self-realization that there was no truth in what these adults were trying to indoctrinate me with. Confusion soon set in and so began the questions. 'Why should I believe in this?' - the only answer I ever got amounted to, '... Just... (stutter) Because... (cue the red face & sharp breathing of trying to find a way of explaining something you cant possibly do) Everyone else believes in it and...(stutter, mumble... stutter) JUST YOU BELIEVE IN IT TOO!'

 

As I aged in years, the more I questioned, the more truth I found & the more bitter the lies that I was indoctrinated with since birth, became.

 

Would I be incorrect on thinking that NO ONE likes or deserves to be lied to? You can only imagine my rage at discovering the hypocrisy of these lies fed to me since birth...

 

Throughout my life, the lies and fantasy I was fed were quickly abolished from my mind. I replaced them with truth & reality.

 

However, I ended up getting this tattoo as a reminder of how weak I once was (and could be again... I am human & far from perfect after all) in believing in fantasy that was fed to me by people who really should know better. The demon raping the angel is symbolic of my personal achievement in finally taking control over my 'own' dogma free life & not let it be governed by that which isn't attainable in the physical world I experience.

 

The image itself may be extreme to a lot of people however, to explain. I do NOT condone physical rape of a woman or a man. It just so happened that in this particular myth, demons are depicted in masculine form & angels in feminine form. Demons obviously represent satan & the angels represent god. Most religions claim you are evil if you don't follow their particular franchise. The whole concept of the art, is the domination over that which you oppose. I oppose religion and all it's doctrines... I also like tattoo's & body art... so why not get it done? This after all is my body I walk around in, and I have the right to mutilate it in any way I wish.

 

Perhaps, if I was raised to find my own way in life based on my own experiences, I may have 'found the light' as it were? Who knows? One thing though... I don't blame my parents for any of this! Parents always do what they think is in your best interests... although in this case... I chose to rebel for my own sanity...

[Curt Sibling]

Your opinions are ill-conceived and one-sided. You sound worse than the lead gossiper in a sewing circle. A little, whiney puppy is what you sound like.

 

Your opinion of religion probably stems from a bad break up with a mouth-breathing Jesus freak that would not give it up to you. It could also stem from your father who may be an evangalist of some sort. It could come from your mother who made you wear a bowtie every Sunday. Yeah... it could be a whole host of things.

 

My question to you, Tyler Durden, is; are you going to bark all day, little doggy, or are you going to bite?

 

Strange.

 

Does someone need all these curious reasons you come up with

in order to see through the lies of indoctrination and religions?

 

If you are deciding to throw your lot in with the god-freaks, you

had best come up with something a little more solid than these

mere wisecracks and mindless insults...

 

From what I have seen, Tyler has gave a pretty good account

of what he thinks, without resorting to the kind of denigrations

you have made on a regular basis.

 

I can see who has more justification in this thread, Orleans.

 

And it is not you, dude.

 

Unless you have some earth-shaking argument lined up

to floor us all after the spastic insults, you would be best

keeping the flap shut when you are outclassed by logic.

 

[RoyalOrleans]

Does someone need all these curious reasons you come up with in order to see through the lies of indoctrination and religions?

 

No they don't, Curt. Anyone can see the flaws in religion. I can, you can, Tyler can, a blind man can.

 

I mean, we see what we want to see. I see a lot of anti-religious bunk on these boards and find it all boring. The same ol' same ol'. Nothing new to report other than the name of the threadstarter. It's beating a dead horse, as I've said a hundred times.

 

If you are deciding to throw your lot in with the god-freaks, you had best come up with something a little more solid than these

mere wisecracks and mindless insults...

 

If I were to throw my lot in with the godfreaks, I'd be the first to get smote down. I am not a Jesus-freak, nor do I subscribe to the local religion.

 

The mindless insults come about when there is nothing left to discuss. And there isn't. I mean, you and Tyler can talk about this til your respective little fingers fall off for all I care. My original post to Tyler was to warn him that this topic has been discussed in a hundred different posts.

 

If he were to say, post a thread discussing his contempt toward the Baptists... that would be a little more original and not so much generalized. Like the hundred or so posts made by Mohammed Rots In Hell, he continues to rant about Islam.

 

Anyways, I didn't travel to Iraq and back to trade wits with a witless worm.

 

I can see who has more justification in this thread, Orleans.

 

And what makes you justified in telling me that I don't have any justification? You have your reasons and I'll have mine.

 

Unless you have some earth-shaking argument lined up

to floor us all after the spastic insults.

 

No I don't have an earth shaking argument lined up. Though you fail to see the point I was laboring to make by warning Tyler about the redundancy of his post.

 

you would be best keeping the flap shut when you are outclassed by logic.

 

This is always a fail safe with you assholes that feel a need to defend everyone. Call me an idiot, basically, for fucking with a youngblood on this board. You and your ilk are the bread and butter of the ACLU.

 

Call me a fool, fine... enjoy the Idiot Box. Mods rule.

[ImWithStupid]

This is always a fail safe with you assholes that feel a need to defend everyone. Call me an idiot, basically, for fucking with a youngblood on this board. You and your ilk are the bread and butter of the ACLU.

 

Call me a fool, fine... enjoy the Idiot Box. Mod's rule.

 

Show of hands. Who else saw this commin' down the tracks at Curt?

[Curt Sibling]

No they don't, Curt. Anyone can see the flaws in religion. I can, you can, Tyler can, a blind man can.

 

Off to a good start...

 

I mean, we see what we want to see. I see a lot of anti-religious bunk on these boards and find it all boring. The same ol' same ol'. Nothing new to report other than the name of the threadstarter. It's beating a dead horse, as I've said a hundred times.

 

Then why do you continue to care?

 

Just because you are bored with it, does not mean that you have

declared all future discussion to be null. You might be a mod, but

making this kind of edict is a bit on the soviet side for my tastes.

 

Let people debate, no-one has a machine pistol in your face

forcing you to digest Tyler's opinion! You are not in Iraq any more....

 

(...if indeed you claims of Iraq service below are true.)

 

 

If I were to throw my lot in with the godfreaks, I'd be the first to get smote down. I am not a Jesus-freak, nor do I subscribe to the local religion.

 

It wouldn't make any difference to me if you were Fred Phelps himself.

 

The mindless insults come about when there is nothing left to discuss. And there isn't. I mean, you and Tyler can talk about this til your respective little fingers fall off for all I care. My original post to Tyler was to warn him that this topic has been discussed in a hundred different posts.

 

There is no need for mindless insults period.

These reduce my view of a person's intellect by 1000%.

 

So, you can try to impress me with debate until your brain implodes;

but use insults, and I will write you off as jsut another forum spastic.

 

If he were to say, post a thread discussing his contempt toward the Baptists... that would be a little more original and not so much generalized. Like the hundred or so posts made by Mohammed Rots In Hell, he continues to rant about Islam.

 

Why must we pick out one faith, when they all make the same fallacies?

 

Anyways, I didn't travel to Iraq and back to trade wits with a witless worm.

 

Witless?

 

You haven't a clue.

 

If you were so witty, you wouldn't have to rely on hollywood for 90% of your one-liners.

 

And what makes you justified in telling me that I don't have any justification? You have your reasons and I'll have mine.

 

I am a spectator, watching you and Tyler slug it out.

 

or rather, Tyler being reasonable, and you throwing tantrums.

 

No I don't have an earth shaking argument lined up. Though you fail to see the point I was laboring to make by warning Tyler about the redundancy of his post.

 

So, are we all to convert to a religion that we find illogical and pointless,

just because you have decided any dissent is redundant? Very good.

 

Not related to Josef Stalin, are you?

 

This is always a fail safe with you assholes that feel a need to defend everyone. Call me an idiot, basically, for fucking with a youngblood on this board. You and your ilk are the bread and butter of the ACLU.

 

Now you lose the plot!

 

Haha! You are the one who has come across looking like a 'youngblood',

with your hilarious tantrum and lame arguments that contradict themselves.

 

Then to top it off, you rant some utter oxcrap me subscribing to one of

the American hippy/lefty organisations! You had me going for a while,

I almost had you noted as a reasonable type, then you blow it.

 

Bloody hell, this site is comedy gold for sure!

 

Call me a fool, fine... enjoy the Idiot Box. Mod's rule.

 

Enjoy being regarded as a scatalogical lunatic.

 

Now drop and give yourself twenty!

[RoyalOrleans]

Show of hands. Who else saw this commin' down the tracks at Curt?

 

Tyler is a big boy, I think, he can defend himself. He's obviously explained his opinions very well and by this, he certainly can retort to me. He doesn't need the help of some limp-wristed fucknut.

[Curt Sibling]

And by the way, you can change my tag to 'I am an idiot' all you wish.

 

But if that is all you can do to make me look bad on the forum, then I have defeated you.

 

Obviously, you lack the courage and maturity to gain ground over me in a debate;

so you are reduced to using your cheap little mod-powers to take vengeance...

 

What a big hero!

 

Good stuff, I am laughing at such pathetic tactics.

 

[ImWithStupid]

Tyler is a big boy, I think, he can defend himself. He's obviously explained his opinions very well and by this, he certainly can retort to me. He doesn't need the help of some limp-wristed fucknut.

 

That's why I thought Curt may be headin' to the box. Tyler was doin' fine by himself and Curt seemed to be lookin' for a fight. Your comparison of Curt to the ACLU was spot on and kinda funny too.

[Curt Sibling]

Tyler is a big boy, I think, he can defend himself. He's obviously explained his opinions very well and by this, he certainly can retort to me. He doesn't need the help of some limp-wristed fucknut.

 

Heh!

 

I was making observations, you can call it 'help' all you wish.

 

And more insults...Very professional....!!!

 

For a seasoned mod, you act awfully like a retarded noob.

 

[Curt Sibling]

That's why I thought Curt may be headin' to the box. Tyler was doin' fine by himself and Curt seemed to be lookin' for a fight. Your comparison of Curt to the ACLU was spot on and kinda funny too.

 

Your ACLU comparison is utterly silly, as I am neither a lefty or American.

 

But don't let the facts get in the way of you having a good mod-bottom-feeding session.

 

[RoyalOrleans]

And by the way, you can change my tag to 'I am an idiot' all you wish.

 

But if that is all you can do to make me look bad on the forum, then I have defeated you.

 

Obviously, you lack the courage and maturity to gain ground over me in a debate;

so you are reduced to using your cheap little mod-powers to take vengeance...

 

What a big hero!

 

Good stuff, I am laughing at such pathetic tactics.

 

 

Ok... shall we debate? I mean, if you want to dance... I'll dance. Enough of this fucking around.

 

You lack the courtesy of allowing Tyler defend himself and in no way was I attacking him. I was clearly being an asshole, but he can fend for himself. Stop being a "big brother".

[RoyalOrleans]

Heh!

 

I was making observations, you can call it 'help' all you wish.

 

And more insults...Very professional....!!!

 

For a seasoned mod, you act awfully like a retarded noob.

 

 

This ain't a business, Curt. Formalities are thrown to the wind.

 

And you shouldn't make fun of the less-fortunate, I mean, we all can't be wise and above it all like you.

[Tyler Durden]

I mean, we see what we want to see. I see a lot of anti-religious bunk on these boards and find it all boring. The same ol' same ol'. Nothing new to report other than the name of the threadstarter. It's beating a dead horse, as I've said a hundred times.

 

The mindless insults come about when there is nothing left to discuss.

 

This is always a fail safe with you assholes that feel a need to defend everyone. Call me an idiot, basically, for fucking with a youngblood on this board.

 

Dude, are you truly a moderator on this board? Sorry, I didn't realize...

 

If you don't mind me saying... I think you may have lost your passion for moderating this particular board? Perhaps it may be you just need to let off some steam on your own thread for a change instead of continually catering to all of us? Moderators are people too, and it's only right that you have the opportunity to go postal as well... we don't blame you for it - it's got to be mental torture having to deal with us idiots constantly moaning on about the 'same old shit', day in day out, week after week, etc... how mistaken were WE to think we could discuss things on a forum?!?!

 

I think you ought to start a new thread where you can just solely focus on what pisses you off about everyone & everything on this board, instead of having to randomise your particular hatred for us all & our rants into multiple threads. Just focus it all up into a huge venomous ball on one thread and furnace it out - hopefully you'll feel much better for it! Maybe when the smoke clears, we can all have a quick peek to see if it's safe and we'll maybe get the chance to behold the sheer majesty & might of your conjured wrath! That would be a spectacle to behold - and I tell you something... the tickets would sell like fuck on Ebay!!!

 

If for some reason this doesn't work for you... I'm sorry to be the one to break it to you, but maybe it's time for a new job moderating a different board which is more positive & varied in nature. It could be that all the bile you have to sift through here has left you very depressed? Maybe being in this type of environment is doing you more harm than good? It's worth thinking about...

[Curt Sibling]

Ok... shall we debate? I mean, if you want to dance... I'll dance. Enough of this fucking around.

 

You lack the courtesy of allowing Tyler defend himself and in no way was I attacking him. I was clearly being an asshole, but he can fend for himself. Stop being a "big brother".

 

Can't you read?

 

I never took it upon my self to defend anyone, Orleans.

I just seen you calling the insults and questioned your reasons.

 

Now I know your reasons;

You are a mod and on your little forum you can do what you want.

 

Fine.

 

I will always strike back with the fury of a cobra when given shit, but I

post mostly for the humour...So please get with the program and see that

there is this thing called 'taking the piss' that you seem to be missing.

 

Our exchange went from serious to nonsense pretty rapidly.

 

I can accept you were perhaps in a private debate with Tyler,

and so I can also accept I should not have butted in, if you were

so engrossed and enjoying your veneer of mod-power.

 

Carry on, but please learn about British sarcasm.

 

[Curt Sibling]

This ain't a business, Curt. Formalities are thrown to the wind.

 

Very well.

 

If formalities are nulled, can I accuse you of molesting horses?

 

And you shouldn't make fun of the less-fortunate, I mean, we all can't be wise and above it all like you.

 

Hmmm - I guess you can't.

 

I am always charitable to those of a lesser station than myself, so

I will let you off with your previous wise-ass attempts to be funny.

 

[ImWithStupid]

Dude, are you truly a moderator on this board? Sorry, I didn't realize...

 

If you don't mind me saying... I think you may have lost your passion for moderating this particular board? Perhaps it may be you just need to let off some steam on your own thread for a change instead of continually catering to all of us? Moderators are people too, and it's only right that you have the opportunity to go postal as well... we don't blame you for it - it's got to be mental torture having to deal with us idiots constantly moaning on about the 'same old shit', day in day out, week after week, etc... how mistaken were WE to think we could discuss things on a forum?!?!

 

I think you ought to start a new thread where you can just solely focus on what pisses you off about everyone & everything on this board, instead of having to randomise your particular hatred for us all & our rants into multiple threads. Just focus it all up into a huge venomous ball on one thread and furnace it out - hopefully you'll feel much better for it! Maybe when the smoke clears, we can all have a quick peek to see if it's safe and we'll maybe get the chance to behold the sheer majesty & might of your conjured wrath! That would be a spectacle to behold - and I tell you something... the tickets would sell like fuck on Ebay!!!

 

If for some reason this doesn't work for you... I'm sorry to be the one to break it to you, but maybe it's time for a new job moderating a different board which is more positive & varied in nature. It could be that all the bile you have to sift through here has left you very depressed? Maybe being in this type of environment is doing you more harm than good? It's worth thinking about...

 

 

If you havn't chacked out Phreak's greeting to new members you might want to. It just kind of give a description of the atmosphere at this site.

 

http://Off Topic Forum.com/showthread.php?t=36023

 

There are some very serious threads and some not so serious threads. Like Phreak says, it's more like a community than a forum. It's kinda like a bunch of friends sitting around talkin' shit and joking around one minute and stone cold serious the next.

 

Anyway check it out.

[phreakwars]

If you havn't chacked out Phreak's greeting to new members you might want to. It just kind of give a description of the atmosphere at this site.

 

http://Off Topic Forum.com/showthread.php?t=36023

 

There are some very serious threads and some not so serious threads. Like Phreak says, it's more like a community than a forum. It's kinda like a bunch of friends sitting around talkin' shit and joking around one minute and stone cold serious the next.

 

Anyway check it out.

Yeah, what he said... dumb ass.

 

I'd also like to add THIS link: http://Off Topic Forum.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=69126

.

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[ImWithStupid]

Yeah, what he said... dumb ass.

 

I'd also like to add THIS link: http://Off Topic Forum.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=69126

.

.

 

That one too.

[RoyalOrleans]

Can't you read?

 

I never took it upon my self to defend anyone, Orleans.

I just seen you calling the insults and questioned your reasons.

 

Now I know your reasons;

You are a mod and on your little forum you can do what you want.

 

Fine.

 

I will always strike back with the fury of a cobra when given shit, but I

post mostly for the humour...So please get with the program and see that

there is this thing called 'taking the piss' that you seem to be missing.

 

Our exchange went from serious to nonsense pretty rapidly.

 

I can accept you were perhaps in a private debate with Tyler,

and so I can also accept I should not have butted in, if you were

so engrossed and enjoying your veneer of mod-power.

 

Carry on, but please learn about British sarcasm.

 

 

1. I don't pay the bandwidth.

 

2. I'm not the only Mod here and each of them supply their own tactics. Me? I like to post in a newcomer's thread, in the hopes of seeing his/her opinions waver in my onslaught of innane comments. I'm not bragging, but Tyler stood fast which is all he needs to do. His topic, as redundant as it was, was eloquently put and I commend him.

 

3. Yes. Nonsense is all I can muster, because I'm a Mod on a power kick. I'm such a fucking pathetic human being.

 

4. Whether you post for the humor or the sake of others, you really ruffled my feathers enough to idiot box you. I guess, you failed to see my point and I failed to see yours. I don't regret what I did, you'll be back to regular status in 48 hours.

 

5. And for the record, I was in the USMC during the first invasion of Iraq under Bush the First.

 

6. I get British humor. I mean, I've seen every single Absolutely Fabulous episode and have several Monty Python features on dvd.