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alcohol is the deadliest drug because it IS legal...ya can just go buy it anywhere that has a liquor licence. Legalize POT and see how quickly the deadly effects start showing up...alcohol is one of the reasons pot is illegal...they were obviously looking to avoid another prohibition. Alcohol is a problem yes it sure the hell is...but making pot legal would just make things worse. Yeah pot is a problem now cuz so many are using it illegally and the ones gettin caught are helpin with the over crowding of our jails. I think that anything that alters ones mind is a dangerous thing and should be avoided totally. But cant seem to drill that into the heads of the pot smokin population of the world.

 

I just have one question: Have you ever seen an angry pot-smoker?

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matter of fact I sure's the hell have!!! lived with the jerk 4 years too long...took a blow to the back of the head, as well as a shit load of mental and verbal abuse!!! Maybe Im just pissed at THAT pot smoker...but either way I have a reason to hate the crap...dont mean I hate ALL people who smoke weed.

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matter of fact I sure's the hell have!!! lived with the jerk 4 years too long...took a blow to the back of the head, as well as a shit load of mental and verbal abuse!!! Maybe Im just pissed at THAT pot smoker...but either way I have a reason to hate the crap...dont mean I hate ALL people who smoke weed.
Being the avid pot smoker that I am, I would venture a guess that your X would be much worse of an abuser if he didn't smoke. Just me though, he sounds like a real asshole.

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lilmiztemper....I will not deny that any mood altering substance can be dangerous. I will not deny that it's probably not in peoples best interest to smoke pot. However, the government should not have the right to restrict you from it. We already have laws in place to deal with people who victimize others. We don't need laws to save people from themselves. The laws don't even work, and even if they did, what right does the government have to mandate you as your own victim?

 

Furthermore, I don't know a single person who refrains from smoking pot because it's illegal. I know plenty of people who don't smoke it, but it has nothing to do with the law. All the law does it force it underground, which gives yet another commodity to criminals who trade underground.

 

You can not legislate morality, nor you can you legislate personal health. It simply doesn't work.

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J.S. Mill from On Liberty

 

The object of this Essay is to assert one very simple principle, as entitled to govern absolutely the dealings of society with the individual in the way of compulsion and control, whether the means used be physical force in the form of legal penalties, or the moral coercion of public opinion. That principle is, that the sole end for which mankind are warranted, individually or collectively, in interfering with the liberty of action of any of their number, is self-protection. That the only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilized community, against his will, is to prevent harm to others. His own good, either physical or moral, is not a sufficient warrant. He cannot rightfully be compelled to do or forbear because it will be better for him to do so, because it will make him happier, because, in the opinions of others, to do so would be wise, or even right. These are good reasons for remonstrating with him, or reasoning with him, or persuading him, or entreating him, but not for compelling him, or visiting him with any evil in case he do otherwise. To justify that, the conduct from which it is desired to deter him, must be calculated to produce evil to some one else. The only part of the conduct of any one, for which he is amenable to society, is that which concerns others. In the part which merely concerns himself, his independence is, of right, absolute. Over himself, over his own body and mind, the individual is sovereign.

 

Can't add much to that.

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J.S. Mill from On Liberty

 

Exactly, yet, it's happening anyway with more and more frequency.

 

I'm not a big believer in slippery slope arguments, but in this case it can't be avoided. What's next? Shall we illegalize high cholesterol diets?

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Yep, the attack on individual freedom and private property rights continues. My fine city now wants to ban smoking in bars. Ignoring the fact that the bar owner should make the decision on smoking in his bar.

The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman

 

 

"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison

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it would be a damned shame if someone went into a bar and lit up a cig...would be so harmful to everyones health!!! Hell lets ban drinking alcohol in bars too...since alcohol is one of the leading factors in fatal car accidents and it also causes sororosis (I know it aint spelled right) of the liver. What a bunch of shit!

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I believe I will smoke a joint and go out and find a family of five to crash my car into.

 

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"You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws. That's just insane!" Penn & Teller

 

NEVER FORGOTTEN

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I am currently developing a technique to inject marijuana into my veins. I'm going to get so freaking high. Gonna cook that shit up and freebase it, maybe go on a shop lifting spree and steal womens shoes.
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that "plant" will still inhibit yer abilities. it may not seem like it when yer smokin it, but in reality...pot kills too...and it aint as heard of as alcohol...because fewer people are smoking pot than drinking alcohol. BOTH can fuck up yer ability to respond when behind the wheel of a vehicle...and yes you CAN wipe out a family when under the influence of pot. I have known it to happen...just as you can do the same with cocaine, speed, herion, mushrooms, need I go on...hell you can even kill a family when under the influence of over the counter meds like nyquil and such...or just the stupidity of talking on yer cell phone or eating a burger and fries...or you name it....but the point being...that anything that inhibits yer ability to function correctly can kill!!!

 

We are all a bunch of frigin kamakazees!!!!!!!!

 

DAMMIT where the FUCK did I pull THAT from...sorry...just feelin little pain tonight...and thought I'd take the opportunity to ramble on and on...my mistake

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I am currently developing a technique to inject marijuana into my veins. I'm going to get so freaking high. Gonna cook that shit up and freebase it, maybe go on a shop lifting spree and steal womens shoes.

 

SHOES???? dare I ask what you gonna do with em?????:eek:

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... [marijuana] can fuck up yer ability to respond when behind the wheel of a vehicle...and yes you CAN wipe out a family when under the influence of pot. I have known it to happen...
You can wipe out a family under the influence of your menstruation cycle too! Happens more often than pot!

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You can wipe out a family under the influence of your menstruation cycle too! Happens more often than pot!

 

hmmmmmmmm never heard of that one!!!

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Driving Under Influence of a Phone

By Tom Incantalupo

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The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman

 

 

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I've said this before. Why is it more difficult to drive and talk on a cell phone then it is to drive and talk to the person next to you? Its not, and I think that "study" sounds like bullshit.
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I've said this before. Why is it more difficult to drive and talk on a cell phone then it is to drive and talk to the person next to you? Its not, and I think that "study" sounds like bullshit.

That's because it IS BULLSHIT...

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What the study proves is driving with a .08 BAC ain't that dangerous. It is time to eliminate drunk driving laws and tell the facists at MADD to shove their dead children up their ass.

 

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What the study proves is driving with a .08 BAC ain't that dangerous. It is time to eliminate drunk driving laws and tell the facists at MADD to shove their dead children up their ass.

 

Member of DAMM (Drunks Against Mad Mothers)

 

okay...so you must be one of them drunks who can drive huh? wait til you take out a family of five...oh wait it wont be your fault...the other driver was the one who didnt swerve out of yer way. yer quote was the most inhumane quote I have seen thus far. people who think like you are just dangerous...and then some.

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You are the dangerous one..a danger to human liberty. The only laws should be against reckless driving. It does not matter why you wipe out a family of five..cell phone use...drunk...doing your nails...masturbating...etc. If you can do these things and drive safely government should not interfere.

The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman

 

 

"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison

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You are the dangerous one..a danger to human liberty. The only laws should be against reckless driving. It does not matter why you wipe out a family of five..cell phone use...drunk...doing your nails...masturbating...etc. If you can do these things and drive safely government should not interfere.

 

drunk driving laws were put into place for a reason. When you kill a family of five...then you get what you deserve...a vehicular homicide charge!

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drunk driving laws were put into place for a reason. When you kill a family of five...then you get what you deserve...a vehicular homicide charge!

 

That is what you deserve when you kill someone through negligent driving..a vehicular homicide charge. This should occur regardless if you are drunk or sober. Jim Crow laws were put into place for a reason.

The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman

 

 

"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison

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That is what you deserve when you kill someone through negligent driving..a vehicular homicide charge. This should occur regardless if you are drunk or sober. Jim Crow laws were put into place for a reason.

 

DUI laws are there so that cops can administer sobriety tests to individuals whom they pull over and take them OFF the road before they DO kill someone!!! Now you find a test to find out if someone has been eating a burger or daydreaming or just plain not paying attention and then you can say that DUI laws are not needed but I feel much safer knowing that they are there.

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