What pisses me THE FUCK OFF

[Silver_dragon87]

They'll be all over the place, but let's get warmed up.

 

Oh, let's think now. What pisses me off...let's start right at home. I hate when people here shut down threads or idiot box someone not because they're stupid, but because they don't like what they have to say. It might make my blood boil to hear someone say something I STRONGLY disagree with, I always listen as long as things are presented in a thoughtful manner. I'm aware that sometimes I don't make sense, and it's only because I have so very much to say, with so much feeling behind it.

 

It pisses me off that in my daily life, I am not allowed to speak. Children should be seen and not heard--fuck that. Just because someone is younger than you doesn't mean they can't say something intelligent. Will they always? Of course not. But sometimes, we youngsters are more enlightened than our elders. To children, there are no boundaries, no end to the possibilities. Maybe if we all thought like that, this shit-hole would be a better place.

 

It pisses me off that men run the world, always have, and always will. I'm going to be sexist for a while here, and I do hate to be, but deep down it is how I feel. Just because they took control at the end of a club, or a sword, or a fist, they get to keep power forever, even when it's been shown--proven through AGES of history--that they cannot be trusted in power, in general. Oh yes, it's horrible to say. But you know what? That's what I do. You hate me for it, I don't really like doing it, but I do. On the whole, I have found men to be mercurial and bloodthirsty. Whose bright idea was it to chain bears up and have dogs attack them? Who decided they should create a god and then shape it in their own image? Who is featured in all those religious stories, hm? What morons decided they could just WALTZ onto someone else's land, scribble some shit on a piece of paper, and say we own this place and we own you, so empty my chamber pot? Sure as FUCK wasn't a woman. End of sexism.

 

What else pisses me off? Oh, you'll see.

 

[Jhony5]

Look little homie. Enlighten me as to what you think the world would be like if woman ran the world? Or, for the sake of realistic debate, what would have happened if countries controlled by woman had to deal with Hitler? I find it amusing that you dog men for their wielding of the sword, yet you owe your precious freedom to violent warfare. Peace is derived from violence, its the way of nature.

[Silver_dragon87]

I, in turn, as you to enlighten ME as to how Hitler would have managed to do what he did if he did not HAVE power to begin with? Or what about if he had grown up in a world ruled, in general, by logic and peace? You can't honestly believe, despite how awful sexism might make you feel, that a world governed from the beginning by women could POSSIBLY be as horrible, wasteful, and violent as this one is?

[builder]

I've always had an interest in matriarchal societies. Wikipedia denies they ever existed, despite tomes of literature to the contrary.

 

Native Americans, although shown to be warlike savages, were generally matriarchal and peaceful, as were the Mayans and Aztecs or South America.

 

The history of patriarchy is only 4500 years old, according to those who should know, and have done the research for us.

 

http://www.matriarchy.info/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=4

 

From the beginning of the human race, circa 200.000 BC, there arose only matriarchal societies. They reflect the initial and most natural behavior of women and men. Yes both sexes.

 

They started in Africa and spread over the whole planet. And on their way they left behind wonderful art and symbolic language - in caves, on objects - that tells us their story.

 

The Neolithic people refined their cultures from 10.000 BC in North and South America (east coasts), in Near East, East Asia and Middle East. In these places the later Advanced Cultures independently evolved.

Matriarchies lasted until about 2500 BC when conquerors moved West, East and South East from Inner Asia.

 

 

Those conquering hordes, called Indo-Europeans, had to leave their fertile land that became dry prairies. The climate changed during centuries and when the Indo-Europeans wandered and came to good soil they had to reestablish their daily life and social structures. After some decades of increasing dryness and lack of rain they had to move again and again.

 

This happened for generations and in cases of privation, humans tend to return to a previous state of civilization. The females and children lived together and the males built their own groups, who moved forward to find water and food.

 

At last, those already patriarchal organized men-groups (maybe some with women) bumped into to wealthy matriarchal cultures. (Their own skills of civilization were long lost in the fight of pure survival.)

Matriarchal societies consist of peaceful people. That means: they have no violence at all, no crime, no war and no weapons to defend, nor walls to protect their cities.

 

Some matriarchal cities or tribes could probably integrate the aliens, others became simply subdued. But nobody could withstand the dominating, scrupulous people who came wave after wave.

From then on it went downhill.

 

There are still about 100 living peoples with matriarchal structures on all continents, except Europe.

 

The Spanish were no better than Ghengis Khan in their treatment of the gentle Aztecs. The British were brutal in their propaganda war on the Indians in America.

[Jhony5]

I, in turn, as you to enlighten ME as to how Hitler would have managed to do what he did if he did not HAVE power to begin with? Or what about if he had grown up in a world ruled, in general, by logic and peace? You can't honestly believe, despite how awful sexism might make you feel, that a world governed from the beginning by women could POSSIBLY be as horrible, wasteful, and violent as this one is?

 

 

enlighten ME as to how Hitler would have managed to do what he did if he did not HAVE the power to begin with?

 

You answered a question with a question. How very clever. I asked how a womens leardership would have curbed his efforts for world domination.

 

Or what about if he had grown up in a world ruled by logic and peace?

 

Again, what does this have to do with your sexist statements? Hitler was INSANE.

 

Yes women are different in there approach and it is not sexist of you to say this, it's true. Sadly, to argue whether or not this world would be better under the rule of women is a mute point. Human nature does not work that way and for you to suppose it could is flat out silly. For you to continue to argue otherwise would be to ignore basic fundamental properties of human behavior. The ability to govern is derived from power to assume control of government. Power is derived through force. Force is asserted through strength. There are fundamental physiological differences between men and women. Men are stronger physicaly, right? As well men are often (not always) mentaly stronger then women in times of crisis.

 

Aside from these issues I have a B I G 'ol problem with what I think your trying to say. You seem to be strongly asserting that woman are peacefull and gental creatures living under the violent rule of men. Check the stats on womens prison populations. Check the stats on --violent-- crimes commited by women. The only countries/cultures that woman are strictly non-violent are cultures like Islam, whereas they are held in check by men who are pigs. By men who violate ever scrap of human rights a woman should be granted. Here is where your arguement fails. You're spoiled and at the same time blinded by the freedoms you take for granted. It's not men who have tainted this world with the poison of power and control, it is HUMAN NATURE alone that is responsible for the state oof the world today. Social evolution that has taken us from the darkness of caves to the madness of nuclear anilhilation.

 

Your blaming men for the state of things is ill-concieved. As they say, behind every good man is a good woman. As well it could be said that behind every evil man is an evil woman. Anyone ever heard of Eva Braun?

[eisanbt]

I, in turn, as you to enlighten ME as to how Hitler would have managed to do what he did if he did not HAVE power to begin with? Or what about if he had grown up in a world ruled, in general, by logic and peace? You can't honestly believe, despite how awful sexism might make you feel, that a world governed from the beginning by women could POSSIBLY be as horrible, wasteful, and violent as this one is?

 

 

 

Yep. The simple fact of psychology is that when it comes to the product of a human psyche, we are all just as maliable. Dosn't matter if you're man, woman, black, white, disabled or whatever. Now since we discriminate and treat people in different mannors based on these facts (which is BS) they'll generally carry some common charasitcs, thats just socialization but it dosn't come to anywhere near 100% of any of those groups. (See classism for other examples of this)

 

And just for reference......

 

Margaret Thatcher- War (Conservative war)

 

Joan of Arc- War (Died defending a MONARCHY, while under god induced hallucinations no less)

 

Cleopatra- War (Imperical and full of sex.)

 

It passes through the ages dosn't it? People are people, stop being a sexist shithead. Patriarchy sucks-ass I agree, but only on the same premises that matriarchy is bullshit too. NOBODY IS A SUPERIOR HUMAN BEING.

[Lethalfind]

Look little homie. Enlighten me as to what you think the world would be like if woman ran the world? Or, for the sake of realistic debate, what would have happened if countries controlled by woman had to deal with Hitler? I find it amusing that you dog men for their wielding of the sword, yet you owe your precious freedom to violent warfare. Peace is derived from violence, its the way of nature.

 

Oh please don't group all woman with this person. We are all very different...

[Komrade Vostok Hazard]

You hate men? GLAD TO HEAR IT! Because guess what:

 

I HATE WOMEN WITH A FUCKING PASSION. In fact I hate them so much that I'm starting to feel they should all be treated the way they're treated in the Middle East. Oh wait. The Middle Easterners are WAY too soft on them

 

Find some of my other posts on the subject and you'll see why.

 

 

And why are you complaining about the Idiot box? Try other forums out there and then you'll see perfect examples of "asshole mods that should be disemboweled where they stand" Some of them BAN people just because they feel like it.

 

While I do feel that freedom of speech applies to kids as well, THERE IS NO FUCKING WAY THEY'RE ENLIGHTENED IN SHIT! They just think they are, and argue every damn thing they hear. They're just psuedo intellectuals that are into themselves.

[Lethalfind]

You hate men? GLAD TO HEAR IT! Because guess what:

 

I HATE WOMEN WITH A FUCKING PASSION. In fact I hate them so much that I'm starting to feel they should all be treated the way they're treated in the Middle East. Oh wait. The Middle Easterners are WAY too soft on them

 

Find some of my other posts on the subject and you'll see why.

 

Komrade, you have been with the wrong women. If you had the right woman in your bed, you would be singing a completely different tune.

 

You would walk about town with a smile on your face and a bounce in your step.

[TheJenn88]

To whomever closed this thread, can you please give an explanation? Is it becuase you do not like Shauna? Or do you have another reason. I'm curious to know.

[Lethalfind]

Being a woman, I would like to say that the world would spin out of control if only woman were in charge. Oh my god the wailing and nashing of teeth when everyone got their period. AND of course since woman were in charge, we would all get our period at the same time, (just in case all the man didn't know, womens cycles can synchronize when we are together alot). OF COURSE when someones husband or boyfriend was cheating, everything would go to shit. No one would think to tell the son of a bitch to take a leap and get on with life.

Everytime I have worked in an office dominated by woman, it was out of control with the crying and arguing, completely unprofessional bahavior. Things that would have never gone on had their been men in their to even things out.

[builder]

I gotta agree with you Lethalfind. I was the only male in a female-dominated office for three years. The backstabbing got way out of hand at times.

 

I had to play sounding board and shoulder-to-cry-on many a time.

 

[angie]

I gotta agree with you Lethalfind. I was the only male in a female-dominated office for three years. The backstabbing got way out of hand at times.

 

I had to play sounding board and shoulder-to-cry-on many a time.

 

The BEST job I ever had was working for an auto parts company. I was one of two women who worked in the store. NO DRAMA. NO GOSSIP. We did our jobs and went home. I work in a daycare and the drama is RIDICULOUS! You need men to balance out the estrogen.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

To whomever closed this thread, can you please give an explanation? Is it becuase you do not like Shauna? Or do you have another reason. I'm curious to know.

 

RO did. He said so at the end of the thread. Did you READ to the end of the thread? No.... Bad Monkey, Bad Monkey!

 

It also said to move it to the debate room. I did this for you, and re-opened it. Enjoy.

 

http://Off Topic Forum.com/showthread.php?t=67614

[Silver_dragon87]

You people are nuts if you think you can balance millions of violent crimes every year and thousands of years of bloodthirsty rule with a handful of names. There are always exceptions--there are horrible women, there are wonderful men. I'm just saying that in a leadership role, women are far more likely to keep calm and rule with things like justice and peace in mind, not "I don't like your face." I'm saying that this ridiculous opression has to come to and end and soon. I mean fuck, we're already doomed anyway, thanks to the rule of men. And no, it's not entirely their fault, if for no other reason than that most male leaders probably believed they were in the right, and wouldn't have even considered the benefits of a little female touch, so how could they know their actions would bring about destruction and chaos, etc? For example, this money shit some asshole decided to come up with. Oh, it's simple and convenient--and pure fucking evil. People kill over money, they destroy innocent, defenseless things over it, they take it from people who deserve it and give it to those who do not. Yes, it's just a tool and a tool can't be evil, but COME ON.

 

Who decided it would be a good idea to make weapons capable of destroying entire fucking city blocks? I'd bet my ass it was a Mr. I'm not saying you could just close your eyes and choose a woman to be your leader and she'd be better, but at the very LEAST, the world should consider these things on equal footing. But fuck no. Who controls the world? The rich, white, Christian man. If you can't see that, you need to open your goddamn eyes. It's ridiculous, it has to stop. That's part of why I'm coming off all 'down with men.' It sounds terrible, but it's because I'm sick of this SHIT. So, unfortunately, many perfectly good guys get thrown in with the rest until they prove that they're not the same. It's a terrible way to look at the world but hey, the world sucks ass. Got a better system? Let's hear it.

 

And also, since it seems to be coming up, I'm not saying we should kick every male leader out and replace them ALL with women, I'm just saying that having things at leats 50 fucking 50 would be a MASSIVE improvement. Me, I'm for...mybe....70/30 until men can learn to calm the fuck down. When I see the levels of murder, abuse, and rape fall, then you can have your power back. Until then, you guys need a FUCKING TIME OUT.

[eisanbt]

Yes it was men who created many of these technologies and innovation and all that other bullshit but to say its because they're male is really short sighted. Back to patriarchy, Its the men who you would find in the positions of power to implement these things. Its the same bullshit argument that women are inferior because they accomplished so little in history: They wern't there to do great things, and they wern't there to do horrible things either!

 

The guys were in charge, its just the way the cookie crumbled. (Probably due to physical superiority) But that dosn't make men inheirently evil or great, they're just fucking humans. Women too are just fucking human and are going to make all the same bullshit mistakes are glorious accomplishments as anyone else, regardless of race, religion, OR SEX!

[Lethalfind]

"women are far more likely to keep calm and rule with things like justice and peace in mind, not "I don't like your face."

 

posted by Silver Dragon

 

Surely she doesn't think she can support this statement??

 

Could it be that she is espousing beliefs that are not her own just to stir up an argument??

 

 

lethalfind<--------------------STILL BORED BY SD

[TheJenn88]

RO did. He said so at the end of the forum. Did you READ to the end of the forum? No.... Bad Monkey, Bad Monkey!

 

It also said to move it to the debate room. I did this for you, and re-opened it. Enjoy.

 

http://Off Topic Forum.com/showthread.php?t=67614

 

Wow, I even made a mental note to read the end of the thread. I guess I missed it by a page. Because I did check..just..the..wrong page

 

-goes to blush in a corner-

[Komrade Vostok Hazard]

The only thing women are fit to do is sit there and manipulate, use people, play headgames with people, act like they're royalty and that the world owes them and be all around bitchy. They don't deserve anything than to be shoved in little holding cages until it's time to reproduce--and then after that they should be generously dropped feet first into a wood chipper.

[Outlaw2747]

Believe it or not KVH, I think there was a movie or a book where women took over the world and the men were kept in captivity and locked up, released for only reproduction purposes. As far as being killed and whatnot, I am not sure about that but I would presume so.

 

After I find some time, my true rant shall come.

[Lethalfind]

Believe it or not KVH, I think there was a movie or a book where women took over the world and the men were kept in captivity and locked up, released for only reproduction purposes. As far as being killed and whatnot, I am not sure about that but I would presume so.

 

After I find some time, my true rant shall come.

 

why release them for reproductive purposes...its more fun when their tied up...lol

[ToriAllen]

Look little homie. Enlighten me as to what you think the world would be like if woman ran the world? Or, for the sake of realistic debate, what would have happened if countries controlled by woman had to deal with Hitler? I find it amusing that you dog men for their wielding of the sword, yet you owe your precious freedom to violent warfare. Peace is derived from violence, its the way of nature.

I think you seriously underestimate the nature of some women...

[Lethalfind]

I think you seriously underestimate the nature of some women...

 

Given his woman troubles I take what Jhony says with a grain of salt.

 

I think men and women working together even out pretty well.

[builder]

There are a lot of women in our local politics. Both the mayor, and the Federal MP are women. Sometimes it works out, and sometimes it is a wasteful fiasco.

 

But that's politics. It rarely runs smoothly.

[eisanbt]

There are a lot of women in our local politics. Both the mayor, and the Federal MP are women. Sometimes it works out, and sometimes it is a wasteful fiasco.

 

But that's politics. It rarely runs smoothly.

 

That is precisely my point. Look at the citys or whatever run by "MEN"; Sometimes they work out and sometimes they don't. I guess there are just some poeple that have it and some that don't. But wait! If this is true for the 'male' run citys as well as the 'females' run citys then..Hmmm, could it be that this general rule of "Some PEOPLE are good at whatever and some arn't" applies to ALL of humanity and isn't sex discriminatory?

 

What a shocker!

 

A person is the product of their experience, this is a fact. It is not limited to men, it is not limited to women. You are the product of your life and it is that which would make one a good leader, a poor leader, a cruel ass or a kind sage. A sage can have overies OR testicles and is just as likly to have either one and that is because there is alot more to people (Well most people ) then their sex organs.